Report: What the UFC Offered Fedor Emelianenko (Dave Meltzer Update)
by Kid Nate on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 PM EDT
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According to the Carmichael Dave Show (as posted by Carmichael Dave on Sherdog) the UFC offered Fedor Emelianenko some extremely generous terms:
- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight
- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.
Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote.
If this is indeed the offer that Zuffa made to Fedor, it is an unprecedentedly generous offer. But if the co-promotion is the sticking point, the deal is DOA.
Commentary from Luke Thomas: Let's be unequivocally clear: this is easily one of if not the most lucrative UFC contract ever extended. The terms are so fantastic that you are not likely to see anything of its kind in terms of its flexibility and willingness to accommodate. When Fedor is gone and the UFC no longer has an albatross around their neck, it will be difficult (albeit not impossible) to envision another scenario where a fighter even can be in a position to make the UFC genuflect like this. Once polarity is entrenched in the UFC's favor, only a crossover star will be able to ask for unreasonable demands. Even then, however, this is beyond that. We've arrived at a special circumstance given the gymnastics the UFC is playing on M-1's behalf.
If anyone from M-1 is reading this, allow me to give you a heads up. The more news of these terms spread, the more the MMA fanbase (hardcore and casual) are going to turn on you in what I can guarantee will be pure viciousness in its backlash. Perhaps that is of little concern to you and your motives, but it is an inevitability.
One can scarcely understand this scenario. Here the UFC is agreeing to not only waive virtually every restriction that would even prevent A-list fighters from joining the roster, but to handsomely pay a relatively minor competitor. Can we imagine a moment where an athlete has their sports organization directly pay an agent or manager or lawyer who helps negotiate any deal? Certainly those handlers charge considerable amounts for their services, but unless I'm mistaken they never actually generate different streams of revenue from the athlete and the organization. This is madness.
The reality is this. We cannot fault M-1 for seeking to aggrandize its riches and use this opportunity to work with the UFC to benefit its efforts. But we also must recognize the stubbornness of M-1's co-promotion stipulation indicates they are attempting to make a statement. The UFC is offering unreal exposure - exposure that literally no one else can provide save perhaps CBS - for the M-1 organization, to say nothing of how much they'll pocket from the PPV buys. Fedor will be allowed to wear as much M-1 signage as he likes. That means this deal accomplishes in meaningful ways the goal of promoting M-1. This deal is helpful to the M-1 brand and company. It's not as helpful as co-promotion, but the inexorable position that it's co-promotion or its nothing is the epitome of cutting off one's nose to spite their face.
UPDATE: From Dave Meltzer via Watch Kalib Run:
The only thing we can say on the subject is that two different sources have told us negotiations between UFC and Fedor have fallen through again.
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by JaTinkles on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we'll be adding commentary and fleshing this out
there are reasons for what we do.
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by Kid Nate on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh posted before i saw the commentary very nice addition.
by JaTinkles on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Who the fuck does this guy think he is?
(Fedor, not you.)
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finki you mean.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe there are still people who think that Fedor doesn’t make the decisions and “Finki” is simply his mouthpiece.
by Evil-Uncle on Jul 30, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reminds me of the KJ Noons/Strikeforce fiasco. Until more info comes out, I’m giving Fedor the benefit of the doubt.
In response to Evil: I cant believe how many people jump to conclusions around here without all the facts.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF? What more could they want?? They got everything but the fucking co-promoting!!! If this is Millen trying to play hardball, he should be… something really really bad.
There's a WAMMA belt in my Cracker Jacks!
by Drewplata on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this week ends with no deal...
which is what it sounds like… I vote that fedor gets a news blackout from this site
by nastyem on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d quit if that became our policy.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(crickets)
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then how would you feed your family?
Oh, wait.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we'll keep reporting the news
no matter who doesn’t like it.
if it happens in mma and its newsworthy and we have time and space to cover it, we’ll cover it.
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by Kid Nate on Jul 29, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way.. what kind of site would do that?
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd still love to come here and see all kinds of news..
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cagepotato has renamed Tito “He Who Must Not Be Named” until he does something.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Will I be flamed for acknowledging that this is a Harry Potter reference.
Ah…who cares.
by MickDawg on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
could also be from the magician series R E Fiest.
the greater god of evil " the nameless one"
by Beren on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Reference to Sauron from Lord of The Rings
by Captain7 on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed pretty good when I saw that piece on CP
by CliChe Guevara on Jul 30, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think its an insult to say Fedor rather fight lesser competition for less money than fight better competition for more money. Cant blame him, probably just wants to be able to retire in a few years with all his brain cells.
by coleko on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If that’s his attitude he doesn’t deserve to be #1.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh!!!!!!!!!!!
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had all his brain cells working, Finky would be history.
by argyle on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amazing.
That’s the greatest deal in the history of the sport. If they do not take it, they are the biggest jack-asses on planet earth.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
This should be rec'd to infinity
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would appear that regardless of taking or not taking the deal, they’re the biggest jackasses on planet earth.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec’d
1 less fedor fan now
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jul 30, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I can say is wow...
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is major league, mainstream sports money. Wow.
by steak_knife on Jul 29, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll believe it’s dead when he signs with another promotion. Until then, it’s all negotiation.
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Excuse me, he’s already signed with a promotion. It’s called M-1 Global? Hello!
Oh, wait…. That’s just him and two dudes. Never mind.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posted an update from Dave Meltzer to the article.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you fucking kidding me? The only (and I mean only) way to make this deal sweeter would be to add Arriany to it.
by willydynamite on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 11 recs
rec’d – funny :)
"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.
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by outlander78 on Jul 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd fight
5 fights if she was the only pay.
by proflex on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hot loads.
True story.
If you see Mark Coleman in person, drop $5 on the floor and watch the fun as he tries in vain to bend down and pick it up.
by Ozzz on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GAME OVER. UFC HAS CALLED FEDOR ON HIS BLUFF.
by coleko on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor break:
Frankie Edgar vs Gray Maynard is on now
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
must have missed this
Huerta’s out? What happened there?
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its on Spike, replay
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dana told m1 to go fuck themselves :)
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone seriously believe Coker will sign Fedor and go to war with the UFC? Anybody?
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope not, that would be the end of Strikeforce.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and go bankrupt like all the rest. nobody can afford fedor but the ufc.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then, does any seriously believe he starts fighting for free in M1? Anybody?
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think there’s a possibility… they’ve co-promoted a lot before and if that’s really Fedor’s sticking point, and not an excuse to not have to fight the best, then it’s very possible.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but is Coker ready to go to fucking war with Dana White? Is he ready to have a biding war with the UFC for all of his fighters? Is he ready to have all of his events counter programmed?
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strikeforce needs to sign on to be UFC’s AAA leauge. Feeder system. Only way they survive
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
I’ve always wondered why Coker and Dana’s relationship has been so “polite.” I’ve wondered if that meant they were trying to keep the door open for an eventual buy-out deal? Maybe this would put Strikeforce into that position. It’d be a huge gamble, for sure. Just trying to think outside the cage. huh huh
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a plan
The UFC should the use the money they offered Fedor and M-1 to get the top heavyweights that could potentially face Fedor – even Barnett, and watch Fedor fade into the collective old school fans dvd-fueled memory… Ive had my harsh words for UFC and their bargaining practices/fighter relations/contract negotiations/etc, but I am fully convinced that the UFC offered a hell of a lot more than they truly wanted, only to please the fans and attempt to make the dream matchup of the two best heavyweights fighting to unify the championship of the world.. and pay Fedor and his little russian mafia and boatload of cash in the process… which was unacceptable terms to the crazy russians mind.
by chucharro on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll fight cans in Japan if all else fails…resistance is futile.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. The UFC should sign every top-30 heavyweight they can. And Fedor can fight freakshows and slip out of the rankings for good.
by drightler on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is fucking ridiculous
watchkalibrun.com
by Zak Woods on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor Vs Canseco for the NY’s show.
Yeah I’m pissed.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Canseco VS Barnett
P.E.D. All Stars Superfight
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
10% manager's fee...Is Finklestein really saying no to 500k paydays? is he high?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NYET!
He just have high standards and not want hees fighter treat like ANIMAL.
LOLOL
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all know that #m1globalsucks so everyone start the twitter movement
Just include #m1globalsucks on your tweets. Go go!
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 10:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
#fuckm1 is more Twitter friendly.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
either would do.. but go help out too.. haha.
there’s a lot of internet mma folks and i bet 99% agree that #m1globalsucks so why not go out and tweet it so everyone would know that m1 sucks. (the 1% includes SuPreMaCy i think)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no two ways about it: this is one of the more significant moments for MMA as a sport. The UFC just pulled up to the big boys table, with other major sports, in regards to how it treats its sport’s top athletes.
If Fedor and his people turn this offer down, there can be no blame assigned to the Fertittas or Dana White. They deserve mountains of praise for going above and beyond with their offer.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
They have gone above and beyond the call of duty to try and make this happen. High 5 for Zuffa.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t agree more.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m surprised this is coming from you, but I’ve been very taken aback by how few people are defending Fedor here.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve been patient for long enough.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-fucking-men.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Ron White would say, you can’t fix stupid.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you be surprised? I’m not some irrational hater of the UFC just because I have disagreed with some of their business practices in the past. Though, I’m sure that qualifies me as such to some around these parts. My main issue with the UFC has always been how they handle contracts and fighter compensation. There’s nothing even remotely close to being unfair with this offer. In fact, the UFC is setting a very generous precedent for how the sports top athletes will be treated.
I’d like to think my complaints have been rational. Never have I stated that I hate the UFC as a whole, because I don’t.. Quite the opposite. As I’ve said many a time, I care about seeing the as much quality MMA as I possibly can. The UFC offers exactly such a thing, on an extremely consistent basis, far more than any other promotion.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And as long as you don’t try to get into a bidding war on a star they want, they pretty much leave things like Strikeforce alone. Who on Earth will pay Fedor HALF of this?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M1 Global...lol
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why, M-1 will
because they are global.
by Riney on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Luke said that Strikeforce has made a pretty strong offer, but that it wasn’t in the ballpark of what the UFC just put on the table.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it would be the same fucking sport as what the UFC offered.
"Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men," who shun sex, don’t spend money, and like taking walks."
Did they all get married?
- Ubernoober
by SamCupitt on Jul 30, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, same difference. But yeah, what you said.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M1 Global reminds me of Prestige Worldwide. I’m pretty sure they’re equally successful operations.
by CliChe Guevara on Jul 30, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone in M-1 have a sweet, sweet singing voice like Brennan? If not, I’d say Prestige Worldwide is above them.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same way. I see no possible way to defend Fedor’s management on this. And unless they are lying to Fedor, I see no way to defend him either.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I’ve heard and read, the Strikeforce deal is non-exclusive and Coker has also agreed to co-promote.
It’s exactly what M-1 Global want, except for one minor thing…
It’s nowhere near 5 million fucking dollars. More in the area of 500-700k per fight. Strikeforce don’t do PPV, so there would also be no PPV revenues for M-1.
If Coker pulls this off, then Dana isn’t going to stop until Zuffa buries them. Another potential MMA promotion at war with the UFC?
Should be interesting…
by timetosaygoodbye on Jul 30, 2009 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just one guy’s opinion, but I’m personally glad that Vadim turned it down. I don’t think that they’re worth it and, personally, I think that the UFC would be grossly overpaying. Fedor has made his decision and I respect it. No reason to bash either party. Bring on the next generation of heavyweight talent. Fedor has been a great champion and at 33 years old with a ton of training camps behind him, it’s only a matter of time before the next guy gets his turn at bat. In business, deals that end up not getting done often turn out to be a blessing. I could easily see this being the case here for the UFC. Best of luck to Finklestein and Emelianenko and their company. You can bet that Zuffa will be just fine without them.
by SlickRick00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is perfectly reasonable...
For a fan to see turning down this offer as actively avoiding talent that can beat Fedor. That is a reason to bash Fedor and his management. Turning down $30 million in the current MMA climate because of co-promotion? It’s ridiculous. Many fans will turn on Fedor after this, and I’m one of them. He’s ducking just about the only fighters that can beat him.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's BS.
If Fedor wanted in, Fedor would be in. Whatever the reason, he’s hiding.
If you see Mark Coleman in person, drop $5 on the floor and watch the fun as he tries in vain to bend down and pick it up.
by Ozzz on Jul 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 30, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think so,
even though we mangle it so badly, haha. It’s supposed to be ‘parkies’ with that eccentric welsh(?) accent, since they, you know, live in parks.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And travellers. And pikey-men.
In Ireland they spit on pikey children.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 30, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate Finkie SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is garbage, this is the best contract any MMA fighter has been ever offered, and Fedor has to think about it. A contract with the worlds biggest MMA promotion, enough money to buy all the ice cream and vodka he wants( because it obviously isn’t spent on training equipment) a immediate title shot, M1 logos, and mother EFFIN PPV cut. The UFC has gone above what any fan can expect of them in their attempt to acquire Fedor, and M1 is thinking that DREAM or Strikeforce would be a good alternative. This blows because I was definitely all about Fedor, but I guess he might just go and fight Overeem and cans then retire to Sambo in bumble fuck Russia.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well if nothing else none of us can say UFC didn’t try. It can’t be about the money if they don’t accept that.
Am I the only person that thinks it would be better if Fedor didn’t get an immediate title shot. I think they should have him fight Couture to introduce him to the non hardcore fans and to those that don’t know who he is.
man this is some interesting stuff!
by TruthSeeker1223 on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
build him up have him fight a legend and huge draw first, No causal fan knows anything about him…….at all
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you bring him straight in and have him fight brock then everyone will be like, who in the hell is this? They built cro cop up like he was a bad ass to all of the non hardcore fans and then he got us butt whooped and looked horrible. Who is to say that the same thing doesn’t happen to Fedor. I don’t think it will but I wouldn’t be surprised. This is tricky. The other side is if Randy bears Fedor then it’s all jacked up. But if Randy beats fedor then Dana can say…. see I told you he wasn’t that good! :)
by TruthSeeker1223 on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure most people know who he is by now.
by goodbones on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure most of those people don’t care either.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are these guys trying to push the envelope to see what kind of offer fedor can extract from the ufc?
i say, the ufc should just drop the negotiations and let fedor fight in strikeforce for
500,000 a fight
co promotion ? f-cking ridiculous
by theblade on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this is really what they offered ...
… fuck Finkelstein.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah if the really turned this down...
It might just be UFC posturing.
by SES 84 on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow if Fedor doesn’t sign I think I’ve lost all respect for him.
They wanna make MMA global? PFFT, then UFC is the place to be! He wants to make cash? Again, UFC! Sambo? Sure why fucking not? UFC! M-1 Logos? Yup, UFC! M-1 Global cut of the PPV? Takes M-1 Globals nuts out of mouth. Yes, U! F! C!
So whats the problem again?
This is pising me off soooo fucking much right now if true! Where the fuck is LOGIC?!!!
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
do what?
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did… check the hashtag
There's a WAMMA belt in my Cracker Jacks!
by Drewplata on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool.. thanks.
keep em coming peoples.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t really fault logic if this falls through.
Who in the hell turns down an offer like that?
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They want to make MMA global but so far they have put every promotion they have worked with out of business…
by mmalogic on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only there were another, more competent company that had the same goal…
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, right? Maybe one that is actively putting on events in multiple countries every year…..
by drightler on Jul 30, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offering record-shattering contracts to fighters while still maintaining profitability…
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only…
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps that’s their endgame? Take out the competition. That’s what it looks like at least… Heh.
by timetosaygoodbye on Jul 30, 2009 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFC obviously leaked this info to their boy he Carmichael Dave so that all of you could freak out like you’re doing now an put pressure on Fedor’s camp. Remember how they reacted to the sherdog poll on the Vitor fight? That was like a firecracker compared to the atom bomb that’s going off now. People walk away from the negotiating table all the time, it doesn’t mean they’re not coming back. When people say it’s not about the money, that only means that it’s about more money.
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m more than willing to be a pawn in this negotiations if it means we see Fedor vs. Brock in the UFC.
by Luke Thomas on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
100 fucking percent. I’m on sherdog acting butt hurt as we speak.
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It appears the way to get Fedor in the UFC is to have Sherdog put up this poll:
Is Fedor actively ducking the UFC’s HW division?
Yes
No
When those numbers come back, the Russians will shit their pants, since they apparently love Sherdog’s polls so much.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the high ground
Population: 1
Home of the UFC
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude most nba nfl and nhl players dont make that kinda money you wont get that kinda money anywhere else in mma.
by JaTinkles on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, that’s why the idea that Fedor to the UFC is dead is absurd.
by Jahbulon on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Self Aware shilling, YES!!!
I agree with you though Luke. I’m willing to chip in some money to put a bounty on Finkie’s head. It’s for the good of the sport!!
by Zack Gobie on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They have to be positively believe Fedor will not make it into those six fights. The icing would need to be they cannot cut him legally if he loses during the remainder of the contract. There is no way they can guarantee him that type of contract. No way!
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A comment I left on another thread, it expresses my feelings rather well. Also, I am 100% with Luke on his assessment.
Yeah, M-1 Global wants a hit and run, with Fedor taking the UFC HW belt, and coming straight to M-1. This is why M-1 wants co-promotion so bad…so the casual person will have even HEARD of them, and know that they have the UFC HW Champ. Thats the deal. That has to be it. UFC went as far as to give them a PPV percentage and it wasn’t enough. Vadim wants to be able to walk away with a money making machine and jumpstart M-1.
Fuck this "UFC isn’t Global" bullshit with M-1. FEDOR’S OWN BROTHER AND TRAINING PARTNER has said Vadim is using Fedor. I think the only thing we don’t know is how bad Fedor has been fucked over his whole career.
If my manager told me to turn down a 5 mil. a fight deal I would tell him to fuck off and sign the mother fucking contract. Period. No bullshit about it. My mom could be my manager and I’d tell her to shoove it if she told me to pass up this kind of deal.
This is a travesty.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The problem with all of this is that it assumes that Fedor is getting fucked over. He may very well be the one sticking on this issue, since he has a stake in M-1 and would profit greatly if they do indeed hit and run. Why do we all assume Fedor is just some dumbass, letting his management screw up his career? Is there a reason to assume this?
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then...
I’m not directing this at you personally :P
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol..It’s all good. They’ve offered to make the guy the highest paid fighter in the sport. If that’s not good enough then I’m sure he’ll be much happier making 1/10th of the money with Strikeforce or Dream. Such is life.
by SlickRick00 on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. And the fan base will respond accordingly. The mystique that has surrounded Fedor will dissipate, and everytime we mention him in the future after he retires it will be with an * about how he turned this down and fought cans until retirement.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Aleks would take into account if Fedor was letting this happen so he can profit as well. You don’t think M-1 gets a cut of his purse anyways? M-1 gets money either way, the big issue is their name being plastered everywhere. How big of a stake does he have in M-1? I doubt he’ll be making more money that way, because no one is going to give a damn about M-1 after they leave…if it’s not “Ultimate Fighting” it won’t sell nearly as well as anything else.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know how else Fedor would greatly profit?
By signing the fucking $30 million contract.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you, was hoping someone would come around and help me out here. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do we all assume Fedor is just some dumbass, letting his management screw up his career?
Because he’s letting his management screw up his career?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It is possible that he is screwing up his own career, that his management is NOT the driving force behind these decisions. That’s my whole argument.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you say that when, before this week, Fedor had never even met Dana White or Lorenzo Fertitta? All Fedor knows is was his management tells him, he has said several times that he trusts them completely when they are obviously screwing him at every turn.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it’s completely outside the realm of possibility that his management is telling Fedor what is actually happening, and Fedor is saying “Without co-promotion we aren’t signing”? I didn’t know you were in those meetings…
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you actually believe that that Vadim Finkelchtein is being completely honest with Fedor while he takes a million dollar per fight fee, Fedor gets $300,000, and the rest goes to M-1 (the deal he had with Affliction) then there’s not much I can do to help you.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not saying that that is what is going on (I’m not in those meetings either), I’m just wondering why we all just assume Fedor is being used by his management, and not on board with the decision.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it’s a common occurence in MMA (see: Ken Pavia)
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clear this up for me, are you saying Fedor wants to suck M-1’s nuts, or are you calling him a coward, because he dosen’t want to fight in the ufc? Because I think both of those are less likely than him getting fucked over by his management.
M-1 sounds like a fucking pyramid scheme and Fedor bought into that shit hardcore.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, first of all, there is no reason to be a dick because you disagree (ufc4, this seems to be a recurring theme of yours). Secondly, I am not saying that Fedor is NOt getting screwed, I[‘m saying that we don’t know for an absolute fact that he is not ok with the decision. He does have a piece of M-1 Global and may just be a shitty businessman who doesn’t understand the current MMA climate. We don’t know. Everyone just acts like it a fact that Fedor is being lied to, that it can’t possibly be Fedor’s fault. And it can.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said Fedor isn’t OK with the decision, quite the opposite I’m sure he is, but that doesn’t change the fact that his management is out and out FUCKING HIM AT EVERY TURN. What else can you say about someone who tells you to turn down a $30 million contract? Finkelchtein is looking out for his interests first, M-1’s second, and Fedor’s a DISTANT third. It IS a fact that Fedor is being lied to, I know that by the comments he has made about different parts of the contract (like the champion’s clause) that are completely wrong. He has obviously never seen the contract himself or he would know exactly what it says, but he doesn’t. Why does he not know what it says? Because HIS MANAGER LIES TO HIM.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he still has not met them – all the articles I have read stated they talked via conference call
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which I think is an idiotic way of doing business, although, depending on the situation, could be genius. So many nonverbal cues can give away information.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what would happen if just Fedor and an unbiased interpreter went into Danas office
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana would introduce him to some decent fucking managers. Imagine if Fedor got with GSP’s management…ha.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There would be a contract signed within ten minutes after Dana’s interpreters explain to Fedor how many ice cream cones $30 million will buy in Stary Oskol.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
howmany ice cream cones$30 million will buyinStary Oskol.
Fixed.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, I wasn’t sure how the meetings have gone down this week, seems kind of silly not to meet face to face if they are in the same town.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Fedor and M-1 aren’t going to get anything better than this. HUGE mistake.
by FredPancake on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
M-1 is looking out for M-1…that is all. Fedor has let himself become a pawn to something destined for failure.
I truly hope Fink does what is in Fedor’s best interests and signs this fucking contract.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I don’t see how this is looking out for M1.
Will a “co-promotion” with UFC be worth more than 5 million a fight? yes.
But, can anyone else offer anything even close to this? No. They have no leverage here. If Dana pulls this offer they’re going to be kicking themselves. The UFC has no reason to co-promote.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We cannot fault M-1 for seeking to aggrandize its riches
Yes we can, when it completely backfires and alienated their biggest (and only) bargaining chip.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kill me.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you know how many PPV you can buy with 30 million dollars?
by cyph on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the UFC have bent over backwards to try and sign fedor and its still not good enough, so fuck it let fedor run off and fight roughly the other 3 fights that actually matter outside the ufc (munson, werdum, and AO) then once he finishes that he will go away and no one will care, from here on out alot of people will see him as the dude who ducked the ufc. I believe that M1 thinks that Fedor is a draw and he really isnt and they believe that there are tons of fights for him outside the ufc, did they wonder why it was so hard to find a replacement for him? all the fighters that people wanna see fight fedor are in the UFC.
well thats my rant im goin onto call of duty WAW and shooting russans might make me feel better
by Riley_96 on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Im bout to turn on COD4...killing makes it all better
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Empire Total War FTW. I have a body count of 300 000.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking love that game. I should probably go and vent my rage on the Indians with the Republic of Spain.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Medieval II is far better. The history of E:TW’s era is cool – the military…not so much…walk in straight line, get killed, repeat.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diplomacy is 1000000x better than in M2TW, grenadiers, lime shot, and SEA BATTLES!!!!!
Prussia is my favorite by far.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austria was a pretty good time. I’m kinda stuck because I’m good friends with everybody left after my rampage through Europe. Spain is much harder.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it’s a fantastic game – I’m just uninterested in the military history of the 1700s. I want a remake of Shogun:TW!
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Download the demo and give it a a swing. The sea battles are worth the price of the game.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did play it (screw you, Steam) – it’s totally an improvement in diplomacy & finally there are real naval battles. It’s just not a historical era that interests me. Trust me, I desperately tried to get into it.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need a new computer.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First a job…which I need too now, damn contract work >_<
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is insane!!! I find it hard to believe that they offered him that much when nobody else can even afford a fifth of that.
by NinjaCodah on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Right now I am blog and Twitter hating M1 global like any good MMA fan should, if they like their polls so much watch what happens when they see this shit storm. Profit is flying out their windows.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did you use the #m1globalsucks tag? go use it.. spread the word! haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.. Make it a trending topic and let everyone know the crap they're pulling..
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should make a fanpost about it, enthuse people to sign up to twitter if they don’t have an account and let it be known.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This calls for a Diego gif!
YES!
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do i do this...new to twitter as of last week
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just tweet #m1globalsucks and your statement.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just add #m1globalsucks to your tweets
more tweets we get with the #m1globalsucks the bigger the chance it gets to be on the trending topics.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 30, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it’s a wednesday night…nothing is going on. We can do this! haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep i think we can. :)
go peoples go!
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
got it, i did that wasnt sure if that was all
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was lost too, but thought looking like a dumbass if I screwed up would be worth the cause. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did it – #m1globalsucks
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like this? ha
AaronNance@danawhiteufc #m1globalsucks
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes..
i’m @antontabuena on twitter, and i’m already flooding them with #m1globalsucks tweets haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
::Enter Mr. Burns::
“Excelent”
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weo x3, you should photoshop a pic of Fedor, make it look like a mugshot, and put “Free Fedor Now!” on it. That would be classic.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you wish:
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know the sad thing? UFC could announce a deal with ABC and I would still feel disappointed about the week, that’s saying something.
by Zack Gobie on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yesterday, I was getting the coolest apartment in town, I was convinced that the gal I was seriously interested in had a mutual notion, and I knew that Fedor was fighting Brock Lesnar in the UFC. By the end of today, the apartment had been sold to somebody else right under my nose, I essentially got told “no thanks”, and then M-1/Fedor pull this shit.
I’m gonna drink until the vodka seeps out of my pores.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Then light it on fire?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 30, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
W’ere gondna ifnd out oson.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So how’s your liver this morning?
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a rough night…
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotten day.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You poor bastard. Hope you at least bought a decent bottle.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it better not be Russian vodka either….
Hello, Japan!
by Mr.Kib on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5mill+sponsorship money+ cut of PPV. How much fucking money does it take to bribe this fucker. For that price you could just buy M-1Global.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
EA confirmed Fedor will be in its MMA game
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/29/ea-confirms-first-three-fighters-on-ea-sports-mma-roster/
If Dana White keeps his word about blacklisting any fighter who signed with EA, then this about sealed the deal that Fedor will not be in the UFC any time soon.
by m-e-s-s-i-a-h on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yawn...did you just wake up? haha
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously I expect Fedor and non UFC figthers (besides Randy) to be gobbled up by EA, but this the first official confirmation I heard of.
by m-e-s-s-i-a-h on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they announce it on the m1 conference call earlier today. That was the ONLY news those fucks announced.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah dude
I think its a little past that……. like 30 million past it Randy is in the game remember
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With regards to Fedor, this is not an issue. Special case.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this is an issue with anyone meaningful
Dana will get over his hurt feelings with EA like he always does. I bet they end up having EA making their game in 3 years time.
by SES 84 on Jul 30, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M-1 are using Fedor, how can any agent or manager claim to be acting in a fighters best interests when turning down such an offer. Their press conferance was little more than M-1 milking the situation for their benifit.
Imagine if Anderson Silva held a press conferance and the theme was just to talk about Anderson’s manager’s career plans. It’s insane!
They are a disgusting organisation and in my opinion are using Fedor to promote their own interests. What a sad, sad, sad day for his career.
by Donk696 on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson is probably wondering where his 30 million is. I bet he’d like a piece of Fedor.
by bigweeze on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everyone. Let fedor be the guy who ducked the UFC and let him fade into obscurity.
by nastyem on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IF, and it's a big IF
this is the deal thats on the table from the UFC and Fedor’s puppeteers turned it down then one conclusion can be made. His management is ducking the biggest show on earth. Are they afraid of what might happen? Probably not, but co-promotion can’t be the sticking issue. Not with the kind of money on the table that’s in the article. What do they think will actually happen. Fedor is going to end up in some small show, making less then a third of whats on the table now. Eventually he’s going to get beat, and it could be by someone that almost no one is heard of and then his #1 title is fucked.
#m1globalsucks, I know it’s not a tweet, but it seems to be trendy.
by proflex on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how everyone else feels about it, but....
The best fighter in the world, whoever he is, will lose to other, lesser fighters SOME of the time. That’s the nature of the sport. Whatever the real percentages are, Fedor will lose to Brock some of the time. Fedor will lose to Randy some of the time. MMA is too volatile for it to be any other way. Fedor against a can and those percentages go way up for Fedor.
The fact of the matter is, whether they actually would or not, the UFC’s talent CAN beat Fedor, and some of them a decent percentage of the time, if not 50%. That is reason for M-1 to be scared of their golden goose fighting in the UFC.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when his entire career has been built on basically being unbeatable.
Once the unbeatable is beaten…. There is little money in promotion.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO one in MMA is unbeatable. The sport is way too volatile.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you missed the point.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t, just reiterating that Fedor has reason to not want to fight in the UFC. I didn’t mean to sound as if I disagreed with AlwaysRelaxing, I didn’t. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
by Jiiri on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s not interested in being the best in the world if he doesn’t come to the UFC now. I’d rather watch guys that want to be the best. Let Fedor buy a monastery and be a monk.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or fight in M-1 Challenge shows for the rest of his life.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well. He’s probably over the hill at this point anyway and his entry into the UFC would only end in some kind of Mir or Cro Copish grinding embarrassment that tarnishes his legacy forever.
by toxic on Jul 29, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they dont accept this deal then screw them, Fedor will ruin his own legacy and M-1 will be acting in their interests rather than his, proving what we all thought we knew all along.
Vadim is self serving & using Fedor.
by DirtyML on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how mmalogic has been MIA all day..
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana probably fired him in a fit of rage after the negotiations fell through… (yeah I know he dosen’t work for UFC…but fuck it.)
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he hasn’t I saw him earlier
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just giving him a hard time. I got nothing against just curiousity to what he says next.
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm concerned...
maybe something “happened” to him.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bitter taste of reality?
I kid, I kid…we’ll see what happens friday.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i think they will announce the Fedor signing Friday. No way they turn down this offer.
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it does turn out they really did turn it down…oh lord, the world is going to implode.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this whole thing is a hoax. They just had to keep their mouth shut today. Let the UFC have the spot light on Friday.
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats all this over the hill talk?
He’s a year older than Brock and Nog, 3 years older then Gonzaga and Mir, and younger then Carwin and way younger then Randy. I think that he is far from past his prime even tho Im pissed as hell with the situation.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People trying to soften the blow, is all.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
argh
This whole situation is aggravating. That’s it, I’m unplugging the internet cable.
by NinjaCodah on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck me sideways!
That is the single greatest offer ever, and possibly ever will be!
Dana is an absolute genius!
If they accept, then perfect, Brock vs. Fedor. If they turn this one down the whole world will be after the crazy russians’ blood!
by MMAussie on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im stealin an idea here but the next fedor fight chant brock. that will give them the hint, or chant ufc either would do
by Riley_96 on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering
Is there a clause that says he cannot be cut over the duration of the contract?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably, or at least something like he can only be cut if he loses 2 fights in a row or something like that.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care anymore.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m raising hell until the dust settles, and by then, either Fedor will be in the UFC, or I forget who Fedor is and add more fuel to my Brock hype train.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody here have had slower internet service these past 24 hours since all this Fedor talk?
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im not even a Fedor fan
..and I’m pretty angry.
by jafotinatos on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seeing people turn down more money than the majority of people make in their lifetime can do that to you.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me be the first to call bs on this report, while i’m sure that the UFC offfered Fedor a big contract those numbers aren’t based on reality. Regardless i’m glad that people are finally getting the picture when it comes to Fedor his myth and reputation are going to take a huge hit from now on. While the UFC will continue to expand and dominate Fedor is on his last legs and whenever he slips up it’s game over he’ll be a laughing stock by missing out on millions because he couldn’t see his manager was robbing him blind.
by Raker on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to know how it is beyond reality. There are fighters making close to that in the UFC if you add undisclosed bonuses. Yeah, the contract is lenient when it comes to what was asked of them, but I highly doubt this is fabricated or blown out of proportion. This was probably the UFC’s best deal ever given.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 29, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I don’t think anyone in the UFC is making close to what was offered here. Brock made about $3 million from UFC 100 which is probably the most any fighter has ever made from a single fight, with his PPV cut Fedor and his cronies will be pulling in over twice that much per fight.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Brock got 400k + ppv cut which came out to 3 mil…Fedor gets 5 mil + ppv.= dizam
by reciprocal on Jul 30, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure if it was $400K plus PPV or if the $3 million included the $400K but either way that’s not close to the $7 million or so Fedor would be banking.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I’ve read Brock gets $400,000 no win bonus + ppv percentage. The best deal in the UFC is Chuck Liddell at $500,000 to show, $500,000 to win + ppv percentage.
This deal makes Chuck’s look weak.
by drightler on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, assuming Chuck gets the same percentage as Brock, Brock’s may be better if he gets $2.50 per PPV and Chuck only gets $1.50
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Chuck is Dana’s best buddy so you know (and Dana has stated) that he has the best deal.
by drightler on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I’m saying, I highly doubt Chuck has ever made as much from one fight as Brock just did.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 million was based on projected buys.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think this deal is out of the realm of possibility at all. I’d like to see proof via Friday’s press conference as well, though.
But when you consider PPV numbers for the average UFC event, it’s not at all out of line, especially considering the fact that Fedor VS Brock would likely be the #1 PPV ever, and Fedor being part of the UFC would go hand-in-hand with the UFC’s desires to expand globally, like, in Japan?
by LeonDaLion on Jul 30, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sources Report that they want a " No standing knee" clause to be included
by reciprocal on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“No standing knee”? What does that mean? No knees from the clinch and the like?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a retarded condition.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all the demands being floated about, anything’s believable.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it awesome how even the hardest of the hardcore fans (us) are turning on Fedor. This co-promotion bs is nonsense. M-1 hasn’t helped any org become bigger. Look at Bodog and Affliction. They’re dead and they co-promoted with M-1. M-1 brings nothing to the table and UFC should not back down. If Fedor doesn’t sign this contract, his career from here on out will be as Lorenzo and Dana put it..irrelevant.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so what if on Friday the UFC announces that they did in fact sign Fedor – then Fedor comes out doing a Dave Chapelle impression of I’m rich Bitch
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the optimist in me is hoping this to be the case… If so, bravo, brilliant marketing UFC.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea and we are all sitting in our houses with our pants off watching fedor/brock
by JaTinkles on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why with our pants off?
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the entire sticking point:
M1 doesnt benefit by Fedor getting 5 million dollars… And Zuffa wont play a part in their stupid scheme. After Fedor gets the money if he wants to throw it away that’s up to him but if theres one thing the Dana hates more than anything else it’s scumbags like this.
So zuffa is making an offer for FEDOR because its FEDOR Zuffa wants and Zuffa wants him to decide where the money goes. Zuffa is also trying to take care of M1 so these leeches get off his back.
Every fucking thing was agreed to until M-1 tried to pull a bernie madoff and insisted a new “structure” for how the payments would be disbursed without involving Fedor.
Like I said the biggest fucking untold story in MMA. The funny thing is Zuffa now has the 1 million per fight contract Vadim negotiated on his own behalf at the expense of Fedor.
Here’s the bottom line and here’s what they mean by “co-promotion”.
“Pay us the money and we will decide what Fedor gets because we are co-promoting (wink-wink)” THIS WAY THEY CAN HIDE THEIR THEFT.
You wanna know how much they want to pay Fedor? About 10% of the negotiated amount.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.
So even if Zuffa offers Fedor 10 million… M-1 dont give a shit unless they decide where the money goes not Fedor.
SO THE ENTIRE STICKING POINT IS M-1 WANTS TO STRUCTURE THE DEAL SO IT’S EASIER FOR THEM TO STEAL.
This is what “co-promotion” means.
by mmalogic on Jul 30, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 32 recs
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.
Now make it green people. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow…that’s unreal…that’s absurd…how have they been getting away with this…?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could Tom Atencio be a part of something like that
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor was his shot at getting viewers.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just asking based off of Tom’s own words of doing what is best for the sport and the fighters (paraphrased)
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might not have realized it, he may not have know how M-1 splits the money, but realistically it should be a complete 180 from what it is.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s what he cared about the third show would have happened.
I don’t know why people buy everything they hear in public.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy was oblivious to reality
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CALICE TABERNAC DU CAVRE CHRIS MEUD-ZI TETE AU CARRE!~!!!!!!!!!
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Babelfish gave me this:
CHALICE TABERNAC OF CAVRE CHRIS MEUD-ZI HEAD WITH THE CROSS-SECTION
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Translation:
[swearword too horrible to translate] shitty fucking asshole! Christ! fuck you, shitheads!
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Directed @ finkie, not logic of course.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know which one I like more.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1) What’s the swearword?
2) I didn’t recognize more than 2 words – how much of that is slang?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its mostly slang, and I don’t know the correct spelling. I just know the phonetic versions
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
calice tabernac means the Tabernacle Chalice that the communion wine is served from.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought so, but I didn’t catch that was a curse…interesting. My knowledge of French is mostly Parisian, with some Cajun inflection/slang.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah if you ever plan on going to Quebec give me a ring.
My basic army is in Quebec, so I’ll be getting a masters is Quebequois swearing :P.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feel free to pass on any swearwords you learn!
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a translation of “is Fedor ducking?”
Hello, Japan!
by Mr.Kib on Jul 30, 2009 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor, est-ce qu'il évite?
(lit. Is Fedor avoiding?)
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And once again mmalogic makes perfect fucking sense. This is EXACTLY why Dana needs to meet Fedor face to face.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why not just split it in half? Give half to Fedor, half to M-1.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because Fedor is the one earning the money not M-1; if Fedor chooses to place some of his earnings back into M-1 as an investment that is his choice
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it’s not his choice, it’s M-1’s, that’s the whole point. It SHOULD be his choice but since he is never involved in the negotiations then he gets no say.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but not in his eyes, to him it’s an investment in a company that he co-owns.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let him invest the money the UFC pays to him then.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then where would the M-1 Global brand be?
You’ve got to think priorities here, Richard.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M-1 = Mother Russia?
Oh I think we’re on to something.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe its like yao ming and how the nba had to pay a shitload of money to the chinese govt….just think of m1 as the russian govt
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by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They offered M1 money
The NBA probably would’ve balked at letting China co-promote.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like we are still missing some stuff here. How come the UFC offer was conveniently leaked not not M-1’s counter offer?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it’s a dick move to show the world the other organizations offer?
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a dick move to leak yours as well.
This was obviously a move done to put more pressure on M-1 and vilify them even more, though, I don’t see how that is possible at this point.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really, not when tons of MMA fans accuse you of not trying hard enough. If M-1 thinks they are so “in the right” they should release their offer and get laughed out of business.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s true that many an accusation has been lobbed the UFC’s way for “not trying hard enough to sign Fedor”. That is one of big reasons why I am so very much behind the UFC in these negotiations. What more could they have added to this offer? Nothing, I say.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Life time supply of ice cream was the deal breaker…my sources say.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a dick move to reveal what you offered?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you Subo…haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rarely feel like I need to comment
when I see you patrolling the threads, subo.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still should – I can’t do it alone
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You apparently don’t feel the need to rec, either :p
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When credit's due,
you give it. Doesn’t matter how it looks ;)
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, Inquisitor! Punish the heretics!
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm a total literary slob,
but the Eisenhorn omnibus was clearly and definitively the greatest book trilogy/series I’ve ever read.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Darktower series probably takes it for me but:
- I am a sucker for anything that draws from the Old West
- I haven’t read the Eisenhorn series
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, that does it.
I’m going to go buy it this weekend. You’re the umpteenth person that’s extolled it, and I’m a MASSIVE fan of a song about it called Gunslinger by Demons & Wizards (pretty good thrash metal)
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Blind Guardian…
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see almost zero possibility
that this is true, seeing as in order to know that Hansi Kursch is in both groups, you’d have to be a pretty hardcore metal head/nerd, and Blind Guardian was/is at the top of the thrash/speed metal scene.
Even if you do, though, it’s awesome that you caught that splitter in the dirt.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, they qualify as “power metal”, which is just thrash + symphonic rock, and I despise the latter. The lyrics are too goofy for me. Also, they’re more concerned with speed than musicality. Sometimes Verse-Chorus-Verse isn’t a bad idea.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I don't know how long you've
followed them, but they really have transitioned across pretty much every style of metal except for black and death. Their albums are largely independent of each other stylistically, at least in the overall theme and construction of the album.
And symphonic rock is almost always just garbage. I went through the Rhapsody/Luca Turilli phase a few years ago, and while there is some good stuff in there, it’s really only good for getting a D&D campaign mood going any more.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dabbled in them a few years back when I was exploring new bands and wasn’t too impressed – just seemed like guitar wanking. Then, once “Through the Fire and Flames” came out on Guitar Hero and listened to every nerd say they’re the craziest band ever, I swore blood vengeance on them.
I’m more of a Mastodon/Lamb of God/Opeth fan.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might want to give
Nightfall in Middle Earth a try. Pretty much all Blind Guardian fans agree it’s their best offering to date. If you don’t like that, then yeah, they’re just not for you.
I tried Lamb of God and didn’t like it. Like you, I had to dabble in tons of music to get to the stuff that I liked, so sometimes good ones get caught under the tread.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Previewing on YouTube currently…
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole album
is designed to be played 1-27 (or whatever, I don’t have the case in front of me) as a musical presentation of J.R.R. Tolkien’s “The Silmarillan.” Some of the songs are outstanding, in my opinion. Not many duds, really.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're listening to new Lamb of God
There’s a good reason you don’t like it. It’s awful.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ashes of the Wake was their high point.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was into Palaces Burn, too. The newest album and the one before it were clown shoes. When I heard Redneck I honestly thought it was parody.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That song sucked.
Do you listen to Isis? I’ve really gotten into them lately.
Sunn O))) is also the dumbest band I’ve heard. Do you like static? Then buy our album!
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
I love Isis.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? I think their new album Wrath is a big improvement from Sacrament. My fav is Palaces
by moopwontplay on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know, very few people like the ending of the series. I mean very. Like I’m the only one I know of.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind tragedy, and I don't mind
open-to-interpretation endings. But either way, I’m going to have to check it out.
Thanks for the warning, though. It might take the sting off an otherwise solid/excellent read.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the ending, but not the part right before it.
by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But seriously.
If you enjoy epic, fast-paced, no bullshit sci-fi combat with INTENSELY despairing and gothic overtones, as well as pretty biting commentary on what happens when you give government too much power, you need to dig in to the Warhammer 40,000 universe. And there is NO better way than by reading the Eisenhorn omnibus.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love 40k’s fiction. Fuck it. You get Darktower and read it. I’ll get Eisenhorn and read all of them. Convene back here in a couple months?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a plan ;)
It’ll really be a couple months, too. When I vacation, I really vacation.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mostly don’t care for the books because WH40K is so over-the-top, I can’t take it too seriously, but I love Cain because of the humor. My best friend also sees it as a satire of the Middle Ages & theocratic governments in general.
Do you play?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've dabbled with the miniatures system,
but only with a friend’s gear. As to the newer RPG, I own many of the books, but don’t have anyone to game with :(
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve borrowed a friend’s army, but I love Dawn of War on the PC.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved the first DoW
for what it was, because of the theme. I was really looking forward to DoW2, and I have to say I wasn’t terribly disappointed, but the gimmick of just creating uber bosses (with no apparent justification for the super-badassedness) at the endstage of most of the levels kind of got to me.
I love the tactical elements of advancing and retreating, though. I wish there was some variation in the playthrough of the single-player campaign, though.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DoW is the most diverse RTS since StarCraft – 9 factions, all well-balanced? How can you top that?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
They milked it too hard, in my opinion, with all the expansions accompanied by very few actual gameplay improvements. But you’re right, it’s the true successor to Starcraft.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem
The true successor to Starcraft – Starcraft II – will be what forces me to buy a new computer.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a UFC fanboy. Live for the Swarm.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SC2 will not have LAN capabilities, and each single-player campaign will be sold separately, beginning with the Terrans.
Screw that.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're doing the same thing with
DoW2 though :(
I’m just glad I’m a Space Marine nut, so I got their version first.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WH40k
is definitely not for everyone. But for me, it resonates almost perfectly. It’s interesting that you describe it as over-the-top. It almost certainly is, but most people I know who’ve read it don’t mind that part too much, they usually get all bummed out over the darkness and despair of it all.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed all throughout Hobbes’s Leviathan (“The life of man is…solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”). Darkness & despair don’t bother me.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alongside Night is one of my favorite sci-fi novels. Wonderfully dystopian.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll stash it in the memory warehouse
for this weekend’s bookstore splurge.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read Ciaphas Cain
A cowardly commissar? Brilliant! If you haven’t read his series, do it!
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have four or five Ciaphas Cain books.
I’m leaving for a vacation soon, so I’ll have opportunity to read them.
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by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s dick move to show yours during a negotiation as well.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, in fairness to the UFC, right now the people at M-1 are acting like a bunch of dicks with this co-promotion bs.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only you could turn this into a situation where the UFC is doing the wrong thing
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 30, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, it’s a dick move for Fedor and M1 to have a press conference where all they really announce is that they want to co-promote?
I mean, that’s really the only thing in their contract.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The UFCs offer was fair.
M-1s offer was complete crap. And Fedor might get internet access and find out they are crooks.
by Riney on Jul 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t understand how M-1 is making a counter offer – someone please enlighten me
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do they expect? 50/50? FUCK THEM
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The counter offer was ‘all that stuff and we co-promote’?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re right… as long as its HIS CHOICE. And under HIS OWN AUTHORITY.
by mmalogic on Jul 30, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I’m all for getting Fedor in the room with Dana and Lorezno so they can hash out the details, I just don’t think it will ever happen.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So holding point of the agreement is that Zuffa cares about the morality of where the money goes? Hard to believe.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More of, the UFC dosen’t want the world to see if they are paying M-1 more than they are Fedor. As in, not looking like they are getting fucked.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a payment structure and want nothing to do with mailing checks to a potentially criminal organization. Are you kidding with this?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the holding point is that they’re not going to co-promote with M fucking 1.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is just silly, too.
They’re going to get tons of exposure with their banners and such, and you KNOW they’d get drop-ins by the commentators at every semi-reasonable opportunity.
If Fedor doesn’t sign this deal (even if it’s off by 50% in money) then he clearly has absolutely zero intention of ever fighting in the UFC.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is that hard to believe?
Everyone always acts like their super big scumbags, but what have they really done?
The thing they did to piss off Randy was offer Fedor more money than him. Tito has spent years whining about how they don’t pay enough, yet he never found someone to pay him more?
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wanna know how much they want to pay Fedor? About 10% of the negotiated amount.
If this is true, then the reality of the situation is Vadim & Co are the mobbish thugs we’ve all accused them of being, half in-jest.
THAT is some crazy shit.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 30, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand how he could be manipulated so easily. The only thing I can think of is that he has this ridiculous blind faith that God will look out for him. The man needs to step back into reality. If you don’t fight for your rights, then you’re going to get fucked. The world can be a cruel monstrosity. And this is fucking proof.
Wake up Fedor!!!
by timetosaygoodbye on Jul 30, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely understand how that could happen because I’m a living example. I don’t know how much I made in my last two years of work; in fact, I don’t know what my salary was at my last job. I never knew; my wife took care of that, and I hate thinking about money, so as long as the lights and hot water stayed on, I knew I was okay.
Now, I would be that dull if we were dealing with millions (a low-level bureaucrat only makes so much), but I know the mentality. Fedor seems like a fairly “sparse” guy (other than the ice cream and roller coasters), and he probably just thinks “Of course Vadim will look after my best interests – that’s why I pay him!”
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
100% correct.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By The way my Guarantee still stands :)
Fedors next fight will be in the UFC.
(I never said the announcement would be made friday though – that was the LA Times… the friday conference call is about something else. )
by mmalogic on Jul 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
ESPN deal? Not that you’ll answer.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still can’t sign anywhere, can he?
M-1 thinks they can win this PR battle if Fedor sits out, don’t they?
They’re fucking stupid, aren’t they?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah what happened to his Affliction contract?
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He never had a direct contract with Affliction; his contract was with M-1 Global who “co-promoted” with Affliction by lending them Fedor. That’s part of the reason why Zuffa is smart not to co-promote with them: M-1 does nothing except get paid and if it all goes south, the other guy is left holding the bag.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"95% certain BROCK VERSUS FEDOR will be on UFC 103. AS THE NEW NEW MAIN EVENT"
That sneaky 5%. I was psyched.
“EA ban isnt going anywhere…”
“yes… signing with EA is like signing a fight contract.
Now the "BAN" doesnt mean forever – as soon as he’s out of his EA deal he can come in"
Is the above still operative?
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 30, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
co-promotion is “code” for ponzi scheme…
by mmalogic on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've said exactly this plenty of times
Its obvious co-promotion is a scheme for Vadim to get a bigger amount of Fedor’s check then he could from a reasonable management fee.
by SES 84 on Jul 30, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you all imagine the backlash Coker & Strikeforce would get for signing Fedor
Their viewership would drop big time
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
I doubt it. I think people would watch even if they hate fedor at that point. Everyone loves a spectacle.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 30, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will watch, but will they pay?
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it and when M-1 Global/Fedor demolish the company…
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
honestly?
I wouldn’t order a PPV with him if this all ends up being true. Since I’m a showtime subscriber, if they put on an event, on Showtime, with Fedor, bet that I’ll be watching it.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 30, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really struggled to watch their event – I have Showtime as well and I was not entertained to tell ya the truth
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may be a bit extreme but...
If Fedor doesn’t go to the UFC, I will never pay to see him fight again. This is just fucking ridiculous.
www.mma-elite.com
by Brad Ackerson on Jul 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not extreme at all.
I wouldnt not pay to see him fight again either.
by jafotinatos on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
add me as well, I may now choose to watch Brock again
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me either. He loses my PPV money. He fears the Brock.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to love the people trying to justify Fedor right now. Tito Ortiz could sign back with the UFC no problem. And he is a much bigger draw. Fedor is just scared.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 30, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Fedor is scared, he is just naive.
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by Brad Ackerson on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope some big names come out and speak on this topic, just like they did Brock…because this, in my opinion is far, far worse than anything Brock could ever do. Not saying bash Fedor, but M-1’s way of negotiating and screwing over brock needs to be talked about.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
screwing over fedor*
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
M1 has screwed over brock for the last time!
by reciprocal on Jul 30, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically they did screw him out of the chance to take the #1 spot from the #1 heavyweight…but yeah, I meant Fedor. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009
by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God, I hate Glenn Beck.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find this so hilarious,
because you and I are apparently on opposite ends of the political stuff, yet we absolutely agree in (pretty much) all things MMA.
MMA is the uniter, not the prez (whoever that may be).
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well im actually a libertarian…not right or left. i just believe that ppl should live without an overbearing prescence of govt. oh and the national debt just pisses me off!!
But i love MMA i wont argue with you there!!
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009
by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stewart & Colbert eviscerated him tonight (Not that it’s hard). It was a work of beauty.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glenn beck is awesome…i listen to him on the am station on my way to work and crack up!! hes like john stewart but on the flipside
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009
by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference being that people laugh with Stewart, but at Beck. He speaks in such broad, empty platitudes that I doubt he does any critical thinking whatsoever. I lost all respect for him when he said, “Obama appears to have a deep-seated hatred for white people”, then a minute later, when pressed about it, says “I don’t think he dislikes whites at all.” That kind of double-think makes Orwell cry. Won’t say anymore here (no politics-talk), but my email’s on my profile if you want more venom for him.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is correct.
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
by MMArazorback on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At what point will Fedor just drop M-1?
When will Fedor realize that Fink is holding him back?
by Discman2 on Jul 30, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
never :(
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is today, the 29th?…………………………………
never
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was saying this shit a year ago
…and got pounced on for questioning their relationship.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t been vocal about it, but I gotta say, I thought the same thing. Brought it up in some conversations, but just kinda got blow away by all the “What!? Fedor omfg gtfo you noob.”
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When this thing really fleshes out, I’ll go back and find quotes of those conversations. People were vehement at my suggestion that Vadim is a thief. Now it’s clear that he is.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking do it man, because if you went to your everyday semi-knowledgable guy and laid out the entire story for him and let him really think about it, he’d come to that same conclusion. And I’m talking about a year ago.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is fairly odd
how the people who supported Vadim are silent, or at least subdued now.
this was a masterstroke by the UFC.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the alternative to the UFC?
M-1 and Strikeforce split the 1 million dollar proceeds from Showtime?
by cyph on Jul 30, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The alternative is he sits out the next year battling Zuffa in court
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and possibly losing this good of an offer once they decide to cooperate
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, as much as i’d love to see him in the ufc, there’d be some sweet justice in the ufc taking the offer off the table once he finally wises up and realizes it’s his only option.
by woooburn on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does the pic at the top remind anyone else of this?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I gonna go put my nutsack on your drumset!
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sorry but IVAN TREMBOW STRIKES AGAIN
events, etc. Leaking out such an inflated dollar figure is very transparent on Zuffa’s part.and lol at the UFC for leaking out such an inflated dollar figure. That’s the easiest thing in the world to leak out in an effort to put pressure on the other side, because of the obligatory, "OMG, he turned down that much money!" response.
In fact, dollar figures have never been a major factor in holding up the UFC/Fedor negotiations. In 2007, the UFC offered a guarantee of $1.5 million per fight, and Fedor’s side was understandably happy with that figure. It wasn’t the money that held up the deal, and I’d be shocked if that’s what is holding up the deal now. There are fewer companies making offers now than there were in 2007, so I can’t imagine Fedor’s side wanting more than the $1.5 million per fight that was offered in 2007. There are more important things than dollar figures, such as not having the standard UFC contractual clause that auto-renews the contract for life if you’re a champion, not giving up the right to represent your home country in Sambo
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 30, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Zuffa leaked it, but anyone who thinks that Sambo is a deal breaker is an idiot.
by Jahbulon on Jul 30, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If someone offered me 30 million dollars to do what I do for a living and said “you can’t ride your motorcycle anymore” or “you can’t engage in activities that could prevent you from performing your obligation to us”, I’d sell the fucking bike and I’d just sit in my castle in my money suit.
Oh wait…. People do do that. They’re called professional athletes.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 21 recs
Rec’d.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d sell the fucking bike and I’d just sit in my castle in my money suit.
Outstanding.
by Estrada on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He learned his lesson.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sit in my castle in my money suit.
Made my day, man.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn....
Brutal and perfect. Well done
by VegasBatman on Jul 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that dumbass that the contract doesn’t “auto-renew for life”
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was gonna type that, but then at this point, who really cares anymore. Bottom line is Fedor is scared. PERIOD.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck Ivan Trembow.
Ah, that never gets old.
There are fewer companies making offers now than there were in 2007, so I can’t imagine Fedor’s side wanting more than the $1.5 million per fight that was offered in 2007.
YEAH GIVEN VADIM’S INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORLD ECONOMY AND LACK OF GREED.
AND THEY FIXED THE SAMBO THING!!!!!
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t sat that. No one deserves to be called that.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point. Bill isn’t as batshit insane.
by rabrown on Jul 30, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
M-1 said “This is too much money”.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I’m sorry, given that we have fewer promoters trying to put on a fight for Fedor now than we used to, we’ll have to ask you to lower your offer.”
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Jul 30, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if fedor signs with the ufc then his fighter purses would go on record and be available so we could see if he was really making 5 mil a fight …also the ufc would not put out that they offered that much if the offer was not really on the table…because if its not the truth then m1 could say hey according to the internet you offered us 5 mil a fight so we want that.
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009
by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Fightlinker
The fact that he isn’t going to sign with the UFC tells a major story about his character. Yes, FEDOR’S character. Vadim Finkelchtein is just a mouthpiece. That’s like blaming Robert Gibbs for something Obama did.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
How does it reflect on Fedor?
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor wanted to be in the UFC, he would be. He could give M-1 the finger and sign the contract.
It’s Fedor – Fedor – that is ducking the UFC.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense. What could he possibly be ducking them for?
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not ducking UFC, ducking this man:
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, yes.
There is no other explanation. Fedor, we’ll make you even richer. You can do Sambo and sell M-1. What is his explanation?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, mmalogic over up another explanation in his ultra-green post above. Makes more sense than the whole ‘ducking’ thing to me.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^offered up, that should read. Ugh, fail fingers strike again.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That post explained M-1's motivations
But what are Fedor’s? Does he love M-1 that much?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the motivation is actually Fedor’s ignorance of the situation and misplaced trust in Finkie.
by Estrada on Jul 30, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that lets Fedor off the hook
HE is the one not signing the contract.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, and as the cliche goes “ignorance is not an excuse.” However, it may be a plausible explanation in this case.
by Estrada on Jul 30, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Aleks claims that Vadim and Co. are using Fedor. So, perhaps my estimation of Fedor’s intelligence was a bit too high.
Kind of sad, really.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he’s either stupid or scared?
I vote for scared stupid.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd If he wants to fight the best he would sign...Bottom line...
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have seen it.
Nicely done, subo.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is irrelevant until he signs.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, you realize the UFC just offered this unsigned “irrelevant” fighter a 30+ million dollar contract, right? I don’t understand why people feel the need to slight Fedor in this way. If anything, today’s developments squash that notion entirely.
Will he become much more obscure in the future without having fought in the UFC? That’s certainly possible.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, you do realize this is akin to a major NBA player getting a huge offer from lets say the Lakers to win a championship, but instead he goes off to play in Europe instead. That player then becomes irrelevent. Heard of Josh Childress? No? It’s because he ditched the Atlanta Hawks to go play in Europe. He’s irrelevant.
Same thing will happen to Fedor if he doesn’t sign with the big boys. Not saying he isn’t a valuable commodity. But if Fedor doesn’t sign, he will no longer matter in the grand scheme of things any more. He won’t be fighting the best. He will become irrelevant. Sorry.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You underestimate the awesomeness of european women.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 30, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must agree.
Damn, just damn.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, a 30+ million dollar contract offer signifies that Fedor is the most relevant fighter in the sport. In the UFC’s fight, at least.
No amount of NBA/European League analogies will change that.
And yes, I know exactly who Josh Childress is. Was hoping he’d sign with the Celtics instead of returning to Greece.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^In the UFC eyes, I meant.
/kills fingers
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He become relevant only in the UFC. Which why he should sign. The only way he becomes any sort of mainstream figure is through the UFC. But you actually think people will care about Fedor if he doesn’t sign. Mainstream America has no idea who he is. And right now all of the hardcores are against him. I’m not arguing that he’s not relevant now. I’m saying if doesn’t sign he will become irrelevant.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edit. Supremacy still supports Fedor and co-promotion. = )
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I agreed that there is a fair chance he’ll become an obscure reference to most MMA fans in the future. Not sure what you’re getting at.
This is what you said:
Fedor is irrelevant until he signs
Fans care about Fedor now. They have all the way up to this point. The UFC obviously cares a great deal. The fact that they have gone to these lengths to sign Fedor reflects his relevance in the MMA world.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably shouldn’t have written that exact statement. I moreso agree that Fedor will become irrelevant if he doesn’t sign. We pretty much agree on everything else, so I’m done debating here.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 30, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Childress got paid to go to Greece. Fedor isn’t going to get paid to go somewhere else.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doubtful
Fedor will defeat this gorilla
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barak Lesnarrrrrrr
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s def ducking the UFC, and its not just that he’s scared of Brock, its that he’s scared to fight in a cage and most importantly, without his managers “co-promoting” he can’t have them make special rules for him and hand pick weak opponents, etc…basically the UFC would make him fight the best on a level playing field and he’s terrified because he can’t win that way…
by Reaser16 on Jul 30, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’d (occasionally) do that in Pride too – Herring, Nog, CC, Hunt was a solid fighter.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do the Bee Gee’s have to do with Obama?
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Jul 30, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a bold statement, but one that needs to be made, especially if it helps get their attention. A manager IS supposed to act as their employer’s mouthpiece, so FL is just calling a spade a spade on that one.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe thats why Alexs got out, and might train with his bro, but has nothing Fink, and gives props to UFC?
by NinjaRehab on Jul 30, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the stadium is the deal breaker. lol
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Negotiate your left nut off
If that offer is true it appears Vadim already has and is now just going for the right nut. Take some advice, try not to get caught up in the ups and downs of the negotiation cause it’s not going to end quickly. That’s a strong effort and offer by UFC, it will get done.
From my own experience dealing with that part of the world they don’t necessarily evaluate an offer based on the terms but monitor your fatigue factor and keep pushing until you’ve had enough. It also doesn’t help that UFC is the big Yankee organization. There is a paranoia that the rich Yankees will take advantage of the situation and often a belief no matter how good an offer that more is being held back from the table.
It’s a great offer if true. My advice to Fedor/M-1 is to take it before the UFC gives a 2nd thought. From logic’s post it sounds like UFC is already getting tired and there isn’t too much more bullshit that can be tossed on the wall.
by bignerd on Jul 30, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude
M1 is being a god damn pain in the ass
by drudog1715 on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do we have confirmation that the details leaked by Zuffa are actual fact?
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Jul 30, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re saying it was their offer. How would you confirm that?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic spies.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea. I’m just saying that is it within the realm of possibility that they inflated numbers to make themselves look better?
Not saying it’s true; just sayin’.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
People are just running with it.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what more confirmation you’d want than Carmichael Dave.
He’s not going to make it up, so it’s obvious that he got the info from Dana. So if this isn’t good enough, nothing would be.
by Phildo on Jul 30, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else listening to the Carmichael Dave show right now? It’s been pretty good. I think there have even been one or two BE shout outs.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need is a #m1globalsuck shout out and we’re getting somewhere. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#m1globalsucks * Gotta keep it right just in case people want to tweet about it. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No – he’s not leaving any doubt as to the existence of the UFC offer, right?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. As a matter of fact he just said that he trusts the source 100% who gave him the offer details.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the thing for all the doubters that say the UFC offer is bullshit (especially you Trembow you fuck)
What if Fedor agrees to the leaked terms?
… (crickets)
Morons.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Disintegration -- I'm taking it in stride.
Follow me on Twitter.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m listening, enjoying it so far.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That PepBoys ad was fairly annoying.
by drightler on Jul 30, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You ain’t fuckin kidding. haha It’s ok, the show makes up for it.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I gave up and turned it off after 2 min of pep boys.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 30, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weak
he just said UG and sherdog are the two best MMA forums.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 30, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, this ain’t a forum.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 30, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It pretty much is though.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 30, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just dropped the BE name
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The price per fight does seem inflated. I can’t believe Dana woulda kept his cool if they turned this down for real.
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Mafia? in my pocket?
It’s more likely than you think.
by goodbones on Jul 30, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst part is, if the negotiations really do fall through completely, all we’ll get from M-1 is a bullshit fucking press conference and more Millen than I need in a lifetime.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Love the Chili Peppers..
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 30, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bobby lashley? really I couldn’t care less about bobby
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 30, 2009 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the UFC can offer this much to fedor i dont think the UFC is paying their other star fighters the right amount
by pandaboy99 on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
paying one fighter large amounts is different to paying a swag of ppl stupidly high money
they could probably afford it but we all know whats happens when an org pays too many ppl over the top money. it would open the flood gates
by milson on Jul 30, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of Fedor as UFC’s new quarterback.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA is now more monopolized than it has ever been in history and Fedor just got offered the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport.
Weird, huh?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Monopolies are bad for the sport!!! BAD I TELL YOU!!! BAD!!
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 30, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need Photoshop
Made a gif because I was so sick of this crap. Version 1.0. Needs more work.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 30, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 13 recs
ahaha that was awesome.
loved the look on hendos face when you first see him in the car.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also just noticed on 3rd viewing that finkys face turns to bispings after he gets hit.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just modified the original gif with Vadim, and the intro.
The text might be be too fast but it says “Bisping Fucked Up” level.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 30, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty great work though, Henderson fits the role perfectly, down to the leather jacket and the Firebird.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats cos its not Sokonjudo’s. This gif has been floating around since the Hendo/Bisping fight.
Way to fuck it up.
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Jul 30, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yey.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve watched this thing 50 times and it doesn’t get old!!!!!!!!!!
by Donk696 on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KID NATE…
I have a new poll for you.
“Who do you hate more?”
A) Josh Barnett
B) Vadim Finklemicktinklestein
C) I’m just happy to be a part of a Kid Nate poll.
by DirtyML on Jul 30, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take option B, for 500. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The idea that this hasn’t been signed because of Fedor’s “princinples” is fucking outrageous.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what kind of management team let’s somebody drop a deal like that
by drano on Jul 30, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has become a win/win situation for Dana White
Fedor signs…. he is now able to put on some of the best fights in MMA history..
Fedor doesn’t sign… all this coverage of this deal has managed to alienate enough people to not care what Fedor Emelianenko does and becomes irrelevant to anything further in MMA due to the fact he was given a golden opportunity to join and didn’t accept.
Bravo Dana, very well played.
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 30, 2009 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
that’s a good point after this dana’s gonna play it off like fedor is scared to fight the best in the world and I can see him slowly fading into rickson gracie status
by drano on Jul 30, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, not sure I agree with Carmichael on this one. Fedor and Aleks have had a somewhat strained relationship in the past, if I recall correctly.
by a tommy point on Jul 30, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No one wants to see Mike Goldberg commentate.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 30, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From Sherdoggy:
Strikeforce is one promotion willing to co-promote with M-1 Global. Scott Coker, Strikeforce’s CEO, told Sherdog.com that it was his understanding that Emelianenko and M-1 Global have "four or five offers on the table," including ones from boxing promotions and television networks. Coker said he would continue his own talks with Finkelstein in the next couple of weeks. Finkelstein and Emelianenko, who has partial ownership in M-1 Global, said they will begin their trek back to Russia Wednesday night.
Finkelstein did not rule out further discussions with the UFC, though it appears that no timetable has been set.
"Maybe not now," Finkelstein said, "but I think later there will be some progress."
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Strikeforce-maybe
That’s what that entire paragraph can be reduced to.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 30, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost 500 comments and there is a conversation going on in the middle about heavy metal and dungeons and dragons.
I don’t think anyone is reducing anything in this post.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 30, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, indeed.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Jul 30, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RIP. To bad he missed his saving throw versus death.
We still have Monte Cook, super genius to save us.
by VegasBatman on Jul 30, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jul 30, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who cares about strikeforce. Fedor vs. Brett Rogers (yawn).
by thesource on Jul 30, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whose interests does M-1 and Finklestein represent? If Fedor signs that contract he win and wins big. He gets the big fights, big money, big exposure and moves the heavyweight division and MMA forward.
But why scrap everything just for a co-promotion. Fedor has never fought for M-1, he isn’t their heavyweight champion. They just represent him and he is just an advert for their promotion. So is that why he doesn’t sign, just because M-1 can’t reap the rewards? This is a seperate issue, if M-1 want to build their promotion, then build it by putting on big fights, and not leeching off others. M-1’s selfishness means everyone – including them – loses. M-1 dosn’t care about Fedor’s best interests, they only care about their own…
by Donk696 on Jul 30, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good god! just use that 30 million and put it towards M1 anyway you like!!!
by pandaboy99 on Jul 30, 2009 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bloody Elbow reference on Carmichael Dave show! Woot!
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by kyfm621 on Jul 30, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what does M-1 Global actually do...
…aside from siphoning off Fedor’s winnings, that is? Are they the promotion that runs M-1 Mixfight? Or is Mixfight an arm of Global? Or are they two parts of another holding company?
I cannot think of a single reason that Fedor is so personally invested with M-1 Global that he cannot say to his manager, “Look, I would be a fucking NUT to turn this down?” and just waive off the co-promotional aspect. It’s ludicrous to anyone who has a working brain.
Either Fedor is unwilling to put himself in there with top competition (unlikely to me, since he readily accepted Sylvia and Arlovski and was all set to take on the at-the-time #2 heavyweight), or Vadim and M-1 have something over Fedor we don’t know about. Who fucking knows.
by ihateemo on Jul 30, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or Vadim and M-1 have something over Fedor we don’t know about.
A gun.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Jul 30, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re keeping his puppy hostage.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 30, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
m1 doesnt do shit for fedor or mma as a whole…ive never once watched an m1 challenge show and i watch pretty much every mma event i can(although am looking forward to lawal vs frye)…if m1 has enough money to turn down 30 million then why the hell dont they put him on there own card!!!
its because there card isnt going to make shit for a profit wether fedor is on it or not….they know that they will never truly break into the mma market without co promoting with the ufc…theyre also fuckin scumbags for using fedor like this, they know they can get more money for fedor if he fights for another org. where as he wont make them crap under the M1 banner, they mustve learned that from affliction
"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"
The Glenn Beck Program, January 12 2009
by baldspot23 on Jul 30, 2009 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more proof fedor doesnt care about his fans or mma fans in general, when the whole world awaits for you to fight in the biggest mma promotion on earth, against arguably the best fighters, even the most selfish man would re evaulate his priorities, its not like he’s broke!! all he cares about is to make bank for himself and mr finkenstien. i would be really disappointed if ufc agreed to co promote, why should M1 reap the benefits off of ufc, when they had no hand in building it.
by realblood33 on Jul 30, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s no way they’ll co-promote.
If I still remember that Silva – Lidell stare down way back, the UFC def. remembers it.
'Ello G'vnor!
by IHateMMA on Jul 30, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i had to take a guess, id say the fertitas may have played a big role in creating this amazing contract, dana is not that generous. on the other hand, in all the uncertainty if a bout between fedor and lesnar were to take place, what do you guys think would be the nature of the fight ? and in all rationality who would come out on top ?
by realblood33 on Jul 30, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if u think about it
if u thnik about it 5 mil a fight you some of that money go’s to m-1 who else gets paid that much in ufc and if they get a piece of the ppv which will be a big like how much does m-1 make any ways and when they see there log people are gonna get interested and look them up and some will get hooked
by andrew07 on Jul 30, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A fighters motivation.
Fighters can be driven by two things..money or the need to test themselves. What drives Fedor?Cant be either of these things anymore. Does he seriously beleive he can single handedly take M1 to the top of the MMA Promotion food chain. As soon as the UFC pushes hard into Europe M1 is done.
Holy snapping duck shit...
by ABS363 on Jul 30, 2009 3:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s a fighter, they’re businessmen, and you’re a commenter trying to briefly fuse the prior two to fit what the third feels.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
by plastict on Jul 30, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor doesn’t do what M-1 wants him to, they’ll send his mom back to the brothel.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 30, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this offer legit?
I can’t believe that Fedor turned down this offer.
It was probably the best for him and M1. I can’t believe it.
Was the UFC really ready to pay 5 MILLIONS to a fighter who is not even mainstream?
by JackO on Jul 30, 2009 4:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s up to reality to do the blacklisting if this falls through. I don’t think reality wavers on its bargaining price. The truth will come out. Whoever is fucking this up is fucking themselves up.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
by plastict on Jul 30, 2009 4:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it is, the offer was probably more like 400k per fight with points on the buys that can make him about as much as Brock makes 3 million. The idea that the UFC would pay any fighter a salary of 5 mill is fantasy talk, but Fedor can make over 3 mill if his fights sell just like their other top fighter Brock, Chuck, Randy.
They can work out the sambo thing as long as he gives notice and it doesn’t conflict with a schedules fight. And Fedor wearing M1 logo’s is again nothing that really matters since M1is less known that he is.
What the UFC won’t do is give M1 a penny of their ppv profits, that again is fantasy talk that’s like letting a stranger go into your wallet and pulling out 100 bucks after you get you paycheck for no reason. That is probably one of the holdups Finkie wants to get paid personally and the UFC won’t allow anyone but the fighter to make money of their events.
Whatever the final deal was from Zuffa was huge and on par with what they’ve offer their top 1% of fighters which is great for a guy who isn’t a draw and unknown to the majority of their fans. It’s clear that Fedor wants no part of the UFC, after Friday we can all move on and focus on fighters who want to challenge themselves and leave out the guys who have other priorities.
by Raker on Jul 30, 2009 4:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
couldnt have said better, its really getting annoying to follow these lame negotiations, since affliction fell apart, not just the fans but the whole mma world has been frozen, everybody is anxious, its the same story on all mma sites. hopefully it will all go away after ufc press conference
by realblood33 on Jul 30, 2009 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed….I don’t believe the 5 Million per fight number. Fedor would be offered the highest salary in the UFC but it wouldn’t be so much higher then the other top fighters.
UFC is putting out these fantastic numbers to either show Fedor the kind of backlash that would ensue if he turns down a generous offer and also to protect themselves in the court of public opinion if he does not sign.
by Reciprocity on Jul 30, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this is is more marketing for the UFC and Fedor
Fedor will sign with the UFC eventually. Right now they are making it look like they are stalling, when I can pretty much guarantee that the deal has already been verbally agreed to and now what you are seeing daily is marketing for Fedor entering the UFC. Think about it. It worked with Couture, it will work with Liddell and it’s working right now for Fedor. I am not even a marketing maj