Clouds Gather for UFC Deal After Fedor Emelianenko Conference Call
by Kid Nate on Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM EDT
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BloodyElbow will be on today's Fedor Emelianenko call later this afternoon. But in the mean time I wanted to keep the breathless speculation and rumor-mongering going.
First up the LA Times adds an update:
The chief operating officer of Fedor Emelianenko's promotional company, M-1 Global, confirmed to The Times in an e-mail early this morning that the heavyweight, considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, is engaged in "intense negotiations with the UFC."
Joost Raimond told The Times that contract talks "are ongoing, but we have not reached any kind of agreement at this time."
And the buzz I'm hearing from the elves and birds that ping me with unsourced rumors, tweets and IMs throughout the day is not good.
UPDATE From MMA Junkie:
(3:30 p.m. ET on 7/29/09: A source close to the UFC makes the prospects of Emelianenko fighting in the UFC sound much more promising. The source said UFC officials have devoted much of their resources to working on a deal to sign the fighter in time for an official announcement during Friday's media call, as the L.A. Times initially reported. Sources close to M-1, though, continue to state such a deal is "unlikely.")
The odds against Fedor's infamously hard to deal with management and the hardball UFC brass cutting a deal seemingly remain as high as ever.
Stay tuned to Bloody Elbow as Michael Rome will be updating this post with news from the conference call.
Update 1: The call finally starts...with Jerry Millen. The MMA world just hasn't been the same without him. Nevermind, maybe it's not starting. Whatever.
Update 2: Vadim is up. Says there have been negotiations with the UFC and other companies. Not much else.
Update 3: Jerry Millen says Fedor will "headline" EA Sports' video game, which doesn't make any sense. I'm sure it makes Dana happy though. Fedor thanks everyone for coming.
Update 4: Reporter asks if Vadim plans any legal action against Affliction. Vadim says they will weigh all the options. M-1's attorney basically threatens Affliction and promises that if anything was done wrong, M-1 will go after the people responsible.
Update 5: MDS of MMA Fanhouse asks Fedor if he plans to meet Dana White. Answer is unintelligible. Sounds like Dana did talk to Fedor, but I'm not sure. UFC made a "good offer" to Fedor and M-1 made a counter-offer involving co-promotion. Says Fedor has many good offers he can take.
Update 6: Josh Gross asks why Fedor can't do the same deal GSP, Anderson Silva, and every other big fighter signs? Evasive answer. Why is co-promotion so important? Answer: M-1 is very big, we develop MMA all over the world. This is all talking points about M-1 at this point. It sounds like UFC came forward with a big offer, and now M-1 offered something back very different involving co-promotion. Amusingly, they say M-1's goal is to make MMA really popular all over the world.
Update 7: Beau Dure at USA Today asks what co-promotion really means? Evasive answer. Personal guess: it rhymes with scribe. Now they're going on at length about all the shows they are going to promote. They are just ignoring questions at this point and just talking about whatever they want. They say negotiations were productive, but they will only work on a co-promotion basis. Someone asks if he's leaning toward Strikeforce, and the answer is just that Strikeforce is one of their possible partners.
Update 8: Someone asks about Aleksander's quote about Vadim, they blow it off. Nothing is happening on this call, no announcement, it's just a PR stunt.
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Can we pass around the hat and see if we can raise enough money to put a hit out on the Fink?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I just gave them a bottle of Vodka and told them to come back later…I don’t think they’ll be bothering me much.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll do it for free...
Wait…do they have ppv in prison?
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by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If they don’t cut a deal, I wonder what Dana will be saying about Fedor then? I don’t think we’ve ever heard the kind of filth that would pour from his gaping mouth hole.
4 PM EST.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor: Not just better than other fighters: he’s special.
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Unique.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You know how you beat a unique fighter like Fedor?
(Sorry)
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M-1 is a joke and in the long run is going to cost Fedor his career.
by SBrooks1 on Jul 29, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What? You must be joking.
As long as there are PRIDE marks, Fedor will fight on!
As long as there are washed-up heavyweights, Fedor will fight on!
As long as there are pituitary giants and middleweights, FEDOR WILL FIGHT ON!
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Most of his career is behind him. How can he lose it?
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine with me. Let him retire and he loses his spot as #1 HW in the world never fighting the best in the UFC.
Everyone has to retire sometime.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true. If Fedor has his head so far up M-1’s ass then let him retire. Everyone will always wonder if he would have beat Couture, Mir and Lesnar and only Fedor will be to blame.
How many former UFC champions does a man have to beat to get some respect? (Nog, Timmay, Andre)
Actually, not that I think about it….Fedor has beaten more Former UFC Champions than Anderson Silva, GSP, Frank Mir or Brock Lesnar.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I give Fedor all the respect in the world and I would say he’s the #1 HW in the world right now. But beating Arlovski and Silvia (both out of their primes and Silvia sucks anyway) doesn’t really add to Fedor’s record other than name recognition.
but they are all former champs. So therefore, if Fedor comes to the UFC and beats Randy and Mir, does that also prove nothing?
Thus, as I said, Fedor has nothing to prove by going to the UFC.
But I still want him to.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Randy Couture
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 3:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
According to the rankings on this site 5 out of the top 10 HW’s fight in the UFC. What other organization can say the same thing?
Really? You think Rogers KO’d Arlovski because Andrei lost to Fedor five months earlier and that Sylvia got KO’d by Mercer because he lost to Fedor a year earlier? That’s asinine.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock:
UFC Undisputed Heavyweight Champion
Fedor:
Great record, no title that means anything, no where to fight anyone with any recognition
I dispute Brock's title.
He lost to Mir. Then he beat Randy. Ok. Technically he is “the champ”, however there is one guy in that 4 man equation that Brock has not fought yet….. Big Nog. Given his submission skills and ability to sustain a beating, I think Nog has a very good chance to beat Lesnar. Given that Lesnar was given a made-up “interim title”, I can’t fully take my hat off to him until he beats Noguiera.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nog lost to Mir
No one cares if you dispute it. It’s still undisputed.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
So did Lesnar. Then he beat Mir in a “re-do” after Griffin softened him up that week.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
You’re worse than mythbuster.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
last night I was thinking that if Fedor does in fact sign with the UFC and beats Brock and Randy, I believe that Frank Mir would be beat Fedor (based on him beating Nog)
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You don’t actually believe that, do you?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no, but it crossed my mind in that order
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And you're wrong
Nog was given the made up title which Mir then took from him. Lesnar took the actual belt from Randy.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Semantics.
either way…the whole thing is a circus.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no disputing. He utterly destroyed Frank Mir, who was the only guy to finish Nog. He has no reason to fight Nog.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 29, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see Mir before that fight? Jesus….he looked like he had been hit by a bus on the way to the arena. Definately not how you want to show up for a title fight against a Kodiak Bear.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This is bordering on trolling.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like he believes the crap he’s saying. It’s consistent with his past comments.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock's Title
Nog was given the interim title after beating Tim. Mir won the interim title from Nog. Lesnar won the original title after beating Coture. Lesnar would destroy Fedor the same way he destroys everyone, by using his power and size advantage.
Brock 2-1 against former champs, not bad in 5 fights total
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by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So Brock gets p’owned 33% of the time by former champions.
Fedor : 0%
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
fedor has an awesome record but alot of them were cans. Guys like mark hunt, iron head, and even an over the hill coleman. Fedor is the number one hw but if he does not jump to the UFC and fight what are now considered the legit hws he diserves to lose his number one ranking. Guys like george have cleaned out the division some thing fedor has yet to do. I believe many of the HWs in the UFC would give Fedor troubles.
So you are saying
Torres is the best fighter in the world then!
About this time last year.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
ok...
Whay other promotion (or all others combined) has a heavy weight roster like this…
Bock
Randy
Mir
Carwin
Cain
Kongo
Gonzaga
Crocop
Dos Santos
Big Nog
…and dont forget mighty Kimbo.
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by MMArazorback on Jul 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody. If you take all the Heavyweights outside of the UFC, it doesn’t even match that list. And those Heavyweights would be spread out across 4 or 5 different organizations.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet Roy Nelson Wins TUF...
and has a fight with Rothwell for the new UFC “Hamburgler Division” Title.
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by MMArazorback on Jul 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the only thing M-1 will get out of the UFC when it comes to “Co-Promotion” is getting some advertising space…and the broadcast will never mention M-1. The light at the end of the tunnel isn’t looking very bright.
Am I the only one whos going to laugh their ass off at mmalogic if this whole deal crashes and burns?
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mmalogic is probably the LA Times source.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the LA times bought it just as hard as everybody did in the Fedor topics yesterday. I know logic has been right before, but he’s also been wrong.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand the big deal about this mmalogic character. So what! He predicted that Fedor would end up in the UFC! Who hasn’t?? Even if Fedor doesn’t sign on now, he will eventually end up in the UFC.
he’s come up with some other big stories that turned out to be true, when no one was really thinking about them. besides, everyone wants to believe in santa claus.
by pr0cs on Jul 29, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fedor needs to take control of his career
If he wants to be the best ever, make real money, and fight the best fighters in the world . . . he needs to sign with the UFC. He has to know how much M-1 is hurting him right now. They have no bargaining power. Zuffa could turn Fedor into a mainstream fightgame legend if he would only let them.
I lived in Russia for three years, so I know how loyal they are towards each other and how in every part of life Russians mistrust outsiders. But what the UFC offers him . . . he has to know its the only place left. Where is he gonna go, Strikeforce? Brett Rogers, Alistair Overeem, and Fabricio Werdum are good fighters but come on! Dream or Sengoku? Really?
Come on Fedor, step up! Dana will take good care of you.
AHHHHHHHHH
Just sign the FUCKING contract its like waiting for a Christmas that never comes.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
But when it does, it’ll be all over your face.
Wait… that came out wrong…
Wait…. that too.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who knows
There only real investment is Fedor. I have been saying forever that Fedor will always be one the best ever but If he came to the ufc and dominated he would be cemented as the best ever.
The ufc doesn’t need him, they just threw down 1.5 million in ppv buys and are expanding without him. He doesn’t have much to bargain with. If he cares about his legacy he signs. Simple.
I think finkystein or whatever should fight Dana in a catchweigt bout.
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by xtremecouture on Jul 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i was thinking couldnt the ufc just buy that shitty little company. Then it wont be such a damn speedbump on negotiations.
Only if they allowed them to buy it, and the UFC doesn’t need to be in Russia.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They put on a bunch of MMA shows in Europe too.
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I don’t know, but they can’t be losing money. They continually put on shows, and some of the M-1 Challenge shows are actually pretty entertaining. They don’t have the most top-notch athletes unless you count Shane Del Rosario owning everyone in 10 seconds, but he’s on loan from SF.
It seems they are actually ramping up their next event in LA on the 28th, and they did manage to at least sign Lawal vs. Frye. It may be little profit, but it’s something.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The following major draws have signed a UFC Contract:
1. Randy Couture
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Forrest Griffin
5. Anderson Silva
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Georges St. Pierre
8. BJ Penn
There is no reason why Fedor Emelianenko cannot. Anybody who says differently has a severe case of the UFC hatred.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, Fedor is the only Russian in any Top 10…. From Heavyweight to Flyweight.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe you’ll find that Andrei Arlovski was a top 10 as recently as the last time Affliction booked him to fight Fedor.
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But only because the Russians let them be.
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(Or are we not gonna count Ukrainians and Belarus fighters?)
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but wait… I thought Fedor didn’t fight top competition because he hasn’t fought Brock Lesnar?
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Two different countries.
And Arlovski has signed a UFC Contract before. The only reason he left was because he was able to make $4 Million in 4 fights outside the UFC. Which is unheard of. Not because of their type of contracts.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
who else could they sign?
The only other russian fighters I can think of are hepetitis emelianenko and sergey kharitonov (who I actually would like to see in the ufc).
by willydynamite on Jul 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How many of those guys could make big money outside of the United States? None of them could match Fedor, that’s for sure.
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Are you joking?
Fedor has no selling power in any country.
1. USA? Proven not to be a draw.
2. Japan? Both RINGS & Pride saw decrease in crowds while he was their champion.
3. Russia? If he was a draw there, M-1 would have already put a card on for him. He isn’t.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is wrong in any of those statements?
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 29, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
1.Once he fight and defeat Brock he will be.
2.I got no numbers to prove you wrong.
3.Russia, forget russia, Fedor would be a draw in europe, as far as MMA goes, fedor is well know in europe, more than any brock lesnar.
You don't look like a Tanaka.
Coming from Poland I can vouch on #3. Everyone with a passing interest in MMA knows Fedor here.
by greco-roman airlines on Jul 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He obviously won’t be making the money he did in Pride, but he could still get paid in Japan.
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Getting paid and being a bigger draw are two very different things.
Nobody outside of Japanese fighters are real draws in Japan right now. And even their popularity is dwindling.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a good thing I didn’t say he was a huge draw then.
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I have to disagree..
No one knows who Fedor is in Russia. Plus GSP, has already proven to draw record gates and PPV buys in Canada. I even bet Anderson Silva in Brazil could draw more money in that weak economy than Fedor. Plus you don’t think Brock Lesnar with his freakshow aura in Japan wouldn’t be big money. Let’s not forget Fedor wasn’t even a draw in Pride.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Correctness has found a home… And it’s owner is filipinomix2oo0
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to disagree with your disagreement
You do remember that Putin went to his fight in St. Petersburg. That would seem to suggest he is pretty well known in Russia.
In any event, Fedor is gaining noteriety everyday in the US simply cause the sport is growing so rapidly.
I hope Fedor comes out and says “I don’t need the UFC. The UFC wants me”, and then announces his signing with a Japanese promotion just so I can watch everyone in the blogosphere shit a brick.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with your screen name.
And it would make people’s heads explode!! The Fedor fanboys wouldn’t know what to say.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
If he did that ill laugh at him and his management. Its the other way around. Go back to Japan and fight Antonio SIlva and Jose Conseco.
Then ill laugh at you for posting such an ignorant post and not hoping like the rest of us that he finally gets in the octagon
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by xtremecouture on Jul 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I do want him in the UFC. Badly.
I just think it is silly how people think Fedor has to somehow prove something by beating a rookie who was given a belt in his 3rd pro fight, rather than the other way around.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to watch
the best MMA fights. Period. I could give a fuck by which promoter. But guess what? The UFC is the best promoter with the best fighters. Why fight the system? Support MMA by supporting the UFC and any promoter putting on good fights. And no, Fedor vs Zulu isn’t top notch. If the UFC let Lesnar have 1 easy fight people would be screaming murder.
If you think that there isn’t a HW on earth who could defeat Fedor you are insane. EVERYONE can lose.
I’ll also admit to this brand of schadenfreude.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They're probably not announcing it until tomorrow
I’m pretty sure Dana wants to be the one to announce it officially.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
these next few days are gonna be TORTURE.
Rumors and speculation aplenty.
by willydynamite on Jul 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Does anyone think that maybe since this story broke out so early that maybe, just maybe, Fedor’s people are trying to cover their ass to not let the cat out of the bag this early by now telling people talks are ongoing. I feel like a deal is still possibly in place to be announced on Friday, and right now Fedor’s people are doing the whole denying, but not really denying bit. Just a thought.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
My opinion is tomorrow’s presser loses a lot of heat if this is announced today. Remember, Dana was denying a deal with Couture the day before the announcement.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
You never know, I’m picturing Dana announcing it , and then both Fedor and Brock walk out and we hear that the fight is planned for 103. Following said announcement I will call out of work and drink the rest of the day in bliss.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor is letting his management kill his career. By not signing with the world’s preeminent MMA organization he’s looking downright foolish.
Imagine a world where Ali only fought in Golden Gloves, Barry Sanders played in the CFL, and Tiger was playing on the Nationwide Tour. That is essentially what Fedor is doing. I’m not an avid fan of his, but I cannot deny his talent. I’ve never seen anyone so willing to turn his back on his own career over a few bucks.
Without Affliction and UFC’s money M-1 will never amount to anything of any consequence. Which is M-1’s overall goal, is it not?
PS: None of this is pertinent if he signs the fucking contract.
by Screwface on Jul 29, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This updated was on MMA Junkies website
(UPDATE, 3:30 p.m. ET on 7/29/09: A source close to the UFC makes the prospects of Emelianenko fighting in the UFC sound much more promising. The source said UFC officials have devoted much of their resources to working on a deal to sign the fighter in time for an official announcement during Friday’s media call, as the L.A. Times initially reported. Sources close to M-1, though, continue to state such a deal is “unlikely.”)
^^^^^ this
The announcement will be tomorrow – along with TV deal, Vitor, Tito, and God knows what else.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Melvin Manhoef’s new representation, self-proclaimed fanclub president Leland Roling, will also be in attendance to announce Manhoef’s new contract with the UFC. In the contract, Manhoef will only fight TUF washouts and washed-up old veterans in order to “send them packing”. Manhoef is delighted by the prospect of eventually sending Michael Bisping back to Britain.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
break out the glitter
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL, owned.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ilovethisidea.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to say it...
because i know little to nothing about the guy, but im gonna trust MMAlogic on this one. Partially cuz i want it to be true so badly, and partly because he is always right on these things.
i guess its strange, but i put more stock into a random BE poster than the LA times on this story to be honest.
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by MMArazorback on Jul 29, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And by tomorrow, you of course mean Friday, the day AFTER tomorrow.
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by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If
The the conference call was to announce the sex tape release starring Fedor who would buy it
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by xtremecouture on Jul 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i wouldn't
It would just be a long tape of fedor getting ass fucked by his managment
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 29, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, and I don’t find Finkie the least bit attractive.
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
by ufc4 on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
1 minute to go
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
If Fedor doesn't sign
I will forever root against him. Even when he’s fighting top guys like Jimmy Ambriz, Ray Mercer and Jose Canseco.
Til then I still think he’s Fedorable :)
He’d probably be on the reality show “Fighting Fedor”
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So let’s agree to not comment too much here people
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
I know but it drives me crazy when I am here on a live blog and can’t get a comment in b/c everyone else is beating me to it :-(
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
I could recommend a good typing course for you… :-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Why? Is there any reason to think there will be actual news?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
if UFC was streaing it then it would answer a few ?'s just by doing so...
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
indeed, the nervous fanboy sweat in the air is palpable
"Brock Lesnar is a Bi-Polar Bear" and Kevin Lole called me a "clapping seal"
I make jokes, but here I am
"Brock Lesnar is a Bi-Polar Bear" and Kevin Lole called me a "clapping seal"
Having time to kill on a Wednesday afternoon just means you’re not a comics geek.
Speaking of which – hurry this shit up – I have to pick up New Avengers soon.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I do! But Anna Mercury 2 #2 isn’t on my list! or Detective Comics #855! Or Dark Reign Goblin Legacy One-Shot! Or….
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
You should get an ointment for that
" Man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed but not defeated "
- Hemingway
“what’s the bubble guts?”
“It’s when you nervous and bout to shit on yo’self!”
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Or it could be about how Fedor is being sponsored by Hungry Man Dinners.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I don’t think anything is going to come out of this conference call. It’s going to be the same BS we have heard over and over about the strict contract.
agreed, but i’m sitting at my desk blowing off work all the same
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Nothing interesting comes from this call: -1500
Fedor Announces UFC contract: +3000
….but waiting intensely for updates b/c you can’t resist- priceless.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
It’s probably gonna be about how sad they are for the demise of Affliction and how they’ve signed a 3 fight deal with Dream. The end.
I bet he’s gonna say he’s disappointed by Brock’s comments after the Mir fight.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Then they will ask him about the UFC, Fedor will look at his management…. 2 minutes will pass and he will say " The UFC doesn’t treat fighters like humans."
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you punch him through the phone, please?
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Quote his brother dammit…someone. I want his response
by reciprocal on Jul 29, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good to see all the love for Millen lol
" Man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed but not defeated "
- Hemingway
“Я хочу бороться Бок Lesnar. Я буду есть его.”
-Fedor
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Started -
Jerry Millen – Thank everyone for coming out on short notice. We’d rather be fighting but we’re here instead at this press conference.
He’s introducing everyone on the panel…
Vadim is up next
why do i get the feeling they are finishing a bottle of vodka right now
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
I had a heads up before the conference started.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It really doesn’t matter where you fall on the MMA fan spectrum. One thing is absolutely unanimous, Gary Millen is a total douche.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
We agree
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Vadim – “not only the UFC but all companies.” (it’s hard to understand the translator)
Makes EA Sports Video Game announcement… says Fedor is heading the game.
Fedor agreed to be in the EA game a long time ago. This is nothing new. If the UFC opened negotiations a day or two ago, they were certainly aware of this.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone can read my post above so I can say I told you so.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it possible Dana would just be hearing about this?
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good point
My guess is this EA deal will not affect Fedor’s possibly entry into the UFC, simply because of the demand for him. At least that’s what my optimistic side thinks. The other side thinks Dana is currently burning effigies of Fedor/Vadim.
No, it’s not. They’d have said that if it was. Wait until tomorrow.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
EA gave them the OK to make the announcement today.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
They said…
Big news coming out about the game today!!! Stay tuned!
It made sense on the day of the Fedor press release.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Lovely.
So, the EA deal is done, meaning the UFC will never deal with him, or does it? Ridiculous. All this for a video game announcement? Now he can fight all the best Heavyweights in Japanese MMA, plus a juiced up Barnett – in a video game! WoWoWoW!
EA deal was done awhile ago. The UFC would have to be complete morons to not know he had signed on with EA before the most recent negotiations. I doubt the video game would be a problem.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
$10 says they give him abs
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I guess there’s still Friday. Dana and his laundry list.
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS could be a hint
Think about it. If he was planning on signing or was close to a deal, and if the UFC had a press conference for Friday, then of course they would not announce it today, and step on Dana’s toes. That’s what I’m thinking. Again, that’s my optimism talking.
Then don't have a fucking press conference.
Someone needs to explain the idea of press conference better to M-1. They don’t seem to grasp the concept.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
In fairness to MMALogic …
If this is going to get announced, it will get announced Friday. Even if this thing is already signed, you think BLAF would let them announce it without his shiny dome in the pic?
Friday is D-Day. That said, still doubt we ever see Fedor in the octagon.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I cant wait for the EA game so we cant even play him against the top HWs
by reciprocal on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Are they gonna announce Choi and Zulu too!?!?!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Headline a Video Game?
Nothing sells game like someone that barely anyone has heard of.
This is the USA… we dont’ even know who the soccer stars are right now.
But..but. The NYtimes and Logic said Fedor would sign.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He will
24 more hours, guys – then we’ll know
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Better not be today, I’m all out of lotion.
by Zack Gobie on Jul 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
“Our offer is simple… we have a champion, they have a champion, we offer to have a co-promotion. And we’re ready to invest together and get the profit together”
so they want a dick fight
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fucking stupid! wamma is no more, pride is no more, he is no champion
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Really.
What the fuck is he ostensibly the champion of at this point?
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ice cream eating?
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
Nice! I am sure people are going to blow up after reading that.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I’m going to patiently wait until tomorrow.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is everyone saying tomorrow? You guys mean Friday right? Tomorrow is Thursday.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s some projection on my part. I want Friday to be tomorrow.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL, I think thats pretty much everyone.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Friday will be a great day at work for me :)
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh...
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fucking idiots
Not gonna happen.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If by "invest together"
He means leach money…?
by woomikee on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fedor is a champion of what? WAMMA? LOL Give me a break M-1. You have no bargaining power left. Douches.
I thought he was one of the Master of the Universe.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Wow. Fuck Fedor. Fuck his demands, and fuck his management team, and fuck his heavyweight ranking. That guy doesn’t give a shit about fighting, and he doesn’t give a shit about the fans.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
If he doesn't sign, I completely agree.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I hear he can’t wait to get into strikeforce and fight Brett Rogers. That’ll be epic.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
HMC can't save you now, Fedor - the jig is up
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
^this
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This is total b.s.
They have Fedor. That’s all they have. Period. How does that mean they are on equal negotiating terms? Only Vadim… this f*kin guy is a thug.
1-800-DONTJMP
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Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya tomorrow
If Fedor ducks the UFC, I’m done with him.
Vitor, Tito and a TV deal are more than enough for me.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
FUCK
Two more days, then.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How's this...
An avatar featuring Jemarcus Russell, topless…. eating a hot dog…
An avatar of you spanking a Jonas Brother (you can choose which one) dressed like Hannah Montana…
Lol…
Oh Friday is going to be an interesting day at work
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
As this point, I just can’t have sympathy for Dana White. He’s doing his thing, but christ these commies aren’t budging.
"He hit like a bitch."
To quote Too $hort...
“At this point I really can’t say shit, ain’t dropping no lines but just call you a bitch…BIOTCH!”
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
Coker can’t be that fucking stupid. Fedor will cost him three or four million a fight – and you have to pay the guy he’s fighting, too.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention Fedor is the promotion killer
Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson
So if Fedor is the promotion killer, people want him to go to the UFC? Does that even make sense? I am pretty sure if your promotion depends on one fighter, you will be dying soon enough anyways.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
fedor vs brett rogers
vs werdum
vs overeem
… way to coast out on cans
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
They’re fringe top ten. That’s a can next to Fedor.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone is can next to Fedor. See Anderson Silva as example.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Brock Lesnar.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wow...
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Hey, everything I have been saying has been pretty much on until now.
I don’t know if thats a good thing or bad thing yet.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I changed fucking tires in college.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Changed to what? Fucking hubcaps?
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
by Tim Burke on Jul 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I’d rather Fedor fight you than Brett Rogers.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
she would have problems making the HW weight limit, BWAHAHAHAHA
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
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They should get Lesnar on the line to talk shit to him and tell him that he’s going to mount his horse or something.
by FightingIrish on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
there is nothing else to M-1 but him…. they are broke and jobless without fedor
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny, every time I think of M-1, Vadim stupid face pops into my head.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
face, legs, arms, chest
and belly. definitely the belly.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If Fedor doesn't sign
I am officially off his bandwagon, and I really won’t care to see him fight anymore. He is quickly becoming the butt of all MMA jokes, and that’s no way for a legend to go out. Step up or shut the f*ck up Fedor, and maybe, you know, speak for yourself.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
“M-1 stresses that to do a deal with UFC, they want co-promotion. They think it’s important for MMA to have competition, not UFC dominance.” – http://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith
M-1 is just jealous they have nobody except Fedor and it disgusts me.
Fuck M-1
Fuck Jerry Millen, Finkie, and Fedor if this doesn’t get done.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
-PGA
-ATP
-WWE
-MLL
-PBA
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
“M-1 stresses it has promoted MMA all over the world. Fedor, as the face of M-1, should fight in UFC under the M-1 banner” – http://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith
Fine! Let him wear 100 M-1 logos all over his fucking shirt on the way to the octagon and then on his speedo’s!!! Other than that, FUCK YOU M-1!
Interesting...
UFC made Fedor “very good” offer, M-1 countered.. UFC made counter offer very quietly…
HMMMMM…
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How about we compromise and call it UFC Global?
by Sokonojudo on Jul 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how can M-1 counter offer?
i mean if they could have put on a show wouldnt that have happened already?
stupid M-1…
Countered with co-promotion.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And the UFC probably countered with ’here’s six inches on your shorts and another $250,000’
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
and the UFC countered with a nice bi glass of “go f*ck yourself”.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
they allowed Baby Fedor to get the shit beat out of him by Paul Buentello
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Jul 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I regret that I have but one rec to give to this post.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Affliction made ugly T-shirts
"Brock Lesnar is a Bi-Polar Bear" and Kevin Lole called me a "clapping seal"
Why does the best heavyweight on the planet have to end up with the worst management team in the world?!
by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ugh
M-1 stresses it has promoted MMA all over the world. Fedor, as the face of M-1, should fight in UFC under the M-1 banner
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FEDOR HAS MANY OTHER COMPANIES
to BANKRUPT before coming to the UFC!
M-1 stresses that to do a deal with UFC, they want co-promotion. They think it’s important for MMA to have competition, not UFC dominance.
Oh for fuck's sake
Yet everyone will be on his nuts praising him if he turns out to be right….
How many times can the “if you throw shit up against a wall enough, something will stick” be used in reference to this guy before y’all will start to wake up and realize he is no more in the know than any of you.
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he is.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, he doesn’t say anything that I don’t hear already when he supposedly “leaks” and “teases” people with info. The riding of this dude’s jock is getting kind of sickening.
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This just isn’t accurate.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Its your right to disagree Richard and I don’t fault you for having a different opinion.
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if he turns out to be right…. doesn’t change the fact that “homeboy” is disrespectful to people on here.
I find MMASupremecy’s posts and articles more insightful because he presents the info, not “taunt” you with " i know something you don’t know"
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Supremacy will also spout “hey look I was right for once, here is the link” in every post for days afterwards.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
lol...
I know… but at least he’s not a dick about it. I’ve never seen anyone get attacked like him and yet he remains cool and respectful.
by Gunslinger20 on Jul 30, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re done. (grabs balls) stress this, M-1.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you co-promote and be competition at the same time?
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
by Tim Burke on Jul 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Comment of the century.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Im flying to LA,
I have my guns packed, am I forgetting anything?
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
What are the 5 best fights in M-1 (not counting Fedor)
anyone? anyone? Buller? anyone?
Fuck them
They should be lucky enough if the let Fedor put that shit on his trunks at no charge every fight. These motherfuckers are trying to get rich off of the UFC’s success. M-1 who? Fuck them.
If this how it is going to be, than I think it’s time to close the book on getting Fedor
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
This is going to end hilariously
MichaelDavSmith M-1 Global says it plans to increase the number of MMA shows it promotes. Do they think they can compete with the UFC?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Dana will have never attacked a promotion so hard as he would crush M-1 just out of spite!
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
by MicahW on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Which is exactly why...
M-1 Global will not allow Fedor to be in the UFC.
by ProCannonFodder on Jul 29, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, like he meant that he wanted to compete with the UFC. Jumping to conclusions. They just want more profit.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
FINE LET M-1 put on shows....
….so they can under like everyone else!!!
Does any reporter plan on challenging Vadim? Ya know, ask why he feels they can just leach off the UFC’s success because they have a non-expression chubby HW.
I was actually hoping I could get in on this call for that very reason, but I don’t have the number and I know someone from BE is already on the call.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to ask Vadim if he was in the same position as the UFC with huge revenues, would he actually give legs to a much smaller organization?
Also, I’ve never heard anyone ask Fedor’s thoughts on opponents outside of the UFC since he’s beaten pretty much all of them.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I gotta say...
There hasn’t been anyone like Vadim to make me actually root for Dana white. Ever. I can’t believe I’m actually saying that.
by LeonDaLion on Jul 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hear that GSP’s sister has a lemonade stand and he wants the UFC to let her co-promote with them.
Oh, wait. That would be absurd.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
thats the problem with most reporters they are pussies and dont ask the tought questions that everyone wants to hear.
by JaTinkles on Jul 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think Gross had a pretty good one.
If the deal is good enough for Anderson and GSP, why does Fedor deserve more?
That’s the most valid point to raise.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
“We do want to work with the UFC, but we don’t want to wait, we want to move forward”
“We will only work on co-promotion deals”
Then no Fedor....
Dana will not, and should not, EVER, cave for M-1
They are nothing.
by RipeTide on Jul 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Hard to blame Dana at this point.
And I am far from a Dana fan.
The other side is simply unreasonable.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I only wanna work for 10,000 an hour...
Guess what…I’m unemployed
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
The words of Mike Goldberg saying, “It’s all over!”
by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll put a unit on Brett Rogers as his next opponent.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The journalist on the phone will be doing a crime against MMA if they don’t press these fuckers with good questions about the co-promotion bullshit.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
journalists*
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe M-1 is full of shit, maybe Fedor negotiated on his own
by The Bronzeville Bully on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
If that’s the case, Fedor will be shot in a week by Vadim’s henchmen.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sure he will eventually pop up with his...
“Well well well mother fuc**rs!” quote and how awesome his car and house is anytime soon.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that sucks.
Thanks for the updates, though. Let me know when Finkelstein has a heart attack and dies.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
How do I rec the heart attack?
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not the comment, the heart attack itself!
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FEDOR SPEAKS
Вы подразумеваете, что я должен возвратиться к борьбе с самбо снова?
AHHH!!! I wish someone would just punch these guys in the face!!!
And then run…very quickly
by Captain7 on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shit, get Aleks Emelianenko on the phone, he’ll help us.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I just blew up my Fedor wagon
and am now building an Aleks band and war wagon!
ALEKS FOR TROOF!!!!
I really hope the hep rumors are false and get this guy fighting out here.
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You will have to support him in Korea, where his next fight will take place against the man who beat Fedor in Sambo…=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL…that was quick work. Did someone have that ready just for this instance?
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
I have a bunch stored up for different occasions.
by Sokonojudo on Jul 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha…someone is well prepared.
Good job.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, make one using the Henderson gif, first shot Vadim, flying elbow of justice to gary/jerry Millen.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Vadim – Fedor and I are partners and we share the same interests. Money isn’t everything…. We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit he can fight, but Fedor is fucking ignorant. (In the case that everything we believe to be true is.)
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Too many shots to the head.
Is all that is.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He simply has too much faith; it’s God’s fault.
by timetosaygoodbye on Jul 29, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the whole, but everywhere except Russia…
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jul 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yes they will
You will fade into irrelevance. Strikeforce will not pay you.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation: there are still a handful of promotions we can bleed dry before we have to kneel before the UFC.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be Fedor's last chance w/ Dana
Dana has his “Fedor” now in Brock. Big, Scary, doesn’t speak english, and is already 1000x more known then Femdor
by RipeTide on Jul 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
"Doesn't speak English"
I lawled
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A news conference with no news.
We are through the looking glass here, people. Up is down.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only one way to get Fedor to cave on this m-1 shit.....
he’s hiding from Brock Lesnar!
There it’s been said.
Fedor doesn’t want to sign w/ UFC because he’s afraid of Brock.
Does 1 more domination by Brock Lesnar move him into the #1 ranking?
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jul 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
Depends on who Fedor fights next.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Who could Fedor fight next to keep him in that spot?
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jul 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers, Overeem, Lesnar.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If Lesnar rips through Nog, Carwin, or Velasquez and Fedor defeats one of those three, who holds the top spot?
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jul 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar, hands down. I’m not on the “Fedor #1 Forever” train. lol Chances are, Brock will be number 1 after his next bout. (Of course, if he wins, but I don’t see him losing.)
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers won't be enough.
Overeem or Werdum are the only two who could even come close to helping his ranking. If you’re doing “traditional” style subjective rankings then anything but a dominance won’t even help.
You’d be suprised, the majority of Rankings have been on Fedors nuts for a looooong time…and don’t want to leave. Of course, after this week, that could all change, Fedor isn’t as loved as he was before Affliction folding.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Interested to hear a point in time that someone deserved the number one spot above Fedor at heavyweight.
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By saying rankers were on his nuts I didn’t mean they were undeservingly giving him the rank. I’m saying that his long stay at #1 could influence rankers to keep him there for the simple fact that he is Fedor.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Not touching that one, but Sakurai expressed my feelings for Aoki all over his face…haha
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So people “have been on his nuts” (past tense) because his #1 ranking “could influence rankers to keep him there” (future tense)?
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Let me lose the nuthugging terminology. People have loved Fedor, that appreciation for him could make them stubborn when it comes to giving away that #1 spot to the likes of Brock Lesnar. Should have worded the first version better.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
so...
disappointed. :|
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I look forward to Fedor getting KO’d by Rogers and Overeem.
by steveoc24 on Jul 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Eh, I’ll still be excited to watch Fedor fight.
I really wish a deal could’ve gotten done, though.
by a tommy point on Jul 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I will be too
I can’t wait to see him lose.
Overeem, Rogers, Werdum or whoever fights him please defeat him!
by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We don’t need to – nobody has ever heard of M-1. They’re like the self-licking ice cream cone of UFC competitors: they drive themselves out of business.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor and M1 just did the impossible they made there own fans turn on them haha smart business men they will be bankrupt in two years
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Exactly...
They think this is helping… it’s HURTING THEM.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Howmany fucking promotions does it take to promote one fucking fighter? “Fedor is too powerful for any single promotion! Form VOLTRON!”
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
you've proven to be
a quality poster these last couple days… u and lovingmma
bravo, good sir… bravo.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
so rec'd
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 29, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
FEDOR WANTS TO BANKRUPT
more then one promoion at time from now on….
Yeah
Maybe he’s trying to get into the Guiness book of world records.
Fighting is a thing of the past so he’s moving on to new things. Record setting.
by poundnground on Jul 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news...
Jay Hieron finally signed the dotted line, WILL FIGHT NICK DIAZ. on Aug. 15th.
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For title
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is scared of the Brock. M-1 is scared of the Brock. Brock Smash
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Vadim is scared of Dana
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
It's all a smoke screen
They can’t announce anything today about him signing because that would steal Dana’s thunder. They will announce it on Friday. I hope.
Okay mmalogic…. keep fighting the good fight.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kobayashi FTW
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
Though Its Funny To Watch Everyone's Reaction Go From High To Low...
The negotiations will still be going on until next week and a deal could still be done.
I am pretty sure at some point we will get a “deal is close” or “deal falls apart” exclusive in the next few days, everyone should just wait.
A deal has not been able to get done in the span of 3 years, so it didn’t have much of a chance to get done in just a few days.
this deal will never be done unless fedor removes his lips from sucking on vadim’s tits for breast milk
Well
They weren’t constantly negotiating, so that line is growing old.
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Rush Limbaugh will become a Democrat before Fedor signs with the UFC :(
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- Hemingway
by Hellsing on Jul 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I feel just like Charlie Brown thinking Lucy would hold that fucking football while I kicked it.
I knew I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up even a little.
by Patrick79x on Jul 29, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Since Fedor is a big Russian pride guy, there should be a UFC Moscow where all the opponents come out to “America, Fuck Yeah”, while burning Russian flags, wearing Lenin pics on their crotches, smashing vodka bottles on the ground, and screaming in Russian FUCK YOU COMMIES. That should piss em off enough to fight for free.
Brock needs to be let free on a rant of epic proportions so the media grabs this and it makes fedor look like the weak
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
If the UFC wants to lure Fedor… they’d have to acknowledge he exists on a PPV with Brock coming out to “Eye of the Tiger” and burning Russian flags and disrespecting Russia loudly. I mean, he’d have to make Fedor angry somehow for them to sign this shit… and if you make Fedor angry… I wouldn’t want to be in his fucking way at all. Fuck that!
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
ya but i would bet would be one of few people to not give a shit. i cant see brock fearing no man
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
No, Brock wouldn’t care, but I’m just saying… can you imagine Fedor mad? When the fuck has he ever been mad? Never.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Brock should wipe his ass with the russian flag and kidnap his priest im sure that would do it
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
Hmmm… wiping ass with flag is definitely a good start.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Or quiet, calm = psychopath and
loud, angry = nuclear holocaust
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor was mad
When he saw CC kick Aleks in the head. It’s on Youtube.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhFoQf70198
Loose Translation: "we’ve trained not to circle like that, what is he doing? " I don’t like this, this is not going well. after he gets ko’d by kick he said " unbelievable, keep your fucking hands up and don’t circle that way. "
He also beatdown Naoya Ogawa after Ogawa refused to touch gloves.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My other idea...
revolves around Rocky storyline….
UFC lures Kiril with big money, he fights Lesnar, Lesnar kills him… Fedor must AVENGE!
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, for authenticity and to stay close to the story...
We’d probably have to kill Aleks, which is not an idea I think we want to entertain.
So Don Frye will be headlining?
by P4P is a stupid concept on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hence why I suggested Don Frye.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You can imagine how excited the UFC is to work with M-1 after the success of their last co-promotion with Affliction.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
…and MMA fans just eclipsed Cubs fans as the most fickle people on earth.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 29, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Fagan… you’re crossing the line.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I made this post yesterday. It will happen again, don’t you worry.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone has a limit. Fedor has eclipsed most people’s limits.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor in the UFC or we riot!!!
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
You guys should. The LAPD has been bored lately. They mentioned what a “weak” riot the last one was when the Lakers won the title this year. They are always willing if fans are.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
or better yet….. no one goes and there wont be any chant.
by JaTinkles on Jul 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t imagine there was going to be a great deal of people there anyways…I can think of plenty of better things to do. haha
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know. Don Frye vs. Lawal… while not unbelievable… It is DON FUCKING FRYE
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by Leland Roling on Jul 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Still wouldn’t go watch it live, I’d be too busy waiting in the nearest bar to get drunk with Don Frye.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar Chant Movement?
Hahaha…that would be hilarious. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
im gonna laugh when he loses on some small ass show and nobody cares. if your going to lose lose to a man who is a freak and u can make excuses that he was too big. Fedor and M1 have done a good job of building hype around a iffy fight record. Time is up. Put up or shut up
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
better recognize!
“M-1 Global has been one of the leading Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) organizations in the world for over a decade. International MMA stars who have fought under the M-1 banner have included Fedor Emelianenko, Andrei Arlovski, Aleksander Emelianenko, Keith Jardine, Alistair Overeem, Yushin Okami, Ben Rothwell, Mike Pyle, Melvin Manhoef, Roman Zentsov, Denis Kang, Martin Kampmann, Amar Suloev, and Chalid Arrab, to name a few.”
source: www.m-1global.com
hehehe
A lot of fighters have competed in King of the Cage too. Doesn’t mean they have any importance on fighting.
M-1: The Stand-up Comedy Tour
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If M-1 is so big
why has most of the MMA community never heard of them?
I still think Dana is right to shut down the co-promotion deal, bend a little on a few other things, but why in gods name would anyone think in their right minds that Dana wants anyone riding the coattails of the true world wide known MMA organization
Fink stop smoking weed man, you’re not Nick Diaz.
It CLEARLY states that M-1 has been a leading MMA org for over a decade. Why UFC won’t do a co-promotion with a decade old world leader is beyond my comprehension.
please note the sarcasm
I like the sarcasm
it was a nice touch.
Someone should tell M-1 though, that the UFC has been around a lot longer, and is the worlds most recognized MMA org. Either work with them, or fade out of MMA, it’s only a matter of time.
Lesnar could do his next walk out in a shirt that has the USSR flag and Fedors face blended together with the words ‘Commie puppet’.
That might make Fedor fight.
The UFC is only going after him because thats what the fans wanted…they could give a shit if he signs they just made the attempt more public this time so people cant say they didnt try. UFC is shooting up faster and faster you either get on now or be left behind. Bye Bye Fedor off to irrelevancy you go
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
I think the real question that should have
been asked to Fedor and his puppeteirs is this. How big do you honestly think you are outside of Japan, and do you think anyone other then the serious hardcore fans gives a shit if you sign with any promotion at this point?
Some Pretty Interesting News ...
Sources indicated that Hieron was in talks with both Strikeforce and the Ultimate Fighting Championship that came down to the wire. One of the deciding factors between the two promotions appears to be Hieron having already committed to appearing in the upcoming MMA video game from EA Sports, a challenger to the UFC branded THQ video game "UFC 2009 Undisputed."
It was announced on Wednesday that Fedor Emelianenko – still in talks with the UFC – will don the cover of the EA Sports game.
Hieron isn’t exactly comparable to Fedor…I think bringing the #1 HW in the world is more important than the video game issues.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It just shows that the UFC may actually stick to this whole EA ban stuff, though, I am pretty sure they threw it out the window for Fedor, unless it was part of the UFC deal to cancel his appearance in EA Sports MMA. Either way, it is all very interesting.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, interesting, but I think EA is going to have a rude awakening when they release their game, they won’t get 1/4 of the profit that THQ turned. People bought the UFC game for the simple fact it was UFC…now EA is going to slap Fedor on the cover of their game along with a tribal design and see how it goes. Unless their gameplay outshines THQ’s to an extreme extent…they don’t have shit. But, we’ll see how it goes.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
So , definitinely no Fedor in the UFC?
It seems that Fedor wants to push M1 and that the negociation with the UFC are a failure.
They could even sue Affliction. Will Fedor fight on the M1 card in August? I probably that Fedor will now fight in DREAM in Japan.
The guy who was saying that Fedor will go to the UFC and that Affliction gave Fedor contract to the UFC was apparently wrong.
If Hollywood has taught me anything it’s that them Russians are sneaky bastards
by kanodogg on Jul 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hate to get on my soapbox… but:
Everyone was bearish on this thing but I GAURANTEED FEDOR WOULD BE IN THE UFC.
OK HERE IT GOES:
100% BROCK is FIRST.
95% certain BROCK VERSUS FEDOR will be on UFC 103. AS THE NEW NEW MAIN EVENT
Suck on that bitches
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana has got to be loving that they held this press conference.
With the insistence that at co-promotion take place as the the deal-maker/breaker and everyone realizing that it doesn’t benefit the UFC in any way. Look at all the negative feelings towards Fedor and his management.
This is going to give Dana more power.
by SanDiegoMMA.net on Jul 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
"mmalogic"This is the name I was looking forward.D
I think that he said that Fedor will be in the UFC at 100% and that Afflicition was transferring his contract.
Obviously he is mistaken on that story.
maybe...maybe not...
if Fedor ends up in the UFC in the next week or two…he is right.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and just to be clear...
most of us “in the know” had sources saying it was close to a done deal.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And thats what people are over looking…A LOT of sources are saying the exact opposite than Fedor and Co. So…we’ll see. I still have a bit of hope for the Friday press conference. But at this point, I really don’t care.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Jul 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He suggested that it would be done in the time leading up to Friday’s press conference. So he has 2 days left.
again...
as of yesterday there were a LOT of people with sources (I had some too) saying this was more or less done
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get why people think that still isn’t the case.
Would anyone really put it past Dana, Zuffa, even M1 to have them make this announcement today just to build up more hype for Friday?
To built the hype?
It would be a little extrem no? The UFC does not treat Fedor as the best fighter in the world, we want M1 copromotion, fedor part of M1 , no UFC domination etc… etc….
Why would they say that?
Why did everyone say the UFC didn’t buy Pride up until the second it was announced? Why did Dana say Randy wasn’t signed the day before it was announced?
Why did Jerry Jones say all offseason that he wasn’t going to cut TO?
by Phildo on Jul 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
when did I say it would be done in time for the conference??? do you fucking read?
I guaranteed his next fight is in the UFC… nothing has changed.
by mmalogic on Jul 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
How can you guarantee this?
Have you read everything?
EA cover, co promotion, not treating Fedor as the best fighter, no UFC domination, necogiation with other, they don’t want to wait etc…
All his pointing that he will not be in UFC
What they say in public isn’t necessarily what they are saying at the negotiating table.
by Phildo on Jul 29, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok but how the UFC will react
This is almost a slap for them this conference and I don’t see someone like Wgite accepting this. I am waiting for the F-bombs and the crazy russians speechs.
This is worse than anything Tito has said over the last year or what Randy said when he was “resigned?”
by Phildo on Jul 29, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec’d
When there is a ton of money at stake, people lie during negotiations to gain an advantage. I don’t know why this is so hard to for people to understand. Do people think Dana publicly says Fedor is not top 10 p4p or Tito says he’ll never sign with the UFC or $kala says EliteXC is healthy because that’s what they really believe? Do they think that Russians are more honest than America’s? If you guys think these Russians are crazy, try doing business with the Chinese.
Let's not forget
It is in their best interest to play hard-to-get, even if they are gotten. They lose bargaining leverage if they can no longer pretend to be courting other interests.
I’d still like to see what exactly mmalogic said so that the proper “ha-has” or kudos can be distributed when the reckoning comes.
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Close?
The UFC was ready to co promote ? I find hard to believe that.
Or do you thaink that M1 is trying to hard ball and pressure the UFC for more money? UFC domination ect… seems harsh.
And Fedor on the cover or EA game is not that a deal breaker?
Well, Randy is supposed to be in the game as well.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That was decided a long time ago
I don’t think they’re actually going to let him kill me... And if he does kills me, book sales will really go up. Boom…win-win, bitch.- Forrest Griffin on Anderson Silva
Just saying, there are exceptions already.
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by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Questions:
If M1 is a global promoter why did they need Affliction?
If M1 is global why do they need any promoter?
Is Fedor a robot or has he been brain washed?
What happens when Don Frye/Abbot/Kimo/Campbell Soup can KOs Fedor?
With WAMMAs belt now on Ebay, what is Fedor champion of?
Is it possible that today Josh is more beloved than Fedor?
And last:
Will Dana White fly in with his UFC cape and save Fedor from certain doom?
Stay tuned.
by Riney on Jul 29, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not sure if this has been posted on BE or not. But check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xIqksOgww&feature=related
It’s called “Dana negotiates for Fedor.” Amusing stuff.
Next Year
Fedor will sign with the UFC. Affliction took a while to go belly up. I think 6 months to a year is ample time for M-1 to bleed its money dry.
Huge fan of Fedor but I’m seriously starting to lose respect for him. He needs to fight the best especially given his age. Bret Rogers, Alister Overeem and Werdum are not the best opponents for him, he needs to go to the UFC.
Even though the UFC can be corporate wankers, I’m starting to believe that they are the good guys in this scenario.
Who the hell do M1 think they are, the UFC will not co-promote shit with them, are they out of their minds? The biggest MMA organisation in the world is going to start to do co-promotions now with every dick and harry just to sign Fedor? That’s insane, and never going to happen.
And if Fedor has half a brain he will realise that M-1 want the best for them and not for Fedor!
“Fedor had a Vadim up his ass, I pulled that sumbutch out and beat him over the head with it!”
“WOOOOOOO!”
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by iiowyn on Jul 29, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Well that was a worthless press conference. So did they actually go through all that trouble to announce nothing at all and avoid all questions?
If you read my post above, I mentioned before the conference started that this would be for the EA Sports game and M-1 August 28th show. No deal was finalized yet with the UFC, so they couldn’t announce that, even if it was done since UFC’s announcement will be on Friday.
P.S. Read my new fan post..
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by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said announce nothing at all and avoid all questions. Really at this point no one cares about him being in the EA game, that’s old news that is really irrelevant in terms of all the real news of the last week. It wasn’t even a EA press conference, what was the point?
As far as the M-1 event, why did they make this a big deal about Fedor answering questions if they were going to talk about something completely different? You think anyone would of been involved with a press conference call to talk about a M-1 event? The whole thing was a big boondoggle.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Jul 29, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
This thread has done it!
This thread has killed the “REC”. Serious blow to the color green. The “REC” has no more legitimacy and is not relevant any longer on this site if it ever did.
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by Warhand on Jul 29, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
And look! Your lame comment gor rec’d to prove it!
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there was a thread by coleko that was nothing but green – you must of missed that one
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
With the UFC snapping up all Afflictions other spare HWs, the signing of Cro-cop, Josh’s bust and Fedor’s destruction of Sylvia and AA, his list of potential opponents has shrunk a lot… as far as I can see the list contains Werdum, Overeem, Rogers and Monson, and thats about it.
Roger Gracie (good prospect), Buentello, Arlovski (if he gets his head right), Antonio Silva (license re-instated), etc.
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by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and for a fighter completely apathetic about his legacy or fan appreciation this is a perfectly acceptable list. so sad.
why should people care about that?
I hate to break it to you guys, but for most professional athletes, it’s all about the money, why should Fedor be held to some other standard?
because he's not
“most professional athletes”
He’s been a hero to many for a long time, and if he is after a payday at the expense of his popularity and fans, it doesn’t make it any less disgusting. Most sports fans don’t look up to the Chad Ocho Cincos and other “hold out” cases. Take Brett Favre for example, he was one of the most beloved sports figures of all time. After he was asked to take a seat, he started acting stupid and selfish and he’s taken a severe PR hit for it.
Roger Gracie? I loled.
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by J. B. Maddox on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I love getting the a giant thread like this well after the fact and trying to make sense of it.
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
yeeeeaaahh
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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