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B.J. Penn Trying Not to Overtrain for Kenny Florian at UFC 101

 
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After the (St. Pierre) fight, if I could have said, well, what mistakes did I make? I believe I trained too long. I started training five months for the fight because I was just so pumped about it; it was my dream fight, and maybe burned myself out a little bit.

Marv is the best I’ve ever seen and it’s good to have that kind of knowledge around. He works your balance and explosion, and your speed and your power. I think later on down the road, people are going to look back and think, ‘that Marv, he really knew what he was doing.

You’ll find out on Aug. 8 what BJ Penn is all about

--BJ Penn talking to MMAWeekly about how his trainer, Marv Marinovich is helping him not to overtrain this time around.

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I was just about to post this…B**** haha

by SouthAlaBamaRampage on Jul 28, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank god he’s not overtraining, I was really concerned.

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think he’ll find a way to not overtrain.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 28, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought he over-trained for all his fights. He’s always injured and getting surgery. God Bless him for recognizing his biggest flaw.

Spinning out solid gold, like Rumpelstiltskin.

by Heenan on Jul 28, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

smells

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

by lovingmma25 on Jul 28, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

like

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

by lovingmma25 on Jul 28, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarcasm

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

by lovingmma25 on Jul 28, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, his fighting schedule is so aggressive and ambitious, he never has time to fully heal inbetween bouts.

I’m not sure how he finds time to eat chips inbetween corn-dogs.

Spinning out solid gold, like Rumpelstiltskin.

by Heenan on Jul 28, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

bj penn

makes me Laf

Buddey System

by Amigop on Jul 28, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I just want to hear him thank GSP for letting him know what he needs to work on

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

by lovingmma25 on Jul 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Earlier I was very worried for BJ… I thought if ever there was a time at 155 to take him out it would be now. I used to make fun saying he spars with his gardeners – he’s doing a world class camp for this fight.

by mmalogic on Jul 28, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I too was feelin the Kenflo upset at first...

but BJ has brought in a who’s who of badassery to train with.

Iv never been a BJ fan so i havnt followed his career super close, but hasnt not having the propper training partners (along with poor cardio, denial, excuses, and lazyness) been one of his weaknesses?

Kenny’s kickboxing is dangerous, but BJ’s hands are so fast and he hits so hard. I think he’ll catch Kenflo, and kill the student… which doesnt sound as cool as killing the master, but hey.

A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.

by MMArazorback on Jul 29, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

The long national nightmare is over

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jul 28, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s time to kill the master!!

Seriously though, I’m sick of Penn having an excuse for EVERYTHING..

by sadface on Jul 28, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Marv Marinovich, father of ‘Robo QB’ is a strength & conditioning legend. If BJ is truly following his ways, he will destroy Kenflo.

by steak_knife on Jul 28, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Isnt he

the one whos son played for the Raiders? I think I heard he had never had fast food till he got to the NFL or something crazy

by xbuckeyex05 on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

correct. Todd Marinovich.

by steak_knife on Jul 29, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

"what mistakes did I make?"

ooo, oo, pick me I know, it was all that rock running that you did, it overworked your cardio.

by proflex on Jul 28, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe in B.J. Penn and absolutely believe that he has the right mind set going into this fight to take to and finish Kenny Florian.

by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Hawaiian? :)

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, nah i just live in the same town as him in Hilo, and no matter what he does or say just continue to support him. (nuthugger maybe? lol)

by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yah living in a tropical paradise must be nice.

I’m a GSP testicle embracer. I say the only difference between GSP and BJ nuthuggers is that GSP nuthuggers are frozen 6 months a year.

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I couldn’t imagine living with snow surrounded all over you, and being cold majority of the year.

by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being locked indoors for 6 months a year is the reason Canada produces so many great comedians.

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, and especially why your athletes are so well trained and condition, cause you don’t have distractions like the beach and other stuff…. :p

by bigislandboi808 on Jul 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Its -34 outside… what do you want to do today Georges?”

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being locked indoors for 6 months a year is the reason Canada produces so many great comedians serial killers.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jul 29, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROFLMAO

Perfect. Thank you.

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by funnytiger on Jul 29, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also GSP is better.

I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.

by MonkeyCHops on Jul 29, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there is that.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 rounds and making them quit.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

^ this

A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.

by MMArazorback on Jul 29, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d use that a a last resort if I were you as well, given your track record of predicting GSP losses.

by Hardcharger on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am doubtful that over-training is the reason why BJ gassed in the first round against GSP. Even though this may seem like a strange indicator, the best that I have seen BJ is ALWAYS when he has abs like when he fought Pulver, Stevenson and Sherk.

by chrisbboy82 on Jul 29, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Those three fights have something in common… i think…?

by sadface on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn’t gas because he wasn’t in shape. Carrying a man 20lbs more tires you out. It’s simple.

Overtraining is just as bad as undertraining.

by gunranger on Jul 29, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Penn is the MySpace whore of MMA.

by goodbones on Jul 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Post Failed!!!

There is no mentioning of Fedor signing w/ the UFC at all in this post…. at this juncture… this is an EPIC FAIL!! :)

by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Fedor was just there because BJ promised him pancakes.

Keep firing Assholes!

Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.

by Ubernoober on Jul 29, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That explains the look of disappointment on Fedor’s face in the pic of him on that huge discussion of his signing…. that or someone killed his puppy.

by Gunslinger20 on Jul 29, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I WANT BJ'S BELT!!!!!

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Sup with Scott Steiners dad on the far right of the pic? lol

GSP: I pulled my groin.

Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!

by xFenixKnightx on Jul 29, 2009 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to see BJ jump up to LHW and fight Machida again.

by Bandaka on Jul 29, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure Machida feels the same way.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 29, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Machida came in to train with BJ

Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson

by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't be surprised

it seems BJ has decided training with everyone is a good training regimen

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by funnytiger on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least hanging out with everyone a bit.

I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.

by MonkeyCHops on Jul 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

His doing that the first time is why Machida is the linear UFC welterweight and lightweight champ.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 29, 2009 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

me 2

Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson

by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

deigo is a beast.

even if penn gets past florian, he will get mauled by deigo sanchez, penn’s puny jabs are no match to deigo’s dynamic and pin point striking, he will put on a worse beating on penn than gsp, i dont get all the hype with this guy, he held two belts in the ufc at a time when ufc was up and coming, they didnt have all the talent, even guys like gsp and penn were students of the game, gsp have evolved because he is humble and ready to learn from anybody, penn’s ego is the size of eifel tower, he only poses with these top fighters in his videos only to showboat, i doubt he actually trains with them. mma is evolving so fast that his flexibility on the ground and stand up cant hold up against a talented well rounded fighter, like frank mir said you cant just rely on your gifted skills anymore to compete with top tier fighters.

by realblood33 on Jul 29, 2009 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

4.

Diego has never fought someone as good as Penn.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You, Sir, are correct.

I may think BJ is a lazy cry baby, but he’s levels above any of Sanchez’s previous competition.

"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko

by Damon O. on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Diego is impossible to finish, and keeps a pace that is only rivaled by Clay Guida. Penn cannot keep such a pace in a multi-dimensional 5 round fight. Diego will wear Penn out.

by Hardcharger on Jul 29, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sherk?

Bigger and stronger than Diego. Didn’t work out so well for him.

by Riney on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that was an odd Sherk outing b/c I just knew he would go for takedowns relentlessly I didn’t expect him to stand and bang with BJ

Yes, time flies. And where did it leave you? Old too soon...smart too late. - Mike Tyson

by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sherk may have bigger muscles, but is shorter, with a shorter reach, and fought a one dimensional fight.

There’s little comparison between Sherk’s style and Diego’s. And Sherk lasted 3 full rounds fighting a boxing match.

by Hardcharger on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sherk has T-Rex arms and tried to box

That’s why he lost, but Diego doesn’t have anything for B.J..

"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko

by Damon O. on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

deigo is losing his power by cutting weight ? is that suppose to be a joke ?? do you even follow mma that closely mate !!!!! he was in the most action packed event in ufc this year, period. i still make more sense than you did, grammar or no grammar. im not trying to flame anybody, its just my opinion, you dont have to agree with it, nor are you obligated to put me down like that.

by realblood33 on Jul 29, 2009 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

When you lose weight – from 170 to 155 as he fights at now – and when you are as tall as he is, you can only cut so much fat before you lose some muscle. Ask Wanderlei about the cut for the Franklin fight. Or Couture when he had to cut to LHW. Or Coleman for the fight against Bonnar.

Action packed or no, that has nothing to do with his punching power.

No one said you were flaming, he said a bunch of counterpoints to your opinion – pretty much all of which I agree with.

He wasn’t putting you down, he was telling you that you should use proper grammar – no caps, run on sentences

by Cory Braiterman on Jul 29, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading comprehension is also a good thing!
im not trying to flame anybody, its just my opinion,

I don’t know realblood33 from a hole in the ground, but he clearly stated that HE was not trying to flame anybody. Not that he thought he was being flamed himself.

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by funnytiger on Jul 29, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

screw you!

it was before my morning coffee… lol

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by funnytiger on Jul 29, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

on a side note i still think penn defeated sherk, because sherk was dumb enough to stand up, and not use his wrestling and GnP, otherwise the outcome would have been very different, people like you and joe rogan try to make penn look like this larger than life legend of the sport, when he is clearly not, you have to have solid competition on a consistent basis to be considered a top tier fighter, say that about machida, silva, fedor and i wont argue then, but penn hasnt been in wars like those guys have. also his bjj is not going to work when the guy on top knows how to defend, like brock did with mir. also guida and stevenson are rough fighters with great chin, they dont ask ref to stop the fight right when they are about to get their ass handed to themselves. also franklin is not a brawler like wandy, he had an intelligent game plan, and didnt give any openings, a clean shot from wandy would have dropped him, if you dont think deigo has punching power go see his fight with guida again. feel free to go over penn/ sherk too, those jabs are almost laughable. they didnt to any damage to sherk, it was the steroids that got to his head.

by realblood33 on Jul 29, 2009 3:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice.

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by Eugene Schelfaut on Jul 29, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

wonder if youll be in your senses to hit the reply button, after you see penn lose, either to florian or sanchez. you know its gonna happen, its inevitable.

by realblood33 on Jul 29, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

translation:

“when BJ loses, you’ll feel so bad, you won’t be able to hit the reply button!”

[oh he is so owned right now! …heehee! i so rock at comebacks..]

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude chill out...

Bj Penn is a great fighter, and no matter how hard you try to dispute it, you can’t… Bj has been considered one of the best LW’s on the planet for years…. Your silly argument isn’t even close to disputing that.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bj Penn is a great fighter, and no matter how hard you try to dispute it, you can’t… Bj has been considered one of the best LW’s on the planet for years

there was a time when that was true, lately he hasnt done anything to prove that, fight against sherk was a joke, and stevenson got stopped prematurely because of the cut, and gsp mopped the floor with him, , and for your argument penn has never fought anyone like sanchez and florian either. anything can happen in mma. wonder if any of you penn lovers are going to be blogging post ufc 101, its going to be the celebration bitchezz.

by realblood33 on Jul 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Marv Marinovic trained any other fighters?

From what I know, S&C can be tailored to different sporting needs, and one sport does not necessarily translate to another.

Just wondering if he has trained any other fighters? Why is he regarded as such a legend?

'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 29, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/ufc-101-call-notes-penn-florian-griffin-silva-18781

On Tuesday, Florian acknowledged that he had sent Weintraub a text about greasing. However, Florian said the fighter he was speaking about was Roger Huerta, not GSP: "It had nothing to do with Georges."

Now Kenny is the liar?

by Nick Thomas on Jul 29, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

man i don't know..

why would he send BJ’s camp that Roger Huerta greased?

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

what a twist!

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless... the text went something like this:

“Hey watch out for GSP, i fought with Huerta and he greased that time.. His camp might do the same thing again..”

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 29, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, the same Roger Huerta

that trains some times at Greg Jackson’s with GSP? interesting. lol.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Jul 29, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone get realblood33 a fanpost, NOW!

BOOSH

by Farthammer on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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