Kimbo Slice, Roy Nelson and Wes Sims: Good Guys and Bad Guys on TUF 10
by Nate Wilcox on Jul 27, 2009 3:31 PM EDT
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For the first time since the lightweights of season five, I'm really looking forward to the next season of The Ultimate Fighter. Part of it is the roster of fighters -- I can't help being intrigued by Kimbo Slice, but I'm more interested in the mix of established veterans and up and coming talent they've put together. I must admit the prospect of seeing several former pro and college football players ads to the excitement.
Another factor is the resurgence of the UFC heavyweight division. With the rise of Brock Lesnar and the crop of new talent coming up in his wake -- Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, Junior dos Santos -- the UFC heavies are compelling for the first time in years. The fact that Randy Couture and Frank Mir are enjoying mid-career renaissances doesn't hurt either. Neither does the presence of Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Mirko Cro Cop to represent the PRIDE flag. Sure Fedor is still out there unsigned, but every passing day makes it more clear that the future of the heavyweight division will happen in the UFC.
The two established veterans on the show couldn't be a clearer contrast. In this corner, wearing a black hat and sneering at the crowd, we've got Wes Sims:
"I kind of enjoy being the bad guy," Sims said. "If you go out there and you don't do anything, people aren't going to care, and you're not going to get paid.
"There's plenty of Randy Coutures in the business now, plenty of good guys. What this sport needs is a few villains."
"There's nothing worse than eliminating somebody and then having them around in your hair bugging you," he said. "It's mentally draining there. You have no one to talk to. No phone; no television. But I loved it. It didn't bother me."
"I went in there and messed with a lot of people," he said.
In the other corner wearing an aw shucks smile and rubbing his big Buddha belly, we've got Roy Nelson talking to Ariel Helwani:
Was there some humble pie involved in coming onto TUF, you're one of the most experienced fighters to ever come on the show?
"I'm a humble guy. Sure I'd rather have played in the NFL for a couple years like some of these guys and made a few million dollars.(Asked about Kimbo Slice)
"Kimbo's a fantastic guy, I learned a lot from him. He's been in the fight business a long time and I think he'll be in the business for a long time to come."
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that is a very apt concern
but there could also be some thunderous knock outs!
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TUF 10
Wes Sims must fight Kimbo. MUST.
Was there some humble pie involved in [Roy Nelson] coming onto TUF
Not the only pie involved with Roy Nelson, that’s for sure.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
Ba dum bum! He'll be here all week folks don't forget to tip your waitress!
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 27, 2009 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It sounds like
Wes is almost giving it away that he got eliminated early, but enjoyed hanging around to annoy people.
I don’t think anyone would be stunned to learn that Wes Sims, awesome though he may be, does not make it to the finals.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
I actually read that quote the other way — he said there’s nothing worse than eliminating someone and then having them around bugging you, but it didn’t bother him (like it didn’t bother him to have somebody he eliminated in there bugging him). I figured he was hinting that he eliminated at least somebody.
This season can’t come fast enough, imo. Looking forward to it.
I know there are a lot of trends in mma, but did I miss a Judo Chop on the advantages of a beer gut?
spoiler
I hear Wes Sims gassed out walking up to the stairs of the TUF house….
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
I gotta say, Roy Nelson speaking so well about Kimbo makes me think that Kimbo really is a decent guy. Roy Nelson dosen’t seem like the kinda guy who’s gonna bullshit an interview just to not say something bad about a guy…if he didn’t like Kimbo, I think we’d know. haha
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
All indications are that away from the badass-brawler persona he created to hype his fights, Kimbo’s good people.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 27, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
All indications are that away from the badass-brawler personaheGary Shaw created to hype his fights, Kimbo’s good people.
Fixed
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
Well, he did have that persona from his boatyard days.
boof!
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
I just noticed...
That “Dave and Busters” is the sponsor on the mat. Have they been a sponsor for awhile now?
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
How Burger King missed sponsoring the Roy Nelson season is beyond me.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
true
but dave and busters has plenty of food AND SKEE-BALL. perfect for guys like roy and kimbo. ;)
Ok, now I really want the coaches challenge to be SKEE-BALL.
Failing that, a best of seven series of Air Hockey.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Jul 27, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone accuse Kimbo of being a bad guy? I don’t think anyone has.
The resentment towards him is because he was getting promoted as the baddest man in the world to the public, while it was obvious to anyone who knew the sport that he was vastly overrated.
Same reason people hate Limp Bizkit or Britney Spears. Even if they are nice people, its frustrating to know that there are thousands of musicians who are better than them in every single way, but the stars just never align.
don't make me get all
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!! on you.
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by Nate Wilcox on Jul 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Does anyone accuse Kimbo of being a bad guy? I don’t think anyone has.
The resentment towards him is because he was getting promoted as the baddest man in the world to the public, while it was obvious to anyone who knew the sport that he was vastly overrated."
You are beginning his history with EXC and bypassing the years where he actually built his fame as a street fighter.
I don’t believe it’s necessary to expound further upon the stereotypes associated with being such a character.
Also, I’m not too sure those comparisons make any sense.
Matt Serra said Kimbo wouldnt take a picture with a fan outside of a hotel and that he thought it was a dick move. He went on to say that Kimbo was excited to meet him and was very nice to him, just not the fan. (I might have video of this, it was @ his wizardworld Q and A session.
by CliChe Guevara on Jul 27, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait for this season.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t wait to see a bunch of guys eating organic chicken breast with brown rice and vegetables while Roy Nelson orders in Dominos and drinks Bud Light.
Heavyweights?
Do any of them really have to diet like that?
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
Exhibit A:
Brock Lesnar. Dude walks around at 280. Yeah, he has to cut. I’m betting he’s not eating Dominos the week before a fight.
"We're not the other teams' farm system." - Andy MacPhail
After Sims stomping Mir's face into hamburger
I didn’t really expect him to be the nice guy, as enjoyable as that was.
“There’s plenty of Randy Coutures in the business now, plenty of good guys. What this sport needs is a few villains.”
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, and?
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
Brock Lesnar.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 27, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Does anyone else think Helwani is a terrible interviewer?
He’s much better at the round table with Mike Straka, but terrible as a stand up guy. Talk about ebb and flow. This guy’s got no flow. I’d even throw my hat in the ring to give this a shot.
It’s my belief that when your an interviewer you should be trying to work the subject to speak as much as you can not break up the direction of the conversation for a new one.
There was only one interview with him that I thought was great
And really that was all on Andrei.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Let's hope the coach fight lives up to this
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 28, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions
That pic is awesome.
You can still see the ripples on his face.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
and Rampage
telling Bisping that he bet not get knocked out
"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008
Something tells me...
Kimbo loses early on… Im not so sure he’d be so humble if he’d had a ton of success on the show. He hasnt been shy in the past when it comes to talking noise.
Plus, he just seems so small compared to some of the Heavy’s.
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
He's better off in the heavyweight division
His last match against a lighter fighter didn’t end well
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