Why Fedor will go to StrikeForce
If you're like me then you're probably wondering what Fedor is going to do next now that Affliction went down.However , if you're mature enough to just wait and see how things fold without trying to guess what will happen then you can stop reading (and seriously , what are you going in the mma community anyway this is what we like to do..).
I am going to completely rule out that Fedor will fight in Japan . Yes , the Japanese fans know him and some of them like him (Fedor was actually much less liked than Cro Cop and possibly even Barnett and Nogueira) , but we all sense that in the last phase of his career Fedor and his management are trying to break into the american market which is now the biggest in the world .
Therefore , only two options remains - the UFC and StrikeForce .
What hasn't been said already about Fedor fighting in the UFC - how many tears were shed and angry words written? Some like to blame Dana White and his arrogant and disrespectful way of negotiating with a fighter who should get the respect of a handful of champions . Others would blame Fedor's management and their perpetual demand for co-promotion . I don't think there are 'good guys' and 'bad guys' in this story , just people trying to promote their interests the best they can . Fedor is tied to M-1 by ways of friendship (to longtime friend and business associate Vadim Finkelschtein) and by financial interests . I don't know the exact details but I can only guess that Fedor has some shares in M-1 and probably sees his future in M-1 as a promoter when he finally retires . Therefore one can conclude that Fedor's relationship with M-1 is very important to him and of course to M-1 who other than Mousasi don't own any star-caliber fighters . Fedor , almost entirely by himself made M-1's name if not famous then at least semi-known in the mma world . That is why the co-promotion demand is perpetual and one can esaily understand why M-1 insists on it - without Fedor they will go many steps back as a promotion . The only thing that can make M-1 (and Fedor) yield is serious , serious money - which I doubt the UFC will be willing to pay .
Another important factor we need to keep in mind is that in the UFC Fedor will be 'unprotected' - he may lose to Brock , and then get another tough fight (Shane Carwin for example) and lose that one too - and in the harsh reality of mma fighting he's now 'washed up' (much like what happened to Cro Cop). After milking the money on the Brock-Fedor fight , the UFC will just use Fedor as they see fit . In M-1 however , Fedor will be protected - case he loses a fight rest assured he will get an easy opponent after the loss. This is very critical for a fighter's market value and career.
So why StrikeForce ? Rumors have it that StrikeForce offers Fedor between 500-700 a fight and complete freedom of co-promotion and fighting anywhere he wants . If the rumors are true StrikeForce is very serious and the initial money offer can only climb and climb in negotiatons . The UFC will never want to co-promote for obvious reasons , and in terms of compensating M-1 they will be willing to go only that far. Dana will probably try to give StrikeForce a fight but will eventually "lose" because of the co-promotion issue. And lets keep in mind that Fedor still has at least two more years of fighting (if he wants it) . He can always re-negotiate with the UFC , only that then probably as the StrikeForce champion and much more familiar to american audience . We might see Fedor ending his career in the UFC when he exhausted all other options and when M-1 knows they can bank the final and best payday out of him . But until then - we might enjoy watching Fedor fighting Overeem , Werdum or Rogers on american T.V ...not that bad in my humble opinion.
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I am going to completely rule out that Fedor will fight in Japan . Yes , the Japanese fans know him and some of them like him (Fedor was actually much less liked than Cro Cop and possibly even Barnett and Nogueira) , but we all sense that in the last phase of his career Fedor and his management are trying to break into the american market which is now the biggest in the world .
not entirely true.. you can’t “completely rule out” japan just cause their management wants to break into the american market.
Fedor is not going to Strikeforce. There are no money matchups for him there, and more importantly, Scott Coker is a smart enough promoter to realize that he cannot afford Fedor and that he should not allow a co-promotion with the likes of M-1. After all, M-1 has done wonders for Monte Cox and Tom Atencio in the past.
No sir, Fedor won’t be signing with Strikeforce.
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by Brett Jones on Jul 27, 2009 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not only can he not afford Fedor
You gotta pay the guy Fedor fights, too. Coker is smarter than this.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The freedom thing is not what the issue is.
The only issue is money. M1 and Fedor want all the freedom stuff so that they can jump at a big money offer if one comes up. Finkie doesn’t think that Fedor is worth 500k-700k a fight, and Coker doesn’t have the cash reserves to offer that has reported money and then throw all the extra shit that Affliction did at them, so I doubt 500-700k a fight total is enough to satisfy the Fink, he can definitely get more than that from Zuffa.
As for the copromtion with Strikeforce, I’m not sure why everyone is so sure they’d just do that. They copromoted with elite because Frank Shamrock screwed them by signing with elite while under contract with Strikeforce. It was part of a settlement, and was very much in Strikeforce’s favor because they got some of their shows onto showtime and probably didn’t have to pay much production costs. Then they copromoted with Affliction, that was pretty much Arlovski fighting on the card, Affliction getting to run a bunch of ads and promos during the card. It looked and seemed like they were paid a pretty penny to do it also.
What does all of that mean? Strikeforce has a history of copromotion, but only when things are extremely in their favor, and I don’t really see what M1 brings to the table that could help them. They have an arena, they have no problem selling it out. They have a better TV deal than M1. Except for Fedor, they have a better fighter roster than M1. Why would Coker copromote with M1? Affliction did it because they thought they were going to get Randy/Fedor, they thought that was their winning lotto ticket. There’s nothing like that for Strikeforce right now. There’s no reason for them to do it.
How would that be any different
than M-1 letting Fedor fight for Strikeforce, with M-1 running several advertisements?
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by ElliotMatheny on Jul 27, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Fink loves having the freedom to shop E-Fed to the highest bidder …. but he loves money more.
I just don’t see him taking $500K per fight when he could be making five or six times that amount in the UFC with a cut of the PPV. However, if FEG steps up and offers him a couple million guaranteed for a one-night only appearance NYE Dynamite, I could see him jumping at that.
It must be nice for Fedor to have such a honest and pure manager as Fink, who is willing to leave millions of dollars on the table and risk tens of millions in future earnings. I bet Fink is looking Fedor in the eye right now and saying “Don’t worry Big F, M1 and I don’t need the 3 million plus paydays, let’s go fight Brett Rogers for half a mil. A loss might mean we never earn close to what we’ve been getting again, but that doesn’t matter. You cant put a price tag on our happiness or friendship. Besides, M1 is really kicking ass right now, we don’t need you to subsidize it. This fight money is nothing compared to the profits M1 is putting into your bank account.”
by Jahbulon on Jul 27, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Most are forgetting...
Coker and Strikeforce might not have the money, but that doesn’t stop SHOWTIME from butting their heads into the negotiations and shaking money at Fedor to headline a CBS card. It’s always a possibility that SHOWTIME come in and help out.
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Why exactly would CBS/Showtime do this?
They have to be smart enough to realize that Fedor, while a great fighter, is not a draw in North America. CBS has already proven they aren’t too concerned with the integrity of the sport. They want ratings and the idea that Fedor = ratings is ludicrous. Some anonymous Russian dude, no matter how talented, is not going to bring them the numbers they want.
They would be better off paying John Cena or some other quasi-celebrity to make the switch to MMA and promote the hell out of him.
Putting Fedor on a CBS card would pretty much be taken by Dana as a sign of war, Coker has done alot of good for himself by not being an enemy of the UFC I doubt he’s stupid enough to chance that for one fighter.
Why is putting Andrei Arlovski on a fight ok but putting Fedor isn’t ? Andrei is arguably as big as a draw as Fedor is . StrikeForce would be crazy not to take Fedor at a reasonable price , and besides Fedor’s management already said they have an offer from StrikeForce .
I still stand by my gamble
We need to wait a few more days but if the rumors of the UFC offer were true (30 mil , 6 fights) and Fedor still doesn’t go then I’m POSITIVE he’ll go to StrikeForce .
A bit of a correction.
Fedor could easily sign with Strikeforce and DREAM, and combined what he gets from both promotions in terms of flexibility and guaranteed money is probably a much better option for Fedor and M-1.
P.S. I don’t think your prediction is a gamble at all.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions

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