Full Listing of Rumored Potential Fedor Opponents for Affliction: Trilogy
by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT
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With more and more names being thrown out in the Fedor lottery after Josh Barnett's positive steroid test we're fast approaching California Gubernatorial Recall levels of hilarity.
Here is a rundown of every name that has been thrown out and their status:
Vitor Belfort - Originally scheduled to fight Jorge Santiago at 185 pounds. Vitor has accepted the fight in principle but it has not been warmly received by a large number of fans. At the time of this writing Sherdog.com has up a poll asking if Vitor is a suitable replacement with 73% of the voters saying no. Fedor's management has cited this poll as a reason the fight is not appealing.
Jeff Monson - Jeff has talked in the past about it being his destiny to defeat Fedor. He has expressed extreme interest in taking the fight, even on late notice. Monson's agent confirms:
"This is the fight he has always wanted." said Monson’s agent, Jessy Evans. ... "Now it up to Tom and the Affliction guys to make their minds up to see if they want to make history."
Brett Rogers - "The Grim" appears to be the prefered option for Fedor and his management. It didn't ever seem like a strong possibility given that Rogers is a potential future star with an undefeated record and would have roughly one week to train for the fight. Strikeforce has made it clear that Rogers would not be fighting on August 1.
Fabricio Werdum - Along with Monson, Werdum was considered the best "sporting option" by many fans...however, like Rogers, Strikeforce stated that this was a no-go. One recent update says that Affliction is still not taking negotiating with Strikeforce for either fighter (Rogers/Werdum) off the table.
Tito Ortiz - Never was a serious possibility but his name picked up some steam with fans pointing out his drawing power. He was only recently cleared by a doctor to start training and has said that he would not be taking a fight with Fedor on short notice.
Tank Abbott - Dave Meltzer gives the MMA Universe nightmares with the following:
Tank Abbott wants to be in play although I wonder if Affliction would want to go in that direction. He’ll mean more for ticket sales in Orange County and PPV than any alternative. The flip side is he’s Tank Abbott in his 40s.
Don Frye - Probably not a realistic option, but certainly the most entertaining "I want Fedor" quote:
"If Tom was smart, he’d have me fighting Fedor instead of whoever he’s hiring on a one week notice," Don Frye told MMAInsider. "My phone works if he wants a real fight with someone who sell a fight in four days, somebody who will beat that bald-headed commie too."
Post your thoughts on who would be the most entertaining choice as well as any fighters I missed that have had any serious public statements about the fight.
UPDATE 1 - King Mo - Mo is "tweeting" all over the place about being a possible opponent because he is training actively and is licensed in California. I've not really heard any talk of this being a possibility beyond Mo's own twitter account.
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I demand that Tank be added to the poll
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
late entry in the sweepstakes...
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by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know for a fact, MO would love to fight Fedor!
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh!! i hope this fight happens somehow.. Mo is probably around 220 now anyway, and is training right now.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha… seriously, i love the fact that right before Mo walks out into the arena , he is still talking to the girls to make sure everybody knows the moves and beats.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like I can hear the music.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember reading that Mo trained with Alves leading up to 100 and couldn’t take him down. How’s would he fair with Fedor?
by MMAcGyver on Jul 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he said he couldnt take down alves?? really?
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read it or heard it in an interview, I believe it was someone from Alves’ camp talking about how GSP wouldn’t be able to take him down. Something like, “We brought in some really good wrestlers including King Mo who wasn’t able to get him down”. Something like that. If anyone else remembers this…
by MMAcGyver on Jul 24, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you serious? Why not just dig up Pedro Rizzo, or Ricco Rodriguez’ fat ass while we’re at it. Come on people, the biggest knock on Fedor is that he doesnt fight quality competition, so why on earth would it ever make sense to match him up with fodder from March Badness. I’d rather see Fedor in a Sambo match with 12 midgets than against that Anarchist retard
by erogers72 on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booo! and dude midget is Not the proffered nomenclature.
Hello, Japan!
by Mr.Kib on Jul 24, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DON FRYE HATES COMMIES!!!!
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Bring back the Cold War, Don. TEAM AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don Fry FTW!
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Jul 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have dreams of it being similar to Frye/Takayama.
by jrobb20 on Jul 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all have that dream.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Frye will fight him in the lobby damnit!
by jrobb20 on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the other Frye quote...
“He ain’t seen anything I have to offer,” continued Frye. “He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes. I’ll bring it. And if he can bring it, you’ll have the best fight you’ve ever seen on the planet.”
by jrobb20 on Jul 23, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
best quote eva!
"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008
by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
‘If I wanted to spend half an hour between a pair of hairy legs, I’d go to your mother’s house.’
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
another good one – Don is the life of the party huh
"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008
by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don frye <3
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I loved this quote so much I made it a part of me :)
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 24, 2009 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brent...
I added a poll, just because I’m curious as to who the consensus is. Lot of good, compelling arguments for different guys.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
Add names to it if you like… I only added the serious fights.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant to add a poll...
but then got a phonecall and hit post and didn’t think about it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Frye please.
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by Brad Ackerson on Jul 23, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
most entertaining = tank Abbott with raffles and wasabi
Most poetic = Seth P.. P as in seth the promotion killer
If frye and tank is considered, why not put Severn in the card so we can finally have a card that’s surpasses wargods..
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I gotta disagree… we know Frye will come out like a madman.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then it would be more entertaining.
Haha! …where do you disagree though? The question was about being entertained right?
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Frye is much more entertaining than Abbott. He could do a Dear Don episode before the event. LOL
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think monson is the most deserving, but entertainment wise i would like to see fedor vs vitor. with that said, please dont even give tank the punchers chance… i hope that was just a joke…tank
by bluejitz on Jul 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is smart to weight
on accepting Vitor Belfort. He is signed to fight at 185 and until that changes, he has to keep tapering. The longer Fedor weights on accepting, the smaller his opponent is.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*wait… clearly was thinking ahead to the weight issue.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 23, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point..
Although I think it sucks that he keeps us fans weighting also.. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Snowman!! Even though he just STOLE a decision from Roy Nelson.
PS- I heard Brock Lesnar was on Jim Rome’s radio show today. Anybody know what happened, or has a link?
PPS- BROCK LESNAR!!!
by Lewish on Jul 23, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No one cares anymore. Its all about Affliction and Fedor right now.
FEDOR!!! =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Jul 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
unbelievably awesome!!!
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 23, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar
He is too big a name for one post.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was all polite and apologetic. he said he didnt have anything personal against Mir. rome asked him about fedor. brock said yeah he’d fight him but he still has things he wanted to accomplish first. so i am offically stating that lesnar is dodging fedor. run with it.
by Headkick on Jul 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why the hell is Frye not on the God damn poll
by Chuntsman949 on Jul 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Jul 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he isn’t a realistic opponent. That shit is not happening. Although, I know we all want it to happen.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor Opponent To Be Announced Tomorrow
MMAWeeklycom: Vice President Tom Atencio on Thursday told MMAWeekly that Fedor’s new opponent would be announced on Friday.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nick Diaz or King Mo as Underdog Bets?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to this guy, the #2 (pfft laugh) HW in the world?
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yawn. Old post Subo. We are dealing with Suspense! now.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s trying to cover all angles. It’s what you love about BE.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, which is why that post already exists, which is pretty damn funny, I must say. Those HDNet adds came in handy after all. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
This is the first time anyone has seen them.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I may not, anonymous white head, but the CSAC seems to know you quite well.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to miss the train, subo. Seriously, go toss your name in Atencio’s hat. We need a real “STFU Subo” graphic.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
that was brutal
"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008
by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its funny cuz its true.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has smoogy been welcomed back to BE yet?
"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008
by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was good for Machida gifs and bitching and moaning.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was also a walking talking illustration of pretty much everything I hate about hardcore MMA fans. So that was fun. He was a better advertisement for the UFC than I could ever be.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it weird that I miss ol’ smoogamaphone?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I’ve said it several times – he was a good foil that occasionally just said ‘I can’t defend that’ (Mezger/Sakuraba comes to mind).
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be weirder if you didn’t.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He posts a lot of his same bullshit on the UG if you care to read it.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got run out of here for doing that shit too much – I feel no need to chase and respond to fifty other morons going ‘LOL subo iz sso stuped’
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is actually pretty amusing, his bitterness is highly entertaining, and the thread where he and that mmapayout guy circle jerked each other for being banned from BE was very hilarious.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The extent of my curiosity only goes to the extent that I was brought up.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well when they referenced idiots I assumed they were talking about you. I think they also attacked Kid Nate.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read the sig, bitches.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever Leland
Go put some more glitter on your Manhoef posters
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t rec that then you have no budo
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not allowed to rec subo comments.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a staff directive or more of a personal pledge?
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was told the stench would never come off.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Source?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was in some other post where I agreed with you (ugh… shivers)
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So he can laugh out loud but he can't rec me
You all need to rec the Manhoef poster comment.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manhoef performs better with more glitter. It’s known.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently you didn't apply enough the other night
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by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure it was me. But I meant that being rec’d by subo would never wear off.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First: Monson
Second: Frye
Third: Tag team, Fedor v. Monson and Frye
by cmsove on Jul 23, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedor vs don frye would be a sweet fight to watch
by baldspot23 on Jul 23, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
or does this seem like a no win for any one, seriously, if Fedor takes on vitor, he’s taking on someone two class’ under him, if he takes on Rodgers, he’s facing someone who isn’t in the same skill level. Fedor’s management seems content on padding Fedors record at the moment, then actually boosting, or potentially boosting his "best in the world’ fighter title. Monson at the moment is the only guy on the list of potentials that would stand a chance, and would actually be a credible win for Fedor.
by proflex on Jul 23, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s management…getting him easy fights? What? No way. This must be some kind of joke.
by dumbwhiteguy on Jul 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
How the fuck is Rogers not a credible opponent? Undefeat, huge, top10, just beat AA. Jesus Christ what more do you want?
Do you think Carwin or Cain would be more credible?
by gunranger on Jul 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for the record I hope monson gets it
by gunranger on Jul 23, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, 100% would Carwin and Cain be more credible opponents.
Both can talk about the game without using terms like “ground stuff”, let alone actually be a threat both on their feet and with the “ground stuff”.
by Razreshat on Jul 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's Brett fucking Rogers.
Would you have asked that same question before he KO’d Andre Glassjawski? 2 months ago you would have thought it was a joke. AA isn’t that great, Rogers would get killed by anyone with a ground game (FYI, Fedor’s is pretty good).
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by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do you base this on out of curiosity? brett’s ground game that is?
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read Razreshats post about 'Ground stuff'
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 24, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i give them credit that at least they looked at the poll and kinda are trying to take into consideration what fight the fans want to see
by baldspot23 on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frye, because if Monson faces Fedor you wont have the US v Russia angle. Monson would be all “I hate the USA” and shit
Frye fights for the USA
by Discman2 on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
LOL
so true, monson is the least patriotic american fighter i think there is. btw i like the “and shit” part…it really gives it a good ring!
cheers
by bluejitz on Jul 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor likes America more than monson
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
least patriotic?
think about it… the fact that he speaks out about the american government and it’s poor policies makes him more patriotic than those of us who do nothing but complain about it. burying your head in the sand is un-patriotic. btw, i think monson has the best chance against fedor.
by stray on Jul 23, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that he complains via the medium of questionable tattoos is far better than all of you other lazy complainers!
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Monson should be the chosen one...
Instead of finding Santiago an opponent, give Fedor Jeff Monson. He’s legit, great grappler, and stands a chance.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vitor is a bad choice
Believe it or not, Vitor doesn’t have 1 punch knock out power . Except for the Lindland fight, it hasn’t happened. His wins are generally peppering TKOs on the ground of stunned opponents…and I cant really think of any of those against someone great on the ground (arguably wanderlei). It’s just opponents that turtle up and take his punches going WTF do I do?
Anyone here see Fedor just sitting there taking punches if it goes to the ground?
Look at the Tito and Couture fights. If you have a good clinch or takedowns you can beat him. Randy and Tito dont have the subs or KO power of Fedor.
by Headkick on Jul 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is going to sub him. Pretty quickly. He’ll realize that Fedor’s power is insane, get subbed, and state after the fight that “Fedor has unbelievable strength” just like every opponent he’s faced has said.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/exclusive-fedor-upset-ready-for-replacement-18686
"You know, I’m being really honest here," Fedor said. "I am equally interested in a fight with either Belfort or Rogers. I’ve never fought with either one. I used to watch Belfort fight, even before I started competing. So there is a history there for me with him. It is very interesting to me; he was a fighter who faced and beat a lot of the greatest fighters in MMA at the time. Rogers is a fighter who is tearing through the heavyweight division with 10 fights and 10 wins. And, I have to add, he beat Arlovski."
by Nick Thomas on Jul 23, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if tank abbott beats fedor i will eat my own face
by phantasma475 on Jul 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it would be the greatest moment of my life. I would just replace every article on BE’s front page with pictures of Tank and text reading “hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I would pay to see it.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fightlinker would probably beat you to it
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by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Brett Rogers just because I think he is the best opponent
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
terrible reason, loving, just terrible, lol.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 23, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my two cents....
Monson clearly out of any available heavyweight is the most credible. Also I have always thought most of fedors opponents are tailer made for him to win so what’s different now.
Vitor is intriguing because of his speed and technical skill. Hw vitor was the best vitor but that was years ago.
Brett Rogers has the one punch knock out power but Fedor doesn’t run in drop his hands and throw kicks. I think Rogers has potential just not enough for this fight as this time.
Tito would have saved this show. His name in California would have boosted the hell out of ppv buys and media attention. Not to mention a world class grappling match. Too bad tito wasn’t training prior to this month.
Abbott ironically would help attention in orange county and Frye would make for an entertaining fight however out goes fedors credibility. I mean hell why not contact royce gracie and rickson while were at it.
All in all after this whole Barnett fiasco affliction is basically lying in front of a speeding train. Just save what you can and let Fedor fight monson while vitor fights Santiago.
"What do you want from me?..... A Slap?"
by xtremecouture on Jul 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Save Belfort-Santiago
The Belfort-Santiago fight is worth preserving. Why destroy the 2nd main event? It’s a highly anticipated fight, it’s significant to the rankings, it’s a fair fight and fans want to see it. Leave it be.
by klown on Jul 23, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also
Brett Rogers knocked out arlovksi, ray Mercer worked Tim Sylvia with one punch and tito Ortiz made up with Dana white. Is it that far fetched that Fedor can be upset by basically any of these guys. That would be awesome.
"What do you want from me?..... A Slap?"
by xtremecouture on Jul 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor can be upset by Tank Abbott, I’m married to Gisele.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, anybody can get lucky. And Tank seems to have built a career around getting lucky.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, anybody can get lucky.
Precisely; Leland can bang Gisele = Tank can bang out Fedor.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct. She finds me charming.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, nobody can get that lucky.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah 10-14 is getting real lucky. Tank is the biggest loser to have ever fought for the UFC
by erogers72 on Jul 23, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Puncher’s chance.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give it to Monson
He is a credible, worthy opponent, and he wants the fight.
by klown on Jul 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Monson
He not only has a chance (slim tho it is), but he would be extremely marketable to the casual fans. Just flash a photo of the guy and people will ‘oooh!’.
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Jul 23, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Monson is less risky for Fedor, because he’s been training for weeks to fight an elite wrestler. If they throw in a striker now, Fedor would be less prepared and might get caught.
by deepbeep on Jul 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge Frye fan and would buy tickets if that was the fight they announced but realistically I would pick Fedor in a fight with both Frye and Tank at the same time.
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by Day Man on Jul 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Frye’s mustache will KO Fedor
add america shorts and you have the next god damn rocky
by Discman2 on Jul 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Tom Atencio
If you read this, I am pleading you. I will kill a puppy for every person who isn’t Don Frye that fights Fedor on August 1. This is the fight that NEEDS to happen.
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 23, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"add america shorts and you have the next god damn rocky"
More like the last rocky.
by spectaa on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My God. It’s perfect.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
by mythbuster on Jul 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Freddie Mercury, but
How did anyone think he was straight?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they can keep their marriage, but they have to give back the mustache!
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the words of a great radio personality. “Freddie Mercury wasn’t gay, he just banged anything that moved.”
by Dropkick434 on Jul 23, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“and had balls”
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by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my girlfriend is wondering why I’m laughing so hard…that was priceless
by soadtrails on Jul 23, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fedor needs to come out to this song!
DONT STOP ME NOW!
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Fedor fight is like the golden ticket for middle of the pack MMA fighters.
A fight that can in absolutely in NO WAY hurt your standing in MMA since Fedor is the #1 P4P in the world and you’re taking the fight on a little over 1 weeks notice.
Plus you get a cool half million (or so it’s rumored)
I took karate until I was 14… where do I sign up
by NateDouble on Jul 23, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, give me some of what you are on
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by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freon?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly pledge...
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by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP is number 1. After that I’d say Anderson, then Fedor, then Torres. Those are all debatable, other than GSP being number 1.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have to start considering Mr. Machida.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida needs more wins over the #2, #3 guys in his division. GSP and Torres (and hell let’s talk about Mike fucking Brown) have been cleaning out their divisions.
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After looking at Torres’ record I am not thinking so much. He is impressive as hell, but is very similar to Machida’s situation.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I keep thinking he’s already beaten Bowles, which would cement him as near the top p4p.
Right now I think it looks something like GSP—big gap—Anderson and Fedor———-real big gap——Torres, Brown, Machida, etc.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To start considering him?
This is boolshit. He’s in the top 5-6, no doubt.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think pound for pound rankings are the one ranking that should be based on subjective stats more so than objective records. The quality of performance rather than just the W is very important.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hypothetical
Tell me that Machida’s fighting style wouldn’t effectively translate between weight classes.. Of course it would. We can’t wait for him to beat more guys, if that means his style doesn’t improve. That’s what divisional rankings are for. He’s already a top flight fighter and perhaps the best he’s ever going to be. So he beats all ten of the top ten LHW’s in the downswing of his career and he makes it on the list? No logic in that at all.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
If Rua somehow wins, or even Rampage/Rashad, putting him top 3 p4p would look premature.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely not
If it’s retrospective, then we are to wait for guys to finish out their careers before placing them in some sort of P4P HOF. Rua winning would improve his standing in P4P consideration. It’s organic. Like PJ Benn falling from grace when GSP rubbed his nose in the shit.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida will start moving up soon, but right now he only has 1 win over a top-5 fighter.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HUH?
BJ Penn, Rich Franklin, et al? Talk about P4P; those are two of the best in two other weight classes.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two lighter weight classes – one waaaaay lighter. And I guess ‘et al’ is another word for ‘Rashad Evans’.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you consider Penn top five LHW? Franklin?
If all that mattered was the ranking in their own weight class, would you consider Brock Lesnar top p4p if in his next two fights he kicked the ass of Torres and Brown?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the shit?
I have no idea what you’re going on about. P4P suggests that the same guy in any weight class would be a threat. Machida’s fighting style pretty deliberately ensures his success given those circumstances. Not sure what you’re arguing..
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, p4p means that relative to his weight, he’s incredibly dominant. The top ten HWs would annihilate each of the top ten BWs, across the board; that does not mean the top ten HWs top the p4p lists.
If P4P really meant what you were saying, why doesn’t Mike Thomas Brown fight at HW, where he would make much better money in the UFC, than crappy WEC payouts? Or Torres?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
You’re not making any sense. BJ Penn and Franklin are great fighters. You suggested he hasn’t fought any. BJ has long been considered a top P4P fighter and Franklin is a top MW. He has proven that he can hang with fighters from other divisions, as well as his own. I’m not saying he should move around, obviously. P4P is purely hypothetical.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If its purely hypothetical, I claim right now that Ryo Chonan is top p4p in the world!!!
How do I do rolleyes on here?
BJ Penn and Rich Franklin are great fighters; Penn would get mauled by all of the top 10 HWs, Franklin by the top 5. All p4p judgements are based roughly on what we know about the fighters as compared to their own weight class and the ones above them and directly below.
Machida has one win over a top ten LHW. Maybe two if you consider Franklin. If you prefer to consider Franklin as a MW, he gets a bonus for being top 5, but loses a bit because he’s at MW and a LHW fighting a MW gets an obvious weight advantage.
At this point, you’re the one who isn’t making any sense.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad was, and is, worthy of a little more than a top ten ranking. They were both undefeated going into that fight, remember?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think he’s at #3. I was making the point that beyond Rashad, there is nobody in the top 10 he’s beaten.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Because beating them at the time counts for nothing. You’re clearly one of those “Who cares if you beat (fighter), because he’s a loser once you beat him”. Tito? Thiago Silva? Both Top Ten at the time of their defeat.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida is the undisputed #1 fighter in his weightclass
No one even comes close.
That’s generally enough to make you an arguable top 5 p4p, for what that’s worth.
Accept this and move on.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Did you miss where I posted that I have Machida at #6?
BTW, if being undisputed #1 in your weight class is enough to put you in the top 5 p4p, there are currently 7 fighters in the top 5 p4p.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did qualify with 'generally' for a reason
And I’d like to see what 5 fighters you have ahead of Machida at LHW, much for the same reasons I like to watch “Dana Did It” conspiracists outline their theories.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did I say I have 5 fighters ahead of Machida at LHW?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In response to me saying he was #1 at LHW
You said he was number 6.
6-5=1
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, right
And I’m the one who needs to “keep up”
Maybe you should try to be a little more coherent
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That old chestnut: blaming the other guy for your misunderstanding.
Let me clarify: Machida is undisputed #1 at LHW. However, there are seven weight classes at which there are undisputed #1 fighters. I have Machida as #6 p4p.
Do you have a problem with that analysis?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not my misunderstanding
LOL. Did you miss where I posted that I have Machida at #6?
Does that say p4p? no. It just says #6. Machida is #1, Number 6 p4p.
It’s hardly worth talking to you if you can’t communicate effectively.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you so pissed off?
I clarified myself. Do you want to argue the points, or do you want to bitch?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you hate america?
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t let the terrorists win. Buy Detroit!
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEY
Take it easy with that bold, you violent creature.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You clearly have no idea what P4P means
If you don’t know that the idea of guys fighting each other with their same abilities without weight being a factor is what P4P is, you’re fucking lost.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re getting awfully angry for a guy who thinks he’s winning a stupid argument over p4p rankings.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm angry?
Are you my life coach or something?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Positively furious, even. You should see the steam.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for all the cutting myself and beating women, that would be a great analogy.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This old chestnut
Old trolling tactic: declare your opponent angry.
OMG Y R U SO ANGRY
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all the fuck and shit
That’s how you know someone doesn’t know their surroundings on BE; they call me angry. I poop rainbows, man. Fucking RAINBOWS.
Where’s subo??
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude. Calm down.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's my body
I do what I want.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughter ensues
I actually just took a moment to read the rest of your nonsense post and P4P has NOTHING to do with how you’d fare against the weight classes closest to you.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, actually, it does.
Hypothetically, to use your word, p4p is about who is the best fighter in the world, regardless of weight class.
Realistically, that would all be HWs and LHWs, because they are much bigger than the smaller fighters. So we tend to weight fighters, pun not intended, by their dominance over their own weight class. IE, because GSP is so dominant over WW, we consider him near the top p4p, even though he would likely be crushed by Brock Lesnar, who we do not consider to be top p4p.
Thats the truth of it. We have to judge based on results against other fighters at or near their own weight, or else we have nothing to judge by.
Let me ask you: who would you have in a fight between Brock Lesnar and Miguel Torres? Brock Lesnar and Mike Brown? Brock Lesnar and BJ Penn? Brock Lesnar and Georges St. Pierre?
Now, which of those fighters are considered in the p4p listings, and which are not?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would all be HWs and LHWs
This is where I stopped reading. Enjoy your day!
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you really think Torres would be likely to beat Fedor, Lesnar, Couture, Nogueira, Barnett, or even guys like Velasquez? Are you out of your mind?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 250 pound Torres who retains his athletic abilities would. In an open weight fight, which you are describing, he would lose badly.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now here's a guy
with a sig that is appropriate for the post he’s responding to
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My head hurts.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Torres would beat Velasquez?
Yet Blackout thinks that Machida beating Penn is proof of his p4p dominance.
Either p4p refers to dominance relative to weight, or if weight doesn’t matter, it refers to dominance irregardless of weight, in which case the top 5 HWs would probably be the top 5 p4p. Can’t have it both ways.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weight isn’t an issue in P4P discussion because you’re supposed to use overall skill as tiered into each weight class.
A Miguel Torres at 250 lbs., etc…
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you agree that it is skill and dominance as related to weight class, not dominance over other weight classes, right?
Because thats the crux of the argument between Blackout and I.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, give it a rest
I named them as quality competition. Are you trying to say BJ Penn isn’t a good fighter? Because he actually fought and beat him. It’s an example of a quality opponent when you said he only had one. Move along man….
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made that point as an elaboration. Penn has unique circumstances because he did fight in other weight classes. That can be considered PART of the argument.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you chase it up, he said Machida has only fought one quality/ranked opponent. The Penn and Franklin examples were to show that he has fought five (which did not include the fact that Ortiz and Thiago Silva were both top ten LHW’s when he beat them). I was disputing his convenient thinking.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What you are describing is open weight. Pound for pound is used for fantasy purposes to compare people in different weight classes because the size issue is such a big deal in combat sports.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY.
The weight difference matters. Which is why Machida beating Penn and Franklin only counts as being elite fighters in fantasy purposes, because in real life, where weight matters, Machida had a weight advantage over Franklin, and an enormous advantage over Penn.
Blackout was using Penn and Franklin to prove Machida’s real life dominance, but in real life, he had a weight advantage, so those victories do not count as much as victories over top fighters in his own weight class.
This should be obvious, and I’m a little depressed that Blackout doesn’t see it.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should be a lot depressed
But for a totally different reason.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can't read good
You claimed he beat one top fighter in the world and I named at least three.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recognize that they’re top five in their respective weight classes, Penn in his case number one, Franklin probably #3 at MW (who the hell knows what he ranks at LHW). They don’t count as much as beating top five fighters at LHW. Do you have a problem with that assessment?
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My man...
Just drop it. My point is that they’re good fighters. He beat them and they’re good fighters. That’s it.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do not resort to insults...
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t the one who started with the insulting.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 23, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That horse is obviously not #1 pound for pound if he got beaten by someone so much smaller than him.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brock lesnar
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your fanboy dreams.
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by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least..
Until there’s some movement.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is saying Fedro is #1, #2, and #3 pound for pound.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I got it d00d. I’m saying that when he comes to Zuffa and, say, one of the Zuffa guys goes to Japan, that formula will change.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARLOVSKI
it’s becoming pretty evident that i’m the only one on planet earth that thinks they’re considering arlovski for the rematch he wanted so badly, but i’ve certainly got my fingers crossed. money would not be an issue since i’m sure arlovski would take this fight for peanuts because it’s a chance at the redemption he so desperately seeks and he also has back to back losses so affliction definitely has the advantage in negotiating. arlovski has also fought on 10 days notice before. i think it would be huge. fedor recently said arlovski was one of the top 3 hardest fights of his career. please tommy, make it happen.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He also said Sylvia was tough, then laughed about it later. I think he was being nice.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
unless he was “being nice” to cro cop and nogueira too because he said those three were his hardest fights in his interview with bas
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be up for a rematch if Arlovski had a full camp to prepare. If he fights a disciplined fight, I think he could beat Fedor with footwork and technique. Say what you will, but Fedor had nothing for him… well… until that KO :/
by Meeaaat on Jul 23, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. he already has the perfect gameplan, and he’s certainly not the type of fighter to be OUT of shape, although he may not be in peak shape.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he past the mandatory suspension time due to the last KO?
by jrobb20 on Jul 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think he is...
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sheeeiiitt
didn’t think about that. aug. 1st would be exactly 2 months.
thanks for ruining everything jrobb.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just about to say the same thing
by ryanwk628 on Jul 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way, full camp implies AA can get into his own head.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know what Rogers is getting so much more attention than Werdum? Rogers hasn’t even been training (supposedly) and Werdum would be much closer to ready. They’re both in the same boat of Strikeforce not really wanting to put them out there (at the currently offered price). If Fedor’s camp were going to call out one or the other, why not call out the one that’s actually been training for a fight?
by Stanlee on Jul 23, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know what Rogers is getting so much more attention than Werdum?
1. Rogers is Undefeated, unlike Werdum.
2. Rogers just knocked out the #2 Heavyweight in the world.
by madiq on Jul 23, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait… #2?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of places ranked Arlovski at #2 when he was announced as Fedro’s opponent.
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by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but not SINCE
He sure as hell wasn’t #2 when Rogers waxed him.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After all the giants
We need some Fedor role reversal. FEDOR vs. TORRES!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Torres, Round 2 KO via cartwheel kick.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sherdog.com/news/blog/couture-analyzes-belfortfedor-18688
"The fact that Vitor’s a southpaw and Fedor hasn’t prepared for a southpaw, the fact that he is very, very agile and explosive and a great boxer all lend well to him having a great performance," Randy Couture said.
…"Certainly he has as good a chance as Barnett had at fighting Fedor."
by Nick Thomas on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Silly Randy
He has a better chance than Barnett at fighting Fedor. Like, any chance.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, notice how he didn’t say “beating” Fedor.
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like someone hit the start button on the hype machine a little early.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Randy’’s Protege (w/ Randy Gameplan)!!!!
Oh Snap!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zzzzzzzz
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy’s protege? Now that is a damn stretch.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did You Not Read The Memo!
Looks like someone hit the start button on the hype machine a little early.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering Belfort has been fighting longer than Randy, protege is the wrong word.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what went wrong with his chest
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 23, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly he has a better chance than Barnett to fight Fedor.
Fixed
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to bring the mood down. It looks like he needs medical attention ASAP.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got a tweet...
She wants to fight Fedor.
by Discman2 on Jul 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since we are in the paralell universe of rematches why not Arlovski? That would be a better fight than last time. If not then Bobby Lashley makes good sense.
by naturalist on Jul 23, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because he is still suspended from his last ko
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by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is more important for Affliction in this decision?
Are they trying to get the best match-up for Fedor?
Are they trying to get the best match-up to sell the most PPVs?
Are they trying to get the fighter that will take the fight for the lowest amount of money?
by mattman73 on Jul 23, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.tatame.com/2009/07/23/ATT-coach—Jorge-will-fight-Vitor-Belfort
American Top Team leaders, Marcus Conan Silveira says
"I know exactly what you know, that Josh (Barnett) tested positive, but the situation is the same: Jorge (Santiago) will fight Vitor Belfort"
by Nick Thomas on Jul 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Okay, I'm officially behind Monson
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by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m really warming up to Don Frye. You know it’d be fun to watch.
And I think Ben Rothwell wouldn’t suck at all.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Four minutes?
They might just have to do a round robin with all of these bozos.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Fedor] ain’t seen anything I have to offer. He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes. I’ll bring it. And if he can bring it, you’ll have the best fight you’ve ever seen on the planet.
Don Motherfucking Frye
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late on that one
It’s up there somewhere.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fagan has to be jumping for joy.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please, oh pretty please with a cherry on top.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would he want to go and do that? I thought he was kidding at first. Can you say career suicide?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Affliction has traditionally relied on fighters sacrificing their careers to Fedor.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AND
Fedor has traditionally relied on promoters sacrificing their companies to him. He’s like a giant MMA black hole.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedro is just Finkie’s hand puppet.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was on the Jason Ellis show the other day, he thinks he can beat anyone. Ongoing beef with Rampage, thinks hes the guy to beat Brock … someone is due for a reality check.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 23, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mo would totally fight Fedor!! 100% sure
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
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by ekc on Jul 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Losing to fedor is actually known to be an inevitable step in a HW career.
by spectaa on Jul 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he agreed shortly after.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of Off topic, kind of On
Whatever happened to the Fighting Fedor reality show?
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone probably died, so it got axed.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, you responsible blogger you.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... speculation is your friend, subo.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
If I start doing that, then the people that attack me all the time will actually have ammo. And we can’t have that.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s more than enough already, just saying, it wouldn’t hurt that much.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll tell you the same thing I told smoogy
The day you start agreeing with me, I’ll know I’m doing something wrong.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody died.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Is It!!!
Its happening now and we are all involved in it!
Affliction 3 will reveal all the behind the scene footage and the finale.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where can I text my vote?
I want to vote for Sanjaya
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be attacked by bees or Fedor? Or some cruel combination of the two?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fedor that has bees in his mouth
so when he barks he shoots bees at you
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found their super-classy website
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesnar.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOOOOOOoooooooooooohhhhhhhhh, THAT would be a good match
Why has nobody else thought of this?
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must have dropped buku bucks on that multimedia paradise.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
beaucoup?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were so proud of their web design they put their contact info on it
In case you thought I was joking…
President Bruce Ryan
(703) 843-1420
BruceRyan@fightingfedor.com
COO Jim Moran
(504) 485-1986
JimMoran@fightingfedor.com
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMFG
From the “donations” tab
Corporate Donations
This is the page where we will list the Donations that Corporations will give to any American who can defeat Fedor Emelianenko before January 2nd 2008.
The first American who can defeat Fedor Emelianenko will receive the following:
Free Buffalo Wings for One Year – Courtesy of Wing Zone.
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
by Paynuss on Jul 23, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I’ve forgotten how funny the 1997 website can still be.
by bignerd on Jul 23, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget the “Who is Fedor” page is blank.
by bignerd on Jul 23, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I thought you were kidding. That is fucking awesome.
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They spelled Fedro wrong
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
www.fightingbrock.com
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is Tank not on the poll?
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 23, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I demanded that he be added. But I’m dreaming of Don Frye kicking Fedor’s commie ass.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why haven’t you told me how awesome my new profile picture is?
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I forgot. It’s fantastic. The Princess dress seals the deal.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost didn’t add the princess dress; but once I did, I came this close to adding white gloves and the tiara. I had to stop somewhere.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could’ve made Brock into Bowser. The possibilities are endless.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, no
Steve looks like Super Mario and Lesnar Donkey Kong’s mother fuckers.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because there is now less Machida in the world.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still here
Watching over us all.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. Rogers
2. Monson
3. Werdum
I don’t want it to be Vitor, because I want to see Belfort-Santiago.
by madiq on Jul 23, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh that is fucking tempting
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"M-1 Presents Breakthrough" on Aug. 28.
Don Frye (20-7-1) vs Muhammed “King Mo” Lawal (4-0)
Nick Thompson (38-11-1) vs Karl Amoussou (10-2-1)
Nice!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Amoussou is an awesome prospect.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That eliminates Frye (thank god) and King Mo from an Aug 1st fight. Tank Abbots chances just got better.
by bignerd on Jul 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
That fight has been announced for a long time.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
King Mo was still saying on MMA Live he wants Fedor. Really King Mo? No, you want the pay day…
Be a man, not a child-Phil Anselmo
by ANance on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Gotz Scoopz
Real fighters being considered to face Fedor other than Vitor Belfort are:
1. Brett Rogers: M-1 thinks he is the most deserving and marketable fighter out of there selection. Russian fans surprisingly love Rogers, and thing he would be a great test for Fedor.
2. Jeff Monson.
3. Paul Buentello.
4. Fabricio Werdum: Just like Rogers, in negotiations with Strikeforce to see if they can work something out.
5. Vitor Belfort will be the man if all else fails.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Such breaking news.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, no Frye, Tank, King Mo, Nick Diaz, etc.
Hate to break it to you guys.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Supremacy
Why don’t you just make “=)” your signature, wouldn’t that be a lot easier?
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps, but, sometimes I don’t want to use it, then, it would make it harder.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is this a scoop? Pretty sure we heard all these name 36 hours ago.
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You heard Monson 36 hours ago? Thats impressive.
And no one had brought up Buentello before, like I mean realistically.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/7/22/957476/fedor-barnett-in-jepardy
Jeff Monson is always fighting somewhere, he fights like 15 times a year. He probably would be fighting someone that night anyway.
by Stanlee on Jul 21, 2009 11:06 PM PDT
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fighters.com quote regarding Monson that I made a fanpost linking to last night was something that I originally read during lunch at work yesterday, approx. 12:30 EST.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is that any different from what you just wrote?
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“=)”
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave you guys a ranking of who they are considering.
That is all. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who do u want to see
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve already stated before.
Monson, Werdum, or Rogers would work for me.
If those fail, Buentello. If that fails, Vitor.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What it means is that if M-1 can’t get Rogers and Werdum, they would be getting Monson.
Vitor vs Santiago should still be happening. That is all.
Who knows, it changes by the minute.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone find Blagoi Ivanov
I dislike Matt Hughes and Twidder.
by MonkeyCHops on Jul 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Paul Buentello Comments On Fighting Fedor
I dont think I’ve earned a match with Fedor but who has? Of course I would step up if the show needed me too. As far as not being relavent who has a better UFC/Strikeforce/Affliction record than I do that isn’t under contract with another company? If you can find someone have them contact Tom and let him know they want to fight Fedor on a little more than a weeks notice.
That makes 2 of us. It happens though so no big deal. Just happened to AA and I laugh at how much crap he gets now. The guys still a stud. I think Vitor would be the right move as far as mainstream but it doesn’t change the fact that I would take the fight if offered.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even his shorts are vaguely shaped like the US
You’re hired.
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
comin again
to save teh muthafrigin day ya!
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 23, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^^^
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by subo on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get that ak-47 outta there. leave those to the reds.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats clearly
a thompson.
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad
i thought it was a shitty ak, but yes, clearly it is an awesome thompson. play a lot of world at war, do we?
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 23, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's to the Army and Navy, and the battles they have won. Here's to America's colors, the colors that never run.
May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that should have been a reply to the excellent artwork above
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 23, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would the CSAC even sanction a match between Fedor and Tank? I really doubt it.
by Chromium on Jul 24, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why isn't frye on the poll then?
i like him for the entertainment value. nobody really they have has a chance that’s available , so why not?
by bdw on Jul 24, 2009 3:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should have been...
but as he wasn’t a “serious” choice Leland didn’t include him in the poll he added to the article. By the time I went to add him there were already several hundred votes in
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 24, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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