Strikeforce Fighters Brett Rogers and Fabricio Werdum Will Not Be Fighting Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction Trilogy
by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 PM EDT
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MMA Junkie reports:
Strikeforce Director of Communications Mike Afromowitz told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) his organization's heavyweight fighters Fabricio Werdum and Brett Rogers will not be facing Fedor Emelianenko in the main event of "Affliction: Trilogy" on Aug. 1.
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"It's safe to say neither Fabricio or Brett will be fighting on Aug. 1," Afromowitz said. "The plan is still for Fabricio to fight on Aug. 15, and we hope to have an opponent named soon.
"As for Brett, nothing is finalized, but he won't be fighting on Aug. 1."
I don't blame Strikeforce for not wanting to mess up their own August card to help out Affliction.
But as a fan I can't help but being disappointed that we won't get to see Fedor vs Werdum. Of course, I'm more disappointed with Josh Barnett for letting everyone down. But of the options out there, Werdum seemed like the most credible, even if not the best PPV draw.
At this point, I'm rooting for Jeff Monson as the best of the available options. I'd much rather see Vitor Belfort vs Jorge Santiago than any other fight on the card, so please please don't mess that one up too.
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I'm honestly a Monson fan
I just think it’s waste to give him his big break with 10 dayd notice.
by MMA_Messiah on Jul 22, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He fights in weeks notice all the time. Check out his activity.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’m guessing he is in fighting shape all the time which is a plus. I’m going for Snowman since I wanna see the Vito Santiago fight and Werdum is officially out now.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 22, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you can blame
Sylvia for that, the man did almost nothing but back peddle the whole fight.
Sylvia vs Anyone
Can be one of the most boring fights
by bignerd on Jul 22, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately....
Tim didn’t fight, he just fell down
Maybe backpedaling is his best option these days
If I were fighting Mercer, I’d backpedal out of the ring.
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
And I heard Lashley is a no go as well.
Which means it’s either Monson or Belfort. They could always use Buentello instead. It would be a squash fight….
Nothing is really that good. Belfort vs. Fedor has an added negative bonus…. It gets rid of Belfort vs. Santiago, which was a very good fight on paper.
It’s funny…
Last week there were alot of people talking about how Fedor doesn’t need to go to the UFC, that there are so many other other legit Heavyweights for him to fight.
Now we’re starting to see the reality of it.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 22, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
True, but lets say they had a month to figure it out. Would there be that many more names to consider?
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 22, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a plethora more, no.
But it doesn’t take a very long list to string along fights. It’s when stuff really hits the fan—as it clearly is now—that these benefits of having an actual division (as the UFC does) become very stark. We’ve got a situation now where the top contenders to fight Fedor have all either tested positive for drugs, gotten themselves knocked out again recently, or are reasonably unwilling to fight Fedor on 10 days notice. That’s not everyday stuff, but it is obviously the sort of thing that the UFC is better able to deal with.
Then again, Jeff Monson.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Hopefully, this will get Fedor to realize that the UFC is where he should be. I think this could affect his view, and get him to understand that stability in the premier MMA organization is in his best interest, now that he’s heading towards the twilight of his career.
My only hope now is that the MMA Gods smile upon us and give us something better than Monson/Belfort. Not that I won’t be watching, but damn.
Personally, I was hoping for Brett Rogers.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 22, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor doesnt realize anything… Its up to Vadim to realize.
by mmalogic on Jul 22, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed, but what I’m hoping Fedor realizes from this little snafu, is that Finkie can’t make things happen same way Dana can. Better promotion, better money (?) and better fights…it’s in his best interest, and I hope his loyalty is not interfering with his success does not keep interfering with his success.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Finkie gets 7 figures from fedors “purse” payed directly to him as a “consulting” fee… Zuffa dont play dat.
Zuffa keeps said figures for themselves.
So much better than funding your friend and manager.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Brock Lesnar
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I don't get why this is a "boom" or "snap"
Will someone fill me in? My understanding was that Lesnar makes more than fedor in PPV bonuses alone
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
capital L didn’t understand mmalogic’s comment and presumably neither did Farthammer and Heenan.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 23, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
The boom and snap were with regards to the Brock Lesnar, which is now the ultimate comeback.
BOOSH
It is the be all, end all of any conversations. It can be used under any circumstance. For instance, you panic because there is an emergency, you look to your right and you see a glass that says "In case of an emergency “break glass”. Then you would break the glass, and behind you would find “Brock Lesnar”.
Then everything goes back to normal.
Spinning out solid gold, like Rumpelstiltskin.
by Heenan on Jul 23, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My apologies.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 24, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what happens when multiple organizations try to work together.
There is something to be said for fighters all signed to one promoter. Makes this situation much easier to handle.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 22, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. Look what happened with Hendo vs Franklin 2.
Injuries and timing happens.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see yves vs fedor
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Jul 22, 2009 8:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I meant Gilbert Yvel.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Jul 23, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i might sound crazy but......
I have always felt like in a grappling match monson could hold his own vs Fedor. I know were talking mma here and Fedor will likely eat monson alive on the stand up it would be very interesting to watch monson roll with Fedor on the ground.
With that said monson did fight like what was it 3 times in 4 weeks. Pretty good guy, basically just a warrior.
Affliction has it rough, no big draw names like lashley or tito, no credible opponents like werdum or mirko, there left with little options and rankings wise monson is the top bet
"What do you want from me?..... A Slap?"
by xtremecouture on Jul 22, 2009 8:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what are the chances that Tom A. tells Fedor that an extra 100K is in it for him if he allows the opponent into at least the 2 min mark of the 2nd round just to make it seem like its a legit fight?
Slim to none
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 22, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, this isn’t Gary Shaw or Nobuyuki Sakakibara we’re talking about. Say what you will about his business plan, but Atencio isn’t a crook.
by An Old Friend on Jul 22, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
didnt royce gracie say at ufc 100
That he could hang with GSP or Brock or was that my mind wondering?
Sign him up, legend vs legend. The grandfather of mma vs the best to compete in mma.
That’s at least 200,000 ppv buys
"What do you want from me?..... A Slap?"
by xtremecouture on Jul 22, 2009 8:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I love how mmaheads think John+Jane Rando have any idea who the F Fedor Emelianko and Royce Gracie are. That fight (on top of never getting licensed) would be the lowest selling PPV in recent history. A (strong) argument could be put up that Monson would be a stronger draw.
this show is going to be the lowest selling PPV in recent history anyway
but it would sell much more if it had indeed had Royce’s name on it
by noscarznoproof on Jul 23, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If Hughes broke Royce's face
Think what Fedor would do. Not pretty.
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if this means Rogers is Overeem’s replacement?
So who is left? Monson? Fujita? A bloated Yoshida?
Travis Wiuff?
Ohh I got one, Dave Herman!
Dont see any way they rush Rogers into the Werdum match. Definition of “nothing to gain”.
Fighting Werdum after KOing AA would be a huuuuuuge step back and what does he gain from KOing Fabricio?? Knowing that he is even with Jr Dos Santos?? Not worth the risk of fighting him on short notice. Like someone mentioned above, he doesnt seem like the stay in fighting shape 24/7/365 type of guy.
At least they know better than to bring in Petruzelli
Dude is a promotion killer.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 22, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nope
Kimbo was the promotion killer by getting ko’d
Yup, that’s him.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 22, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Whatever affliction decides they better do it quick… Even if they dont use Vitor they can still ruin his fight by leading him on where he’s expecting to fight at HW 10 days out… this fucks a brotha up in da head.
And they have to redo all ad creatives and CSAC has to approve of a championship fight in such short notice.
True that. Hopefully we get a concrete answer by tonight or early manana. =/
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 22, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well… Unfortunately it’s going to be Belfort.
Even with Barnett Affliction was going down… why fuck up your last show even further…
Wow.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Thats what I am getting as well.
=(
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/7/22/958581/report-vitor-belfort-has-signed-on
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
No that was reported when Belfort signed but affliction had yet to commit to a final decision… They just gave Belforts camp the green light and everything in his training and diet is now changing.
He could really use it.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 23, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn you. I wanted to be the first one to suggest Rickson. I’m considering hiding your comment and then posting a new one just on principle…
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 23, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Do it!
Would love to see Rickson fight him though. I think someone above commented that Royce was saying he could beat Fedor, but it was Rickson.
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 4:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Supremacy
Orange you glad Cro Cop isn’t a free agent?
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
Eh. People would complain about that fight as well. Cro Cop is done…blah blah blah.
Its a no win for Fedor regardless.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah isnt crocop getting ready for his Dream Match?
LOL – go back to copying and pasting your shit.
by mmalogic on Jul 22, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WTF? What are you talking about, Mr. Verbal Contract With Cro Cop is great for UFC…LOL.
If UFC wanted a contract, they would have gotten one….hahaha.
I was the one telling people that Cro Cop is not someone you verbally sign a contract with.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Zuffa wanted a contract and got it… Like I said go back to copying and pasting because you dont know shit.
by mmalogic on Jul 22, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha. Yup, they did, after mouthing off and a few tears were shed.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S. Are you going to keep on going to the UG to try to convince people of your BS no one wants to hear? =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually you are usually the one crying to the UG about mmalogic.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Is that right? No one even cares over there…LOL.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
P.S.
Cro Cop’s dream match would be Fedor.
It hell wouldn’t be Al-Turk or Dos Santos.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
-1 Fail. Dream Organization, not ideal match. Stop fighting on teh interwebs.
by CliChe Guevara on Jul 22, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yet he signed with the UFC. Go figure.
by filipinomix2oo0 on Jul 23, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It's Belfort
Zak reports.
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/7/22/958581/report-vitor-belfort-has-signed-on
Shawn Tompkins, head trainer at Xtreme Couture, has confirmed to The Fight Network that Vitor Belfort has signed on to fight Fedor Emelianenko August 1st at the Affliction ‘Trilogy’ event in Anaheim, California.
("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)
Isn’t that the same Fight Network report everybody has been sitting on for an hour now?
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Condit/Kampman is on Spike right now
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
Dude, THANK YOU
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Buentello!
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
Monson...
…is the only fighter available who isn’t an outright laughable opponent or someone he just KO’d (Arloski). He’s easily their best option in this horrible situation.
mmaweekly has a piece up about an impending fedor press conference...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9206&zoneid=2
… with an interesting price tag for his eventual opponent, mentioned by meltzer
Damn I hate Fedor and his damn management!
Wait, did you just say Vitor beat the shit outta Feydor?
YA DON’T FUCKING SAY?!!
See fuckers! I told you he was irrelevant . Drinks on me… err Lorenzo.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 23, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
It’s a win/win for White, because if Vitor loses (as he most likely will), then he can offer him less money to bring him back the UFC.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
One thing people aren't talking about...
Will the CSAC let Belfort/Fedor happen? Didn’t they refuse to license Mir/Sylvia 2 way back when?
Brent seems to be on top of that.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question
If anyone here can please please help me out. How can I get all the news from BE emailed to me like a feed or whatever? We use MS Outlook. My job took our interwebz away and I can’t read any news or posts through out the day. It would be nice to at least still be able to know whats going on even without posting. It sucks major balls. :‘( Is it through that RSS thingy? I’ve never messed around with those before. I’d appreciate some help.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
There might be better options out there, but I use Google Reader. Pretty simple to use, works well enough for me.
by An Old Friend on Jul 23, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
But I can’t even get on google at my job.
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 23, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok I just did that but is there anyway I can get the updates automatically forwarded to my email at work through the google reader?
GSP: I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 23, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno—probably? I’ve never tried to do it that way. I’m frankly kind of surprised no one has swooped in to deride Google Reader and suggest something far better. Sorry I can’t be of any more help.
by An Old Friend on Jul 23, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
is there any way that Capital L can no longer post on this site….man his comments are……(search for the wording that doesnt upset the BE staff)….not smart
At least he didn't lose $8 million like me
Some people might say that winning a fight makes you a better fighter but I don’t agree with that.- BlueberryMuffin
by ufc4 on Jul 23, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck Los Angeles, by the way
Their lack of reaction to that big fat cheater confirmed everything I feared/hated about that city.
When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are in a confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 23, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Says a guy who has Bird Man on their team, and are known as the thuggets.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec’d for hating Los Angeles.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jul 24, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
All this suspense is killing me…We need more info!
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 23, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions
While we’re waiting, let us revel in the strange beauty of……..Magma.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trEUcbABzBQ
Best. Video. Ever.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 23, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions
that was....
uh, I, well, disturbing and strange and funny at the same time.
That’s exactly how I felt the first time I saw it. :)
I wish I could go back and experience it again for the first time. Pure, strange awesomeness.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jul 23, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions
Barnett Issues Statement
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=43407027&blogId=501749323
Thursday, July 23, 2009
My Response
Category: Sports
Many of you are wondering what’s happening. What I can say is that when applying for my license, the CSAC asked for me to submit a urine sample for testing prior to granting my license as they do with everyone, I believe. It was not a random test. I had no reason to believe there would be any issues and went in to submit my sample at the earliest possible opportunity on June 25th. I never once thought there would be a problem.
My representatives and I are working to gather as much info as possible and handle this situation as best as we can. I am embarrassed and want for nothing more than to resolve this issue and receive a license from the State of California as I have done many times already and for other states as well.
I am very thankful for all the great family, friends and fans that still support me.
Sincerely,
Josh
Nick Diaz Says If He Gets A Call From Affliction...
http://graciefighter.com/?page=news&PHPSESSID=7956d43760d63da66ce46fd34370a5be
Affliction: If they call, Nick will fight!
=)
On a lesser note, Ken Shamrock and Don Frye also want the fight.
Don Frye:
“If Tom was smart, he’d have me fighting Fedor instead of whoever he’s hiring on a one week notice,” Frye told MMAInsider. “My phone works if he wants a real fight with someone who sell a fight in four days, somebody who will beat that bald-headed commie too.”
“He ain’t seen anything I have to offer,” continued Frye. “He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes. I’ll bring it. And if he can bring it, you’ll have the best fight you’ve ever seen on the planet.”
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 4:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
God bless that magnificent moustache, and the man attached to it.
What the hell does he think this is, Red Dawn?
by inadvertentgroinstrike on Jul 23, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha!
Yes, bless his Mo. That would be all that is left after the fight.
Still loved the Waffle House Chef quote!
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
"On a lesser note, Ken Shamrock and Don Frye also want the fight."
I have songoku, chuck Norris, and the fat guy from borat also ready for the fight.
This is awesomely ridiculous. New way to look badass: Ask to fight Fedor when there is no chance for the fight to happen.
I fucking love Don Frye.
As I often say: Don Frye is a superhero and a gentleman.
by a tommy point on Jul 23, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Last Update For The Night
If Fedor vs Vitor holds up, then Affliction may get Jake Shields vs Jorge Santiago.
MMAWeekly issued this statement:
Just talked to Jake about an hour ago and he said that Affliction hasn’t contacted his management at all about this fight. He said he’d entertain the offer if they came calling, but for a fight like that on short notice they’d have to offers some $$$
I am out and I appreciate y’alls criticism.
Peace! =)
Apparently alot of people seems to like the belfort vs fedor matchup , abit wierd since belfort was out for a year some time back , because he tested positive for steroid use….lol
I have no problem with the Fedor-Vitor matchup. I just wish they would have found someone else and not fucked up the Vitor-Santiago match in the process.
Exactly, although, a Jake Shields vs Jorge Santiago match-up makes it all better for me.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 23, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
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