Zuffa Sabotaging Affliction?
by coleko on Jul 22, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
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I am starting to get the feeling that Zuffa is doing a lot of shady behind the scenes work as of late. Dana has always been a BS'er but lately it has reached an all time high. He stated on "Inside the octagon" that he was working on getting Belfort than days later denied ever saying it. A few days ago he admitted to the fact that the UFC Heavyweight division use to suck and that he always said that it was bad. I couldn't believe my ears, I am sure most people here clearly remember him bashing the Pride Heavys and pumping Arlovski and Sylvia as studs. Many might not see this as a big deal but to me it shows someone that lies so much that they can no longer keep track of all his BS.
I have to say the Barnett suspension has Zuffa all over it. This is the first time that California has ever done out of competition testing, and it just so happens to be a fighter in the main event of Affliction's most crucial card. Here is why I am thinking that Zuffa knew this coming:
-Before UFC 100 Dana stated that if Barnett beat Fedor, that they would try to sign Barnett, then out of nowhere last week stated that he has no interest in Barnett, because no one is banging on his door to see him fight. Now when he is asked about Barnett I am sure Dana will claim he never wanted anything to do with him.
-At the UFC 100 press conference Dana stated that he wanted Fedor and that eventually he would get him, only days later to bash Fedor in an interview as not being that good. Therefore lowering Fedor's negotiating ability right after giving it a boost at UFC 100.
- Went back on Vitor comments because he saw this fight coming and will have no interest in Vitor after Fedor mauls him.
- After years of Tito and Dana saying that they would never work together they make amends out where with Dana publicly stating that Tito potentially will be in the UFC Hall of Fame. Dana wouldn't let Tito sign autographs at the UFC 100 convention leaving Tito to sign autos at a local Hooters, then all of the sudden they are buddies again? BS. Zuffa knew that the only way Affliction would make this PPV work without Barnett was Tito, and they covered there bases but getting back into his good graces.
- The Cro-Cop ordeal had inside job written all over it. Dana resigned him for a one fight deal not because they had a verbal deal for more fights, but because the UFC was in dire need to sell tickets in Germany. Cro-cop states that he is coming back for a run at the title then before the post-fight press conference its announced that Mirko is re- signing with Dream. Wouldn't he at least wait to leave the building before letting that information out? IMO that was Cro-Cop doing Dana a favor to show all the fans out there why he refuse to do one fight deals.
But then out of no where the Fertitta flys out to Croatia to get Mirko back? Why would he fly across the planet to convince a 2-2 UFC fighter with limited drawing power to come back to the UFC? Another example of tying up a guy who could of helped save the Affliction card.
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1) Dana has always been full of shit, always will be. He’s a promoter, its his job to promote. Doesn’t indicate shady dealings, it indicates that, when he speaks to the media, his job is publicist.
2) All your points revolve around the fact that Dana says one thing, and then says another, or another thing happens. Again, he’s a promoter. Doesn’t indicate shady dealings.
by Foxskinrug on Jul 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dana/Vitor is the same as Arlovski/Affliction, except Dana was dumb enough to make a comment.
Arlovski knew exactly what Affliction’s offer would be while under contract to the UFC. Vitor’s manager knows what the UFC will offer Vitor.
No disrepect to the post writer, but this article reads like it was written by a person wearing a foil hat.
Here’s a picture for your article:
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 22, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
He took a drug test because his license was expired in Cali...It wasn't random...
This is the first time that California has ever done out of competition testing, and it just so happens to be a fighter in the main event of Affliction’s most crucial card.
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Actually…
That’s unconfirmed. The source of that statement was Barnett. CSAC previously stated it WAS the first out-of-competition drug testing. We’re waiting on the press release from the CSAC for details as to which it was. There is a true conflict of quotes.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
um actually...u were wrong...don't hate,,,
" It was not a random test. I had no reason to believe there would be any issues and went in to submit my sample at the earliest possible opportunity on June 25th" from Josh Barnett’s Myspace blog.
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Actually… you were wrong.
Confirmed by the CSAC.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
His credibility at this point should probably be in question.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 23, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was the first OOC test in California
Barnett thought it wasn’t, but it was.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 24, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm yes, it all makes prefect sence now the UFC also had the troll spread the rumours that Kimo was dead so it would get more headlines then affliction. The evil plan all falls into place (que Dana white evil laugh)
on another note are u serious or did u just write this to see what people would say?
I’m serious. Dana is a bullshitter but to pull 180’s on all 3 of the fighters that are involved with the Affliction fiasco, and the 2 fighters that could save Afflictions ass just days before this happens, seems a bit off. It could just be a big coincidence, but personally I think somethings up.
Because EVERYONE thought Vitor Belfort as the replacement before it came out that Affliction was thinking of him…
Dana has no pull at CSAC and it was not a random drug test, as Barnett had to renew his licence in the state after testing positive previously.
Also, I saw a quote somewhere that Barnett thinks he might know how it got into his system, so NOT a tampered test. If someone can show me where I read that, it would be great =-)
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The view from Mars?
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 22, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The UFC secret plan of having enough fighters to fill out major cards in the event one becomes unavailable is clearly insidious. Their double secret plan of letting Affliction latch onto a handful of overpaid stars, then fall apart when even one cannot make a show, is right up there with the firebombing of Dresden.
The whole “we’d be interested in Barnett”…“nobody is banging down my down for Barnett” thing was a bit interesting. Obviously the difference in between those two positions is that he’d have to beat Fedor in between. If he had done that, people would indeed be banging down Dana’s door.
All you need is to add the fact that Dana is a puppet of the British Empire and you’ll fit in perfectly at http://www.larouchepac.com
by thekiltedwonder on Jul 22, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Haha
Those guys went up to me when I was in Portland, and started talking about how sweet Lyndon Larouche was. Then they started singing this weird song, and were talking about how corrupt and fat Al Gore is
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by ElliotMatheny on Jul 22, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This is Dana. You figured out my secret plan. A squad of stealth ninjas have been dispatched to assasinate you. From your tissues a clone will be grown who will assume your identity and mannerisms. This clone will be programmed to love the UFC and write articles reflecting this stance. Don’t try to run or hide, you’ll only make it worse.
Resistance is futile.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
that was a complete waste of time. awful
by Brian Bobby on Jul 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Can anyone site another time in which Dana flipped his stance on 5 different fighters in a matter of a week?
Jon Fitch went from cool, to worst human being alive, to cool again in 24 hours.
Dana called Brock Lesnar a joke and a disgrace and now promotes him as the best heavyweight in the world.
There was an entire Spike special about how much of a bitch Tito Ortiz was. That soap opera has gone on for years.
Kimbo was a joke, and now he’s the face of tough.
I could go on and on. I know this didn’t happen in the same week, but face it, Dana does stuff like this all the time. He spews bullshit and bashes people when it’s convenient for him. Once fighters like Brock or Kimbo can make him some money, Dana welcomes them with open arms. It’s just how he operates. There isn’t a grand conspiracy here or anything.
Dana called Brock Lesnar a joke and a disgrace
Oh hell no. He never said that about Brock, and I’d like for you to show me a source on that quote (if you can).
by N. Rodriguez on Jul 22, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
I thought he gave him a bunch of shit for being a pro wrestler after Dynamite USA but I can’t find a source.
This is ridiculous.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
Can anyone justify flying to Croatia to get Cro Cop back, when he has no name with the casuals and even the hardcores have lost interest in him. Along with pulling a 180 on Tito and 3 fighters he doesnt have in a couple weeks. I think its worth mentioning.
Oh. My. God.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They needed Cro Cop to defend Gina Carano’s unborn son who will lead the resistance in the year 2035 when the machines rise up.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
by Ubernoober on Jul 22, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Amazing.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 23, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Dana is stupid...
And his job is to promote and draw attention to the UFC.
Justified…
Besides…all fighters you mentioned (sans Tito) would earn a title shot with two wins or less, or at least impact two of the more feeble divisions in the UFC.
by B Money on Jul 22, 2009 6:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As has been widely spelled out in numerous articles the reason the UFC is interested in Cro Cop is overseas expansion (you know that rest of the world where he’s still a popular draw). It wasn’t that hard to justify now was it?
by who me on Jul 22, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 22, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."
by Blackout612 on Jul 22, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No. I live in my mothers basement dreaming up conspiracy theories and eating Oreoes. I only come out when it rains.
Anyway in all seriousness I have been working in the film/TV business my whole life and the the stories I have about behind the scene dealings would make your head spin. And I am sure anyone here working in big business would be able to say the same. So anyone thinking that the UFC would be above these practices, just isnt being realistic.
For some reason or another
this made me laugh really hard. +1 rec
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by ElliotMatheny on Jul 22, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So your work in the TV industry led you to believe that the UFC has been toying with signing/not signing fighters in an effort to undermine a company that was on death’s doorstep anyway so they could take a couple of guys out of the mix on the off chance that Josh Barnett would fail a drug test and be denied a license two weeks out? Your big evidence to back this up is that Dana White has stated that he is only interested in signing Josh Barnett if he beats Fedor, he mentioned being interested in Vitor Belfort to fight Anderson Silva a month ago, Tito contacted his former close personal friend Dana White(which doesn’t take Tito out of the mix to fight Fedor) and buried the hatchet and they signed Cro Cop to help as a overseas draw because Cro Cop wanted to go back to the UFC? Do you not see why people think this is crazy talk?
No. I live in my mothers basement dreaming up conspiracy theories and eating Oreoes. I only come out when it rains.
If you had kept it to this then I would have laughed a lot and rec’d you.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jake Shields is hot.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 22, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
The Frank Shamrock Jake Shield’s post was a great fanpost that made no sense, this fanpost is no where near that level.
by Erich Vowell on Jul 22, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahaha
im dying…. rec’d
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by TheViking83 on Jul 23, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The title for this
Should be “My reaction to what Dana said then said he didnt say OMG”
by RicketyCricket on Jul 23, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If this was some great conspiracy, wouldn’t they make it so Fedor tests positive?
barnett tests positive, big deal, someone replaces him, Fedor kills that guy, everyone talks about how great Fedor is for beating so and so with only 10 days notice. Why not just get them to say Fedor tested positive. Fedor (the main draw on the card) is off the show, Dana has a ready made excuse for not signing him because he’s suspended. Barnett fights a replacement, but it won’t be anyone really that highly ranked, and Brock jumps to the top of most HW rankings.
by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Dana White is going to be inducted into the Bilderberg Group?!??!?!?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard that, too.
Did you know that the Fertittas are Reptilians?
by a tommy point on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Goddamit BE.. I love how you guys rec posts.
I still think wargods, sexysassymmafansomething, and this being rec’d has underlying connection.. Maybe it’s zuffa’s fault?
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Brock Lesnar.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
No, that post was recd for a different reason..
And I agree with you. Brock to you to.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 23, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
This is horrible
Some of the worst, ill conceived, paranoid, conspiracy theorist crap I’ve ever heard.
Go back to proving the moon landing was faked.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jul 22, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Jesus Christ. Look, I know Dana can be an asshole and a liar and a hypocrite. I can get on board with that. But let’s not blame him for everything that goes wrong in the universe. It’s not danas fault Michael Jackson died, it’s not Danas fault the stock market crashed and it’s not danas fault my dog shit on the carpet last night. Look, I realize the guy is far from perfect but he’s pretty fucking good at his job overall and in all honesty I doubt he’s given a whole lot of thought to what Affliction is doing, at least at this point in their existance. he’s just waiting for them to go out of business like everyone else. Barnett just happened to put the final nail in the coffin.
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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 11:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I have nothing funny to add to this ridiculous fanpost (which 8 of you rec'd)
So….
BROCK LESNAR!!!!
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I waited on this post
just so I could come back and check all the green awesomeness. Thanks guys.
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I never said he made Barnett juice, but he seemed to know this was going to happen before anyone else. He pulled a 180 on 5 fighters without anything happening in between. Yes he has pulled this before but after something happens, these 180’s came out of nowhere. Seems like I am in the vast minority in thinking this is possible but thats cool.
YOU’RE STILL DEFENDING THIS????
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 23, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
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by Leland Roling on Jul 23, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t “vast minority” an oxymoron?
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You can have a minority that is of a substantial size.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 23, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he guessed because he got booted from the UFC for juicing
Well, maybe not booted but close enough.
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
On the Penn and Teller show on conspiracy nuts, there was a great quote. They said something along the lines of the difference between conspiracy theorists and normal people, is that they look at the same evidence as everyone else, but instead of accepting logical explanations, they draw their own connections to fit in with their preconceived conclusion. They simply can’t accept that sometimes, shit happens. They don’t want to believe that simple things can ruin something great, they want to believe that it takes a great plan.
To this end, I can understand, and even sympathize with coleko.
But seriously man, it is what it is, let it go.
Saying something stupid isn’t necessarily going to get you banned, though I’d caution against testing that.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 23, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
OT back before it’s ‘07 holocaust? Now it’s just Mayberry with slightly more cursing.
by N. Rodriguez on Jul 23, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah ive LOL’d like 18 times going through theses comments. You guys are the best!
by moopwontplay on Jul 23, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this is your brain…. this is your brain on drugs.. any questions?
by sadface on Jul 23, 2009 4:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cro Cop
The reason they flew across the globe to sign CC is simple. You see him as a fighter with liited drawing power but in reality he is a big draw overseas and the UFC is pushing their brand heavily over seas at this point and time.
A fighter with the draw of CC helps to get them into Asia, speciffically Japan.
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I wish the responses were as unique as my post and not a bunch of people copying and diluting the handful of funny things that have been said. I could be wrong but its very foolish to think that you know everything that goes on because you read MMA websites.
It's because your post is ludicrous.
There is no ‘could’ about it. you ‘are’ wrong.
Also, you contradict yourself in your arguments while making a nonsense post, then pat yourself on the back for being unique? Excuse us for not engaging in intelligent discussion with you. I am sure you are familiar with the saying regarding sinking to someone’s level while arguing with them… Consider the rubbish responses as us sinking to your level.
I’ll throw you a bone; Read the part about the Crocop scenario screaming inside job, and then about the emergency flight to Croatia. Pretty much mutually exclusive events, but who knows, maybe I ‘could’ be wrong.
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 23, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just because people haven’t taken the time to pick your poorly researched and sadly written fan post apart doesn’t mean that you have some kind of grand insight into the situation it just means that it’s so silly that people aren’t even bothering to tear you a new asshole for how nonsensical your arguement is. It’s easier to just make fun of you for writing something so nutty.
I will give you points for writing something that got everyone on BE to agree with each other over, that is a real accomplishment even if it is just everyone agreeing that you are completely wrong. Anyone with ten minutes and google could take this apart piece by piece, it wouldn’t be hard to do it’s just that it’s not worth the effort. Next time take off the tinfoil and do a bit of research to at least make sure your post doesn’t contradict itself and actually revolves around a coherent framework. It would probably help if you actually got your facts straight too but then we all wouldn’t of had so much fun at your expense.
by who me on Jul 23, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man, Dana make amends with Pat Miletich too
Maybe part of this diabolical scheme has yet to play out…
I think MMA fans have this all backwards. If this were a mainstream news site and not an MMA site, we’d have 100 posts saying that it’s Bush’s fault… which it is.
Instead of using Vietnam or some piss-poor African nation as a proxy for conflict with the Russians, Bush and and his cronies at Bohemian Grove are waging against Putin and the Russian Illuminati through MMA. They realized that the best way to F with the Russian’s legacy was to put him against sub-par competition. Then, when his negotiating power is diminished, they move him into the UFC to face their boy Lesnar. All this is an elaborate ploy to avoid a nuclear showdown between the US and Russia. When Lesnar wins, Bush can declare total victory over the Russians and serve the third term he so richly deserves.
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by cmsove on Jul 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
You, sir
Just won the internet.
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by Blackout612 on Jul 23, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Years from now I bet we will all be shocked what kind of information comes out. Until then I guess I’ll just be crazy.
Haha Thanks Troy, dont worry I am always entertained by group mentality. This is what you get when you write an actual opinion piece on some sites. Guess I should copy and paste some other sites article about the latest upcoming Jason Brilz fight. :)
well
i think your post was pretty stupid
i just dont want you not posting anymore
he was injured. injured bad.
by troy145 on Jul 24, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Reply button is your friend.
One or two is ok, but every reply?
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by Well Read Idiot on Jul 24, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow the pieces are seeming to fall into place after todays events.
by coleko on Jul 24, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You’re killing me, Smalls.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 24, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
From Kevin Iole:
Affliction itself is fighting simply for survival. Several sources have said that Affliction and Strikeforce will have some type of merger with Strikeforce retaining its name. Affliction’s Tom Atencio denied any merger is imminent, and Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker is in Italy on vacation and couldn’t be reached for comment.
However, two independent sources told Yahoo! Sports a deal is either completed or on the verge of completion.
White said an Affliction attorney flew to Las Vegas only days after UFC 100 and offered to fold and turn its contracts over to the UFC if the UFC would remove its ban on its fighters wearing Affliction T-shirts.
"I told him, ‘I hope you idiots stay in business,’ " White said. "We had a record year in 2007. We had a record year in 2008. And we’re going to have an even bigger record year in 2009. I said, ‘I hope you … stay around in 2010 and burn every dollar you have.’ What they do is of no concern to me."
They all knew this was coming.
EVERYONE knew Affliction was going to go out of business
And that offer was made, BY Affliction, BEFORE any of this happened.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 24, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Apologize to
Your post was still crazy. Affliction failed because they had a horrible business plan.
"He built his whole reputation (as a) waffle house chef. They've been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes." - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Damon O. on Jul 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That is fantastic
coleko, really. This was the culmination of a million things, and about 999,997 of them had nothing to do with Dana White.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 24, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, you're right, I'm sorry
That you wasted your time writing this stupid fucking article.
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