Who Fights Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction: Trilogy?
by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2009 12:50 PM EDT
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In the immortal words of Mr. Mackey, "Drugs are bad, mmmkay?" According to Sherdog, the California State Athletic Commission will refuse to license Josh Barnett for his WAMMA heavyweight title fight against champion Fedor Emelianenko as the result of a "positive test result." Barnett previously tested positive for steroids following his 2002 victory over Randy Couture.
Barnett, for lack of a better phrase, leaves the Emperor without any clothes. With the third Affliction event just 11 days away, Tom Atencio must be scrambling to find a suitable opponent. Names thrown around like Vitor Belfort (a middleweight) and Bobby Lashley (greener than photosynthesis) don't do much to inspire the MMA world.
Who could Affliction pick up in a perfect world? Let's take a look:
- Fabricio Werdum - One of Afflcition's biggest goals should be to find a heavyweight (or big light heavyweight) to replace Barnett. We've already seen Emelianenko fight someone coming up multiple weight classes to fight him, and it wasn't pretty. Werdum seems like the most logical choice. He's a legit heavyweight, he has some exposure from the UFC, and with his August 15th fight with Alistair Overeem being recently canceled, he should be in shape.
- Jeff Monson - Monson is contracted to fight August 29th against Anthony Sylvester for the Rock N Rumble promotion. With the money Affliction "saves" following Barnett's removal, they could pay Monson and the RNR promotion in the event Monson couldn't compete at the end of the month. Monson's stated that he believes he's destined to beat Fedor, and fate works in mysterious ways.
- Brett Rogers - It would make an good human interest piece, if nothing else. Rogers goes from changing tires at Sam's Club to steamrolling former UFC champion to fighting greatest heavyweight of all time. Unfortunately, Emelianenko's chin doesn't crack when you tap it.
- Ben Rothwell/Gilbert Yvel/Paul Buentello - All three are fighting on the card already. Yvel and Buentello face each other and Rothwell's scheduled against Chase Gormley. It would be much easier to slide one of these guys into the main event and find a replacement for the odd man out instead.
- Tito Ortiz - If only for the fact that Tito always finds his name on these sorts of lists. Tito's expressed interest in a fight with Emelianenko on occasion, though I imagine much of that is posturing. This would give him an opportunity to put the proverbial money where his mouth is, though I would expect that money would run in the seven figure range.
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Scrap the event...
Save yourself all the money, 10 days out… before you get all the production building companies in… scrap the event.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
won’t they still owe $ to the Honda Center?
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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably, but it’s better than blowing millions on a ridiculous payroll. Their big main event is scrapped. Anything other than Fedor vs. Barnett is a huge step down.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But how many people really won’t buy this because Josh Barnett’s off the card?
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
excellent point. i’d imagine a good portion of the people who’d pay for this card are mainly interested in seeing fedor smash whoever they put in front of him. not like the barnett fight was expected to be a grueling war.
by woooburn on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on Fedor’s opponent.
Honestly, I don’t know how well their marketing campaign is doing. I would say not well, but they also have some pretty prominent rumors that they almost did 150k in buys in the last event. Still doesn’t help because their payroll was enormous.
I think there are quite a few people who will be bummed and not buy it.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s just me, but I think the only people that care about Barnett being out are hardcore fans that will probably buy the event anyway.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll watch the event for Mousasi vs. Babalu. Great battle there, but I wanted to see Belfort vs. Santiago too. Belfort vs. Fedor is ridiculous IMO.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally, I would recommend Werdum, I think it’s still a good fight.
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many were going to buy in the first place? How many were going to buy because of Barnett?
Not many
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who actually buys these anyway
as opposed to going to a bar and watching it for free or for $5 at most? Maybe I’m spoiled having lots of bars around that show the fights.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jul 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t find a place nearby to watch the fights, but then again I live out in the “country”
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can find UFC events easy but finding any other MMA PPV? Id love to know where.
by Rabbit915 on Jul 22, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by subo on Jul 22, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. It makes sense cause Affliction was on their way out anyway. Why not save themselves millions of dollars? They know they’ll never recoup, cause their PPV is shot to shit now. I bet Dana White is shitting his pants laughing so hard right now.
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by pud333 on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affliction is going down in flames
So just blow the rest of your money on Tito. He can actually move the interest /PPV meter in your favor a little.7 figures?
Since when has fighter payroll ever stopped Affliction from doing anything? If, Tom A had any hair it would all be pulled out by now. What a mess with only 10 days to go before the fight card
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by ultmma on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito was just cleared to train at the begining of this month…
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by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Tito is “old school,” he could spin it as knowing that he has hardly any chance, but “manning up” to face the #1 fighter in the world. He could ride that Underdog Appeal all the way to the Bank…with a brief stopover at the Hospital.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
from a fight standpoint, i’d like to see Monson get the crack at Fedor. i like the way both guys fight, and you know Monson’s in shape since he fights every two weeks or so.
by bobthewriter on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, everyone on that list gets trounced by Fedor. Monson’s stand-up is god awful, and he’s still had some gas tank issues in his last few fights. Sure, he’s strong, but I could see Fedor’s overhand right blasting him pretty quickly in the first round.
The best fight is Werdum, hands down.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're probably right
but Werdum just makes me go “meh.” of course, so did Barnett.
by bobthewriter on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost anyone but Lesnar makes me go “meh..”
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whereas Lesnar makes you drool.
And it’d be nice to see him fight Fedor. :-)
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still say
Randy vs. Fedor is the matchup i really want to see. :-) so let’s hope affliction folds soon and Fedor signs with Zuffa.
by bobthewriter on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why randy would get punished hes over the hill. That fight would have been good maybe 2 years ago.
by JaTinkles on Jul 22, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I won’t lose faith in Randy until he looks REALLY old. Eating one punch from Brock does not make you a worse fighter.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and it was more of a clip of Brock’s elbow to the back of Randy’s head – not exactly questionable as to why Randy went down – but the hammerfists Brock applied did not knock Randy out – he was simply overwhelmed by the hammerfists
Randy came out of that fight looking a lot better than Frank and had an awesome gameplan – I’d rather see Brock rematch Randy than Frank anyday
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was still a punch, and it hit the same general area as Serra/GSP. Randy may not have been knocked out, but he was definitely done after the hammer fists, he had no equilibrium whatsoever.
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by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way
It’s too soon to say that Randy is old and washed up. He looked really good before that hit when he was fighting Brock, and looked amazing against Tim and Gonzaga.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His performance was good, however he looked really really old. Though that makes me wonder if his sponsor shirt had a large collar intentionally to give that impression.
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by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either that or he just has a really bad sense of fashion.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back at DoR, I was rooting for Yvel, because I wanted to see Affliction try to promote him against Fedor. Looks like I might get my wish.
If I’m Fedor, I want nothing to do with any of those fights. Losing to any of them would cost him millions, if not tens of millions in future earnings.
by Jahbulon on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My vote is for Werdum strictly from a fan and realist perspective. My fantasy vote is for Tito, cause it would be awesome. However, if Tito was serious about mending fences with Dana and coming back to the UFC, he’d be stupid to take the fight, considering Afflictions lifespan has just been cut incredibly short, and he’d mess up his chances of finishing out his career in the Octagon. Last thing Tito wants is to be erased from the UFC history books like so many other fighters. But then again, Tito has been known to hog more than his fair of stupidity over the years…
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by pud333 on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, according to the poll a lot of people want to see Tito get smashed!
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hence why Tito is a draw.
People love to hate him, and that poll proves it.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tito’s not jumping on that sinking ship…..
not when he has 1 foot on the UFC helicopter……
by Cut-Paste on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody said he was.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed – he’s not a smart guy, but he’s smart enough not to do that.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think more people would buy the ppv with Tito fighting Fedor than with Josh Barnett as his opponent.
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree…but how would they get the word out?
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You kidding?
All those cab signs in NYC… shit would be everywhere in 20 minutues… pfft.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a great opportunity to use Twitter to promote a fight
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana White is the Twitter MMA champion.
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by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point kinda – I am going off of how Affliction tried to use NASCAR as a promotional tool and we know how that went, but with Twitter it’s cheaper and you have a much larger audience – they are probably spent on the marketing side of this fight card so Twitter seems like an alternative that would benefit Affliction
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Tito could have Jenna promote it on her Twitter.
That sounded dirty…
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yvel for comedy’s sake. And for how crappy Barnett did against him.
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by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Werdum since he was getting ready for a fight and it would probably be interesting anyways.
If he was training I wouldn’t mind seeing Brett Rogers fight Fedor since there is a possibility he could KO Fedor.
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by The Legend on Jul 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I voted for Rogers too…although I see Tito’s appeal.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also voted Rogers. The rest don't have the appeal that Rogers does
He’s twice the size and speed of most in their HW division. The turning point for me was when he defeated Arlovski. I don’t think he’d make the same mistake as Andre did if he got to fight Fedor. In fact, I think it would make the event rather salvagable. Being as how Overeem is out and Barnett disqualified, there looks like a potential matchup to be had.
I hope it happens for Rogers.
by JAYGK95 on Jul 22, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they had two weeks to promote it, Tito would be the right move.
But a week out, I think Rogers, Werdum, and Monson are the best options, with Rogers leading in my eyes based on the momentum from the Arlovski win.
Remember, Brett Rogers fought on that same Strikeforce-based Affliction infomercial, and I’d suspect that a big part of Afflictions audience crosses over with Strikeforce anyway.
Besides, the fight is short notice against the #1 Heavyweight in the World. A Puncher’s Chance is all a guy would have…why not pick the biggest puncher on the list?
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ugh… I could see Rogers getting subbed in 10 seconds.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because, of course, us never seeing the man’s submission defense proves that he has none.
He’ll last longer than Sylvia did, because he has a better chin.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except he hasn’t fought ANYONE who has a grappling game but Arlovski, and AA didn’t try to grapple. He got clobbered instantly. Fedor could probably change levels and break his leg in 10 seconds because Brett just comes forward.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he’s unknown with real power. I’d give him a punchers chance, where some of these other guys I’d give nothing.
For Rogers, its a no lose too.
by SES 84 on Jul 22, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theres no such thing as a punchers chance against Fedor. Maybe a chance of cutting him but thats about it.
by Rabbit915 on Jul 22, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why didn't you include the 2 guys being talked about in the list? (belfort, lashley)
And I still vote for Seth the Promotion Killer.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 22, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Monson
just because I really like to watch the guy fight. Fedor has no problem attacking people where they’re strongest, and watching him and Monson roll around would be entertaining as a bag of fun.
by rzor on Jul 22, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is exactly why I voted Monson
Also because you know what you will get with Monson. He’s always in shape, always fights to his strengths, and always busts his ass.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Jul 22, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Where is Shaq and Igor Vovchanchyn?
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also: KIMO! Imagine the commercials:
“Our promotion is dead, but KIMO ISN’T!!”
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
“Barnett Out, Kimo Out of the Coffin… Kimo vs. Fedor”
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimo isn't dead, UNTIL he gets in the ring with Fedor
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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Also: doe he stand a better chance of beating a piss test than Barnett? :-)
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted Werdum- had he not gotten blasted by Cigano, this fight would be pretty appealing, but I still think he’s the most credible and ready-to-go guy on the list.
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by SMC on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It really isn’t a matter of “you think”… he IS the only ready-to-go guy because he was training for Alistair. I’d say Rogers has probably been relaxing a bit. Monson is probably ready to go too, but Werdum is probably the closest to peaking and being legit to fight Fedor.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man you’re angry. But you’re right, it was obvious to me the more appealing & realistic choice here was werdum, and maybe manson, cause I got no idea if he is busy but I’m sure he would take the fight, I still prefer wardum.
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, how am I angry? I’m just looking at it realistically. The most ready-to-go guy is Werdum by far. He was already training for a Heavyweight tilt with Alistair Overeem, who’s HUGE.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet, you miss the word “credible” from the original post. It can be argued that Rogers, who beat Arlovski, a man who defeated Werdum, is more credible than Werdum is. Thus, it is a matter of what one “thinks.”
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by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A man who beat Werdum because neither fighter did anything at all. I don’t think AA’s win over Werdum proves anything.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it proved that open hand slapping is a dumb plan for an MMA fight against a guy who is punching you with a closed fist.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL, this is true. Although.. now that I remember. AA looked visibly rocked by the slap… could have been a true sign of his weak chin.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not…but we’re talking about certainty versus doubt. ONE can argue that Arloviski’s ranking is enhanced by a win over Werdum, while Rogers’ ranking is enhanced by a win over Arlovski. Thus, Werdum is arguably less credible than Rogers is.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like mmamath
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And all that Rogers win over Arlovski proves is that Arlovski has a weak chin and Rogers has good hands.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weak chin or poor defense and bad footwork?
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Rothwell.
I don’t see anyone on the list beating Fedor, so I figure why waste Rogers who’s not ready for a fight like that at all, Werdum is probably more deserving but would get smashed, so why not Rothwell. He’s a veteran pro with good skills. He should at least be able to put up a decent fight before Fedor puts him away.
by McEwen on Jul 22, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, they’re not really “wasting” Rogers, because they’re not his promoter. It’s really “no lose” for Rogers, because all he has to do is last longer than Sylvia, and he’s scored a moral victory in fans’ eyes.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Affliction wouldn’t be wasting him, but his management might be. Unless the $$$ on the table is unbelievable, I can’t see him taking that fight on 10 days notice. He’s just not ready.
I would be curious to see it though, to be 100% honest.
by McEwen on Jul 22, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your point- that matchup just seems especially difficult to sell due to the beating Arlovski put on em’.
"He hit like a bitch."
by SMC on Jul 22, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think ANY of these are easy sells at all, let alone 10 days out. But you do make a good point.
by McEwen on Jul 22, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roger looked better against AA than Fedor did. I know the guy was concentraiting on boxing, but still… thats why he got my vote.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 22, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL, how is that even comparable? How?
Fedor stood, tried to time and calculate AA.
Rogers just came forward and blasted AA.
In my mind, the fights really aren’t even comparable. You can’t really take too much out of the AA fight vs. Rogers other than the fact that AA makes massive mistakes.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think one can take that lesson from both fights.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can at all. I don’t think you can compare both fights and take something away from them to say that Rogers LOOKED better against AA than Fedor.
Rogers came forward and caught AA instantly. I just don’t see how the fights are comparable. The only comparison I can make is that AA makes huge mistakes. Open chin vs. Fedor and Rogers.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AA makes massive mistakes.
This is the lesson one should take from both fights is what I’m saying.
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by Rundownloser on Jul 22, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope you didnt take my post seriously enough to think I ment Rogers has a shot… it was more thats how they could sell the match up.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 22, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Rogers… but I’d be happy with Werdum as well.
by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ARLOVSKI
tom atencio shouldn’t have shitted on arlovski. i don’t care about all your fair weather fans BS about arlovski’s chin, because i think we all know if andrei hadn’t gone for that flying knee it would’ve been a whole different story. he won’t make the same mistake twice. it would’ve ended up being a mirror fight of buentello/baby fedor. AA/Fedor II. DO IT.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“If Barnett is out, should Affliction dump the card?” – 79 articles
by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"One can assume that Barnett tested positive for some form of performance enhancing drugs…"
Yes, one can, but responsible journalists won’t.
A better way to write this would have been:
The California State Athletic Commission will refuse to license Josh Barnett for his WAMMA heavyweight title fight against champion Fedor Emelianenko as the result of a “positive test result;” Barnett was previously popped for steroids following his 2002 victory over Randy Couture.
This could be coke. This could be meth. We don’t know. Acting like because he did one drug one time means he’ll do the same one this time is a leap of inference.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does the blood of the innocent show up on drug tests?
by ryanwk628 on Jul 22, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I went ahead and changed it.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for taking the comment in the spirit it was intended in, Mike.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He went ahead and changed it…and is now driving to your house to break your legs.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case I rescind the above and lock my front door.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 22, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I debated it for awhile. Maybe it’s just my lenient stance on steroids/PED’s, and I just didn’t think it was that harmful of a statement. But, people go nuts when steroids pops up, so I figure it’s best to play “responsible journalist” this time.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t think it matters.
If he tested positive for viagra and that was on the banned list it doesn’t matter. He tested positive for a banned substance, he can’t fight, that’s all that matters.
by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it’s marijuana or some painkillers, It’s not professional, it’s clearly bad, but not steroid bad. Testing positive for roids for the 2nd time should end his chances to return in high profile organizations.
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sham-WOW!
Imo, this is a huge blow on many levels.
-to Affliction. This is THE fight that many fans have wanted for years and without it, the card is severely weakened. I am probably not going to order it now, though I will wait to see who they put in against Fedor.
-to Fedor. This is the win that would silence many of his doubters (not myself, I’m no doubter!). The #2 ranked HW and top opponent available. Now who can he fight that would add that legitimacy?
-to the fans. This truly is a fight that we have wanted to see since the Pride days and it was sooooo close.
But there are a few winners…
-whomever replaces Barnett. Here is your golden ticket. Go beat the man and you will have a lot of doors opened for you.
-Dream. If Barnett IS done in the USA, I think there still is some demand for this fight and Dream is the most likely place.
-UFC. The widely considered top opponent for Fedor outside of the UFC is now out. Just a little more incentive for Fedor to come to the UFC and one less guy the UFC needs to take off the market so he doesn’t have quality opponents.
So who is out there:
Werdum-fair or not, he has a bad reputation as boring and isn’t a very attractive ppv option.
Overeem-This is the fight I want to see, but injury has him out of the picture for now.
Rogers-Does Strikeforce want to see their guy demolished? And yes, he would get demolished.
CC-Lots of demand for this fight. Great timing by the UFC.
Monson-Again, one of the fights I want for Fedor. Makes the most sense to me, but again is Monson enough of a draw?
Rothwell/Yvel/Buentello-As fun as these guys can make an undercard, they have little appeal vs Fedor, imo.
Arlovski/Sylvia-No thanks.
Tito-Interesting. A draw. Unfortunately Tito isn’t ready and I think he is smart enough not to lower his stock by taking a beatdown at this point in his career.
The obvious choice…Ray Mercer!!
Actually, in all seriousness, I say get Ricardo Arona on the phone ASAP.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 22, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Werdum, Arona, Monson are my picks!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will crush Fedor. Come on, look at his ads.. they’re everywhere.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
wow
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 22, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’ll second this fight, just break the wrist and walk away!
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grab my arm, the other arm, MY other arm
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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
But there needs to be a special concession that allows him to wear those pants…otherwise no dice.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“…And Nobody Wants a Roundhouse Kick to the Face When I’m Wearing These Bad Boys!”
by bignerd on Jul 22, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the more I think about it, this is EXACTLY the kind of fight that Tito could take and end up smelling like a rose. He “saves” the card, looking like a warrior in the process, he can take credit for the ENTIRE buyrate, and even if he gets smashed, he has the “short notice” excuse to save face, not to mention fighting up a weight class.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I said it in the other threat, but I think Tito and Dana’s reconciliation puts this out the window.
If this happened 2 weeks ago, game on for Tito, but now that he’s finally realized that the UFC is his best bet, and both he and Dana have agreed to try and work it out. I’m not sure if Affliction can offer enough money to make up the possibility that he’s throwing away with the UFC by taking the fight.
by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But who wants to get punched in the face
A hard hit can really set you back quite awhile to recover. Its easy to forget that he actually needs to deal with getting punched in the face….HARD.
A submission loss though, that could work.
by SES 84 on Jul 22, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on guys......
Clearly we all should have seen this coming. No promotion doesn’t have its fair share of battles. Ufc always loses fighters. Remember ufc 85? Affliction should just recognize there on the way out and just find the highest ranked heavyweight available and see If he wants to fight.
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by xtremecouture on Jul 22, 2009 11:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is a 0% possibility. He’s undefeated and actually has established some name worth with the AA knockout. If you think he’d be dumb enough to take a fight with the best fighter on the planet on short notice you’re wrong
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The potential upside is huge though. Its the type of thing your management shouldn’t let you do. Strikefore probabiy wouldn’t either, but if you a confident fighter then you think about the big time
by SES 84 on Jul 22, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
it’s not being a confident fighter. It’s that he wouldn’t have had a training camp. Like I’m sure he’d strongly consider it if it were 2 months out or whatever. But 10 days, the last few of which you won’t even get to train?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Its the type of thing your management shouldn’t let you do"
isn’t he managed by pavia?
sayin’
by woooburn on Jul 22, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pavia seems to be pushing for this.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the UG:
Jorge Santiago has been contacted. Vitor is likely fighting Fedor so they need to find him a diff opponent
by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, Vitor probably cuts down to 185 from what? 205 possibly? So he’ll gain a little weight in 10 days, probably won’t be as fast, or as big.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
he’ll be “bulking up” at the last minute which means…bloating
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…or a better class of steroids than Barnett’s.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On SI Shawn Tompkins said he expects Vitor to be in the ring at 215
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by The Legend on Jul 22, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An organization depending on one fighter, a short notice opponent, nothing to win and everything to lose, déjà vu?
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is why some people are calling for Seth to step in
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now all we need is for Fedor to lose and Belfort to say that Tommy paid for him to stay standing.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that wouldn’t mean much since Vitor is a stand up fighter but I appreciate your attempt
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if they payed him to pull guard?
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that is interesting and spectacular – I like it – make it happen Captain
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll make some calls
Can’t make any promises though
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recommend chong li’s blinding powder, the only way for commoners to beat Frank Dux level opponents.
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta pounce though..
can’t blind the guy and then give him 5 minutes to have flashbacks, scream and move his hand around
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, after you get kicked, you can’t stand dead still in agony like a stone sculpture. You must immediately move to defend.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic!! Fedor is fighting a Middleweight.
Imagine if Dana White put on Brock Lesnar vs. Nathan Marquardt…. The internet would crash at the number of angry MMA fans.
This is no different. Fedor needs to be fighting Heavyweights. And credible ones.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 22, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you mean Brock Lesnar vs. Anderson Silva?
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silva’s the promotion’s best middleweight, has fought at Light Heavyweight, and has talked about fighting a Heavyweight…just like Vitor.
Plus, I suspect that if Brock vs. Silva were booked, the internet would crash, washed away by a geyser of hardcore fans’ sweat, tears, and ejaculate.
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, I meant Nathan Marquardt. Vitor is about the equivalent of Marquardt. I say that nicely, because Nate would likely beat him up pretty badly, but it’s still a decent equivalent. Perhaps I should have said Brock Lesnar vs. Michael Bisping….
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marquardt is more credible than belfort IMO...
Oh wait, even the consensus agrees with me.. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only screwy thing is how highly ranked Belfort is. Guess there’s some traction in beating up old politicians.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
that’s the thing.
Fedor (#1 heavyweight) vs. Belfort (#9 middleweight)
Compare that to say…
Lesnar vs. Hendo or Mir vs. Marquardt or whatever…it just sounds ridiculous. But those are technically better fights from a “standing in their relative division” perspective.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you put it into that context…
Fedor vs. Belfort sounds absolutely insane, and shouldn’t even be sanctioned.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar vs. Hendo
Didn’t someone seriously talk about that fight a week ago?
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they can’t get anybody from outside the card, he should be fighting Paul Buentello….
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 22, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If weve learned one thing this week its definately “Dont trust anything from the UG”
by Rabbit915 on Jul 22, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bartnet out..shiiit.
I voted for Rogers as well. Awesome punching power, and would really give Fedor a challange in the stand up section. Not saying he is totally on point, but I think he is the best option.
If it wen’t to the ground though you can bet Fedor would break a limb somewhere. But I expected that from Josh as well. Sad thing he is out and his career is pretty much finished.
Tito? LOL. No. I can’t believe so many people voted for him..
by MSEMCEE on Jul 22, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CRO COP!
How pissed do you think Mirko is right now. If he didn’t sign with Zuffa two weeks ago he would be lined up for that rematch he has been chasing for 4 years. He would have gotten destroyed, but still….
As far as choices, I vote for a Arlovski rematch or Ricardo Arona.
by Nick Travaglini on Jul 22, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arona would be interesting...
Although his long layoff and fighting pitbulls (or getting into knife fights) would probably deter him.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a fight lined up for Amauro Bittetti’s promotion in Brazil in September I believe. I am sure he is in some kind of shape and dying to prove that he actually did beat him the first time they fought.
Side note, I scored that fight for Arona as well.
by Nick Travaglini on Jul 22, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ray mercer, Brett Rodgers, Bobby lashely three round tag team vs Fedor. They each get one round to KO the emperor
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The three of them could be in the ring together against Fedor and I would still pick Fedor.
by Nick Travaglini on Jul 22, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Got a call in to one of the CSAC officials who will be contacting me back shortly. Trying to find out if they’ll be willing to sanction Belfort/Fedor. Update to follow.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god the purpose of Fedor fighting is to silence critics not to give them more fodder about him fighting middle weights and washups!
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly just want to know the CSAC stance...
I don’t want to hear “Vitor agreed to take the fight but the CSAC said now and now the show is canceled” If I can get a scoop on it…I’ll do so
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just sad because i have tickets to go… but at least ill see Mousasi the next fedor and Gomi
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question should be is who does Fedor want to fight? Does he want to fight Vitor? How does fighting Vitor benefit him?
Is he simply going to fight anyone because either way it goes he will be paid regardless?
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he simply going to fight anyone because either way it goes he will be paid regardless?
Finkie has already been paid so he probably wants the easiest fight for Fedro.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can someone PLEASE tell me how Barnett is the No. 2 HW???
Thank you.
by Lewish on Jul 22, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, some rankings will drop him now. The Independent World MMA Rankings will drop him from the ranking altogether.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because frank mir was beat by brandon vera and Brock has only 4 wins. Two of which was a 45 year old man the other to the gate keeper Heath herring.
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That did not answer my question in any way, shape, or form.
So I’ll repeat it for you: Can someone PLEASE tell me how Barnett is the No.2 HW?
by Lewish on Jul 22, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because He's fighting Fedor
Duh :-p
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he’s fighting Fedor. That’s the only reason.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OR rather, he’s not fighting him, so he can drop back to 17 now.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank You.
That’s all I needed to hear.
by Lewish on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction, he will drop and still be in the top 10.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of places drop him all together if this test is for steroids.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be interesting to see what happens. Sherk fell, but, he was always hovering around the top 10 mark.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was also Sherk’s first positive test, and for some crazy reason a bunch of people thought he was clean.
Barnett? Not so much.
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s because the Nandrolone level was somehow deemed attainable naturally by a ton of people because of his training regiment. The Nagano study somewhat blew that whole possibility out of the water.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this begs the question of how steroids show affect your ranking? Do we count his Couture win or not? Do we assume hes’s been using Steroids all along.
by SES 84 on Jul 22, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no and yes. Once a cheater always a cheater imo
by JaTinkles on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they should affect your ranking but I don’t think we have seen that in the past for example Sherk was not ranked any lower when he tested positive for steroids
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on criteria. MMAWeekly drops your ass for a year.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn’t testing positive for a fight, and testing positive before a fight count differently in your ranking though?
by madiq on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once your caught twice, its hard to assume you didn’t juice for past fights.
by SES 84 on Jul 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vitor Belfort, Bobby Lashley, Brett Rogers, Fabricio Werdum, Jeff Monson, and Ricardo Arona are the four opponents being considered by Affliciton as opponents for Fedor.
Ricardo Arona, Jeff Monson, and Fabricio Werdum are my two choices.
Last resort = Vitor Belfort.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow – something is wrong with EVERYONE’s counting. :-)
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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno if I had to pick just one I would say Werdum or Belfort. But really all five would be good.
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by starvin on Jul 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimo can fight Fedor!!!! Although the rumors of his death wont be false after fighting fedor.
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck it, give me a couple hundred grand and I’ll fight the son of a bitch. He can’t be that tough right?
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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 12:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
'It's only 15 minutes, whats the worst that could happen...'
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
’It’s only 1 or 2 minutes, whats the worst that could happen…’
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 22, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s a rec!
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in...
I train. Why not?
10k and I’ll fight him (oh…and my medical bills being covered afterward as well)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how much is face reattachment surgery running these days?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try to high five at least once maybe you will get a FOTN to fix your broken body.
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll do it for five
But I need to have AFLAC approved first.
by Captain7 on Jul 22, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should be allowed to use steroids if you fight fedor its only fair.
by pandaboy99 on Jul 22, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
http://www.cbssports.com/local/dc/schedules/lavar-arrington-show
CHad dukes is gonna have dana white on at the top of the show, Theyll surely bring this whole thing up.
by JaTinkles on Jul 22, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait...that's happening today?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea top of the show according to Dukes’ Twitter.
by JaTinkles on Jul 22, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Mike Straka at Fox News it’s steroids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ninUN8VoY
by jm074 on Jul 22, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Straka is an idiot, and he may just be saying steroids because he heard “positive test”
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna put it on the front page...
he claims sources…which is good enough.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JOURNALISM! YAAAAY!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick beat me to the punch
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t take Straka seriously when it comes to anything MMA, but he may be legitimately good at finding out stories. After watching some episodes of Fight Game, and both him and some of the panelists making outrageous claims or errorneous statements, I can’t take it.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
he gets scoops. But he isn’t great with…um…facts
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or opinions
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m definitely not on board with his opinion to move Ortiz into the mix. 10 days to promote it? No way… Ortiz will need a huge paycheck to take it. And Ortiz will be alone in self-promoting it, Fedor doesn’t help.
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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I was looking forward to this match, but now that it’s canceled I realize I not really did. Or is it because the positive test kinda insta killed Barnett’s relevance?
by spectaa on Jul 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, this is horrible news. I feel bad for the affliction guys.
My vote is for Rogers, he has wrestling and fists of fury, and isn’t afraid of anything. It’s about achieving the ‘american dream’, and the 1% rocky style chance he has at beating him is story enough to convince me to watch it.
Vitor doesn’t sound like a great idea, he’s been proven to not be top caliber… rogers just hasn’t. He’s beaten everyone in front of him, including the pitbull, in less time than fedor.
by p0wn on Jul 22, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if this will piss Fedor off, in terms of their friendship if it is steroids.
Because it shows that he would try to deceive the general public to obtain an advantage against someone he considered a friend in a fight, which is a pretty scumbag thing to do overall.
Worst news for Affliction ever.
The UFCs had a good habit lately of locking up heavyweight prospects, but Affliction would be better off putting Fedor against a heavyweight instead of a middleweight.
If Fedor lost to Vitor, it would be awful, Kimbo/Seth style of awful.
It really is too bad that Overeem is injured, I think he is the best freelance heavyweight out there to challenge Fedor.
by DirtyML on Jul 22, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A guy I follow on twitter...
Just said Vitor Belfort is Josh’s replacement.
twitter.com/1045mma
The guy is Chris Pappas out of Nashville, TN. Hosts a local MMA radio show on 104.5 The Zone.
by jrobb20 on Jul 22, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope...
check the front page. CSAC has yet to be contacted. They haven’t even had to consider if they’ll sanction it
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why dont they just have them all fight fedor, that might me a challange to him!?!?
by mma is #1 on Jul 22, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rogers would be great....
Subbed in 10 seconds or possibly KOing Fedor. I’d want to see which happens. Tito would be fine too. Nothing outside of Lesnar could substitute for Barnett.
by Dexerion on Jul 22, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
King Mo
said he could beat Brock yesterday on the jason ellis show… give him a warm up fight with Fedor.
by ryanwk628 on Jul 22, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Affliction 4: Juiced
Josh Barnett v. Jose Canseco
by ryanwk628 on Jul 22, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They could make it a HW Tournament with Sylvia vs Bigfoot as the other semi
by StevenGiles on Jul 22, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
No Randy Couture wearing a Mexican wrestling mask?
by bignerd on Jul 22, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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