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Josh Barnett's Positive Drug Test a Potentially Crippling Blow for Affliction?

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As reported earlier it appears that Josh Barnett has tested positive in a CSAC pre-fight screening and as such will be forced out of his fight on August 1 against Fedor Emelianenko.  The latest update on the situation from MMAWeekly gives more info on the current status of the situation:

Additional sources told MMAWeekly.com that while middleweight Belfort had agreed in principle to step up two weight classes to face Emelianenko, he had not yet fully committed to the fight and was weighing his options Tuesday evening. However, the search for a potential replacement for Belfort is also underway.

There are two important things to consider given the situation.  First being that you can expect Josh to never have another regulated fight in America.  This is his second positive drug test - the first coming during post-fight testing following his UFC Heavyweight Title win over Randy Couture in 2002.  I would think that one has to have significant doubts that Barnett has fought clean at any point since then as most of his fights were taking place in Japan outside of promotions with comprehensive drug testing policies.  He did fight twice in the U.S. for Affliction in 2008 and did not test dirty but at the very least he has established a pattern where in the biggest fights of his career where testing was present he returned a positive sample.

Now one has to wonder what this does for the future of Affliction fight promotions.  While there have been rumors that this would be the last event Affliction promoted there have also been rumors that some in the organization were confident that fight promotion would continue and that certain fighters were being offered extensions on their current contracts.  With this fight between the #1 and #2 ranked heavyweights in the world according to the SB Nation/USA Today Consensus Rankings being cancelled it represents a massive blow to Affliction's future promotional hopes.  To lose such a high profile fight on short notice will most likely lead to a drop in PPV buys which is something Affliction can't afford given the large contracts they are holding for their fighters.

Belfort as a replacement is far from an ideal situation.  He holds some name value from his time in the UFC but at the same time, he is a middleweight.  The best heavyweight in the world (and probably the history of the sport) facing a highly ranked guy who fights at 185 is a really tough sell.  Just ask Bodog about that one.

The other potential option being bounced around was Bobby Lashley.  Lashley represents some better name value from his time in the WWE, but he is also the guy who got about all he could handle from Jason Guida 4 months ago.  It's not really a competitive fight and it reporesents an almost unreal step up in competition for Lashely.

Many fans have been asking if Fabricio Werdum may be able to step in following Alistair Overeem's removal from the Strikeforce show on August 15.  While Werdum represents a heavyweight option who has been actively training he also represents a fighter who was knocked out in brutal fashion in his last fight.  What little name value he carried with the American audience was sent sailing into the rafters of Allstate Arena riding piggyback on his jawbone following a Junior Dos Santos uppercut.

We'll see if Affliction can pull a rabbit out of the hat with this one but this positive test by Barnett represents a serious blow to not only this show, but the promotion's entire future.

UPDATE 1:  MMA Fanhouse has the following from Atencio himself:

When asked if the August 1 MMA card was off, Atencio said only, "Him and Fedor is off."

Asked whether the Affliction: Trilogy card at the Honda Center in Anaheim was still going on as planned on August 1, Atencio answered, "At this point, yes."

Atencio gave a terse "no comment" when asked whether a Sherdog report that Vitor Belfort and Bobby Lashley were the two potential opponents for Fedor on August 1. He also declined to speculate on whether a deal could be worked out to have Fabricio Werdum, whose August 15 fight with Alistair Overeem was canceled yesterday, might be Fedor's opponent.

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do we know for sure it is positive drug test?

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weekly and Junkie

have both confirmed with the CSAC.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but not what he tested postive for. it could be a masking agent like rogaine or something

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell it could even be marijuana

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet it was positive for THC. Didn’t the twiiter quotes they do here have one where he said he was smoking some hash about a week or two ago?

by MusicCityBeatdown on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm...

well…if it wasn’t a PED then I will take that part of my article about doubting he has fought clean since COuture back. but at the very least he deserves to never fight in the US again if he has one positive test and thinks it makes any sense at all to do anything involving a substance that gets tested for

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it probably is a PED test but I will say this. Isn’t Cali suppose to be broke right now? How can they afford to have state drug tests?

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure the CSAC has an annual budget and they allocated a lot of it to testing. including pre-fight

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just trying to be cute

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, they charge fighters and promoters for licenses to defray costs.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

they charge them ALOT

and those expenses; surety loans, minimum insurance coverage, promoter’s licenses – are only getting more expensive. Its a wonder any first time promoters ever even bother starting in a commissioned state.

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cooking hash could mean corned beef hash.

That’s the way I read it.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it really matter though? No matter what it is it’s something that is against the rules.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

well if it is an accidental masking agent, like rogaine, then I think it matters

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To a degree...

if you’re fighting in the states you know the kind of shit that could make you pop a positive. They go over it with you. If he was on rogaine i’m sure his defensive statements to this point would be more of a “I’m on rogaine so this may be a false positive” rather than “um…nuh uh!”

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well with his Tweet awhile back about going to the tanning salon it wouldn’t surprise me if he was using rogaine.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was spray-tan. Thus, more likely a hairpiece than rogain. :-)

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Werdum would be the best sporting option

but he’s a no go as far as saving the PPV.
Sucks to see Belfort and Santiago get messed up too.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're wrong...

Shaquille O’Neal… enough said.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the way you think

that is some promoter carnie mojo right there.
But um doesn’t Shaq have something else going on right now?

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by Kid Nate on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does he?

he’s been challenging people left and right, told Dana he wanted Brock!

He’s got a show coming up called “Shaq Vs.” where he just competes with people like de la Hoya and other big name sports stars at their sports. This can be the pilot! :D

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Jul 22, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean, if anything...

we’re a step closer to getting Fedor to the UFC? Or nahh?

"He hit like a bitch."

by SMC on Jul 22, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think we are a step closer to Affliction bowing out gracefully

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gracefully? You’re hopeful :)

by brad23 on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey

I am a positive guy

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well let’s say Affliction shuts down the week/month following this show- very likely. Does Fedor open up to UFC chats, or down he fight exclusively for M-1?

"He hit like a bitch."

by SMC on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt Finkie ever drops his demands from the UFC.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he might have to.

When there is no one left willing to meet his demands, he’ll have to give in.

If Affliction isn’t there, who would do it? I really don’t see some new group forming and trying to build a new org around fedor, it hasn’t been a good move so many times in the past, it seems like it would be stupid to try again.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Finkie would rather drop the parasite act and go solo as a promoter. He will not get paid either way.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can make a lot more money giving in a little to the UFC than just trying to go on his own. Money is the motivating factor here. He’ll find the way to make the most money. If reality says that the way for him to make the most money is with the UFC, Fedor will be in the UFC.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Realistically, Fedor could probably live like a billionaire in Russia.

Stary Oskol isn’t exactly the highest cost of living in the world. It’s a shithole. He probably has more money than he knows what to do with already. Finkie is the greedy one, but I doubt Fedor gives a shit.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is, the UFC will not give Finkie jack. They are happy to pay Fedro, but not his parasite. Fedro is by far the best thing Finkie has going for him, so he will ride him as far as he can.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean DID test clean

For the 2 fights in 08.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

NO!

 I meant did not test dirty.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that the same thing?

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

haha...

yeah, but this way you were wrong

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two wrongs don’t make a right Brent.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How I choose to view my reality is none of your business!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right, I’m sorry I screwed up your article.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

that's all I wanted to hear

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What just happened?

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foreverz!!!!!

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

It takes three.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 22, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's lefts.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they worked the same way.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 23, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont be sure it was failed drug test

Don’t be so quick to assume this was a failed drug test. Yes Barnett has tested positive for banned drugs in the past, but the CSAC has not said anything about this being a failed “drug” test.

All the CSAC said is that he failed a test. It could be any kind of blood test or physical test from the doctor’s just as easily as it could be a drug test.

I’m not saying its not drugs, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.

by cpjolicoeur on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MMA Junkie said drug test, other sites are saying “positive test”

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still drugs can mean any type of illegal drugs

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's possible...

but if it were a doctor they’d say failed physical (the standard phrasing) and if it were medical they’d likely say a “failed medical test” as is standard

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Updated with that...

thanks

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great analysis. One small correction: Shouldn’t it say he tested clean or did not test dirty for his first two Affliction shows?

I am waiting for MMA Supremacy to come in here and say how this is going to take Affliction to new heights. Personally, I agree with Brent it kills the promotion (hell, it should kill the ppv as well).

Barnett is a joke. He should no longer be eligible for the rankings because he clearly cheats.

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by thetakeover on Jul 22, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

I fixed it

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Vitor Belfort does step in, and somehow manages to knock out Fedor, this could be a huge win for Dana White.

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by thetakeover on Jul 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a mess for Affliction and even worse for the fans…

by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On another note… Lashley might save the PPV.

by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be a huge personal sacrifice. I’d be willing to give him absolutely no chance of winning, and he is trying to build a career and has been clear that he wants to fight in the UFC…so…yeah

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much money are they offering Lashley? And does it include a share of the PPV revenue? Cause this could be a very profitable payday (and an even bigger fight for the noobz than Barnett/Fedor, since Lashley would inevitably be mis-marketed as a stand-in for Brock Lesnar).

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by thetakeover on Jul 22, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lashley's Quote
I don’t know if I would want it right now. Since the last fight, I haven’t really been into training again," he said. "That fight is next week. That would be something I would really have to take a look at. To just jump in there probably wouldn’t be the smartest thing for me right now. A lot of people would say that might be a money fight. They figure, ‘If we give him enough money, will he do it?’ That’s what people tend to look at. I don’t want to get into fighting for the money so much right now.

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the fact that he doesn’t want to get in it for the money yet. Build yourself into a credible fighter first and the UFC will come with the money soon enough.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

he was quoted at sherdog when news broke last night that he wasn’t interested…

Werdum or Jeff Monson seem like the only two top 15 or so HWs that would be easily available for the fight. I don’t see the point of putting the world’s best fighter into the ring with a guy he outweighs by 40-50lbs again.

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both really nice from a “sport” perspective. And shit from a “make money promoting a show” view

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Belfort’s got the coverage of his fights against Lindland and (has to go look it up) Terry Martin on the first two affliction cards. I guess I just don’t see where he’s the guy that’s going to carry a PPV.

But Affliction does have promo people, and Werdum did beat Fedor’s brother, along with 2 big name fighters in Gonzaga and Overeem.

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

it’s just late in the game to try and sell someone on a relative unknown’s past. If this were a month ago maybe.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monson?

that event could be free and i might not watch fedor/monson.

i think afflictions going to err on the side of spectacle.

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Jul 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of Monson which isn’t getting much play right now. He has a helluva lot better chance of winning than Lashley and probably has more name value than Werdum. Plus he just looks mean.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Duh...

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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Monson’s actually ranked higher (12) than Werdum (14) in the most recent rankings here. Im just holding out hope for someone who isn’t going to get armbarred in under a minute.

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kyle Maynard wouldn’t.

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I think Lashley is the only thing that could step in and save the ppv at this point.

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by thetakeover on Jul 22, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TITO!

He “patched things up” with Dana…but he doesn’t have a contract.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if Tito came out to fight Fedor I would tattoo his face on my ass

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

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by J. B. Maddox on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana Called Tito last night and told him that there’s no way he gets a UFC contract if he loses to Fedor.

Tito has just realized that the UFC is his best shot for money, how much money would Affliction have to give him if it meant the future UFC deal was gone?

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tito was just cleared to train at the begining of this month… but who knows. =)

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by Nick Thomas on Jul 22, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to be clear...

I was joking about Tito. It’s not a realistic option. Just a fun one

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I could see it as a possibility if he didn’t “make up” with Dana last week.

he’s been holding out for the right money deal for a long time now, and if Affliction is desperate to get this done, they have to open up the checkbook.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any possibility they kill either the Rothwell/Gormley or Yvel/Buentello matches to find an opponent?

by thepenismightier on Jul 22, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vitor is a better option than any of those guys. So I doubt it

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A washed up middleweight? Really?

Or are we all still pretending that Lindland has been relevant in the last 5 years?

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not about that...

it’s just that none of them has anywhere near his name value (even if he doesn’t have a ton) and he doesn’t have a recent loss on TV or PPV to be a pain in the ass. Rothwell against AA, Yvel against Barnett…etc. And Gormley has 0 name value.

I’m just thinking in terms of selling the show…not just “sporting” terms

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What do we, the fans, care about selling the show?

a) Affliction MMA is dead after this show anyway, right? Let’s not kid ourselves.
b) It’s not like we’re going to make any money off of this event either way. In fact, it’s not like anybody is going to MAKE money off this event. (Except the fighters!)
c) The whole point from the fans’ perspective of Affliction has been that somebody was stupid enough to pay to put on fights that only we gave a shit about.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough..

but I’m hearing pretty reliable things that they were changing their tune on this being their last show.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trilogy doesn’t mean third. It means three total.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just like the Star Wars trilogy

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Star wars is a trilogy of trilogies, that’s why it’s ok.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so… there’s 9?

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They talked about there being 9, yeah.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scrap the event...

Atencio can at least save quite a bit of capital.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude: Tom doesn’t make business decisions that way.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't see why this would affect Affliction

They’ve never let reality get in the way of their business plans before.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Brett Rogers is available. Why not try to use the cred he got from KOing Arlovski?

by mburtoni on Jul 22, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be willing to bet...

that he would turn it down. He knows he has momentum and taking a last minute fight against Fedor would likely kill it. Too much marketability in being an undefeated heavyweight right now.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’m fascinated by the possibility of Fedor fighting someone who isn’t a top 10 heavyweight. According to the Serra-GSP rule – followed by many prominent rankings including Sherdog’s – the man who beats Fedor is the number #1 heavyweight.

by Jahbulon on Jul 22, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good God. Only one word describes this situation for Affliction: fubar.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jul 22, 2009 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not SOL?

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by Zak Woods on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fubar: Fucked up beyond any repair/recognition. More accurate than shit outta luck.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“It’s a fugazi”

by woooburn on Jul 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would they even allow Belfort to fight? Would they sanction a MW fighting a HW?

by StevenGiles on Jul 22, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's actually a good point...

I honestly don’t know how much Belfort cuts to make 185. I don’t think they’d be too keen on it if he just was going to weigh in at like 194 or something

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’d weigh in with a backpack on.

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by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like when Frank Shamrock fought Tito and had rocks in his pockets on the scale?

by Stanlee on Jul 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wear Cyborg's bikini too...

It’ll add some poundage.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 22, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point, i think its much more about saving this one show, than trying to get someone who will sell PPV’s. they need to find someone so that ticket buyers wont be ripped of with no main event. Its impossible to find a replacement and hype the fight up to get PPV buys in a week. They just need to find someone so that the show is not canceled.

I doubt they are looking at paying big money to bring someone in like Grim or Werdum. I could be wrong, but my guess is they fill this slot internally. Vitor, Gilbert, Buentello, or Rothwell.

Its a terrible move for Lashley. He hasnt been in a traing camp for starters, and he also is doing well with the “build slowly” stile of making it to the big stage.

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by MMArazorback on Jul 22, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and for the Coture comments from other threads...

Sure this would have been opertunistic for Coture had he not came back to the UFC..

But, I would rather get two big pay-days fighting Brock and Nog in the UFC than wait around for over a year and get one big payday to fight Fedor on a weeks notice.

I know that wasnt in this thread, but iv seen it several times this morning.

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by MMArazorback on Jul 22, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That, and even if he didn’t “come back” to the UFC, Zuffa wouldn’t let him take the fight.

by Phildo on Jul 22, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Sylvia would have made a good opponent since he got cut from the card. Its not that long since he fought, so I’m sure he’s still in pretty good shape. Oh wait………..

by StevenGiles on Jul 22, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that the UFC makes running their business look too smooth, therefore having organizations that have no business in MMA trying to do it big time.

by thesource on Jul 22, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CONGRATULATIONS AFFLICTION

barnett’s failed drug test has garnered more interest in your card than any of your actual advertisements

by woooburn on Jul 22, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m waiting for them to come out with “Turns out it was a false positive, fight on!” and it all turns out that it was a big scam for some publicity. How great would that be?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the sense that they would go from “Jemal buys their PPV” to “Jemal does not buy their PPV”? Great for my bank account!

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jul 22, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Affliction's Business Model a Potentially Crippling Blow for Affliction?

Fixed

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by ufc4 on Jul 22, 2009 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

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