UFC 103: Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson Rematch Announced as Headliner
by Nate Wilcox on Jul 20, 2009 9:03 PM EDT
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In desperate need of a main event for the organization's first event in Dallas, the Ultimate Fighting Championship today announced a UFC 103 headliner that we've seen once before: Rich Franklin (25-4 MMA, 12-3 UFC) vs. Dan Henderson (25-7 MMA, 5-2 UFC).
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The UFC did not clarify whether the fighters will meet at light heavyweight or middleweight (or even a catch-weight). Franklin most recently competed at 195 pounds, and Henderson recently fought at 185.
Damn. This is just feeble match-making. This fight gets neither fighter anywhere in their careers. The first fight was not exactly a barn-burner either.
I was thinking Friday that a Rich Franklin vs Tito Ortiz match would be one of those knock it out of the park surprise signings that Dana White and Joe Silva are known for. Instead we get this.
The worst part is I just bought tickets to see this event live. I'll still go and I'll still be excited, but Henderson vs Franklin 2 is a weak weak headliner.
Those who argue that the UFC is putting on too many events and stacking their big cards too deep have a case here. It also doesn't help that the reality show post-pones at least one headliner a quarter for several months.
Here's the official UFC.com spin:
Their first bout split the mixed martial arts community, making it obvious that they needed more than 15 minutes to settle their score. On Saturday, September 19th, UFC superstars Dan Henderson and Rich Franklin will meet again in the main event of UFC 103 at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas, with Henderson looking to make it 2-0 over the former middleweight champ, and Franklin trying to even things up with the former two division PRIDE champion.
HT BE reader Beermonster.
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Awesome
maybe Rich will come to fight in the first two rounds. last time they fought, Ace didn’t show up until the final round.
Henderson needs to be fighting Okami and Sonnen should fight Kang.
Being a good matchmaker is not that hard Joe.
I’ve been a fan and followed the UFC for more than a year – every event, every fight night – and I haven’t seen enough of either of those two to understand your statement. That’s a sample size of one, granted, but I bet lots of casual fans know Hendo and Franklin, and don’t know the other two.
I’m looking forward to this – I hope the Hendo who KO’d Bisping shows up, rather than his human blanket cousin. Then again, Hendo probably respects Franklin enough not to stalk him with his plan telegraphed.
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by outlander78 on Jul 20, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kang was at one point in the top ten best MW in the world. Kang is one of the most taltened fighters in the division but seems as though finds ways to lose. Sonnen (sp?) is the guy who was brought over from the WEC and should have been the champion but Paulo Fhilo had some sort of mental break down and his mind wasent in fighting and he missed weight so no title on line.
The UFC should have just done Franklin vs Cane then
This does NOT make me hopeful that the buyrates will be any good. It just begs the question: why not just do Rich Franklin vs Luis Cane? I can’t imagine the buyrates being that much lower if they did Cane vs Franklin instead of Franklin vs Henderson II.
It depends if there is any real appeal in the fight. In this case , it is NOT a fresh fight, and there is nothing on the line for either fighters. Add to the fact that generally both fight at different weight classes.
by chrisbboy82 on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So I'm considering buying tickets...
…but this card doesn’t overwhelm me. However, it is still a chance to see the UFC live – should I take it?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 20, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, but don’t spend a lot. I considered going but don’t think this is worth driving 12 hours for.
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by ufc4 on Jul 20, 2009 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dumb fight
Dana must be pissed because there’s no way this card is beating Mayweather-Marquez on the same day. I’m not even going to be buying this card.
NO NO NO
The problem isn’t a lack of depth. Both Hendo and Franklin can headline a lower tier UFC even, but please don’t put these two together. Hendo should be building to a big match at 185.
Uhh I need to stop writing. I’m just rambling incoherently I’m so pissed. I’ll post back when I settle down.
If this pisses you off that much, you need some perspective in life.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 20, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yawn. If they wanted to go this route they should have done co-mains with Franklin-Cane and Hendo-Wandy. I don’t see how this helps anyone.
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by ufc4 on Jul 20, 2009 6:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think a lot of people would.
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by ufc4 on Jul 20, 2009 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im MUCH
more stoked for hendo/franklin 2 than another wandy/hendo fight
he was injured. injured bad.
WHY AGAIN ?
This rematch makes no sence at all. Please Joe Silva could of done alot better then this.
WHY?
I can’t believe this fight is going on. This makes no sense. Rich should be fighting either Tito or Luis Cane. If Tito would fight Rich in Dallas Texas, you can expect huge PPV’s and a full publicity, overshadowing the Boxing PPV on the same night. I’m very confused on why Joe Silva put this together. Henderson should also be getting ready for Anderson Silva. Hopefully the UFC will change its mind.
shouldve scrapped the ppv card, and added the booked fights to UFC19, to make a mega free card out of it. would’ve been a perfect lead-in to the tuf premiere.
poor rich. how bout giving the guy a legit chance at the lhw title.
What just happened to the other Henderson fanpost?
You know, the one suggesting he could be an opponent for Brock.
SANCHEZ VS. BROCK OR BUST!!
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YUS!!!!
errr, I mean, NO!!!!!!
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I thought it wasn't too crazy
Henderson is almost as big as Randy and Randy had limited success. I’d give Henderson almost the same chance as Randy.
Oh well, not having the balls to take the heat for his fan post is the bigger shame to me.
Simply awful...
I wasn’t that excited about the first one…
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by funnytiger on Jul 20, 2009 6:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That’s the problem. No UFC card can really be judged on one fight. Perhaps boxing can, but not the UFC.
I am very excited for the card. I easily admit that the main event is a little lacklust and is too soon. It should still be fun to watch and the rest of the undercard is extremely strong.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Except this one fight is the main event.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping would have gotten title shot if he beat Henderson?Doesnt make any sense.Props to Dan for taking on all fights though.Thats a true fighter.Wish he was revenging fight with Anderson Silva.
your grammar is absurd ma’am
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jul 20, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't mind this rematch in theory
but this is way too soon for it
seems a little to soon to me as well
but obviously part of Rich’s new deal is that he gets a rematch with Hendo. I’m sure the UFC told Hendo that if he beats Rich again he’ll get a shot at Anderson
Yawn.
That’s really all I have to say about that.
I love this match: it means we’ll probably get 103 for free.
Keep firing Assholes!
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Would Dana be willing
To have UFN19, UFC 103 and 105 all for free within roughly a 2 month span?
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Unless he wants to get publicly mangled by Marquez/Mayweather.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's reenactment of the Battle of Cowpens, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
Not likely. He is putting up a no title UFC PPV against Mayweather. Even if they pull 400,000 buys, White can say his secondary PPV can still do a lot of buys straight up against Mayweather. If Mayweather talks too much smack, Brock Lesnar will be used in direct competition against Mayweather the next time. And it will be very ugly when Mayweather backs down.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jul 20, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm all for it being for free
I mean Spike has aired BJ Penn vs. Jens Pulver, Franklin vs. Shamrock, Tanner vs. Grove, Jackson vs. Henderson, and Silva vs. Irvin so it’s absolutely feasible.
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I don’t know about this match, to be honest I’m not excited one bit, mostly cause I don’t want any of those two to loose their momentum.
This should be on free TV, but the rest of this card is pretty damn good.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe they’re still looking for a co-headline? But it’s like they didn’t even try? Like giving your girlfriend a Gift Certificate to a restaurant she’s been to a thousand times already for Valentines.
by Dooda on Jul 20, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m probably alone on this, but I think five round fights should be reserved for title fights only.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you – everyone knows you have 15 min to win, so do what you can without leaving it to the judges. It’s not a difficult concept. There’s more at stake for a title, so give them the extra 10 minutes to make the champions prove their worth.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 20, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, i dont see the need for five round fights having to be for titles.
this is much more intriguing w five rounds
by Gerrymanderer on Jul 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop trying to create a new weight class so that Rich Franklin becomes a champion again.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen anyone
Actually reply to their own comment just to put in their stupid emoticon to enhance the stupidity of their own comment.
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by SSreporters on Jul 20, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, what?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even a little.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 20, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a strong point
I’m obviously in the minority that believes this is watchable main event. Than again I thought Rampage vs Jardine was a decent last minute main event too and everyone else here killed that.
I’m looking forward to Henderson making it 2-0 versus Franklin so he can shut up how he was robbed in the 1st match.
by bignerd on Jul 20, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I liked that fight too
The smack talk between Rashad and Rampage was worth watching Jardine trying to ruin the UFC’s plans.
Any chance UFC doing a 195lbs title starting with this fight? It would actually make sense as well since they aren’t giving Anderson to Hendo after that win. Would be sweet IMO. Wandy/Franklin/Hendo and many others could all stay in one division instead of jumping around from MW-LHW. I’m just hoping this is the case because I’ll be attending lol.
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by xFenixKnightx on Jul 21, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
What? Why?
It’s the rematch no one was clamoring for!
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by The Kittitas Kid on Jul 20, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i liked this fight the first time and even a rematch but not 10 events after the first one. It seems like a scramble to fill a slot and this seemed like a good idea.
Also this fight stalls one or the other. If Franklin loses there goes the steam he gained from the Wand win and if hendo loses hes right back to where he started trying to build up another streak to get to the title. This is worse for franklin he is spose to be in 205 so let him fight a 205 fighter
SO....
1)If Bisping would have beaten Hendo = Anderson vs Bisping for MW Belt.
2) Since Hendo won, we get Hendo vs Franklin ?????
1) Bisping doesn’t fight at LHW anymore whereas Dan has expressed indifference as to what class he’s at
2) Anderson is already booked for the summer, so there’s no reason he can’t defend against Dan when it’s all said and done.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
1) If Arlovski KO’s Rogers, we get Arlovski/Overeem
2) Rogers KO’s Arlovski and we get Werdum/Overeem?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, we get Rogers vs Werdum/Overeem winner in October.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We don’t know that for sure – nothing’s been booked. Could they not find another HW more worthy than Werdum?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Like, was Ray Mercer busy or something?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Are you still mad Werdum disposed of Vera and Gonzaga in the UFC?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Vera found his appropriate weight and Gonzaga had an off night.
The fact that Werdum is the best they could do for Overeem is just sad. This, on the other hand, will be an exciting, hotly contested fight that ended with some controversy last time.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean Gonzaga had TWO bad nights against Werdum, considering that he is 0-2 against Werdum. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and then he RHK’ed Mirko Cro Cop at the height of his powers.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t like slap-fighters, you’re watching the wrong sport.
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by Charles Awad on Jul 20, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He slapped Vera out of the HW division and Gonzaga pretty damn hard. A pimp would have been proud of those TKOs.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if the UFC will just tell Strikeforce ‘fuck it, you can use this highlight and that’s it’
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if they show some of hsi footage against Gonzaga.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Werdum beat Gonzaga, then Gonzaga beat Cro Cop, then Werdum beat Gonzaga again. So whatever shine you’re giving Gonzaga for the Cro Cop victory has surely rubbed off on Werdum.
Werdum/Overeem II, despite Werdum coming off a loss, is a little less weird than Henderson/Franklin II.
gabe yes Vera got a bit of help from a trigger happy ref. The same dude that called the kimbo/ thompson fight /
I don't know about him
But I could care less about that. I’m just dissapointed that he was KTFO’d by Dos Santos.
Also, just to prove how wrong you are, if Arlovski would have won, there was no guarantee he was fighting Overeem next, since he was a loan from Affliction and all.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you bother
Commenting on anything UFC related? Seriously why?
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You just blew my mind.
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by Charles Awad on Jul 20, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because my poorly informed opinion is fucking important and people NEED TO KNOW WHAT I’M THINKING!!!!!!!!
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Jul 20, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t remeber anyone from strike Force like Coker or Arlovski saying he would of gotten a title shot for Strike Force against Overeem if he won that fight. I actually think thats something Strike Force would not do with Arlovski or any other fighter under contract with another org on a one fight loan to them ?
Correct. There was no guarantee he would have fought Overeem next since he was still signed to Affliction.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 20, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY.
At least Put Franklin Vs. Cane or something.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I read on an mmajunkie forum that Cane is injured
Of course, that is not the best or most reliable source, so don’t take my word for it unless it is reported legitimately.
by chrisbboy82 on Jul 21, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
From their first fight I definitely believe that a rematch is warranted
however, at this point in time:
-Henderson should be fighting at middleweight.
-Franklin should be fighting at light heavy.
by MMAussie on Jul 20, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This. I kinda want to see this fight, but they shouldn’t be fighting in the same weight class right now, so it doesn’t make sense. Oh well. I’ll just try to enjoy it for what it is: a good fight.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 20, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
True that. I think it is almost guaranteed to be a great fight as well. I’m sure Rich will come out fired up as he is still most likely pissed at the decision not going his way last time, not to mention the eye-poke & head-butt, albeit they both appeared unintentional.
really? i thought him losing a close decision was the perfect way for the fight to go for him. He saves face because a lot of people thought he won, but he didn’t get saddled with the TUF job he repeatedly said he didn’t want to do again.
Wow their first fight was the first ever fight I’ve fallen asleep to. I was completely out and dreaming. And now they do it again? Awful, awful matchmaking
Does everyone think the first fight sucked?
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked it too – as an excuse for day drinking and as a stylistic matchup.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
are you a fight fan or not?! the first fight was awesome and the second will be too. I know this is kindof disappointing because we just saw this fight a year ago, but oh well. Dont be stupid and act as if the UFC doesnt keep us entertained. Every PPV isnt going to be amazing. There will always be weak cards and great cards, get over it and stop being such fareweather fans. The UFC is still by far the best fight organization in the world, What the fuck are you guys bitching about?!
by moopwontplay on Jul 21, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
We’re mostly bitching about an untimely and unnecessary rematch that doesn’t really do anything for either fighter involved since they should be fighting in different weightclasses. What did you think we were bitching about?
by FRANKIE on Jul 21, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
fair enough, I guess I just think we should take the weaker cards in stride. Because most of the cards are awesome, and this one is still pretty decent. I do agree that this fight is far from ideal as a main event at this time, and i would also rather see them stick to there current weight classes. But still, i think the fuss is unnecessary because the UFC is still giving us kick ass fights, and is always improving.
by moopwontplay on Jul 21, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, we just saw this fight six months ago, not a year ago.
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by ufc4 on Jul 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, that kind of sucks you got tickets to find out that was the main event. Still, i know we got tickets for UFC 78 when BJ was supposed to headline against Sherk before the knucklehead got suspended and they switched it to Bisping-Rashad. We were a little dissapointed at first too, but you’ll love it there no matter.
They should've
Scrapped Vera’s 102 bout once Hamill got injured and put on Franklin vs Vera for 103
Bring Back BA
Good call.
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by Charles Awad on Jul 20, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought that the final iceman fight would be good for vera i mean seems like who ever beats chuck gets an automatic title shot even if he dident it would put alot of eyes on Vera and creat a new star in the LHW division. Also good angle vera use to say he could knock out chuck give him the chance.
Yeah that sounds like a much better idea
that could actually advance things in the LHW division
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by Captain Fubar on Jul 20, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They want Vera to win, though, is the thing.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Vera is a headliner?
The guy can barely headline UFN card right now. How is he a better choice than Henderson or I am arguing with everyone from the Philippines?
He is a well known fighter and has a 2-1 record at LHW with the loss being a split-decision to Jardine even though the 2 wins are against lesser opponents in Patt & Reese Andy. I’d say he’s as much of a draw as Jardine and possibly more but I don’t know what the Phillipines PPV numbers are like. Jardine was the main event against Liddell and Rampage. I seriously doubt anyone bought those PPV cause of Jardine.
I’m not saying he deserves to fight Franklin but he was just another option besides the Hendo/Franklin rematch.
Bring Back BA
I like both fighters......
But I couldn’t care less about it, with some of the potential matchups mentioned here already that they could roll out…..
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If they had to do a rematch, I think Wandy and Rich would have been a better, more exciting matchup. A lesser of two evils.
I really hate how TUF messes with title defenses and keeps the big names benched.
For all the people that keep asking “why not Luis Cane?”, there seem to be 2 logical answers:
1. Franklin just renegotiated, and probably asked for Hendo first. He’s always been a good soldier, and Dana probably obliged him.
2. He turned down a fight with Luis Cane.
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by Tim Burke on Jul 20, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Proof?
Please provide a link, a source, anything to show an ounce of proof that Rich turned down a fight.
See, I know Rich and he does not turn down fights. Like everyone here knows, he is a good company man and if they ask him to fight someone he does it. Plain and simple.
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He never said Rich turned it down he just said it was a possibility. And Rich never turns down a fight huh?
The UFC offered Paulo Filho (14-0) the fight with Rich Franklin at UFC
72 on 6/16/07. However Franklin’s camp turned down the fight saying
they had no interest in fighting Filho. The 2nd choice was Yushin Okami
and Farnklin’s camp accepted the bout.
There goes that theory.
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At least post the rest of it:
Monte Cox’s Statement:
First, the potential opponents are run through me… not “Franklin’s camp.”
Second, we were presented with a couple options… I chose Okami and it was his to take or turn down… he took it. Filho was the next choice.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 20, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
its like Hendo has a two-track career that don’t intersect in the UFC. I think this is a placeholder fight so Hendo can match up with the winner of Marquard-Maia. Win or lose, it does nothing against Henderson’s place at 185. Franklin has everything to lose if this is at 205, he can’t go back to middleweight like Henderson. So I don’t know why he agreed.
Rich did say he wanted the rematch in an old interview:
You’ve only lost to Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida and Dan Henderson in your entire career. Which of those guys do you want another shot at the most?
I had two shots at Anderson, and I didn’t beat him, so shame on me. I can sleep well at night knowing I at least tried, but came up short. Lyoto beat me fair and square. Dan, on the other hand, I feel like I won that fight. Lord willing, I hope the rematch comes back around for the two of us.
I still voted “No”
If Rich wins, he gets to start to think about guys like Griffin, Jardine, Evans, Rampage. If he can’t get past Henderson again, I’m not sure what there is for him left in the UFC . . . unless he wants to just gatekeep at 205. I think Franklin is clearly a better middleweight that light heavyweight and I’m not sure how much really wants to be at 205. In interviews, he says things like “the UFC has talked to me about 205” I’m not really sure he’s wild about it. If he can beat Hendo, then maybe . . . this is Franklin’s biggest fight in his career right now and I’m actually really interested to see how it turns out.
Like I said, if Franklin can’t beat Hendo I don’t know where he goes? Back to fighting exciting but ultimately pointless fights where rankings are concerned like what he just did with Wanderlei Silva?
Yes, and at 185 to round out the trilogy.
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by ufc4 on Jul 21, 2009 8:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is kinda like giving Leites a rematch against Silva
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Did you watch the first Henderson/Franklin fight? Roughly half of the mma blogosphere felt Franklin won that fight. At the very least it was close enough to be tough to call and debatable either way. Pretty much the exact opposite of Silva/Leites.
by Kierkegaard on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. It’s not.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 21, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I just dont know what to think...
The first fight was close so that might make this one more interesting. Like most people have already stated, there is not much sense in this matchup.
Must've been a scramble
I don’t agree with this main event choice. I’m surprised that Hendo agreed to this. They must have offered him some serious dough
I’m a bit dumbfounded by this rematch. I understand that it will be a pretty solid drawing fight because of Henderson’s massive KO of Bisping and Franklin’s popularity, but there were better options in my opinion.
I noticed that MMAJunkie reported that Luis Cane was unavailable, which is unfortunate, so this was probably the next best thing. I would have rather saw the UFC sign Tito, bring him in against Franklin as a major drawing main event, but we’ll see how this goes. First fight was very close.
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Rich vs Tito and Hendo vs Wandy as co-headliners would have been an awesome card
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by outlander78 on Jul 21, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I will probably still watch it but I would say this is the least I will be looking foward to a UFC in a long time. I mean, I like them both and enjoyed the first fight but this is two guys that should be staying in different weight classes, that fought each other only six months ago, neither gains anything in their divisions from this fight, and its on the same night that Mayweather makes his return. Is this really the best they could do? Maybe one of them will get injured and they will be forced to change it.
The thing of it is, if this were a “grudge match,” I’d be more hyped for the rematch, but since both fighters are “good guys,” we won’t see any of the trash talk that made Hughes-Serra or Davis-Hardy so intriguing.
Maybe they should sweeten the deal for Hendo, and promise him a shot at both Anderson or Machida if he wins, then seat them at cageside, so that he could announce who he’d face first…
From this Bad Left Hook poll, no one cares about the Mayweather fight. This was Dana’s chance to step on Boxing’s throat and he just blew it.
Now its a boxing match no one cares about going up against a UFC card no one cares about.
You’re taking that the wrong way. All it means is that Cotto/Pacman is highly anticipated. The only way using that poll as a comparison would make sense if it was UFC 103 vs. Mayweather/Marquez, and I think you’d see a swing toward Money and JMM in that case.
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right right. My thought was that Pac is a hero in boxing. Money is a villian. Everyone wants to see the hero. Everyone wants to see the hero beat the villian even more. No one cares if the villian faces a guy they have never seen before.
I personally would have watched a better UFC card over the Mayweather fight. Now, Ill watch boxing.
With all the shit Mayweather has been saying about MMA I wish that they could have made a better card to compete with it.
It would have been awesome for them to resign Tito and smash the PPV numbers that weekend.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 22, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
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