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UFC 100 Preview: Back at Southpaw, Frank Mir Is Worried About Brock Lesnar's Reach

Brockpunches_mediumAriel Helwani got this out of Frank Mir during the UFC 100 conference call transcript:

"I can point out why I think Brock has been successful at striking because we've actually had to address that in my training camp," Mir said on a call to promote UFC 100. "Brock's reach for his height is actually long. A lot of people don't realize that. They talk about his size, his power. Brock is almost 6-foot-4 ... his reach is actually really long. I remember even watching when he beat Randy, and he slipped that punch from Brock. He thought that he was out of the way, and that punch kept on coming, it kept on coming, and it kept on coming. And finally it just caught him and he went down."

Mir added that he had to find sparring partners who are taller than Lesnar so he could practice trading punches with someone who had the same arm length as Lesnar.

"I have two sparring partners that are 6-foot-7 and one who is even 6-foot-8 that we spar with," Mir said. "I had to find training partners that are three or four inches taller than Brock to even how long his arm reach is. Which, you know, if you watch boxing, that's the reason everyone sits there and goes, 'Well, what's his reach?' That's a very helpful tool in a fight -- how big the reach advantage is. Especially if you're throwing punches. The longer your arms are, the better it is."

Mir is very right to worry about Lesnar's reach. He should be concerned with his power too.

Under striking coach Ken Hahn, Mir's striking has improved dramatically in the last year. But many remain convinced that his battering of Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira had more to do with the staph infection that had Big Nog in the hospital five days before the fight than any technical improvements worked by Hahn and Mir.

Here's Hahn talking to MMA Junkie about prepping Mir for that fight:

I had Frank train with reputable professional boxers - one heavyweight and one light heavyweight. Then I had him spar with kickboxers, wrestlers and Olympic-level judo players.

When you have a chance to train with so many different high-level guys, there's just no way around improving. .You've got to get better.

...

The bottom line is Frank was willing to listen and do whatever I said. I mean, who's going to say, "You're going to spar professional boxers today? Well, I'm not a boxer." I don't care. You're going to box them, and you're going to survive because that's what is going to get you the hand speed. That's why he was so much more efficient boxing.

He also drops this very interesting nugget about Mir's transition from southpaw to conventional stance and back over the course of his career:

t's because he was originally a southpaw, and then he got into that accident, so he switched to regular stance to favor his non-injured leg. After the (Brock) Lesnar fight, his leg was fully healed, and we decided to go back to his regular fighting stance and go back-and-forth.

His true fighting stance is southpaw, though he integrated the two fighting stances. You can see he actually had three or four fights where he fought in regular stance. And that's enough experience to be able to defend yourself. But, when you look at how he defended from a southpaw stance, he looked 20 times better than from a regular stance.

If he was fighting from a southpaw stance against Brandon Vera, he probably wouldn't have got caught by Brandon's knee. But from a different stance, you have to relearn everything from the beginning.

Frank's a lot more confident in that left-hand stance. But he can switch in and out, and that's what made him so elusive against Nogueira. Looking at the distance and the timing, every time Nogueira tried to step in, he was already gone. And then he would take an angle and weave and throw his punches. It was like in slow motion.

Mir's definitely the underdog going into this fight. In my mind it's going to come down to his ability to stand with Lesnar, avoid the long arms and massive power they carry. If Mir can score on the feet, that and only that will force Lesnar to take the fight to the ground.

If Lesnar charges out and takes the fight to the ground again, he's making a huge mistake. He already lost to Mir once on the ground. Why take that risk when he's got the reach and power advantages on his feet. It's a five round fight, if Lesnar can be patient, the fight should be his.

Examiner.com has the full transcript from the UFC 100 conference call.

AP photo via Newsday.com

UFC 100 coverage

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Mir’s got a lot to worry about in this fight.

by subo on Jul 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sometimes

when I talk about technique I feel like its going over people’s heads.
Which is funny since I don’t know anything about technique!

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I understood it. I mean it’s better to see a GIF maybe but I understand about stances. Guys who blow out their knees are always tentative. They do have to relearn things

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Nate.
Its a five round fight, if Lesnar can be patient, the fight should be his.

Apostrophe fail.

by subo on Jul 2, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

thanks for catching.
hard to believe i used to teach college english.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

its all good Nate. i frequently leave them out just to make them feel bad.

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by funnytiger on Jul 2, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

notice how i left it out there?

take that apostrophe!

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by funnytiger on Jul 2, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be careful

There’s some guy around here who will stalk you for that.

by FRANKIE on Jul 3, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that, actually – I think people kind of expect it from me at this point. Remember, I didn’t give you any shit at all.

Plus Kid Nate fucks them up all the time. If I can’t antagonize staff, what purpose do I serve?

by subo on Jul 3, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully Mir’s stand up looks good especially since every WEC card he calls he talks about how others aren’t.

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey

just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean you can’t see it.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my favorite is when he’s riding a fighter’s bandwagon. He rides it so hard that I think the wagon’s wheel’s break off by the end of the fight

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he does need to work on that

Mir is even worse than Rogan that way. Sometimes it feels like one fighter’s mom is narrating the action.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

does anyone know who else Mir trains with? i mean, i don’t think i have ever heard who he actually trains with

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he trains BJJ

with Robert Drysdale.

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t he also working with Maia for this one?

by FRANKIE on Jul 3, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh ok. thanks!

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i just read the notes from the presser and does anyone else think its weird that Mir weighs around 262 right now? Has he ever fought that heavy before?

by blackzag05 on Jul 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah and all muscle at that…. if you saw the sparring videos, he looks is phenomenal shape. I expected him to be a lot lighter if anything. 262 is just HUGE.

by cauliflower_ears on Jul 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but 280

is HUGE-ER

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by Kid Nate on Jul 2, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea,

but with Lesnar and to a lesser degree Carwin that’s such a big bit of information, where as people forget that Mir, even in shape, is a big athletic guy as well… I think the difference is Mir’s strength will be more apparent with his technique as opposed to just brute force.

by Loot on Jul 2, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fighter who can control where the fight takes place

always will have a big advantage.

Lesnar can dictate if the fight is standing or on the ground. The question remains how he will use this advantage.

by polevaultking on Jul 2, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Extendo-Arms©
I make $.12 every time someone says that.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jul 2, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ken Hahn is seems like a strategic mastermind, like he is the next Greg Jackson or something.

by Bandaka on Jul 2, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He had a weekly blog going on in mmajunkie, and it was always extremely informative. I don’t know if he is a super strategist, but he is a phenomenal striking coach (he could be both though).

by chrisbboy82 on Jul 2, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just cant see why everyone is sleeping on Mir . He already beat Brock once,oh ya that was a fluke right? Because Brock was so inexperienced but now in just a year hes a jujitso expert ,Right? anybody whos ever watched boxing should have a basic idea of technique and be able to see Brocks got none . while Mirs no world beater in that area he is at least descent and when you add in kicks well we will see. Big power and reach did not help sylvia against mercer I know its a much different fight but its an example of how a smaller fighter can slip inside on a big man. I really dont expect Mir to Knock Lesnar out but it woudnt shock me.I wouldnt be suprised to see Lesnar win either just dont count Mir out.

by TLAoutlaw on Jul 2, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I promise

That not ONE person in the MMA world will be remotely suprised if Mir submits Lesnar.

Alot of people just think it is improbable, given that top level wrestling can negate an active guard very effectively. You don’t even need to know BJJ very well….

16 months practising sub defense from a dominant position is ALOT. Brock wont be putting anyone to sleep with a triangle anytime soon, but defensive wrestling he could well have mastered.

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 3, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe against a good bjj expert, against a guy who is one of the best submission specialist in MMA that is a pipe dream Brock would have to spend the next 10 years practicing sub defense to catch up with what Mir presents.

by Raker on Jul 3, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey look, another excuse for the Vera loss.

by subo on Jul 3, 2009 3:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t you know Mir had a staph infection before the Vera fight that’s why he got KTFO, because you know that makes it ok and should not count as a win for Vera smh.

by Raker on Jul 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Serious Question (after a short diatribe)

Every time Nog or his camp talk about the Mir fight they add another injury to the pile. First it was staph, then it was his knee (and I think I remember something about his uterus being bruised or something). Was he really sick? Are these excuses? Whatever. Don’t care.

Why? Because being a fighter is more than just what you do in the ring/cage/semi-circle. One of those externals is deciding when you are or aren’t ready to take a fight. For instance, Rampage seems to say that earlier in his career he’d take fights on little to no notice and without training camps – and look at how spotty his record was. If Nog is going to take fights when he’s too injured/sick/whiny to fight, that’s part of what defines him as a fighter. Nog: Great jits, recovers quickly from damage, can’t tell when he’s falling apart. Cool.

But my question is: don’t they have to disclose all of this to the commission before the fight? Didn’t he have to get medically checked out? If he was in the hospital 5 days out (notice how that number decreased from 2 weeks originally?), what the hell was the commission doing letting him fight? And if he didn’t disclose that, isn’t it a breach of his agreement with the commission for a fighter’s license?

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by jemaleddin on Jul 7, 2009 6:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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