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Snapshot of the Day: How MMA Appears to the Uninitiated

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via Penny Arcade

And here's Tycho's commentary on the comic:

We rented a slew of videos and prepared ourselves for displays of incredible prowess. I don't know what we were expecting, exactly, some Wing Chun shit perhaps, but the matches we saw tended to follow a very specific pattern:

1. One dude, let's call him "He Who Is About To Lose," tries to rock some Wing Chun shit.
2. The other dude grabs this leg, and proceeds to bend his opponent's body into a shape we no longer recognize as human.

Reference the comic above for a detailed analysis of the rest of the match. Part of it is almost certainly that we (this is the greater, gamer-encompassing we, but also anyone who watches movies ever) have a somewhat warped idea of what human bodies can tolerate in terms of hit points. Even by those standards, we were not prepared to see how short the distance is from Point A to Point B, where Point A is a human specimen in peak condition and Point B is a wholly sundered being.

It's too true. Less so today than in the old days, but the ground game just doesn't explain itself and even the flashiest fighters -- say Jon Jones and Cung Le -- don't pull off something flashy every minute.

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Saw this one this morning and wasn’t too thrilled, especially after reading the accompanying description by Tycho. But after a deep breath, I just let it roll off my back. We’re just gotta accept that not everyone is going to enjoy MMA, and apparently two of my favorite internet personalities are two of those people. But, hey, cock punch jokes are better than some of the shit Michael Wilbon and co puke up on national television.

I poop rainbows.

by Charles Awad on Jul 15, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That description really annoyed me, because it’s akin to somebody trying video games for the first time after hearing how lifelike the graphics are and how great the storytelling is, and then only playing on an Atari 2600.

by Lyrias on Jul 15, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

can y'all link me up

with the description? There’s no commentary where I view Penny Arcade.

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by Nate Wilcox on Jul 15, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny UFC Undisputed 2009 is not mentioned anywhere, I would have expected them to try the game.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 15, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

worth quoting the text that accompanied the comic.


There was a point at which Gabriel and I decided we would be Mixed Martial Arts enthusiasts for some reason, and I don’t recall exactly why. Fascination with “combat systems” is not out of the ordinary for boys of any age; and speaking personally, any new conceptual space is loaded with jargon, sparkling in rich seams, and fighting is particularly dense in this regard. I have an urge to begin simply listing the radical, mind-expanding lexicon of this space, but I wont. Krav Maga! Okay, that one just slipped out. Glaive-Guisarme! I’d better get a new paragraph going, for real. Gotta lock this shit down.

We rented a slew of videos and prepared ourselves for displays of incredible prowess. I don’t know what we were expecting, exactly, some Wing Chun shit perhaps, but the matches we saw tended to follow a very specific pattern:

1. One dude, let’s call him “He Who Is About To Lose,” tries to rock some Wing Chun shit.
2. The other dude grabs this leg, and proceeds to bend his opponent’s body into a shape we no longer recognize as human.

Reference the comic above for a detailed analysis of the rest of the match. Part of it is almost certainly that we (this is the greater, gamer-encompassing we, but also anyone who watches movies ever) have a somewhat warped idea of what human bodies can tolerate in terms of hit points. Even by those standards, we were not prepared to see how short the distance is from Point A to Point B, where Point A is a human specimen in peak condition and Point B is a wholly sundered being.

Given the prevailing cultural opinion, you would imagine that (given the quantity of videogames I ingest) seeing two people try to castrate each other on television would have no discernible effect, or maybe even soothe me, in some grisly inversion of the supposed natural order. So steeped am I in terrible violence that seeing a man’s vas deferens hauled out of him, like precious copper from some doomed building, should be as gentle as seeing a formation of dandelion seeds sail by – but it isn’t. I can’t actually watch things like this. We pulled up a few videos while we were writing the comic, searching with keywords designed to create maximum amusement, and we saw fit to close the browser. It may be that such “look away moments” are the attraction of the sport, but in my specific case I am happy to look away as a matter of considered policy.

It’s not for everyone, no question. I’m surprised they posted this though as I don’t think I’ve ever read them talk about MMA before so I wonder what sparked the comment and the comic.

by pr0cs on Jul 15, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

shit I should have previewed first.. dammit. the last sentence is my comment on their text.

by pr0cs on Jul 15, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

added some to the main post.
funny for years i’ve just been looking at the comic, didn’t know there was commentary too.

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by Nate Wilcox on Jul 15, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the text tycho puts up there really adds a couple things, but mostly it shows their perspective as video gamers and nerds. This is not a criticism (I am both), it just shows how it colors their expectations of the sport.

Here’s the link to the post:
Tycho Brahe – The Ball Region

by loboplata on Jul 15, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I offered to make some fight recomendations to @cwgabriel on twitter, but he hasn’t responded yet. hehe.

by loboplata on Jul 15, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s also a thread in their forums about White’s “war” with EA. In amongst the business talk is plenty of criticism of MMA, based on either early UFCs (UFC 4 is shown via you tube) or a lack of understanding of the sport.

Perhaps the UFC should give up some cash and post a few of the best fights on you tube, so that UFC 1-4 aren’t the most viewed MMA matches for curious people.

I’d love to be objective and say that it is an interesting view, but actually the misrepresentations made me pretty angry. If they used Lesnar’s behaviour or Henderson’s late hit as subjects to criticize, I’d understand, but instead it’s the usual stuff – boxing is better, rolling around on the ground is boring, it’s not a sport etc.

I don’t mind intelligent (read: educated) criticism of any subject – that’s why I visit this forum – but people who know next to nothing about a subject holding forth really gets to me, whether its MMA or some other subject.

I like James Woods’ comment on Shark about MMA – he tells his strong-arm guy, who can’t handle watching, to man up. :)

"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.

"The training's going great for UFC 101. I'm making sure not to overtrain." - B.J. Penn.

by outlander78 on Jul 15, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

As a video gamer and a nerd I can’t really say I relate to how they had unrealistic expectations.

Also, their video game was pretty awful, and given my expectations of what a video game should be, I also had to look away.

by DirtyML on Jul 15, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

is anyone here posting on their forums?

by loboplata on Jul 15, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh

Fedor got lifted by HMC and still finished that armbar…

by loboplata on Jul 15, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awsome, Nick.

"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.

"The training's going great for UFC 101. I'm making sure not to overtrain." - B.J. Penn.

by outlander78 on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dog is clearly supposed to be Roy Nelson and I am offended by this.

by DirtyML on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a great strip! Looks familiar, too. Nick, What comic is that?

And Rec’d. :)

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jul 15, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get fuzzy!. The cat has been talki’n smack since Monday.

Hello, Japan!

by Mr.Kib on Jul 15, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been there.

Some of the 135ers are just so damned cute when they try to tap you. RNCs become piggy back rides, etc.

How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 15, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Fuzzy is a thousand times better than Penny Arcade. I don’t think one could try to be less funny than those guys.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jul 16, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jul 16, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 16, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

pearls before swine

is the best comic currently running IMO

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Jul 16, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

GYWO

How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 16, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny Arcade

Is one of my favorite comics. Their unbelievably hilarious rants on World of Warcraft are hilarious because they, themselves, were engulfed in its addiction.

I have followed Penny Arcade since their birth, and this just goes along with a topical view of what they thought of something from the get go. I wouldn’t take it personally that they don’t like MMA.

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by Leland Roling on Jul 15, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’ve followed them since their inception, too, and I could encourage anyone here that likes video games and hasn’t read their comics to go all the way to the first one and read them all. It will be the least productive, albeit most laughter filled, day of your life.

"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."

by Charles Awad on Jul 15, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t count the number of people that have tried to suck me into WoW.

How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 15, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is kind of like

Trying to talk to someone about rap music and all they can talk about is MC Hammer and the Sugar Hill Gang

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Jul 15, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Sort of

Only what they are saying about MMA was kind of true at one point… last century

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Jul 15, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love NASCAR, but it’s certainly true that it can be boring, they do turn left an awful lot, and it’s at least arguable whether auto racing is a sport in the same sense as a stick and ball game is. The real parallel I see is that it’s almost jarring that you can show somebody a competition that you just know implicitly to be awesome, and they can look at it and see nothing but left turns and nut punching.

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Jul 15, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I definitely can understand that

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

by Paynuss on Jul 15, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Road courses ftw.

by DirtyML on Jul 15, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is disappointing. You’d think they’d be smart enough to look into it more.

by Gong on Jul 15, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Imagine that

People believing something about a product that it markets itself as.

("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)

by mythbuster on Jul 15, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 15, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If this is how MMA is viewed by the general masses i wonder why kickboxing isnt more popular than mma? To the casual audience its mma without all the “boring” rolling around stuff. Its funny how wrestling and ground game probably get the least respect from the masses but thats what wins the most fights

by pandaboy99 on Jul 15, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Because kickboxing has the reputation of being bad boxers who throw an occasional kick.

("you don’t like Brock" – helping Weobo out)

by mythbuster on Jul 15, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kickboxing on US TV... sigh...

The ISKA events—hello Scott Coker—the ESPN aired for a while (and still occasionally reair for whatever reason) were pretty uninspiring, but when they aired a couple K-1 tournaments, one might have been forgiving for thinking the time had surely come for kick-boxing to take it’s rightful place in the American sports consciousness. One would have been completely wrong, of course. There just weren’t enough American stars, I guess. Or maybe just too many Dutch ones?

(Also of note, and with no further explanation necessary: Shidokan! ESPN2 was once so boss.)

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Jul 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I have NO idea who these people are.

And based on this exposure I should make a comic and commentary about what mouthbreathers they are.

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Jul 15, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Is mouthbreather an insult?

"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."

by Charles Awad on Jul 15, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it means Neanderthal-like, breathing with your mouth open rather than closed and breathing with your nose.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 15, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see. I like to use classics that people no longer adhere to, like bozo w/ the addition of a swear. Example: “Look at this fuckin bozo.”

"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."

by Charles Awad on Jul 15, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a bum!

Ultimate Heckling Vol. I: the Pioneers

It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.

by capital L on Jul 15, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Strumpet has always been one of my fun insults.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 15, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cock-Juggling Thunder Cunt

From Blade 3.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 16, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love Ryan Reynolds.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jul 16, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I wish roadwhore would make a comeback.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jul 16, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just signed on to play as the Hal Jordan Green Lantern and is pushing for a Deadpool movie done properly.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 16, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimo and Herring?

by Simco on Jul 15, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

rec’d

Inside leg kicks gone wrong. They need to watch more Kongo fights.

Rogan (paraphrasing): Do you have to see that again? Sigh. Yup, he got kicked in the balls.

"I'd love to be a Cheick Kongo looking brother that could actually move and do a lot of funky stuff - Jiu Jitsu, takedowns, kicks and stuff." - Jon Jones.

"The training's going great for UFC 101. I'm making sure not to overtrain." - B.J. Penn.

by outlander78 on Jul 16, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever, Joe, you used to be all about the nutshot replay.

How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 16, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

Been watching a tonne of old fights recently (Due to being a reasonably new fan) and Rogan used to beg for nut shot replays!

Guess there is a finite number that are funny, then its just empathetic pain.

by Well Read Idiot on Jul 16, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec for calling them by their proper name to

Dick kicks.

"The reason a rabbit outruns a fox is because the rabbit is running for his life and the fox is running for his dinner."

by Charles Awad on Jul 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

who invited this douchebag into our holy forum??
twenty minutes of sweaty dickpunching?
[i] have a somewhat warped idea of what human bodies can tolerate in terms of hit points.

is this guy for real?
well, if it’s caveman violence you want (freaking #$%^&*@)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJOV1yY0g7w

and i say, good day to you.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Jul 16, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

i love how bas kept thinking fry was going to go for a submission when he was in mount.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Jul 16, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

normally, and until today, i would have agreed with you, but whilst i was getting ready for my fight in august by doing some no gi grappling, one of the pro boxers (3-0) came over, and jokingly picked up his son, grabbed his ankle with one hand and said, “Alright, I don’t know any grappling, but someone show me how to do a footlock….”

All joking aside, he was aware that a footlock existed…this is a guy with 50 amateur fights, 3 pro boxing bouts to his credit…and he is aware that the ground game exists, then said that he was glad he only had to worry about hands in the ring….

the sport is slowly changing…to people who only see commercials they might think the above, but i genuinely see the attitude changing, even among fighters and trainers…..

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Jul 16, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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