UFC 101 Preview: Diego Sanchez Will Be Cage Side, Ready to Go All Brock Lesnar on the Winner of B.J. Penn vs Kenny Florian
by Kid Nate on Jul 14, 2009 1:51 PM EDT
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And it's got Cage Potato on their high horse:
Here's Diego Sanchez talking about the immediate title shot he was recently promised by the UFC:
"This comes from Lorenzo [Fertitta] and Dana [White]. They're flying me out to Philadelphia. I'll be sitting there ringside. I'll probably be in the ring afterward. It's on."Oh God, not this s--t again. While we're discussing WWE-style antics, we might as well add the "post-fight confrontation" bit to the list of things that probably shouldn't have a place in MMA competition.
The hand-wringing over Brock Lesnar's scandalous antics has been all over teh interwebs since Saturday night. Looks like the UFC is happy to cook up more of that awful awful entertainment for the fans again at UFC 101.
Good thing that Kevin Blackistone, John Ryan, Skip Bayless, Ray Ratto, and T.J. Simers and the rest of the dinosaurs will all be back to ignoring MMA then or they might have to tut tut again.
Good thing we'll have plenty of MMA writers to disagree with each other about whether or not its cool to bring a whack job stevia enthusiast like Diego Sanchez into the ring to confront a fellow whack job man known for tasting his opponent's blood after a victory (sorry Florian fans, KenFlo ain't taking the belt) right after a title fight
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Yep, for that reason I really hope BJ beats Kenny. BJ/Diego would be an octagon full of crazy, and you called it, the build up would be just as ridiculous. Maybe they could even bring their moms in to talk crap to each other. They might have to get BJ’s mom to stop thinking about GSP being eaten by wolves so she can focus on Diego.
I would love for BJ to rail against stevia like he did against steroids against Sherk.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
JESUS CHRIST ON A POGO STICK
Was it classless when Georges St Pierre did it to Matt Hughes? No. Was it ‘WWE style’ when Rashad did it to Rampage? And now it’s beyond the pale for Diego to do it, possibly to Kenny in a heat generating ploy for the rematch?
The sheer number of people trying to leech onto UFC 100 and make hay off of a nonexistent ‘controversy’ or ‘violation of the decorum of MMA competition’ is making me sick. It’s not entirely impossible to see coming, but still, here it is, and it stinks, and it stinks of people acting like barnacles.
And its got
Two words in and you fail apostrophially. Damnit.
Nothing - N-O-T-H-I-N-G – will turn those dinosaurs around. Fuck them.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 15 recs
Rec
GSP: I...I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 14, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
rec’d this as well.
certainly not an unprecedented scenario. and i think there’s a big difference between some mean mugging between two potential opponents (which is a foregone conclusion with diego anyway), and all the stuff brock did.
plus, didn’t diego make these comments prior to ufc100 and the lesnar tirade? not sure this is a case of them “cooking up” anything as a result of that event, rather than simply more of the same thing that’s been happening for years.
I had no idea that anyone anywhere thought this was a bad idea. It’s such an easy way to promote the next championship match, the fans get into it, I like it (the most important consideration of all)…I’m really stunned by this.
by An Old Friend on Jul 14, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's the perfect time
Having Diego come up and call out BJ…
Like BJ did to GSP…
Like GSP did to Hughes…
Etc., etc.
UFC 101 will be a big event, and there will be plenty of paying viewers.
The PPV buyers are the first people you want exposed to the next big fight.
Assuming Penn (90%) or Florian (10%) comes out without any serious injuries…
You’re talking about a great year end or SuperBowl weekend matchup.
Agreed
There’s a reason why they do this. It’s pre fight hype and in marketing it works. Now the Nick Diaz pre fight hype that they did awhile ago in some other organization was pretty gay and obviously setup and totally pre planned it seemed. The UFC knows the correct way to do this cause it gets me going everytime and I know that it’s just marketing. I’m not impressed with your performance! Classic!
Kenny will kill the Master (BJ)...
But can he bust the nut (Diego)?
A true MMA fan from the great state of Arkansas.
You are clearly delusional my man!
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I personally love it when they do this. Though it does bother me that it takes away from the fighters celebration. I think the way they brought in Thiago when GSP beat BJ was done in good taste. GSP had plenty of time to celebrate and jump around and had a full interview with Joe. When BJ did it to GSP I think it was way too fast and took away from his moment. Just IMO.
Diego faceoff against a bloodlicking BJ will be entertaining.
GSP: I...I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
“Let’s get it, Homie!!!”
GSP: I...I pulled my groin.
Greg Jackson: I don't care Georges! HIT HIM WITH YOUR GROIN!
by xFenixKnightx on Jul 14, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 14, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The UFC isn’t really doing anything new. Look back at PRIDE and the way they promoted fights – prime example: Rampage/W Silva. I mean, come on, that was clearly staged, but it generated a lot of interest.
Fans of the UFC better get used to it. For better or for worse, that’s not gonna change now. We’ve seen it more and more over the last year – more shoving matches at the weigh-ins, only to have an “all out brawl” broken up by Dana of all people? HAHA.. Now, I’m not saying there isn’t any real tension in those weigh-ins, but the frequency of incidents of late is very telling, to me anyway.
When they brought Rashad into the octagon to face off with Rampage, I rolled my eyes, but I couldn’t help but laugh, and guess what? Now I want to see them fight more than previously, even though Rashad isn’t wearing the belt. Call me a sucker if you wanna, but the UFC is smart when it comes to promoting stuff, even to the point where they (Dana) act like they DON’T LIKE the outbursts ala Brock Lesnar. Clearly, that Ogre has drawn tons of interest, mainly from people who want to see him get beat down.
As far as Kenflo & BJ – I’m picking BJ. Not to discount Kenny’s skills, but BJ is ridiculously dominant at 155, and he’s an animal when he’s in shape.
don't you know that to compare UFC to the sacred PRIDE is heresy?
When PRIDE did it it was theatre and magic!
When the UFC does it its crass and barbaric.
Let’s watch Shogun head stomp some cans now. Look at the honor they display as they take their brain trauma.
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by Kid Nate on Jul 14, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Are you alright Nate?
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Jul 14, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, I think he’s having an off day.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
That was fantastic.
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really saying whether it’s good or bad. I mean, other people will tell you I had a stick up my @ss after Brock’s spectacle on Saturday. I don’t like him, and I don’t like his antics, but I can’t deny the drawing power. I just sorta decided that I can either sit around and be bitter about it, or just take comfort in the fact that the UFC HW division is exciting again, all because of one fat-headed goon who knows how to work people, and who has pissed off (who I think to be) his biggest threat in the division (currently…) – Shane Carwin.
Personally I think anyone’s crazy if they don’t wanna see that fight.
Side note: Is Brock Lesnar related to Barry Bonds? HAHAHA HA Haaaa?
I don’t understand why people are all butthurt over what Lesnar did. He said it felt great to beat on Mir and get some revenge, and I’m sure it did. Not everyone’s going to be all respectful to their opponent after a huge victory, some people just aren’t built that way.
Staying more on topic, this is a great way to build a little heat for an upcoming show. Boxing would do it if they had any idea who would be facing who next. Unfortunately in boxing you usually have to wait weeks or months to find out who your favorite boxer is fighting next, and then another few weeks for them to hopefully work out a contract. If they could just pop the next opponent into the ring to start the buildup for the next fight right away you know they would.
“I wuz not imprezzed by your performance”
BJ has been really calm and humble (right word?) lately. No shit talking and a lot of “I’m excited about this fight.” If BJ wins I dont think he’ll go nuts like he used to. If he wins, the most we’ll get is Diego saying how thrilled he is to try to take the title.
Now if someone the SLIGHTEST BIT insults Sanchez, we’re gonna get that mean mug he delivered to Clay Guida.
I’d post the pic but I’m at work.
Nate, you're getting killed in the poll
Haha.. But seriously, I don’t see the problem with any of this behaviour. Boxing promoters wish they could set up future bouts like this. And I resent the idea that fighters should be forced to speak or act a certain way. Some of them will say and do things we don’t like, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. I’ve long said that I don’t want everyone to have to hug and bow as a formality after every single bout. Sometimes a Marcus Davis will storm off angrily and leave Dan Hardy hanging, Steve Cantwell will theatrically motion that he snapped Al Razak Hassan’s arm to all four sections of the arena (which I hated, and was faaaaar more pro wrestling-esque than anything Brock has ever done in the octagon) and Brock Lesnar will do what Brock Lesnar does… Who among us wants Brock to look over at a nodding Dana, look back towards the camera and say “Shane Carwin is a great guy and I hope we can be friends after this. After the press conference I hope he’ll let me buy him a Bud Light.” I fuckin don’t..
I poop rainbows.
Me neither. But people trying to make hay over it not happening like that? That’s six or seven times worse.
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
a) You won’t hear me saying that the UFC shouldn’t give Brock the mic after a fight. Let the man talk. That said,
b) I like it when people who are idiots get a chance to show off their idiocy.
My point isn’t that the UFC shouldn’t allow Brock to talk like that. It’s that Brock is a jerk.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jul 14, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t need my MMA fighters to be non-jerks. I can like both.
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
See, I draw a number of lines in my fandom. One is steroid use. (Sorry Stephan.) Another is homophobia. (See ya, Brock.) That’s me.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I get it that people don’t like Brock; so don’t like Brock. It’s the self righteous indignation of so many individuals around here that seem to suggest you can’t dually be a serious enthusiast of mixed martial arts and like watching Brock Lesnar fight. It’s as tiring as the MMA snobs who tout Affliction and Sengoku as the cream of the crop. I’m not talking about you, specifically, but the constant warring over whether or not people can like Lesnar is a bit silly.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Jul 14, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I certainly think people CAN like Brock.
(That sounds pretty reasonable for me – but wait, I’m going to make it worse again.)
I’m just going to assume that if somebody support a homophobe, it’s because he or she is cool with that kind of vocal homophobia. And form my opinions accordingly.
But I’m willing to be convinced otherwise.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
So are we to assume
that you have no disagreements about anyone of your friends/relatives points of view about life choices? Enjoying watching a fighter perform is not supporting that person. Did you boycott the HW title fight in an effort to not support Senor Homophobe? lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Uh, that doesn’t make any sense. I don’t HAVE to be a fan of any particular fighter. I get to choose, like anyone. Family? I didn’t get to pick them.
LUCKILY all of my immediate family agrees with me on this stuff.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I was not talking about you being a fan bud.
I meant people not having to support a fighters points of view simply because they enjoy watching him fight. And that is why I wrote “friends/family”, like I am certain that each of us have different points of view on these issues with our friends, but we still call them our friends.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Man, any friend of mine that said, “I don’t like gay people”? Wouldn’t be my friend.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Me too
Your family aren’t your friends and neither is Brock Lesnar. Also, if you don’t like Lesnar on account of that comment, what must you think about Matt Hughes?
I poop rainbows.
I mean, I fucking hate Nate
for all of these retarded polls, but I will still support his work here! lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 14, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bet I will still register a vote
no matter the topic. Nate, you had me at hello! lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
This was damn funny.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 14, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I also dislike Matt Hughes!
Good call.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I actually dislike Matt Hughes because he goes a lot further than Brock and is much more vocal about it. But I still love to watch him fight and rooted for him against Serra. I guess a fighters character doesn’t always effect what I think of his abilities.
I poop rainbows.
Wait: being a fan and recognizing that somebody is a good fighter are two different things. I’m a fan of Mayhem Miller. (Mock if you will.) I buy his Triumph United T-shirts. I follow his tweets. I root for him. But if he were going up against Anderson Silva, I wouldn’t bet my house on him.
As mentioned previously: I’m not a fan of Lesnar. I’m slightly a fan of Mir. But if pressed, I’d have put my money on Lesnar. That doesn’t make me a fan.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Well you are a lucky or I guess very picky
person when it comes to friends if you have no differences of opinion with your friends then.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
No differences of opinion on important issues. (I mean, I don’t even have more than a couple friends that voted McCain.) How am I gonna hang out with my gay friends and friends that hate gays? Not a recipe for fun, I imagine.
How sad it must be to have such a dearth of choices for friends that you have to hang out with Jimmy the Nazi and Sammy “I Hate Fags” Jones! :-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
it makes perfect sense, you just got caught with your foot in your mouth. if someone is a fan of lesner it doesnt mean they support(or even know) his views on ANYTHING.
by sadface on Jul 14, 2009 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And although I enjoy your being
a smartass on here & find it amusing as hell. I do not support that kind of behavior, just sayin.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Really
So is it because he’s a homophobe or that he was once vocal about it? I hope you don’t like football, because I’m willing to bet most anything that one of those d00dz doesn’t agree with homosexuality.
Good thing I’m not electing Brock to office and I, you know, like how he punches people’s faces real good.
I poop rainbows.
I mean if we only watched athletes
who we agreed with all of their points of view, it would be a very short list. Personally, while I do not agree with Brock’s views on the gay lifestyle, I too must confess that I LOVED watching him smash Mir’s face in.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I’m lucky enough not to have time for football of any other sport outside of MMA. Let’s face it: when you factor in the amount of time I spend talking shit about Brock online, I barely have time to get to know my 2…. 3? 2? shit… kids!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
oh I don't like Brock at all
but I enjoy rooting against him very much.
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(That so woulda gotten recs if I had posted it last night.)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Jemal,
Supporting someone in a sport in no way whatsoever means that you agree with ANYTHING that they agree with.
I dare say that in this stance, you would be in the vast minority. To say that I support homophobic points of view because I like to watch Brock fight is completely wrong on your part. Seriously.
Additionally, hating someone for their point of view is wrong, especially if it is a result of their circumstances growing up. It could be the case that in the place Brock was raised, homophobia was rampant and his values were instilled at an early age. It would also be an exceptionally sore point with him due to him rolling around with guys his entire life.
As subo so succinctly said, I don’t need my cagefighters to be nice guys. If they fight well, and get me interested in their next fight, I will support them.
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 15, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
“I dare say that in this stance, you would be in the vast minority. To say that I support homophobic points of view because I like to watch Brock fight is completely wrong on your part. Seriously.”
Enjoying watching somebody, picking them to win – none of that means being a fan of somebody. I personally despise Matt Hughes, but that doesn’t make me an idiot who picks against him or thinks he has nothing to offer the sport.
Fan (look it up) is short for “fanatic.” Are you FANATICAL about Brock? Would you choose to use the brands that sponsor Brock out of loyalty to him? Would you write a letter to those sponsors to thank them for supporting him? Because that’s the kind of thing a fan does.
Saying, “Man, Brock is gonna kid so-and-so’s ass”? Not a fan.
“Additionally, hating someone for their point of view is wrong, especially if it is a result of their circumstances growing up.”
What, are you suggesting he was touched up by a funny uncle or something? :-)
“It could be the case that in the place Brock was raised, homophobia was rampant and his values were instilled at an early age.”
Oh, I see your confusion. We aren’t Pavlov’s dogs. We aren’t animals that are trained and conditioned and unable to change. That’s the thing about humans: we can learn.
Look: I didn’t grow up in the Castro in San Francisco. I grew up (in part: age 8-14) in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan – an environment just like the small town Brock is from. I cannot tell you how bigoted some of the people up there were. People just HATED blacks – and there was exactly one black guy within 150 miles. (Down in Iron Mountain – worked at the McDonald’s. Maybe he spit in somebody’s fries, I dunno.) And let’s not get started on gays, jews, or Finlanders.
But shit, I grew up. I met people. I confronted my prejudices. I joined super-liberal organizations like “THE MILITARY” where I got to know gays and lesbians and work alongside them. I evolved.
I’m sorry, but if you’ve made it to the ripe old age of 32 and haven’t figured out that gay people are just people like everyone else, that’s not your upbringing. That’s you.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I see your point, but we can’t give people too much credit. It takes a person of a certain intelligence to realise their predjudiced views are wrong, and change them. Not everyone is able to let things like that go, especially if they are instilled at an early age.
Will agree to disagree on the ‘fan’ issue. I would wear a Brock T-shirt because I like the way he fights, with absolutely no thought about what his views on divisive issues are. If he were a POSTERBOY of some sort for a cause I was against, it would be different. But for simply disagreeing with me on a sensitive issue and admitting to it, that is fine in my book.
Also, yes we have no way of knowing if he was touched as a kid, or what else happened to him when he was young which is (kind of) what I am getting at.
by Well Read Idiot on Jul 16, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously everybody is counting out Kenflo?
My bet is BJ leaves the octagon with Kenny’s elbows imprinted in his face. I was never a BJ fan even B4 all the “grease gate” " Im telling my mom on you antics" I really think much in the same way that Matt Hughes has fallen from the top, so will BJ.
by despisedIcon856 on Jul 14, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
"Seriously everybody is counting out Kenflo?"
Yes.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Not being a BJ fan
does not mean I would not take him over anyone in his division right now, unless GSP drops down to throw him a beating again. It will be REDRUM time for KenFlo.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Indeed. And even after GSP spanked the shit out of him, I’d pick him over most welterweights.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Did you just use “the vapors”? Fucking win.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
For the record, it’s ‘the vapuhs’.
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by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This flowah has wilted.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 14, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t wait, either way it should be pretty funny.
Sanchez is a fucking nutcase but damn if it doesn’t bring it.. So you have him to smack talk with someone who he beat already (epic) or smack talk with someone who has already proven that he’s good at hyping a fight (more epic). The UFC is in a win win situation here in terms of starting hype for a fight that hasn’t even been booked yet.
I’m not rooting for Penn to win, but I will admit that I would thoroughly enjoy the buildup that would occur once they made the Penn-Diego fight for the title. It would be epic.
Personally, I like to have fights with the trash talking and buildup. It’s a good counter-balance to fights like GSP-Alves, which have 2 guys who respect each other and aren’t giving any soundbytes.
Where’s the ‘I dont give a shit about any of this stuff anymore, I just wanna watch some fights!’ option?
by -Sam on Jul 14, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"Don't be Scared, Homie"
Nick Diaz to KJ Noons after Noons won his belt. I like a bit of heat, just so long as it’s legit, & Diaz is about the most honest fighter out there.
Shameless self-promotion! http://twitter.com/scb0212
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 14, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
This is better
Kenny mastered his riddum, and Bj is weak against riddum, so don’t count him out yet. Oh what were we talking about? Oh yeah, I need a link on this stevia affair cause I feel left out anytime someone brings it up, thanks.
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Not sure if the odds change buy BJ is a -105 right now over there. I just laid most of my bankroll.
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Damn. That might need to be jumped on.
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 14, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with hype
There is nothing wrong with all the different type of fighters we have.
MMA has
Brock (people boo him and he uses that energy against them)
GSP (the highly respected MMA fighter who everyone loves)
Randy (Captain America ’nuff said)
Rampage (charismatic individual who people love to watch no matter what)
Diego (crazy guy who is super talented but weird)
Machida (soft spoken guy who brought karate back to the lime light)
Fitch (respectable guy who just fights)
The point I am trying to say is that it is good that fighters have different ways of hyping up fights.
If not, it would be real boring. Boring = less $$. Less $$ = less $$ for fighters. There is a balance, so no worries.
Oh god I can't wait
Diego is insane, and it all comes spilling out every time he opens his mouth.
I can just see it now, his “walk to the cage” stare, and the slow… spaced… words… the constant, metronome-like head shake going the whole time… it’s gonna be great.
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