Being on that band wagon includes hating on Mir.

but I think Mir’s statements in this article don’t honestly cut to the point of why he lost. Mir admitted at some point to letting a good wrestler get wrist control while on the ground, and that was a big mistake. I believe this, more than the weight difference, caused the punishment he received while stuck in that half-nelson, side-control position Lesnar maintained. Perhaps he didn’t feel like repeating himself, and everything else he said was wishful thinking on Mir’s part.

I can see where Mir is going here, on the feet he did look good (that flying knee was awesome). The only problem he had was once he was on the ground he couldn’t get out from under Lesnar, that made me sad. I think Mir had a good chance if he could keep the fight standing.

it’s the high school mentality around here. You either agree (pretend or otherwise) with those who ramble the most, or you get piled on by those trying to fit in. There’s nothing wrong with what Mir said, but since he’s the bad guy and Brock is untouchable – you get this nonsense.

rec’d.

do you want to see Mir vs Nog 2 so soon though? i know he was hurt the first time, but i wouldnt mind seeing Mir drop a little further and fight someone more like Herring.

Lesnar said he was seeing “tweetie birds” after the flying knee for a couple seconds

That would be awesome, but I think it would end up as a primarily stand up fight with both guys ground games negating the others.

Haha :)

rocked Brock a bit. I don’t think badly, but enough that you noticed it the first time you watched the fight.

Exactly. He really thinks his first win was because of skill and Brock not making a mistake. Now he is calling mistake and still trying to downplay Brock.

Maybe you should hit harder Frank.

I never saw the actual fight, but from that gif alone, it looked like Mir’s stand-up was acually beating Lesnar for that short amount of time, and then when the takedown came, I thought Mir could have submitted him there.

Very nice.

Hop on the Lesnar bandwagon he’s still 1-1 vs. Frank Mir… MMA fans (mainly UFC) are chomping at the bit for another “unbeatable” fighter ( Machida Era, Fedor is a “cyborg/superhero/god”, etc, etc)…. and Brock is filling the void of superstars such as Chuck, and Tito… It’s a shame fans feel entitled to be such pricks, and fighters like Mir (and Brock for that matter) get crucified for saying anything….. Keyboard warriors everywhere seem to know everything about fighting, and game-planning, and training… It seems as if the need to be correct, and the disdain they have for some fighters turns them into assholes…

Frank isn’t a bad guy, or a bad fighter… He was on the biggest stage of his career thus far and came up short against a Monster of a fighter whom he had been victorious against, previously… If he wants to look at the positives about this fight, then he has every right to…

Mir was great when he caught Lesnar with the kneebar in their first fight. But if he is unable to catch him in a sub, all that we will see is more the same beatdowns that we have seen in the first two.

nah i would rather see carwin followed by either a couture rematch or nog getting a shot, and then i would like 2 see a better all around fighter in fedor

He was beating the living shit out of Mir the first time doing that exact same thing, which is the strength of his game. Why would he change his approach? The only thing that he needed to work on was control & sub defense. I think that it says a lot about how Lesnar thinks of himself that he did not come out & try to only strike just because he KO’d Couture.

Or both – the lying minority.

I’m a lying minority?

The Heath Herring fight was Brock’s crucible, if you will. The whole point was for him to pace himself, mix up his striking and GnP, and work on top control. Once he went a whole 15 minutes without going crazy, I knew that would be his preferred style. A guy like Carwin probably looks to stay on his feet with his wrestling and knock people’s heads off, but Brock is content to smother and grind opponents into the mat.

I absolutely thought he would look to take the fight to the ground. I just thought he would get a few more good shots off on the feet before he made that transition, but hey, whatever works.

He is huge wrestler with huge reach & power. His safest bet would always be to take the guy down, control him & beat him into submission. I do not know about you, but I at no time ever expected Lesnar to stand & trade with Mir for one round, much less 5. And if Mir thought that he would, which is fucking ridiculous, then he should fire all of his coaches. And anyone surprised that a career wrestler would take an MMA fight to the ground is an idiot. He did what he was supposed to do, that is work on top control & sub defense. That was the only thing that stopped him from winning the first time, so it seems to me that was a very good recipe for winning.