Quote of the Day: Frank Mir "Within A Half-An-Inch of Catching Brock Lesnar"

"When Lesnar didn't come after me, that really threw me off." "He didn't land any punches on his feet, did he?" "I didn't expect him to run." "He ran like a lightweight. ... It's my fault. I should have trained that he would be intimidated from the standup" fighting position."
"When I chased him (in the second round), that's what changed my game plan." "I basically was (within) a half-an-inch of catching him." "I knew he was hurt, but he had good leverage, with my shoulder against the cage." "I made a stupid mistake."
"If I can just nail that weight gap to even 10 pounds, it'll be a different fight next time."
-- Frank Mir, already planning to train for a "rubber match" rematch against Brock Lesnar.
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So Mir is gonna add 25 pounds of muscle? Good luck with that.
Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
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by ufc4 on Jul 13, 2009 10:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This worries me
because if Mir is saying all this, then maybe he doesn’t really understand why he lost.
by rzor on Jul 13, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think i’ll eat anything and everything up when it comes to someone saying they can beat lesnar. i was excited after reading the full interview then i come in here and read the comments before me and it pulls me back down to earth…
by MicahW on Jul 13, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see that Frank still has the fire.
He’s gonna need it. (Reality is that every UFC fight is 1/2 inch from going either way. One bomb ends it.)
by jrobb20 on Jul 13, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does Mir instantly get hated on?
I didn’t see much wrong with what he said… He WAS classy in defeat, as he didn’t take away from Brock’s victory… Mir said what he felt, without disrespecting the fans or the sport… He admitted that he underestimated Brock’s strength, top control, and game plan; he even admits to being hurt pretty bad in the first round, and then expresses a desire to get back to training and preparing for a rubber match…. Whats the big deal? Cuz he said he almost caught him (Brock admits to being dazed for just a moment after the knee I believe), or because he wants to put on some muscle and supplement his strength?
I’d love to see Mir get a couple wins and get another fight with Brock (even if he loses the trilogy)… Determination, and desire is something that Mir needs to continue growing as a fighter… He has improved so much in regards to his training, and has looked in progressively better physical shape each fight… I think his window for improvement is as wide as anyone in the hw division (he’s only 29 or 30 right?),,, and if his skill-set improves along with his conditioning, he could contend with almost anyone, and maintain his status as a top heavyweight.
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
A lot of folks are on the Lesnar band wagon right now.
Being on that band wagon includes hating on Mir.
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by Warhand on Jul 13, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing to do with a bandwagon,
More of “I shouldve trained that Brock would be intimidated standing” and “he ran like a lightweight”
If you guys call that classy,then I’m probably the classiest guy on earth.. And that isn’t me hating on Mir or jumping on brock’s bandwagon. That’s me reacting to a guy sounding like a sore loser.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I’m sorry but after all the classless crap Lesnar said after the fight, Mir could say Lesnar’s mom is a 2 cent whore and still sound classy
by DJ Soma on Jul 13, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Attacking a guys mom as being a whore is worse than saying a guy was lucky and making a crack about a sponsor? Reality is hard sometimes
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jul 13, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
Mir was never a pro wrestler, so it’s not like his whole life is tainted.
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by subo on Jul 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so not only do we get to tell these guy how they have to behave, what they have to say, but also how they make their living? People need to get over the fact that he was a pro wrestler. I think it bothers people much more that he’s not a struggling athlete. he’s made millions already, and he will make many, many more. because of that IMO, he’s going to act how he wants, and will probably sell more PPV’s and tickets because of it. He’s the new Tito, the guy everyone loves to hate, and when his skill catches up to his persona….GOOD GOD! I’m happy theres a new breed of Heavyweight fighter.
by erogers72 on Jul 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir being classier than Brock doesn't make him classy.
Sorry dude, but It doesn’t work that way.. And since when did attacking his mom better than the smack talk Brock did?
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s me reacting to a guy sounding like a sore loser.
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by funnytiger on Jul 13, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it’s no different than Brock saying he “gave” Mir that kneebar. ;)
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by RearNakedChoker on Jul 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it's a lot different
Brock doesn’t insult Frank when he says that, he’s stating that he made a mistake.
by Captain7 on Jul 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is it not insulting to imply that Mir didn’t get the kneebar based on his own talent? That Brock “gave” it to him. Mir “gave” Brock that win on Saturday, too. Mir made a mistake also, in that he let Brock repeatedly smash his face in.
It’s all a bunch of shit talking and sore losership anyways. Just bring on the rubber match already. :)
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by RearNakedChoker on Jul 13, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock made a “minor” mistake when he gave Mir the Kneebar. It was only minor because it was the direct result of his losing the match, and not the direct cause of him losing his life. That would be a ‘major’ mistake.
by Dooda on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like it or not weoweoweo....
You are on the Lesnar bandwagon. I’m not judging you for it. I am on the Machida bandwagon, the Jose Aldo bandwagon, the Rashad Evans bandwagon and I am climbing onto the Terry Etim bandwagon as I type this. I think that being on a bandwagon means that you have accepted the loss of a certain degree of objectivity when it comes to whatever fighter it is at the moment fighter.
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by Warhand on Jul 14, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude!
You cannot have seriously watched that fight & believe that anything Mir said in these comments were true. If the reverse happened & Lesnar was saying these things everyone would have been all over him. The truth is that anyone who had their ass stomped like that & came out with these comments after should get blasted.
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by dnevil001 on Jul 13, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon?
wow, I’ll admit I don’t like Mir much, but I don’t hate the man, I have great respect for the mans talent. However, to come out and say that he had Brock within a half an inch is only making excuses for the fact that the man either didn’t take Brock as serious as he should, or the plain and simple fact that he got owned, and just can’t live up to what actually happened. This has nothing to do with him being classy in defeat, the fact that he said this makes him look like Brock did when he said he gave Mir that knee bar.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I don’t understand why these things can’t be said? Brock made a dumb mistake, and basically gave Mir his leg… Mir was striking with Brock on his feet, and barely missed with a few shots, and also through a huge knee that slightly dazed Brock (not like he was in trouble, but it was a big knee from a big man to a big head lol). What is the big deal? Mir did make the running comment, but he also got KO’d and then berated by a Gorilla named Brock… I just think people react to harshly to comments made by these fighters… How do you want him to feel? What should he have said that he didn’t already say?
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then stop being a hypocrite n don’t get all pissy over brock when he says shit like that and everything will be fine.
i mean your calling brock a gorilla in your post so u obviously already have a negative bias against him.
both of these guys are really cocky jocks so i dont want 2 hear any crap bout how classy mir is when he says stuff like"i had him crying when i put him in my kneebar".“he ran like a lightweight”“i should’ve been prepared for him 2 be intimidated of me and it’s not like he ever hit me during the standup right”
i want mir to be classy and brock to be classy,but i don’t want is double standards for fighters b/c of people’s personal biases
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way Loot i wasn’t referring to you at all as being a hypocrite.
it was a general statement to the media reaction and reactions of earlier posts,your post just happened 2 be ahead of mine,so there’s no confusion
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really wanted Mir to win
but I think Mir’s statements in this article don’t honestly cut to the point of why he lost. Mir admitted at some point to letting a good wrestler get wrist control while on the ground, and that was a big mistake. I believe this, more than the weight difference, caused the punishment he received while stuck in that half-nelson, side-control position Lesnar maintained. Perhaps he didn’t feel like repeating himself, and everything else he said was wishful thinking on Mir’s part.
by rzor on Jul 13, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see where Mir is going here, on the feet he did look good (that flying knee was awesome). The only problem he had was once he was on the ground he couldn’t get out from under Lesnar, that made me sad. I think Mir had a good chance if he could keep the fight standing.
by DJ Soma on Jul 13, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mir had a good chance if he could keep the fight standing.
I’m not so sure. I didn’t see Brock really get phased even by the leaping knee, but maybe he did and I just didn’t see it cause he took Mir to the ground so fast right after he got hit.
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by funnytiger on Jul 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll say that I think Mir did stun him with either the first knee, or the ‘flying knee’ before he got taken down and KO’d. Brock even admitted to seeing a bird or something like that. But the thing is, Brock immediately took him down, got half-guard, and waited five seconds or so for the fog to clear. Then he KO’d the guy.
It doesn’t take anywhere near the lucidity to administer vicious GnP as it does to engage in a wide-open stand-up striking match. Brock isn’t inhuman, but his overall skillset and tools are just too much for a guy like Mir to handle.
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by misterjonez on Jul 13, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was stunned...
that’s when the instincts kicked in and he took him straight to the floor.
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by ANance on Jul 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simply put
it’s the high school mentality around here. You either agree (pretend or otherwise) with those who ramble the most, or you get piled on by those trying to fit in. There’s nothing wrong with what Mir said, but since he’s the bad guy and Brock is untouchable – you get this nonsense.
rec’d.
by mythbuster on Jul 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brock said that you'd be all
“what a douchebag! A homophobic arrogant douchebag!”
(don’t deny it.. No one’s gonna believe you haha)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Brock did say the same, after the first fight – that Mir didn’t win, Brock gave him the fight. The fact you choose to forget it is doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Oh by the way, as I told someone else, just say “hater” and move on. Pointing out that I don’t like Brock is neither creative nor does it serve a purpose other than to show how much you try to be like Subo. haha.
by mythbuster on Jul 13, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s cute. For the record, weo is a dirty Vera lover and you are a very petty person.
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by subo on Jul 14, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know he said that..
and you didn’t like brock for that.. so that’s fair.. but now Mir does it, it’s okay..
and hey man.. don’t compare me to subo.. THAT SHIT HURTS.. haha. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 14, 2009 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
consider me on the "anyone but lesnar" wagon
i’m old school, i’ve been hating lesnar since ’08
by MicahW on Jul 13, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What makes most sense to me is Mir vs winner of nog/couture and winner of that getting title shot, since carwin or valasquez will get next shot
by kanodogg on Jul 13, 2009 10:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
do you want to see Mir vs Nog 2 so soon though? i know he was hurt the first time, but i wouldnt mind seeing Mir drop a little further and fight someone more like Herring.
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by MicahW on Jul 13, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Kongo vs Mir.
It would be a great test for both fighters.. Mir has improved leaps and bounds in his striking, but will he be able to do that against a very dangerous guy like Kongo?
Kongo has somewhat improved on his takedown D but he still got manhandled by Cain. Mir has an obvious advantage on the ground, but he isn’t as good as Cain at takedowns. Can Mir take him down and sub him? Can Kongo beat the improved striking game of Mir?
I don’t know about you guys, but I do want to find out.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Kongo/Mir.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 13, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in for Kongo/Mir, as well. Both second-tier guys coming off pretty sound losses.
by SMC on Jul 13, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herring-Mir would be fun too
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by Kid Nate on Jul 13, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a fight i see Mir taking, but I like how far he’d fall in competition. it would give couture/nog a shot at lesnar & cain/carwin before Mir would put together 2-3 in a row and time to bulk up before another shot at lesnar.
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by MicahW on Jul 13, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t there some type of beef between Mir and Herring? I remember watching a video of Herring on raw vegas and he said that Mir wouldn’t train with him but I forget the reason why.
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by The Legend on Jul 13, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe now they can find some common ground, sharing war stories about the time Brock smashed their face in.
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by ufc4 on Jul 13, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be very interested in a Mir/Kongo fight, but not in a Mir/Nog rematch and really nothing warrents that at this time. I do think Mir is a little delusional with these comments.
by metaldome on Jul 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir/Nog II would absolutely be warranted if Nog comes out and looks impressive in his next fight. Doesn’t really matter if he wins or not, I don’t think. Just prove that his reflexes are back, and that fight becomes a whole lot more interesting.
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by misterjonez on Jul 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it would give nog a chance to redeem himself on his way to a title shot, that is if he can beat couture. Can’t think of anyone else for nog or couture to fight while carwin or valasquez fight lesnar.
by kanodogg on Jul 13, 2009 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
"I knew he was hurt"
When exactly was Lesnar hurt in this fight?
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by dnevil001 on Jul 13, 2009 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar said he was seeing “tweetie birds” after the flying knee for a couple seconds
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by The Legend on Jul 13, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said that?
It looked like it did connect pretty hard.. If it was another guy with a smaller head Mir probably wouldve dropped him.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar said
for a half second to a second, I know I’m splitting hairs here but…
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright,
well even conceding that (which I did not notice while watching the fight) Lesnar did not stop when that knee landed & for Mir to say he was hurt is laughable.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 13, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take Mir/Gonzaga. Would be pretty great to see a Heavyweight grappling clinic.
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by MMAMoneyLine on Jul 13, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome, but I think it would end up as a primarily stand up fight with both guys ground games negating the others.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jul 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not too sure about that
Gonzaga’s BJJ is better then Mir’s, and his stand up is pretty good too, but I guess we’d have to see how it unfolds, it would be an awesome fight.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to say proflex,
I agree with on basically everything, but as far as BJJ, I would say Mir’s is more impressive. But just by alil bit. As far as stand-up, the obvious advantage would be Gonzaga in my opinion. That punch that rocked Carwin and broke his nose was vicious, along with the CroCop head kick. The only problem I see is that his chin looked a bit suspect against Couture, Carwin, and Werdum. But just a personal opinion.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was refering to
his over all BJJ, not as an MMA aspect, I’m pretty sure Gonzaga has a higher degree, now come fight time we’ve all seen what that says for fighters, usually nothing.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
Like Gonzaga is probably more experienced and skilled in a pure BJJ way but Mir is better in that he can utilize it in an MMA fight more often than not?
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
basically what I was thinking but couldn’t get it into words for some strange reason.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries
took me a bit of re-reading over and over just to make sure that even made sense.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know who has the better jiu-jitsu, but I would certainly say that Mir’s is much more unorthodox, which could be both good and bad against a guy like Gonzaga.
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by Rundownloser on Jul 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read the whole article and I don’t see anything wrong with what Mir said. This is a real sport and not an entertaining sport like WWE. I know some people like what Brock did but I didn’t and I don’t think it helps MMA overall.
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 13, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I find that real interesting, since it's coming from a huge Tito fan.
Haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a huge Tito fan but yeah I am a fan
the only thing I really didn’t like was the flipping the fans off and the sponsor crack – I still feel that MMA is in its infancy and this may not help the sport become more acceptable
BTW I haven’t watched pro wrasslin’ since I was a kid so I have no idea what Brock’s story was when he was in the WWE
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 13, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diaz and Tito do crazy shit too.
I just assumed those who are fans of them are the guys who are okay with those kinds of antics.
by Anton Tabuena on Jul 13, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diaz is for real
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by lovingmma25 on Jul 13, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir saying this is like Lesnar saying he gave Mir the knee bar in the first fight. Yes Mir is a great fighter, but statements like this make him look foolish, because if he has no idea what actually happened in that fight, he should go back and watch how Lesnar owned him for nearly the entire fight from the top.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said,
I agree with you on basically everything. Haha
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've gotta point out what I perceive as a difference
between what Mir is saying, and Brock saying he ‘gave him that kneebar.’
The kneebar is an old, well-recognized and accepted joint lock submission that pretty much anybody who has ever trained jits knows the basics of how to defend. Lesnar violated every single rule regarding lower limb defense during the final seconds of their first fight. It would be like standing square to a collegiate wrestler with your hands high during a takedown tournament, you just don’t do it because it does so much to screw up your defensive options. He can attack either leg, your hips and he’s got options for hip throws that you just can’t do anything about. These mistakes are examples of violating basic principles that everyone learns early on in their training.
What Brock did to Mir was, as far as I can tell, unprecedented as far as administering GnP. Sure, he’s a big, strong guy. Sure, it’s never a good idea to let someone with a hand/grip combo like he has get a hold of your limbs. But we’d never seen someone finish a fight with a reverse half-nelson, followed by far side wrist control. So Mir didn’t give him anything, Brock just pulled something new out for the fight, and Mir had no idea what to do until it was over and he’d studied the tape for awhile.
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by misterjonez on Jul 13, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was only refering
to Mir’s comments, and how they sounded foolish as Lesnars did with the knee bar. I wasn’t implying anything in regards of Lesnars lack of BJJ recognition in what should have been a basic submission. The things is, and this is as I see it, Mir got handled all fight long, and is now making excuses, like Lesnar did, for getting completely destroyed.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't so much directing my comment
at you, as I was outlining something peripheral to the issue you were discussing.
But yeah, it’s poor sportsmanship to never give credit to your opponent when they defeat you. This used to absolutely infuriate me about the New York Yankees, they would never say “Oh yeah, they just had our number tonight and took us behind the shed.” It was always “We failed to execute in the field, and really we lost this game all by ourselves.”
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by misterjonez on Jul 13, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see it...
Lesnar was obviously working his game plan in the 1st, and then decided to stand with Mir in the 2nd.
Mir landed a few good shots, and a really good clean flying knee on the chin from the clinch that looked like they phased Brock a bit.
You can see Lesnar needed a few seconds to catch his witts before he started hammering on the cornered Mir.
by haggardhero on Jul 13, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
rocked Brock a bit. I don’t think badly, but enough that you noticed it the first time you watched the fight.
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by misterjonez on Jul 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir was’n at the restaurant, but he got served.
after 15months of trashtalk it’s time to shut up now (for a while). saying he was intimidated and run like a lightweight… and made one mistake, correction Mir. you made one in the first, and you made exactly the same mistake in the second… Mir run his mouth for 15mounths and 2 days after he got his ass wooped, he starts running his mouth again. oh well, at least he was quiet for a day.
by lvl on Jul 13, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. He really thinks his first win was because of skill and Brock not making a mistake. Now he is calling mistake and still trying to downplay Brock.
Maybe you should hit harder Frank.
by IncomingF5 on Jul 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Half an inch"...
just for a second…
just to see what hamburger-face feels like.
A large part of the old-school UFC fan base has been experiencing growing pains ever since Brock signed on. The great irony here is that those that fixate on bringing the Lesnar hate are playing right into Brock’s self adopted role as the UFC heel. Folks will always hate him in large numbers and he will continue bring even larger numbers to his next fight.
Dana is no dummy when it comes to growing his biz and he has no allegiance with Brock like he does with Bonner. The moment that Zuffa thinks Brock is hurting their brand, (and/or wallets) he’ll be gone. Until then it’s clobberin’ time!
by fatbackribs on Jul 13, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Delusional. LOL.
Those punches must have knocked a couple screws lose.
by IncomingF5 on Jul 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can one of the mods embed this gif?
http://i28.tinypic.com/2pytc2g.gif
It might help some of you understand what Mir was talking about.
by zeke21 on Jul 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damnnnnnnnnn!
I never saw the actual fight, but from that gif alone, it looked like Mir’s stand-up was acually beating Lesnar for that short amount of time, and then when the takedown came, I thought Mir could have submitted him there.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound surprised....
that Mir was outstriking Lesnar… that surpises me. When the hell did Lesnar have good stand-up? 280 pounds of muscle can obviously cause damage but his striking skills are very limited.
by zeke21 on Jul 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently,
everyone on the UFC Countdown said that if Mir stood with that “f*#@#$% gorrilla”, he was gonna get smashed, so maybe Rogan and Dana thought Lesnar’s striking was more than limited.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mir landed one short elbow and two knees and missed just as many strikes.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying Lesnar was close to being finished...
but Mir’s comments aren’t as outrageous and unfounded as some people are acting like.
by zeke21 on Jul 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
what did everyone say about Brock when he said he gave Mir that knee bar? He was making an excuse for losing, just like Mir is now.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But do you think that if Lesnar had not scored a takedown after that flying knee, Mir could have finished it on the feet?
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess anything is possible, I’m not trying to dispute what could have happened, all I’m saying is that everyone is hating on Lesnar for being a douche, then Mir dropped that little nugget, and it makes him sound like he’s making excuses for the loss.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and for the record
I wouldn’t consider that a take down, If Mir hadn’t left his feet he probably would have still been standing and may have actually one the fight at that point, but he fell more then was taken down.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it’s basically what Lesnar did when he talked about the kneebar in the first when he made excuses. I understand it. Although it kills me because I wanna know what could have happened had the fight stayed on the feet after that flying knee.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly what I'm saying
all the band wagon Lesnar haters are trying to play up Mirs comments like the spoken word or something, but where all over Lesnar when he did the exact same thing in the first fight.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is where the half an inch comment came in, he thought if his arms were a bit longer he would have hit with those strikes.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my problem is not the comment @ all
i think the main gripe of most ppl here is
“he ran like a lightweight”
“i should’ve prepared for him being intimidated of me”
that’s like a pitcher giving up a walk and instead of blaming his poor pitch control,he blames the batter for being intimidated of his pitches and not swinging
an experieneced mma fighter likmir sounds foolish b/c we know that certain fighters implement certain gameplans and to call brock a bitch for taking him down and doing what best suits his strengths instead of striking with him,makes hims just sound delusional and like a sore loser
it’s like blaming demaian maia for not striking,it’s not what he does.so dont cry if u play in2 his game and let him submit u on the ground.
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats their to understand
Yes Mir hit him flush, but he didn’t capitalize on anything. Mir saying the whole half inch thing is him making an excuse for getting beaten and trying to take away from Brocks win.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, he did the one thing he shouldn’t have with that flying knee, give up position, even if Lesnar had been rocked harder then he was, he still landed on his back and Lesnar fell into half guard. A bad position for anyone fight Lesnar.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Mir, and wanted him to win. I would love to see Mir vs Herring or Mir vs Gonzaga.
by Nick Travaglini on Jul 13, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW,
Just a random thought, would a Couture/Carwin main event with Cain/Mir as the co-main event be a big enough draw to make a huge bank PPV-wise? I was hoping Brent or Nate could give me an idea if those would be good enough headliners to sell or not.
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by FutureChamp on Jul 13, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No more Flying Mir knees
I guess you can make the arguement that Alves was a inch or half inch away from KO-ing GSP with this logic.
Mir gave up the takedown with his flying knee attempt
by ultmma on Jul 13, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Why Frank why?
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by Day Man on Jul 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No matter how hard Brock hits Frank
he cant damage that ego
by ryanwk628 on Jul 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Very nice.
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by Mike Fagan on Jul 13, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and no matter how many fans
Hop on the Lesnar bandwagon he’s still 1-1 vs. Frank Mir… MMA fans (mainly UFC) are chomping at the bit for another “unbeatable” fighter ( Machida Era, Fedor is a “cyborg/superhero/god”, etc, etc)…. and Brock is filling the void of superstars such as Chuck, and Tito… It’s a shame fans feel entitled to be such pricks, and fighters like Mir (and Brock for that matter) get crucified for saying anything….. Keyboard warriors everywhere seem to know everything about fighting, and game-planning, and training… It seems as if the need to be correct, and the disdain they have for some fighters turns them into assholes…
Frank isn’t a bad guy, or a bad fighter… He was on the biggest stage of his career thus far and came up short against a Monster of a fighter whom he had been victorious against, previously… If he wants to look at the positives about this fight, then he has every right to…
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be worried about Mir if he didn't come out with this sort of attitude, actually.
There’s a limit to the effectiveness of confidence/arrogance, to be sure, but it’s such an integral part of Frank Mir’s persona. I’d be worried that he would go all Ricco on us if he was subdued.
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by capital L on Jul 13, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think because Mir says things so blatantly instead of beating around the bush...
like most fighters is the reason he gets hated on… I think he’s just pretty blunt, and although he’s an obviously confident person, I think its because for the first time since his skid, and injury he actually feels like he can perform not only well, but possibly to, or past, his potential. He may embellish, but who doesn’t in the fight game?
I’m not sayin any one of these fighters is a saint, but it just seems as if certain fighters are subject to unnecessary hate (Mir, Serra, etc)… I respect all of these guys, and admire them for their talents… Maybe I see more in these guys than what they’re capable of, but I’d rather be a “disillusioned” fan of the fighters, as opposed to an asshole who watches fights to see guys get hurt, and subsequently make fun of them for it…. As a fan I love to see things like Serra upsetting GSP or Mir beating Nog… not because GSP or Nog are bad guys, cuz I’m fans of theirs as well, but because so many people gave the other two guys no chance, and disrespected them as fighters… and they went out there and performed, and proved people wrong… I wish Mir could’ve won this time, but I’m glad to see that Brock is improving at a remarkable rate, and can’t wait to see the UFC’s new HW division continue to prosper…
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and Mir’s face just comes across as cocky, I don’t think he can actually look humble even if he is.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may be 1-1 against Mir, so what? GSP is 1-1 against Matt Serra, who would you take in the third fight? Brock is the undisputed UFC HW champ while Mir is just another guy trying to work his way up for a tiitle shot.
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by ufc4 on Jul 13, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For everyone saying that in order to like Brock you must hate Mir, that’s bogus. I used to love Frank Mir and was even a fan of his up until the day after he defeated Big Nog. This Frank Mir is pompous, egotistical and delusional. The suggestion that you can’t question his comments because Brock was brash and loud mouthed in victory is ridiculous. These comments by Mir only further prove that he is entirely deluded by his token victory over Nog and I’m afraid he’s entered the bizarro MMA alternate universe with the likes of Tito Ortiz. And, as we all know, there’s no coming back from that. It was nice knowing you, Frank..
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by Blackout612 on Jul 13, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I don’t remember the showboating for some reason?
I’ve always liked Mir and I still do. I like his character, he honestly assesses himself and his opponents even though it might not be correct. I think it’s bravado, but I don’t think it’s false bravado.
As for delusional, we’re all delusional dude. None of us really know perfectly what’s going on, we’re just seeing one angle at a time and can only speculate. Your opinion that Mir is delusional is as subjective as Mir’s view that Brock was hurt and scared. Not only that, but we’re all egotistical as well, and what seems egotistical to one is simply blunt honest confidence to another. The token victory over Nog to you is a vastly improved stand-up and result of renewed focus to a Mir fan. So yeah, I sort of like the guy.
Plus, since when is running like a lightweight a bad thing? I’ve seen lightweights run and it’s friggin awesome!!!:)
by Dooda on Jul 14, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubber Match?
Mir got dominated twice. Once by a rookie who he capitalized on a mistake and pulled an amazing comeback (of course… having to pull an amazing comeback against a rookie is f’n pathetc) and then he got completely and utterly destroyed. There will be no rubber match.
by Paradoxx on Jul 13, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my point.
Mir was great when he caught Lesnar with the kneebar in their first fight. But if he is unable to catch him in a sub, all that we will see is more the same beatdowns that we have seen in the first two.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just like when Rampage
lost that third fight against Wanderlei.
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage didn’t beat Wandy, time and everyone else beat Wandy.
by Paradoxx on Jul 13, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop.
Its not as if Brock won both of his fights… No matter how u try to put it, he lost the first… and could potentially lose the third… I don’t know why Brock is the only HW people think can improve… or why he is supposed to be invincible now… I think its awesome that this dude is so big and strong, cuz it poses the question of HOW to stop him… not if he can be stopped… Let’s act like he’s unbeatable when he proves it over the course of time, not when he avenges his first loss…
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
collaborate and listen
and its not like Mir was impressive in the first fight.
People love trilogies when the first 2 fights were different and both came away with a good win. That’s not the case.
Lesnar-Mir II was interesting because while everyone figured Lesnar would overpower and brutalize Mir, Mir had pulled a sub out of his ass and might cold do it again. Maybe if Mir looked even a little impressive, a trilogy might work.
Just like no one is particularly calling for Machida-Evans II.
by Paradoxx on Jul 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not stupid...
But as a fan, and a person who’s introduced my friends to the sport in the last few years…. I think you’re analysis is a bit off… That first fight with Mir was a great win… not dominating, but filled with drama…. Mir showed what MMA is all about in the first fight, and left an impression in a lot of regular people’s minds…. He then went on to beat Nog who was billed as a much better, legendary version of what Mir was… A BJJ specialist with a great beard, and good boxing… he beat him after a season on TUF… in dominating fashion… he then lost in dominating fashion… but if Mir gets a few solid wins under his belt, it is very easy to hype another match….
Brock gets much to much credit for a minute of ground and pound…. he was embarassed in that first fight and for good reason… it didn’t stop him from gettin better, and getting a win in the rematch… Why would it stop Mir…? You’re looking at the situation is if it’s impossible… I’m saying there is a very good chance it happens…
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brock wasn’t embarrassed in the first fight?
b/c it was his FIRST FIGHT
he was beating down a top fighter and his lack of experience failed him against a veteran submission expert
he decided to be more cautious in the 2nd fight so he wouldn’t get caught by a submission again and won
and i’m starting to hink that nog’s staph infection might’ve played a bigger role in his loss than i previous thought
for me mir has to get thru kongo and nog b4 he faces lesnar’s gorilla face again
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chill out...
Brock himself said he was embarrassed (not verbatim) of the loss… I’m just saying that although he lost in a bad way it didn’t stop him from rebounding, and in turn winning this fight. I’m saying the same is possible for Mir…
I also never said he deserved an immediate rematch.
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okk i’m mellowing out lol.
i’m just saying his performance wasn’t embarrassing from the standpoint of him being relatively green in mma.
if he was embarrassed i guess that’s what drives the top athletes in any sport,the ability 2 be supercritical of yourself lol
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mir wins a few fights (hell. in today’s UFC, 1 good fight is really enough), sure. If he earns a rematch, it’ll be a great fight. But a rubber match implies he did enough in the first 2 fights to make an immediate rematch plausible, and that’s just not the case.
by Paradoxx on Jul 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think he deserved an immediate rematch...
i just think Mir can come back from this, and avenge the loss…
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here, he definately has age on his side.
and he probably will get the opportunity b/c with nog and randy retiring soon and carwin or cain getting their shot soon.
unless fedor arrives i can see mir and lesnar by the end of next yr
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its possible… but my original point was about the line
“Frank Mir, already planning to train for a “rubber match” rematch against Brock Lesnar. "
by Paradoxx on Jul 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that comment was sponsored by Haterade.
the delusion,the confusion, and will of a beaten fighter
ppl think brock can improve b/c he was a national wrestling champions who weighs 280 pounds and has unexplainable quickness for a guy that big.and the fact than in five fights he’s beaten couture,herring, and mir with only 3 yrs of experience.
he stiffled mir who is an amazing submission expert on the ground and brock isn’t going to lose any weight so ppl have less reason 2 worry bout him losing b/c of his skills n worry bout improving his skills
his athleticism is why people think he’s not impossible but pretty damn difficult 2 beat.
evrybody can and will be stopped but sometimes father time(unless your couture) ends up playing the key role in it as well as the opposong
tthe only questions left are his chin(which carwin can test)
and facing the next level(fedor
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not hating at all...
I think Brock is amazing… I don’t think anyone has done what he’s done in their first few fights… it’s unheard of… All I’m saying is I’ve noticed a difference in Mir in terms of talent, and athleticism ever since the first fight with Brock… I don’t think theres anything impossible about Mir getting a rematch and winning… I think he’s a huge underdog, but he was the first time also… more because of his performances prior to Hardonk, and Brock’s size, and wrestling background…. He was an underdog this time because of Brock’s physical gifts, as well as his improved game, wins over Heath and Randy, and his gnp from the beginning of the first fight… He crushed Mir this time…. doesn’t mean he doesn’t make a mistake in the third fight though… we don’t know til (if) it happens.
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s true anything can happen. and there’s a good chance that he could submit or knockout lesnar in a rematch.
i’m not picking on u in particular but i just get annoyed w/ a lot of ppl’s hate of brock b/c of his wwe background and oly focusing in on his dickishness and not the same cockiness of other fighters. so i just bcome lazy n stop differentiating an individual’s opinion :/
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude...
I was rooting for Mir…. I went Nutz when he threw the knee… but when Brock pounded him out and went crazy in the camera, I lol’d… I got noproblem with him, outside of him screaming at Mir when Mir stood up… The Budlight thing was dumb, but I could care less what these guys say for the most part.
by Loot on Jul 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha when he threw the double flying knee i was like wtf where did that come frome?how much does he weigh?
the better mir and brock gets the better for our sport,i would love brock-mir-carwin-and cain 2 toss the belt round 4 a few more yrs 2 come
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Struve!
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by subo on Jul 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rampage was 0-2 against Wand
& was at least in the fight. Other that kneebar, Mir was never in either one of these fights.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 14, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No rematch unless...
no other clear contender’s step up after (if) Brock beats Carwin/Cain winner or CC/Dos winner. Mir would had to have a few comeback wins as well. If Mir could beat Randy (if he beats Nog) which i dont see happening, then another contender… he might get a gift from the UFC and see his rematch.
Keep in mind between the UFC 100 hype and the Ultimate Fighter exposure, mir has had his mug on TV a ton. Dana might want to keep building on that since people already know who Mir is. Im praying the dont let him rip off the arm of the TUF 10 winner and then get Brock again.
by MMArazorback on Jul 13, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Im praying the dont let him rip off the arm of the TUF 10 winner and then get Brock again.”
Wow I think you just saw the future, after all by the time Tuf crowns a winner, they’ll have had almost as many fights as Brock under their belts. But I agree that would just be ripoff to any fans willing to pay because they saw some guy on TUF. Mir is going to have to beat, or in all reason should beat some of the other guys that are contenders, Carwin, Cain, Big Nog again, some of the vets, not some new kid from the show, that would just be a disgrace.
by proflex on Jul 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah i would rather see carwin followed by either a couture rematch or nog getting a shot, and then i would like 2 see a better all around fighter in fedor
by justizzer on Jul 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love Mir’s confidence, i’m sure he was just as surprised by Brock’s gameplan as I was I never saw that coming I thought that Lesnar’s best shot to win was sprawl and strike. The fact that he looked for the take down and finished with GNP was shocking to me but all props go to Lesnar for taking his training seriously and improving with every fight.
Mir regardless of the haters is 1 or 2 wins away from a rematch, he’s the only man to ever beat Lesnar and i’m sure he’ll be thinking long and hard about different strategies to take down the goliath. I’d like to see him get someone like Kongo, so that he can get a dominant win under his belt and continue his great run since fully recovering from his accident. I’ll always be a Frank Mir fan regardless of if he wins or loses, he has gone to hell and back and I look forward to seeing him piss of more fanboys in the future.
by Raker on Jul 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Surprised by his gameplan, are you serious?
He was beating the living shit out of Mir the first time doing that exact same thing, which is the strength of his game. Why would he change his approach? The only thing that he needed to work on was control & sub defense. I think that it says a lot about how Lesnar thinks of himself that he did not come out & try to only strike just because he KO’d Couture.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was beating the living shit out of Mir the first time
And then got submitted, hence why I thought he’d use his reach and power to keep it standing and limit the chance of getting caught again. Honestly anyone that wasn’t surprised by Brock chosing to take it to the ground and his vast improvement in top control is in the minority or lying.
by Raker on Jul 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Or both – the lying minority.
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by subo on Jul 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
I’m a lying minority?
The Heath Herring fight was Brock’s crucible, if you will. The whole point was for him to pace himself, mix up his striking and GnP, and work on top control. Once he went a whole 15 minutes without going crazy, I knew that would be his preferred style. A guy like Carwin probably looks to stay on his feet with his wrestling and knock people’s heads off, but Brock is content to smother and grind opponents into the mat.
I absolutely thought he would look to take the fight to the ground. I just thought he would get a few more good shots off on the feet before he made that transition, but hey, whatever works.
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by misterjonez on Jul 14, 2009 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar is not a boxer dude.
He is huge wrestler with huge reach & power. His safest bet would always be to take the guy down, control him & beat him into submission. I do not know about you, but I at no time ever expected Lesnar to stand & trade with Mir for one round, much less 5. And if Mir thought that he would, which is fucking ridiculous, then he should fire all of his coaches. And anyone surprised that a career wrestler would take an MMA fight to the ground is an idiot. He did what he was supposed to do, that is work on top control & sub defense. That was the only thing that stopped him from winning the first time, so it seems to me that was a very good recipe for winning.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Jul 14, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility to keep the fight standing. When Mir was standing and feeding Brock he looked impressive and Brock seemed a little lost. If he can figure out how to fight him and keep it standing, the fight could be different. One thing that surprised me was how similar they were in size compared to Randy vs Brock. I think that if Mir could get 10 more pounds, practice keeping it standing, it could be completely different. I’d love a re-match.
by Dooda on Jul 14, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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