UFC 100 Quote of the Day: Dana White Promises Fans Brock Lesnar vs Fedor Emelianenko "Eventually"
by Kid Nate on Jul 12, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
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"This whole Fedor thing has been going on and on and on. I keep saying this and that about him and he keeps waiting. Eventually, Fedor's going to be here. I want Fedor. I want him to come to the UFC and everything else.
"This guy just became the heavyweight champion. We'll end up getting that deal done. And then we'll do Brock vs. Fedor, and it'll be a huge fight."
Dana White at the post UFC press conference as reported at AOL Fanhouse.
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I read this and then I
Jizzed In My Pants
by TheConcreteKid on Jul 12, 2009 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
If Brock wins th internet would explode.
Keep firing Assholes!
Thanks to Bisping's lack of senses, walla walla walla I'm an idiot.
Subos head
would explode from smiling. But so would mine.
what would the post fight interview be like
after beating fedor emelianenko?
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
"If you can change... and I can change... everybody can change!"
“Now I’m gonna go home and lay on my wife!”
by capital L on Jul 12, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I want Brock to lose, but no way. I have to take Lesnar in this fight. Fedor has never dealt with a guy that big and athletic.
they really ought to be in two different weight classes
the need for a 230lb class has never been clearer to me.
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You make Tim Sylvia a sadder panda.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 12, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it makes sense in the long term, but it would be kinda fruitless to splinter the UFC’s HW division just as it was getting interesting.
all the real fast risers are over 230
except for Velasquez.
Let Fedor, Big Nog, Randy, Chuck Liddell and Cain have their own division. And Cro Cop and dos Santos too.
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not for another few years...
The sport’s still too young, and there wouldn’t be enough quality fighters to fill those two weight classes. The reason it’s been OK so far is because usually the huge guys who have come in are slow, weighed down by the extra size… it’s only now we’re really seeing what that extra size and strength can mean in the hands of a formidable athlete.
Again, not going to happen until there are enough good fighters to fill the divisions.
yeah Zulu was at least 30lbs less than Lesnar
and Hong Man Choi was like 5’ 9" 240 lb TOPS
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
And they’re both super athletic, so you have a point. The important part is that he’s big AND athletic.
Hong Man Choi
is a world class kickboxer. Athleticism? Check. But its a different kind of size/athleticism used in a different way.
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Hong Man is not the caliber of athlete Lesnar is
if he wasn’t so tall he wouldn’t be a world-class anything. Lesnar has the reflexes to be great at any size.
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Sorry i have to disagree
but you dont beat guys like Semmy Schilt just by being tall.
Yes lesnar is a superior athlete but his athleticism is used differently anyways.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
Lesnar
has never dealt with a guy as good as Fedor
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
I would say that
Fedor is significantly better than either Couture or Mir. But not in a totally different league, especially as it pertains to how they stack up against Lesnar.
Fedor could potentially clock Brock and put him out with a well-timed punch, but I don’t see any other reasonable route to victory for the Russian in this matchup.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
My thoughts exactly. Btw, nice to see you back.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jul 12, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I can handle the Lesnar era if..........
He doesn’t ever say anything.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I can handle it only
if we have Machida as champ to balance the Ch’i of the universe.
by Riney on Jul 12, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heres the thing about Fedor
Fedor is bigger and stronger than Mir, and hits a lot harder as well. His takedown defense is better so Fedor will have more control over where the fight goes, although I do think Lesnar would be able to take him down. But even then, Fedor’s submission game is much more taylor-made for making heavyweights like Lesnar it’s victims. Mir’s slapped on some nice armbars over the years and the kneebar against Lesnar the first time made last night’s fight possible, but then look and see: he’s got a kimura, a triangle, etc etc, and the fact of the matter is it is exceptionally difficult for a guy like Mir to catch a Brock Lesnar in a triangle/kimura, etc. Fedors proficiency in the larger joint locks like armbars and kneebars give him an edge over Mir on the ground against an opponent like Lesnar IMO.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
well Fedor is stronger
im not sure if he’s bigger
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
Fedor is shorter and lighter than Mir
don’t know about the strength, but unless you’re talking about some 5th dimensional space I can’t perceive you are factually incorrect.
Mir is 6’3" (probably actually 6’2") and 245-250.
Fedor is 6’1" and 230 and could probably cut weight to make 205lbs.
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yeah i ammended it
what I mean as far as strength is just functional strength i guess. Its almost liek when you have two guys go to the gym that are teh same strength. Hitting the same weights may be easier for one guy than the other because his technique is just better or what have you. I think Fedor, in his throws and takedowns and punches is better at making the most out of his body, and plus I think his weight is deceptive as I absolutely think Fedor hits harder than Mir and makes his weight count more on the mat.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
Round here we call it, “Old Man Strength”. MY crew and I regularly have to restrain adults who are psychotic here at the hospital I work in. The skinny old man is always more trouble than the buffed 20 something year old.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I’d fight Abraham Lincoln. Skinny guys fight ‘till they’re burger.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jul 12, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If and when these two fight, I’d expect either one to utter the phrase"if he dies, he dies" at least once. This would kinda be the opposite of rocky 4, where the us has the asshole ultra powerful/huge fighter and the soviets have the noble, skilled, fight with heart fighter
by kanodogg on Jul 12, 2009 12:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
You have to give Fedor though that he hits like a ton of bricks. He finished Sylvia and Arlovski within moments. Neither of them are particularly small guys. I think he’d be the first opponent Lesnar faced who is as if not more likely to knock him out than vice versa.
I would probably concede that Fedor has a better chance of KO’ing Brock than the reverse, but I wouldn’t say that Fedor has more power than Brock. Just a better overall striking game with similar (apparent) tools.
Fedor really should fight LHW. He could clear everything out at that weight, which would be far more impressive than fighting the half-dozen talented fighters at HW that live outside the UFC.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Yes,
that would be a very interesting fight. Probably more interesting than Brock/Fedor, and definitely more fun to dissect and hype pre-fight.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
If Machida is who everyone (including me) thinks he is, that would be the ultimate fight for the hardcore fan. And who knows, maybe one day soon it would be a huge match for the casual fan as well.
by An Old Friend on Jul 12, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
How’s the weather on Machida’s nuts? :-D
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 12, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor does not hit like a ton of bricks. Other than KO’ing glass jaw Arlovski, Fedor is not known for his KO power. He will have to submit Brock and that is a tall order.
Look up the names of who he TKO’ed. How many of them are not cans? The only one other than Arlovski was Heath Herring who lost by cut.
Still, listen to Silvia after the post fight conference from Affliction 1. He said that Fedor hits harder than anyone he’s ever fought before. Silvia might be a bit of a joke at this point, but he’s fought a lot of guys, thats a big call to make.
Ask him now that Ray Mercer cranked his ass. I bet he’ll have a different answer.
How's the weather up your own ass? - Stephen Colbert
by Derek Suboticki on Jul 13, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
My Prediction...
Fedor finally joins the UFC early next year….and loses to Brock.
This forces the UFC to adopt at 230 pound cruiser weight division which Fedor dominates till retirement.
^this
Fedor’s not had the same level of competition that most of the heavyweight division has has to offer.
Granted Arlovski lost to Fedor, but I can’t see Fedor or his …
You know what, I’m just not a Fedor fan, ’nuff said.
dude. seriously?
cro cop
noguiera
matt lindland
tim sylvia
arlovski
coleman
randleman
herring
babalu
arona
not same level of competition as Frank Mir, 40+ yr old Couture and hering? come on dude
he was injured. injured bad.
Mir would likely beat everyone on that list. In fact, he’s beaten two of the best ones (Sylvia and Noguiera).
The only person on that list who I think would give Couture trouble is Nog, and we get to see the outcome of that fight.
I’m not taking anything away from Fedor, he is ranked number one for a reason, but at this point the list of fighters that he has defeated is beginning to lose it’s luster to me. The people on the top (Sylvia, Noguiera, Arlovski) are on a downspin, and the people on the bottom are becoming irrelevant.
Not trying to be offensive here, but
Did you just get in to MMA? Do you really think Tim Sylvia is that much better than Cro Cop or Arona? Arlovski is a stud but has he beaten anyone other than Tim, Cabbage, or Paul Buentello? Youre really going to just dismiss Kevin Randleman circa 2004, or Matt Lindland?
Sorry dude but you just love UFC blindly is how it seems.
he was injured. injured bad.
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