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Overvaluing the Rift Between the UFC and Fedor Emelianenko

Fedorbeatsarlovski_mediumWhile it's noteworthy that a publication as well known as Time is giving the UFC and the larger sport of MMA some play, it's regrettable that they would introduce the general public to the contentious UFC/Fedor situation by overstating the Russian fighter's value within the confines of North America.  To wit:

Imagine a pro quarterback with Peyton Manning's talent playing up in the Canadian Football League instead of the NFL. Or picture Tiger Woods shunning the PGA and all the major championships to star in the second-string Nationwide Tour. It may sound ridiculous, but the fast-growing, wildly popular sport of mixed martial arts (MMA) is grappling with such an unthinkable, uncomfortable scenario.

That's how the article starts out, and this is how it ends:

So despite growing pressure from ultimate-fighting fans who want White to sign Fedor, it doesn't look like the pair will be doing celebratory vodka shots anytime soon. "Fedor doesn't make or break my business one way or the other, you know what I mean?" says White. "The reality is, I don't need Fedor." Still, over the long term, the Fedor-White standoff could leave mixed martial arts much like pro boxing, decimated by warring promoters and fighters, with talent spread across too many divisions for followers to keep count. After all, no sport can keep rolling in the dough if fans keep feeling shortchanged.

There is some good information in between these two excerpts, and I'm glad Dana White's perspective was at least given some attention.  Although, in my mind, the conclusions which the article draws are over-the-top.  The USAT/SBN Consensus Rankings accurately ranks Fedor (in my mind, anyway) as the top heavyweight fighter in the world.  Though some may contend that Fedor hasn't regularly fought the top contenders since the dismantling of Pride, his body of work over the years is impeccable.  He probably deserves the to be slotted at #1 until he's defeated or he completely falls off the MMA map.  However, skill and accomplishments don't necessarily equal name value, and that's really what we're talking about here.  The undeniable difference between Fedor and Tiger Woods or Fedor and Peyton Manning is that Fedor's name doesn't register with many of the fans who consume UFC-branded products.  The other two well-known athletes were held in high standing among U.S. sports fans even before either made their professional debuts.  While the UFC has done much to bolster their brand outside of North America and continues to build a global product, most of their business is still done within the boundaries of the aforementioned continent in front of U.S. and Canadian fans.

With all this mind, it seems a stretch to hypothesize that a UFC without Fedor leads to the promotional fragmentation that's synonymous with boxing.  Even if Peyton Manning were to leave the NFL for the CFL, there's little doubt that the NFL could absorb the hit quite well.  It would take a lot of defections, leading to the erosion of overall starpower and talent, to really hurt the NFL or the UFC.  I'm certainly not equating the UFC to the NFL in terms of total dollar value or overall popularity, but both are in similarly dominant positions vis a vis their respective sports.  In fact, the UFC has done more to mobilize top talent under one promotional roof than any other MMA promotion in the world.  The attention UFC events garner in comparison to what we've seen and will see in regard to media attention directed at Fedor and Affliction somewhat debunks the contention that signing Fedor is a must for the UFC and/or the sport of MMA.

If the most talented football player made his mark in Japan with most North American fans unaware of his supposed greatness, would the NFL ever feel a significant impact due to not signing the player in question?

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“If the most talented football player made his mark in Japan with most North American fans unaware of his supposed greatness, would the NFL ever feel a significant impact due to not signing the player in question?”

Yes, provided that mainstream publications gradually exposed the situation for what it is. Perhaps even this story would make Time Magazine?

Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...

by plastict on Jul 10, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Being better than Time isn’t exactly the greatest praise, but you’re definitely better than Time, CJ.

by Derek Suboticki on Jul 10, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

@Riney this was

Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...

by plastict on Jul 10, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

His point was that Fedor isn’t the best fighter in the world. It was on-topic.

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by Richard Wade on Jul 10, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

My response is that Miguel Torres is not the best fighter in the world.

Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...

by plastict on Jul 11, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your response was that he was off-topic. I was correcting you. Carry on.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jul 12, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, that one was posted almost an hour earlier.

by a tommy point on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the deal.

I did this one just before I noticed yours. It was posted while I was working on mine, and in the process doing it I didn’t see yours. I apologize if I stepped on it.

However, since the two are very different, I wasn’t going to forsake my thoughts on the article and delete this post. If I had seen the first post I probably wouldn’t have done mine and instead posted my thoughts elsewhere. Call me selfish or whatever, but that’s how it happened.

by Cannon Jacques on Jul 10, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify: I don’t care if there are two. I thought that guy was asking for the other one to be deleted. Didn’t realize he made the post.

by a tommy point on Jul 10, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the article...

It’s well written and it’s a different take on mine (which was more just an overview of the article) I just wish all the conversations were in one place. Keep up the good work.

by HonorableJudgeIto on Jul 10, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

if luke, brent, mike, nate, etc.. made a post about the time article would you ask them to delete it imply that they should delete it?

by Anton Tabuena on Jul 10, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much money the t-shirt guy spent on that article, because it reads like an Affliction sponsored piece. Fedor is irrelevant to the UFC he’s one loss away from losing every bit of hype and buzz he has and considering how his counterparts in the HW from Pride have done to proclaim him the best anything is ridiculous.

by Raker on Jul 10, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s just the media looking for a saucy angle no matter how weak it is to those in the know – imo.

"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy

by Benicio on Jul 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

You are already a member of this community!

Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...

by plastict on Jul 11, 2009 4:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I also realize that my response to an article about overvaluing the rift between the UFC and Fedor was essentially a call to stop overvaluing the rift between the UFC and Fedor.

Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...

by plastict on Jul 11, 2009 5:31 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ve already seen similar situations in other pro sports.

Sadahara Oh has the most home runs in the history of professional baseball and never played one inning in the major leagues. People may scoff at the Japanese leagues, but the recent performance of Japanese players in MLB and their dominance in the World Baseball Classic has made it very clear that the Japanese game is VERY competitive with the western product.

Arvydas Sabonis was the greatest amateur basketball player of the modern era, but didn’t get to play in the NBA until after he was 30 and his knees were shot. Yet even a washed up Sabonis still managed to be one of the best big men in the NBA in the mid to late 1990s.

Fedor’s situation is unusual, but it is not unique.

by Steve4192 on Jul 12, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping someone was going to go for a Sadaharu Oh reference! You could also try to hold it against NASCAR that Helio Castroneves doesn’t drive for them. There are much better examples than Manning and Tiger Woods.

It’s interesting that someone like Oh never came to the US, but current stars like Ichiro and Matsuzaka have due to the rise in salaries in general in MLB. Negro League players were clearly better than many MLB players during the pre-Robinson days. Most early american football stars in college chose not to play in the NFL because college ball was considered the pinnacle of the sport. Vast sums of revenue are the only real solution to the problem of spread-out talent. It becomes even more difficult when your main competition for talent is willing to run at huge deficits in order to overpay their fighters. Luckily for the UFC, they cannot keep it up for long.

by Stanlee on Jul 13, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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