On The Day Before UFC 100, Let Us NOT Forget...
On the day before UFC 100 takes place, let us remember and celebrate how we got here. Without the Gracies, the UFC, or PRIDE, the global expansion of Mixed Martial Arts would have never reached the mass appeal, geographical territories, and success that MMA has today.
It's time for a history lesson everyone. Lets start by talking about a word most MMA fans should know, and that is Pankration.
In 648 B.C.E., the Greeks introduced the sport of pankration into the Olympic Games. The word pankration is a combination of two Greek words, pan, meaning "all," and kratos, meaning "powers." This is an accurate depiction of the sport itself, as it was a potent mixture of Hellenic boxing and wrestling. The sport only truly had two rules: no biting and no eye gouging, though even these techniques were allowed by the Spartans. The bouts could end only when one competitor was knocked unconscious, or submitted to his opponent by raising his hand. Often times, these matches would last for hours, and sometimes ended with the death of one, or even both competitors. The sport became the most popular event in the Olympic Games, and across the Hellenic world.
The matches took place in an arena, or "ring" which was a square approximately 12 to 14 feet across, which the Greeks hoped would encourage close-quarter combat. The matches also featured a referee armed with a rod or switch he used to enforce the rules, which were often broken by opponents that were overmatched. Common techniques included punches, joint locks, choke holds, elbow and knee strikes, and kicks. Kicks to the legs, groin and stomach were quite commonly used. Standing strikes such as these were common, though the overwhelming majority of pankration bouts were settled on the ground, where submission holds and strikes were both accepted practices. Pankratiasts were renowned for their grappling skills, and would employ a variety of grappling techniques, such as takedowns, chokes and joint locks, often to great effect. Strangulation was the most common cause of death in pankration matches.
Ancient Greek pankratiasts became heroes, and the subject of numerous myths and legends. These include the legends of Arrichion, Dioxxipus, Polydamos and even Hercules was believed to be a pankratiast. Alexander the Great sought out pankratiasts as soldiers because of their legendary skills at unarmed combat. When he invaded India in 326 B.C.E., he had a great number of pankratiasts serving with him. This is believed to be the beginning of Asian martial arts, as most Asian martial arts trace their history to India at around this time. Pankration is the first recorded form of what would later come to be known as mixed martial arts, and is the closest any society has come to allowing a truly no-holds-barred unarmed combat sport.
Here are some images for all of those who believe that GnP was created by Hammer House or the kick to the liver was mastered by Bas.
More after the jump.
The Rebirth Of MMA In Brazil
We now go the second rebirth of what we know as Mixed Martial Arts today, and that is Brazil
Following the decline of pankration in Greece, which coincided with the rise of the Roman Empire, mixed martial arts fell by the wayside in favor of other combat sports. Sports such as wrestling and boxing became the dominant forms of combat sport in the West, while traditional martial arts swelled in popularity in Asia. This remained the case for centuries until 1925 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, when the sport of mixed martial arts experienced a revival from a peculiar source.
In order to fully understand the reemergence of mixed martial arts, it is necessary to take a brief look at the history of the Gracie family of Brazil. In 1801, George Gracie immigrated to Brazil from Scotland, and settled in the Para province of northeastern Brazil. His family grew and flourished, and in the early 1900s, a Japanese man named Mitsuyo Maeda immigrated to the same area. The Japanese government had plans to establish a colony in the area, and Maeda was a representative of the Japanese government. He quickly became close friends with Gastão Gracie, a political figure in the area, and grandson of George Gracie. Gastão used his power and influence to assist Maeda and his agenda of establishing a Japanese colony.
In addition to Maeda’s political prowess and skills, he was also famous in Japan for another reason: Maeda had been a renowned champion of the Japanese martial art of judo. Maeda, or Count Koma, as he was known in Japan, offered to teach Gastão’s son the art of Judo. Maeda trained Gustão’s son, Carlos, in judo from the time Carlos was 15 until he was 21, when Maeda returned to Japan. With Maeda gone, Carlos began to teach his brothers, Helio, Jorge, Osvaldo and Gastão, Jr. the art as Maeda taught it to him. The Gracie brothers were not bound by the tradition that Japanese practitioners of the art so rigidly upheld, rather the brothers began to adapt the art to suit themselves, and to make it more practical. It was in 1925 that Carlos took his brother Helio, who was 11 years younger than Carlos, to Rio de Janeiro, where they opened a jiu-jitsu academy.
After perfecting their craft, the Gracies started to create a plan to take over the world by challenging the world. Funny how this was probably the first ever modern marketing scheme to take over different regions and countries and secure future generations of Gracies with well paying jobs and respect world wide. This marketing scheme eventually led to what we call today the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championships).
As Carlos and brother Helio continued to advance and perfect their art in their new academy, Carlos concocted a brilliant marketing scheme to draw attention to the fledgling academy. He issued what is now famously known as the "Gracie Challenge." As he explained, "I had to do something to shock the people." He began the "Gracie Challenge" by taking out an advertisement in several Rio newspapers. The advertisement, which included a picture of the slight Carlos Gracie, information on the academy, and stated "If you want a broken arm, or rib, contact Carlos Gracie at this number." This effectively began the revival of professional mixed martial arts in the Western world, as Carlos, and later his younger brother Helio, followed by the sons of both men, would take on all comers in vale-tudo matches. These matches closely resembled the pankration matches of Ancient Greece, and were participated in by representatives of area karate schools, professional boxers, capoeira champions, and various others that sought to prove that they were better than the Gracies.
As word of these matches spread through Rio de Janeiro, the public craved these matches. As a result, these matches began to be held in Brazil’s large soccer stadiums, and attracted record crowds. The first of these professional fights was between Brazilian Lightweight Boxing Champion, Antonio Portugal and Carlos’ younger, smaller, and much frailer brother Helio. Helio won the match in less than 30 seconds, effectively elevating himself to the status of Brazilian hero. At the time, Brazil had no international sports heroes, and Helio filled that void for the Brazilians.
As word of these matches spread to Japan, the great martial arts champions of Japan sought to participate in this new form of competition against the Gracies, who the Japanese thought were defiling their traditional arts. Japanese champions flocked to Rio de Janeiro to do battle with Helio Gracie, who was always out weighed by his opponents, often by more than 100 pounds. He defeated many great Japanese fighters, and in a trip to the United States, Helio defeated the World Freestyle Wrestling Champion, American super heavyweight Fred Ebert. One-hundred-thirty-five pound Helio continued to defend the Gracie name and their martial art, often against opponents weighing as much as 300 pounds, from 1935 until 1951, fighting over 1000 fights, until Carlos’ son, Carlson, and later Helio’s sons Rolls, Rickson and Rorion took over the roll of family champion in upholding the "Gracie Challenge."
First, the Gracies started to take over Brazil, and they did so by challenging all the best fighters contryside. Helio (left) here defeats a capoeira stylist.
Then, when the word got out to the rest of the world, Japan responded and sent their best Martial Artist to battle Helio and the Gracie family. Helio started to defeat all challengers. Here is a fight against Kato, one of Japans top Judokas by using the guard.
Eventually, a local Brazilian group decided to bring in the best Japanese fighter in the world to face Helio, and that was one of the best Judokas to EVER exist, Masahiko Kimura.
The first ever MMA blockbuster fight was set, and Helio Gracie would take on Masahiko Kimura in Brazil. In the picture below whe have Helio, Kimura and Carlos. Below is a picture of their fight.
In 1952, at the gym next to the largest soccer stadium in Rio, the fight began. The rules were based on using judo gi's (No strikes). Invincible Helio was 45 years old, 63 kilos. Kimura at 93 kilos. Kimura, with his powerful physique, easily threw Helio. Kimura quickly commenced with the ground game (newaza). Kimura and Helio rolled on the ground as Kimura jockeyed for position and a submission. Helio did his best to defend against the onslaught from one of Judo's greatest fighters. Kimura tried different submissions to force Helio's submission. Helio refused to submit and fought to escape Kimura's punishing attacks. Helio struggled valiantly against his larger opponent as Kimura tried different submissions. For the first 2 minutes, it was a tie, but Helio was constantly on the losing end. After 15 minutes, Helio conceded defeat. The first defeat in Helio's life was handed to him by Kimura. The decisive arm lock technique used by Kimura was named the "Kimura Lock" and even now known to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu players, to praise Kimura's ability. It's been said that after the fight, Kimura invited Helio to visit the Kodokan in Japan. Helio declined. Even to this day, Helio speaks of great admiration of Kimura and appear proud to have faced one of Japan's greatest Judokas, Masahiko Kimura.
MMA Intrigue In Japan Starts To Build Thanks To Inoki
Before the Rickson vs Takada mega fight in Japan took place, Antonio Inoki versus Muhammad Ali did wonders in Japan to create what we know now as Japanese MMA. Here is their match, if you have not yet seen this, take a look. An MMA classic, and still until this vary day people argue whether the fight was worked or not.
The Birth Of Modern MMA, Gracies Send Royce and Rickson To Conquer The World
The Gracies knew that if they conquered America and Japan, they would have proven that Gracie Jiu Jitsu was the best self defense tecnique in the world. They sent Royce Gracie, with his fragile and frail physique, to America to prove that someone who is under sized and over powered can defend themselves. They claimed no other technique or art could do what Gracie BJJ could. They knew that if they could prove this in America, Gracie Jiu Jitsu would be a financial success selling video tapes, seminars, and teach classes. On the other hand, they sent the stronger and imposing fighter in Rickson to take on Japan's best. This was not done for financial reasons, but for honor for the Gracie name. They knew for Gracie Jiu Jitsu to be taken seriously as a martial art, it would take someone like Rickson with his physique, size, and ability to beat the best fighters Japan had to offer. Rickson Gracie took on Japan's most famoust fighter, shoot wrestler, NobuhikoTakada. This was probably one of the biggest fights in Japan since the classic Muhammad Ali vs Antonio Inoki bout. Rickson gained his larger than life status in Brazil as he beat one of the best fighters in Brazil at the time, Rei Zulu, at the age of 20. Rei Zulu was 145-0 when he challenged the Gracie family to determine who the best fighter in Brazil was.
The Gracies Invade the US and Give Birth To The UFC
Rorion Gracie, the true pioneer of MMA in the United States.
In the early 1980s, Helio’s oldest son Rorion, came to the United States to teach Brazilian, or Gracie jiu-jitsu as he preferred to call it, in California. Like his father and uncle before him, he issued the infamous "Gracie Challenge" in his new home, but added a new twist. Rorion offered $100,000 to anyone who could defeat him, or one of his brothers, in a vale-tudo match. These matches again brought Brazilian jiu-jitsu much popularity. As Rorion realized the potential this style of fighting offered to spread his family’s art, he sought to create an organization that would promote this sort of fighting in the United States.
After years of hard work, and promoting his family’s art and his idea for an American vale-tudo league, Rorion Gracie met Art Davie, a salesmen who had first become interested in this style of fighting during a trip he took to Thailand where he witnessed an underground mixed martial arts event. Davie utilized his connections in the television industry to set up a meeting for himself and Rorion Gracie with Bob Meyrowitz, who was president of Semaphore Entertainment Group (SEG), a corporation that specialized in putting on live pay-per-view sporting events. Together, the three men established the "Ultimate Fighting Championship," which held its first event in 1993. The first "Ultimate Fighting Championship" (or UFC as it is more commonly known) event sold 86,000 pay-per-view buys, and by the third event, the buy rate was up to 300,000 pay-per-view buys per show. This secured a place for the sport of mixed martial arts in the United States, but this place was not a reputable one.
Gracies Invade Japan and Give Birth To PRIDE
The Gracies then unleashed their most daring venture to prove to the world that Gracie BJJ was the echelon of martial arts technique, and that is by trying to conquer Japan and taking on one of their most famous pro wrestlers, Nobuhiko Takada. Rickson won the bout by Armbar in the first round, which gave birth to Rickson by Armbar for many years to come by MMA fans.
Pride Fighting Championships was initially conceived in 1997 by Kakutougi Revolution Spirits to match popular Japanese pro-wrestler Nobuhiko Takada with Rickson Gracie, the purported champion of the Gracie family of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioners. The event, held at the Tokyo Dome on October 11, 1997 attracted 47,000 fans, as well as Japanese mass media attention. The success of the first event enabled its promoters to hold a regular series of mixed martial arts events, and a year later in 1998, promote a rematch between Takada and Gracie.[3] With K-1 enjoying popularity in Japan, Pride began to compete with monthly showings on Fuji Television, as well as pay per view on the newly formed satellite television channel SKY PerfecTV.
UFC Banned and Zuffa Steps Into The Spotlight
As the UFC gained popularity, it also gained massive amounts of criticism. Senators and politicians started a campaign to ban the UFC. In 1997, the UFC was dropped by all PPV carriers. The UFC then continued to host events in other countries and released tapes of their events. This was known as the "underground" era of MMA in North America. Zuffa and then stepped in and resurrect the UFC in North America in 2001, when the UFC returned to PPV.
As the UFC gained popularity, it became a pertinent political topic, as Arizona Senator John McCain launched a campaign against the UFC. As a result, in 1997, pay-per-view carriers dropped the Ultimate Fighting Championship events from their line-ups. This was partially SEG’s fault, as they had marketed the UFC as a blood sport, by drawing attention to the negatives that surrounded the event. SEG’s marketing of the event boasted that it was a "no rules," or "no-holds-barred" fighting event, where anything could happen, even death. This was a successful marketing scheme in the beginning, as it drew attention to the sport from curiosity seekers, but it later backfired politically. As the political uproar began, and Sen. McCain became an outspoken champion of the abolition of the sport, states began to outlaw mixed martial arts competition. This forced the UFC to move its events from state to state, until the pay-per-view providers dropped the events from their services. In the words of UFC ring announcer, Bruce Buffer, this caused the UFC to "basically go underground."
The Ultimate Fighting Championship remained a fringe oddity, without pay-per-view coverage, and banned from all but a handful of states for several years, until the franchise was purchased by Zuffa, LLC. Zuffa, a Las Vegas based media and casino management company owned by Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, took over the UFC franchise with the intention of returning it to its former popularity, and eventually gaining the sport mainstream acceptance. The Fertittas and Zuffa president Dana White sought to turn the UFC into a "good, clean sport with actual rules," which would allow the sport to eventually become sanctioned. This would be a huge step for the UFC, as "sanctioning provides a legitimization for the sport," according to Bruce Buffer.
Dana White and the Fertitta’s work came to fruition in 2001, when the UFC returned to pay-per-view, with record buy rates, and record ticket sales at their live events. The new and improved UFC returned with a stricter set of rules, which included rounds, time limits, five weight classes, a list of 31 fouls, and 8 possible ways to win. Also, the UFC fighters were drastically different from those that entered the Octagon in 1993. Current UFC fighters are among the best conditioned athletes in the world. Often, fighters train for more than six hours a day, which is comparable to, and often more than the amount of time boxers and other professional athletes spend in training on a daily basis. Also, fighters work on strength and conditioning, in addition to their striking and grappling skills.
Until this day, it is disputed that the "first smart business move" (also controversial) by Zuffa (since the Fertitta's were part of the NSAC at the time) was to swipe the UFC away from Meyrowitz. The Fertittas saw the value of the UFC, and Fertitta's vote forced the NSAC to ban the UFC (according to Meyrowitz though this was never proven to be true). Once the UFC was banned (not sanctioned), the Fertitta's purchased the UFC from Meyrowitz and started plans to bring back the UFC and make a huge profit off of a $2 million dollar investment.
By the late 1990’s Frank III had expanded Stations and Frank Jr.’s other son, Lorenzo Fertitta, became a member of the board of the Nevada State Athletic Commission. At the time the UFC was owned by Bob Meyrowitz who needed NSCA approval in order to return the UFC to pay-per-view and profitability. Meyrowitz alleges that in 1999 Larenzo was the deciding vote that blocked NSCA approval, dooming the UFC, which forced Meyrowitz to sell the UFC to the Fertittas for $2 million.
Different Philosophies For Different Types Of MMA
So, if you look back in the history of MMA, we can clearly see that the UFC has now evolved into a product that American combat sport enthusiast's can now love, which is a mixture of boxing and pro wretling. The UFC was able to secure deals with Jakks Pacific, THQ, and run a PPV model, perfectly emulatating the steps that Vince McMahon took to accomplish his success decades before the UFC hit town. They take the Boxing approach in terms of making MMA seem like a no-joke, everything is on the line, legitimate cut throat sport. MMA is much more serious in the USA. It is more like boxing in this regard, where a loss really hurts your career and you have to rebuild and go back to the drawing board. Winning takes the most precedence, no matter how it is accomplished. This is supported by the "infamous" cut rule by the UFC, where they can renegotiate your contract after a loss, or drop you from the organization altogether after a string of losses. Although recently, it does appear that the UFC is now becoming more friendly to fighters that provide exciting fights and take a chance to finish their opponents, by offering big fight of the night and finishing bonuses.
The Japanese on the other hand, adapted MMA as to what is popular in combat sports in their culture, which is more of a Pro Wrestling larger than life approach, with a touch of Olympic merit. They value entertainment, what we deem as the "freak" factor, they admire since it is done to prove that a smaller skilled man can defeat the larger more powerful man. Honor is something that must be always in display, whether you won, lost, in the ring or out of the ring. Winning or losing doesn't matter as much in Japan, where as showing your fighting spirit, skill, and honor is what takes precedence in a fight. These are the reasons that fighters like Sakuraba, Minowaman, Sudo, Inoki, and Takada gained so much fame. This is another reason why someone like Akiyama and now Misaki have been chastised and ridiculed for cheating or violating the law.
In terms of similarities, it is interesting to see that the common denominator is Pro Wrestling and seems to be the key for previously modern MMA to explode into the main stream of each country. It was the bravery and showmanship of fighters like Sakuraba, Inoki, and Takada that elevated MMA in Japan to next media stream. Brock Lesnar, former Pro Wrestler and WWE champ, is now doing the same for the UFC, and if the history of Martial Arts holds true, MMA fans will be waiting for a smaller skilled man to once again prove that skills can overcome size and strength disadvantages. If the pattern holds true, it will take another big name pro-wrestler or big name boxing cross-over for MMA in North America to explode into the main stream. As for Japan, it will most likely rely on a daunting and charismatic gold medalist Judoka Olympian, his success, and the evolution of homegrown MMA fighters.
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I will rec this once I manage to finish it, gotta beat the traffic home.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jul 10, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Kid Nate…I mean Supremacy.
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by Beer Monster on Jul 10, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Single best thing you've ever done here
In short order after one of the worst. Wish you could ride tighter to the line with more regularity. Rec’d for sure.
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by Blackout612 on Jul 10, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great write up man.
why does everyone give you so much shit all the time anyway?
rec’d
by Headkick on Jul 10, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Additionally, some commentary
The UFC is much less cut throat with their “cut rule” over the last 18 months and I feel that, culturally, American MMA is waning away from the lose and you’re a loser mentality, with fighters like Wanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell maintaining huge, devoted followings regardless of their many failures. The parity in UFC is partly responsible for this changing dynamic, with Joe Silva having no qualms about matchmaking two major stars that may have, in previous years, lost a great deal of credibility in the event of a loss. In that way, a lot has, and is, changing in the American MMA landscape, particularly (or at least, to start) in the UFC.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Jul 10, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
recd
But I have issues with the UFC is a boxing and pro wrestling mix. All of the “entertainment” in WWE or whatever it’s called now is glamor/fireworks/huge entrances. Not to much of that crap in the UFC. I hated the Rashad vs Rampage trash talk crap.
Incredible write up, information, and I loved the way you explained the difference in MMA from the US to Japan. It truly defines the difference between the two cultures and how we view our MMA fighters.
This might be your best effort yet (outside of Affliction I Banned). I really enjoyed your card and am glad you decided to drop the band.
by Riney on Jul 10, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s weird to compare the UFC to the WWE when it was PRIDE that did things like try to fix the outcome of fights.
by subo on Jul 10, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the exact same thing. But this is one of the better fanposts of the last 6 months.
by Riney on Jul 10, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The comparison is business wise to the WWE, which they followed to a tee.
They both signed toy deals with Jakks, both signed video game deals with THQ, both have a PPV model, and both try to control the entire product and put competitors out of business. I said the actual product and attitude was similar to boxing, unless you are implying that boxing fixes fights. =D
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A post full of true things? I’d be a dick not to rec this.
by subo on Jul 10, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. I’m shocked. I figured there was SOMETHING in a post this long you could dispute.
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by Beer Monster on Jul 10, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah,
Did it during my lunch break at work.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good work son.
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by Beer Monster on Jul 10, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good post
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by Kid Nate on Jul 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post.
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by xFenixKnightx on Jul 11, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec’d
it was entertaining and informative. I had no idea about the Ali angle.
That's great, but how does it affect Lyoto Machida?(This changes nothing, it was a sweet fight though)
by beery_pbr on Jul 10, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
check my MMA History series for more
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by Kid Nate on Jul 10, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it, MMASupremacy, why didn't you leave the UFC bashing alone?
It’s a great article, but you why didn’t you leave you bias at home? You had to insert false/biased allegations when none was needed.
Until this day, it is disputed that the “first smart business move” by Zuffa (since the Fertitta’s were part of the NSAC at the time) was to swipe the UFC away from Meyrowitz. The Fertittas saw the value of the UFC, and Fertitta’s vote forced the NSAC to ban the UFC. Once banned, they purchased the UFC from Meyrowitz and started plans to bring back the UFC and make a huge profit off of a $2 million dollar investment.
This is absolutely false. There is the Zuffa myth, and then there’s the Meyrowitz Myth. It’s been debunked
by cyph on Jul 10, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My post was about the history of MMA, and that was part of the history of the UFC. The feud between Meyrowitz and the Fertitta’s is part of that. That was all, I said it was disputed because Meyrowitz keeps saying his side is true, blah blah blah. Whether it was Fertitta’s vote or not doesn’t matter. What matters is that the UFC got banned, and the Fertittas as NSAC members at the time saw good value in it, bought it, then brought it back. It was practically a 2 million dollar investment.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, there was no vote. You are basically claiming that the Fertitta was responsible for “stealing” the UFC from Meyrowitz. It’s not true. There is no “dispute” about it. What you’re claiming is false.
1. False comments made by Mr. Meyrowitz pertaining to the sale of the UFC brand by SEG to Zuffa strongly imply that Lorenzo Fertitta attempted to improperly use his regulatory authority as a member of the NSAC to doom SEG’s efforts to obtain NSAC approval of MMA.
2. The average member of CNBC’s viewing audience would be tempted or even encouraged by Mr. Meyrowitz’s false statements to believe that Lorenzo Fertitta sought to exploit his NSAC position for personal gain.
3. Mr. Meyrowitz is fully aware that no one ever called and told him Lorenzo Fertitta had changed his "vote" – even had there been such a vote.
4. If any "midnight call" was received by Mr. Meyrowitz in reference to the hearing, it was not regarding any pending approval of MMA in Nevada and it certainly was not from Lorenzo Fertitta himself, any other member of the NSAC or other source authorized to speak on the NSAC’s behalf.
5. Mr. Meyrowitz also gave an inaccurate portrayal to CNBC of how the Zuffa owners first contacted SEG regarding the possible purchase of the UFC brand by claiming that he first received a phone call from Dana White in which Mr. White stated "I have somebody who wants to buy this, you’ll never guess who… I said give me one guess… Lorenzo Fertitta… he said ‘how’d you guess? I said ‘call me lucky.’"
6. Mr. Meyrowitz attempts to demonstrate a sinister motive by falsely stating that the same commissioner that voted against MMA’s approval subsequently tried to approach SEG through a third party to acquire the UFC brand.
7. This description of events relating to Zuffa’s purchase of the UFC assets from SEG aired on CNBC are inaccurate and Mr. Meyrowitz knows full well, at a much later date, months after resigning from the NSAC to pursue his new role as President of Station Casinos, Inc., Lorenzo Fertitta contacted Mr. Meyrowitz directly after learning that Mr. Meyrowitz was interested in selling a controlling interest in the UFC assets.
8. CNBC’s editing of the false statements made by Mr. Meyrowitz are in such a way as it appears that Lorenzo Fertitta "voted" against Mr. Meyrowitz and immediately thereafter had Dana White call Mr. Meyrowitz to indicate that Lorenzo Fertitta wanted to buy the UFC assets. Such editing portrayed to CNBC’s viewers that Lorenzo Fertitta abused his governmental position to obtain a private advantage-an impression that could not be further from the truth.
9. Eighteen months transpired between the NSAC public meeting and the time Lorenzo Fertitta spoke to Mr. Meyrowitz about the purchase of the UFC assets.
10. Mr. Meyrowitz’s claim that the purpose of the (April 1999) meeting was to vote for the approval of MMA by the NSAC is false.
by cyph on Jul 10, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Re-read the sentence again. I fixed it to hopefully prevent anyone from ever saying it is anti Zuffa. I try, but you guys make it very hard. So defensive around here. =p
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not being defense. You have many criticisms of the UFC, and I rarely jump in since you’re at least partly right. However, this is still false. You are still insinuating that the Fertittas voted to ban the UFC. There was NO such vote. There was NO such ban. Furthermore, you’re asserting that they knew they wanted to buy the UFC so they forced Meyrowitz to sell. This is also a blatant lie. The Fertittas took a chance because White thought it was viable. They weren’t sure. It was a bad purchase because they proceeded to lose 40 million afterward. Why would they conspire to buy the UFC when it was a bad business purchase, not a good one as you asserted. You’re still very anti-Zuffa.
This sequence of events is recorded in the written factual record and directly contradicts Mr. Meyrowitz’s recounting of such events during the CNBC interview. The record shows not only that no such vote was scheduled but that the NSAC, of which Lorenzo Fertitta was a commissioner at the time, appeared willing to embrace MMA and investigate it further by sending a committee to attend SEG’s next event, thereby facilitating the process of educating NSAC commissioners about the sport and increasing the chances of MMA’s ultimate approval and regulation.
Doesn’t this contradict everything you wrote?
by cyph on Jul 10, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wrote this:
The Fertittas saw the value of the UFC, and Fertitta’s vote forced the NSAC to ban the UFC (according to Meyrowitz though this was never proven to be true).
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd =)
Although I don’t think the UFC was ever banned. It was never sanctioned.
Once the UFC was bannedAfter Meyrowitz ran the UFC into the ground, the Fertitta’s purchased the UFC from Meyrowitz and started plans to bring back the UFC and make a huge profit off of a $2 million dollar investment.
I would add proceeded to lose $40 million in the process, but that’s just me. =)
by cyph on Jul 10, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Fertittas took a chance because White thought it was viable. They weren’t sure. It was a bad purchase because they proceeded to lose 40 million afterward.
Think about it, if they thought it was a bad business deal, why would anyone spend 2 million dollars on something that was banned? You obviously have to think it is a good investment, that or you have 2 million dollars you want to throw away for some reason. They didn’t know they were going to lose 40 million dollars after the purchase, but they obviously knew they had the money to take some hits if needed.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jul 10, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t think it was a bad purchase at the time. They thought they could take a gamble. The gamble cost them 40 million. This is why I don’t hate the UFC for trying to run business the way they feel is right. Meyrowitz would have run the UFC into the ground and poof, no more MMA, now or probably ever. It took money and balls to throw another 10 million into TUF after 40 million went down the drain.
They had money, they had balls, and they had vision. Nobody knew that TUF would have turned it around. MMA is here today because of the what the Fertittas (and Dana White) did. That is why I think so much of the current anti-Zuffa hate is unwarranted, especially from so called MMA fans.
by cyph on Jul 10, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i wouldn't say debunked
I’d say disputed.
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by Kid Nate on Jul 10, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the history of combat sports, so kudos for mentioning Pankration. It’s still practiced today in some parts of Greece, and is far more the father of MMA that the Roman gladiator montage that opens the PPV.
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by themachiavellian on Jul 10, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s also our Trojan Horse into the Olympics.
by subo on Jul 10, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not keen on MMA as an Olympic sport for pragmatic reasons (the logistics of dealing with injured winners would be a bitch), but it’s a damn shame that submission grappling isn’t in there. Ballroom dancing? Curling? How the hell are those more deserving than the world’s oldest sport?
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by themachiavellian on Jul 10, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want MMA in the Olympics, but...
Ballroom dancing is an Olympic sport? FML.
by Chris Nelson on Jul 10, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
That BJJ (or some other type of submission wrestling) should become an Olympic sport. The rules and regulations could be refined a little bit (anyone who has ever been to a NAGA knows what I’m talking about) but it’s still a competition with representatives from countries all over the world.
by Captain7 on Jul 11, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff. Might want to proofread next time, though.
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by Richard Wade on Jul 10, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by xFenixKnightx on Jul 11, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see MMA in the Olympics
It would really be MMA taking full circle and returning to its orginal home. They could adopt TUF rules as a means of avoiding overly damaged fighters. It would be comparable to having the head gear in olympic boxing.
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