Quote of the Day: Cain Velasquez Talks 'Brown Pride' Tattoo
by Kid Nate on Jun 8, 2009 7:47 PM EDT
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I got my tattoo because I wanted people to know I was Mexican and that I was doing good things with my life. I'm really proud of what I went through to get where I am. Growing up, there wasn't anyone in the media [who was of Mexican decent] who I could look up to. There wasn't anyone who looked like me [in the media], so I never thought I would do something good. I figured I would just go out and join the regular work force. I never thought I'd make a career out of wrestling or fighting. I just wanted everyone to say I was just like them and that I was good at what I did.
Cain Velasquez talks to UFC.com.
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Think before you ink.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Stuff like this makes me uncomfortable.
If he’s proud of his culture, cool, but isn’t there a less-superficial trait with which he can identify? I doubt he’s trying to be a “Brown Supremacist”, but isn’t there more to being Mexican than skin tone?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Eh?
I have no idea what you’re getting at…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
/self-facepalm
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's kinda stupid how people call him racist for a tattoo..
If I tattooed myself with “Filipino Pride” on my chest, that would make me look a bit stupid but it wouldn’t make me racist..
He was talking about a country, Mexico, and people give him shit cause he mentioned a “color”.
LOL!
Hey I don’t teach you American history do I? Hahaha.
But I think it’s cool that you know what you know that. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't even tasted ube bread haha!
Maybe you’re more Pinoy than me! Haha.
Have you tried balot yet? Machida seemed to like it. But then again, he likes urine too..
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate dinuguan!
That shit is gross..I never eat those stuff.
But balot, if you add rock salt and don’t eat the chick,it isn’t as gross as it looks.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, Cain Velasquez is Mexican? All this time I thought he was just really happy with service and fast delivery that UPS provides.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Jun 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Shit, it did a great job making my Carnitas yesterday at Tampico Grill. Sooooo tasty.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
There’s also no one [in the media] who was a douche like you. There’s also no one [in the media] who is as overrated as you. There’s also no one [in the media] who I root for losing more than you. There’s also no one [in the media] who I want to see Shane Carwin murder for 25 minutes than you. There’s also no one [in the media] who trains with AKA that I don’t like .. other than you.
Now that that’s out the way, there’s no one [in the media] who should have anything negative to say about me.
Good thing I'm not in the media
Cause that sounds like a hater trying to be funny. Haha :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, who the hell gets “Brown Pride” tattooed on their chest? An attention whore, that’s who. I guarantee you that if I were to get “White Pride” tattooed in big letters on my chest, I’d be labeled as a racist. I guess that’s my view on the entire thing. I don’t mind the tattoo, per say. I just mind where he got it. I guess it’s better than getting the stupidest tattoos ever, those being the tattoos on the head. Not the back of the head, but on the top of the head. Like, why? I don’t get it. Anyways, that’s my view on it.
I knew there'd at least be 1 guy who brings this up..
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, excuse me but it’s how I feel. He’s a great prospect and a really good fighter but an even bigger douche.
He’s already earned by Worst Tattoo of the Year Douchey Award.
Again, look at my comment above
If he wrote Mexican pride, people wouldn’t hate him. Just cause he used a color, you get all riled up.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
“Mexican” is a culture – “Brown” is a superficial color.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Go back far enough, we’re African anyway.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My whole issue with it is why get it in the first place? If I got something like that, it’d be racist.
I could totally get a ‘Serbian Pride’ tattoo.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It depends on what you got, the problem with white pride is that all the people who get it or something similar are doing it because they are racist, those are the guys who put that specific meaning behind it. They ruined things for the manji too, those Nazi’s really were dicks. Heck “viva la raza” got taken away by WWE fans (many of which probably think it means “cheat to win”), it happens. Having to pay attention to cultural trends is the norm, and is probably a good idea before getting a tattoo.
Now if you got a big ass American flag tattoo’d on your ass you wouldn’t neccessarily be a racist, you may be my neighbor but it doesn’t have a racist connotation. There are plenty of things you can tattoo on yourself as a white American to take pride in who you are that haven’t been ruined by the nazi’s you just have to use a bit of cultural sense.
There are plenty of things you can tattoo on yourself as a white American to take pride in who you are
Like a confederate flag?
Only if the tattoo also involves Bo and Luke Duke and a dodge charger jumping a creek.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re in America, Feivel – you can be whatever you want
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Popeyes one makes me smile. Uncontrollably.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Check these out (#4 is the worst – NSFW – read at your own risk)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Boosh. Although it was actually a tribal band that said ‘Maximum Occupancy: 2’
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Particularly on the neck of the kind of guy who gets tattoos ON HIS NECK.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I love Popeyes.
sweat sweat cause i'm a poisonous pill
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jun 9, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you have to love the mashed potatoes and gravy – gizzards and hearts and necks, oh my!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Ronald McDonald faced similar discrimination over his “Clown Pride” chest tattoo.
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Jun 8, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I’m lovin’ it.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jun 8, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m more worried about the sesame seeds.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
…Whatever you do, don’t order the kids’ meal…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not “Latino Pride” or “Mexican Pride”?
Why does it have to be a color?
Don’t know why it matters though, it’s just some grade C artwork.
That’s the thing: if you’re gonna be taking off your shirt professionally, you ought to spend a little more and get the good stuff.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I love that tatt. Major props to him for representing! Although I myself would’ve tatted Mexican Pride, not Brown pride but its all bueno. lol Torres, Velasquez, Sanchez, Alvarez, Garcia, Huerta (when he was in action) all make me proud. They all have a TON of heart and really show that fighting Mexican spirit all us Mexicans take pride in. Especially Torres for repping “Chente” Vicente Fernandez during his walkouts! It sucks that this has to get into a race issue. He isn’t saying Browns are the best or anything like that. He’s just proud to be Mexicano.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people give him his bread."
True..
He couldve used a better adjective, sure but Being proud of his heritage doesn’t merit getting shit from people and being called a racist.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
First time I ever saw him I really couldnt make out the tatt and thought it said Bronx Pride. Automatically thought he was Puerto Rican lmao!
If you saw Vera or Nover with a tatt like that saying Phillipino Pride you would say thats awesome right?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people give him his bread."
by xFenixKnightx on Jun 8, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd actually be pissed cause that would mean they're not real Filipinos for mispelling it. Haha.
But I get what you mean haha. Nover’s cap that said “mahal kita lola” in tuf was really funny..
That meant “I love you grandma” hahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the problem – he used the wrong word. Imagine if GSP used “White Pride” instead of the fleur-de-lis for his Quebecois roots.
Same cultural pride, different expression, different implication.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that would be a problem
Cause white pride screams “I’m proud to be from Quebec”
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Being Cajun, I fucking love that tat – if the UFC ever comes to New Orleans, he’d better headline – everyone here will go nuts.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
See: Obviously Evil
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to that guy?
Now that is a tattoo worth bashing.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Which one? The Iron Eagle or “I have a small penis” around his navel? Cuz they both suck.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, if we could just give that small penis tattoo to everyone with a swastika tattoo, we’d be in a better place.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brent put it well:
The “I have a small penis” tattoo? Hilarious stuff. I mean, in the same way that getting “are you sure?” tattooed right above the belt line and then “it might be contagious” right below is hilarious.http://www.bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/10/18/9511/5012
by Chris Nelson on Jun 8, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey look, a piece of good business advice ProElite ignored. Weird…
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 9, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Also Roman Zentsov:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6249/zentsov4nv.jpg
Image is too big to post here
That looks more Eastern mysticism than neo-Nazism.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically, a “swastika” is a geometric shape with 90-Degree rotational symmetry – it’s an ancient symbol from the Indus valley, Middle East, & southern Russia. More info & examples here.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It was pretty thoroughly jacked by the Nazis.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they had to go and ruin awesome historical symbols. Dicks.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, at least they wasted their time putting flags on mountains instead of, oh I don’t know, taking Moscow or something.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Off-Topic from the OT, but the Public Enemies trailer is available. Looks awesome!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Mostly because he washed off the makeup and grew back his hair, I think.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I hope the makeup department at a movie studio has something more advanced than Sharpies.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Brown Pride
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
by thetakeover on Jun 8, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Brown should be sponsored by Affliction lol
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people give him his bread."
by xFenixKnightx on Jun 8, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown Pride!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 8, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Baddest man in the whole damn town
Badder than ol’ King Kong
Meaner than a junkyard dog
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 8, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
This whole long ass comment section was worth it for this post.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 10, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, it’s not always about being racial; quite often it’s about being racialized. Taking the skin colour as an obvious marker of difference, people start visually sorting and perceiving not only the way that others who like them act and behave, but also how people who are NOT them act and react towards them, and each other. To an extent we all base a part of our identities on what others project towards us based on appearances, either by accepting and adopting or by intentionally contradicting. It makes sense that some people would take negative, racist perceptions about people of their “colour” (as the defining point used by the racializer) and want to confront it somehow.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
And confronting that has been a goal of just about every right-thinking person since Jung made the case that we inherently simply life into color/race/ethnicity/whatever. Good for you, Cain!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I'll let the late George Carlin reply for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3S_XL3JKgI (Up till 1:23)
Pride should be reserved for something you accomplish, not a genetic accident… But I guess “proud to not be a day labor” doesn’t look as good tattooed on your chest.
by EnsignFrog on Jun 9, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Bill Hicks = George Carlin
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Cause sometimes (the marketers should kill themselves bit comes to mind) I want to say that Hicks > Carlin – but Carlin gets points for longevity, but you can’t penalize a guy for getting cancer…. Shoot, I dunno.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I can’t penalize Hicks for dying young, but I can’t knock Carlin for not dying young. Let’s try a tennis analogy – Carlin is Pete Sampras, Hicks is Rod Laver. Best I’ve ever heard, but lacking Carlin’s resume.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Making choices like this would be like choosing my favorite child.
Oh hell, I can’t lie: I know which kid’s my favorite. It’s not even close. Suck it, second-favorite!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Go cry to mommy, second-best – you’re her favorite (scoff)
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 9, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It evens out a bit because Carlin was less funny later in life.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
You got to this thread a little late
I heart Bill Hicks. Arizona Bay, beginning to end, changes your life the first time you listen to it. George Carlin’s day-by-day calendar was the most beautifully cynical collection I’ve ever owned. December 31 – ’We’re all fucked. It helps to remember that.’ December 8/9:
Feminists want to ban pornography on the grounds that it encourages violence against women. The Japanese consume far more violent and depraved pornography than we do, and yet there is almost no rape reported there. A woman is twenty times more in danger of being raped in the U.S. than she is in Japan. Why? Because Japanese people are decent, civilized, and intelligent.
Who’s your top comedian, Richard?
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 9, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I get to every thread a little late.
As for my top comedian, I refuse to even try to answer that because I know I won’t be satisfied with my answer.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Damn, this got long...
Carlin gets extra points with me for the complexity of his routines, but Hicks has the far better material. I think I have to conclude Hicks > All.
Rant in E-Minor is a pivotal moment for my life – terrified me the first time I heard it, but I felt I had to revisit it. Another dead hero…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 10, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate George Carlin. I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever laughed at one of his jokes.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 10, 2009 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Jokes? I thought those were motivational seminars… hrmmm.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Imagine how thick Japanese people’s photo albums must be.
by Derek Suboticki on Jun 10, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I love George, but he’s intentionally simplifying to make a joke. The St. Patrick’s day parade isn’t about pride so much as it’s a celebration of overcoming prejudice against the Irish. The same is true of Columbus day, black pride, gay pride and brown pride.
These folks aren’t just saying “I’m proud,” They’re saying, “I don’t give a shit what you say – I’m not ashamed to be Irish – in fact I’m proud to be Irish” but that doesn’t fit on a button.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
1. While he said he’s proud to be Mexican, “Brown Pride” often encompasses other Latino nationalities too. Brown links several similar but distinct cultures together. This why it is used more often than “Mexican Pride” or “El Savadorian(?) Pride” or any other.
2. Also Brown Pride is symmetrical Mexican Pride would not be, and aesthetics play (or should anyway) a large role in tattoo choices.
http://www.mma-collective.com/
LOL
El Savadorian Pride would be a bitch to try and fit onto anybodys chest……..at least hes a HW……got a bit of space there!
LOL
no doubt, its been years since school and El Salvador was the first Spanish speaking country that popped into my head
http://www.mma-collective.com/
I’m thinking about getting “European American, German, English, Scottish (on Saint Patrick’s Day) Irish and by birth Filipino Pride”
Complete with commas and parenthesis. I’m thinking that would make for a sweet ass tattoo, maybe I’ll get it in Kanji or maybe even an ambigram tribal. I’m thinking it would look super sweet next to my barbed wire rose.
MUTT PRIDE
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
The issue here isn’t that “white pride” is bad and that “brown pride” is good. It’s that “white pride” has been spoiled as a slogan by the “white power” folks.
We really have done a lousy job of maintaining the “white” brand. Good thing we still control congress, the banks, Wall street, Madison avenue, the media…
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I say we take back white pride, but only people who are as pasty as me can say it. Screw all you overtanned bastards!
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Dude, I challenge you to a pasty-off! I’m practically albino. I get my first sunburn of the year in March. It’s ON.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
I am actually not teh pastiest person, but I am pretty damn pale. I get sunburned if I stay out in the sun for more than 45 minutes or so, no matter what time of year it is. I never seem to tan, but just freckle a whole lot. I am gonna end up an Anti-Jorgenson.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Except nobody’s proud of being ginger.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Hey, as the ginger father of a ginger… yeah, I got nothing.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
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This article has to hold a record for most rec’d comments.
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