Rumor: Roy Nelson and Wes Sims join cast of TUF 10
by Discman2 on Jun 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
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I haven't been following rumors about the next season of The Ultimate Fighter 10: Team Rampage vs Team Evans, with exception to the Kimbo Slice story but I found this rumor to be quite interesting. MMA Madness has the scoop on this rumor.
"Former IFL Heavyweight champion Roy "Big Country" Nelson and UFC veteran Wes Sims will join Kimbo Slice on the cast for The Ultimate Fighter Season 10: The Heavyweights, a source close to the show reported."
Interesting to see the mix of talent that will be in the house this coming season if this rumor proves to be true. You have former NFL players, Kimbo Slice, a former champ in Roy Nelson and Wes Sims. You'll remember that Sims has competed in the UFC before, compiling a 0-3 record with losses to Frank Mir(twice) and Mike Kyle. In his first fight against Mir at UFC 43, Sims was actually disqualified for stomping on Mir's head which led to the rematch at UFC 46. At UFC 47 Sims was knocked out by Kyle but later complained that Kyle had bit him in the chest, an illegal move which was not noticed by the referee.
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Damn, I would LOVE to see Big Country in the UFC. He had a shot at beating Arlovski – that ref standup was total BS.
by MMAEruption on Jun 8, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for Nelson.
So Sims was the douche who stomped Mir’s head…he’s getting another chance because…?
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by themachiavellian on Jun 8, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I always wanted to see Nelson in the UFC just to fill out the UFC heavyweight division
Nelson is a good mid-to-upper-mid tier fighter with good experience. I can’t see him as a title contender, but he is a solid fighter that would most likely be a gatekeeper to the top tier. I was very impressed with his trips when he fought Monson. Despite Nelson’s size, he is actually pretty agile.
by chrisbboy82 on Jun 8, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And boy would he fill out the roster!
rimshot
by Discman2 on Jun 9, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because … Kimbo can beat him.
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by thetakeover on Jun 8, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Dana Call Nelson...
A Fat Azz and said he doesn’t want people to think thats what an MMA fighter looks like?
Either way, it appears that Nelson has WAAAAY too much experience to be in TUF.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 8, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
When Zuffa decided not to pick up former IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson, most of us thought it was simply due to Nelson not being a terribly attractive asset…from a business perspective that is, not literally. Now, however, word is emerging that Nelson’s portly physique is in fact what steered him away from the Octagon, and toward the oversized ring of Affliction.
"Joe Silva was telling me to lose some weight and gain some muscle. He said I need the UFC look," Nelson recently told TAGG Radio. "Nelson went on to say it was the Barnett type treatment and that he didnt want to do steroids or anything stupid [and] said thats just his genetics."
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“The UFC look”, thats mad messed up.
Keep in mind though that this was before Nelson gave AA a run for his money and beat Monson (at least on everyones scorecards at home).
by Flyghtt on Jun 8, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dana sure did say that, and I thought it was bullshit when he did, but it appears the sumbitch has changed his mind. This would be so, so great.
by subo on Jun 8, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TUF 10: Hypocracy
Roy Nelson? Too Fat For UFC
Kimbo Slice? BBQ Fighter
Wes Sims? Stomped Mir In Head
What?
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 8, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims fought twice after stomping Mir in the head, so it’s not like he was excommunicated and then brought back for the show. Nelson’s a legit HW (AND YOUR QUOTE IS ROY NELSON QUOTING JOE SILVA NOT DANA WHITE) and I’ll be thrilled if he’s decided to give those garbage promotions and that bullshit standup against Arlovski the middle finger and come to the Big Leagues.
by subo on Jun 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I quoted Joe Silva, but Dana said it too. Too lazy to go find it.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 8, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Nelson could be the Mick Foley of MMA.
by MMAEruption on Jun 8, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
‘He may not look like much, but he’s got amazing tendon strength’ – Jim Ross
by subo on Jun 8, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I swear, even if you’re not a fan of pro wrestling his book is worth a read. It was my favorite autobiography ever and he is such a good author.
by Zack Gobie on Jun 8, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely – great, great book. Read it when I was like twelve – still have it
by subo on Jun 8, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure he has the testicular fortitude.
by ufc4 on Jun 8, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like Nelson in the cast. He would have a very good chance of being the season’s Mac Danzig, the experienced veteran who wins the show and then doesn’t do anything in the UFC. Leave the field open for the prospects to duel it out.
Sims, on the other hand, would have no chance of winning, and would be great entertainment.
by Foxskinrug on Jun 8, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The difference—I would hope—is that lightweight is a much more competitive class than heavyweight. Agreed on the Sims part, totally.
by An Old Friend on Jun 8, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just too odd to be true.
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 8, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Dana, Kimbo, Rashad, and Rampage confirmed it, I was at least 51% sure that it was true.
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 8, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what’s odd? Kimbo Slice being on TUF
by Discman2 on Jun 8, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I surely never thought I’d say this, but this is the biggest named TUF in history.
by FlyByKnight on Jun 8, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pregnant with a bucket of fried chicken and 7 cheeseburgers.
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 8, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Epic win dude.
I lol’d pretty hard.
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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 9, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With a bit of photoshop work Roy Nelson’s head off the picture Nick Thomas posted would fit in with that picture.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wes Sims rumor had been floating around for a while now but I’m pretty sure it’s because there is a former football player named Wes Shivers that’s supposed to be on the cast and people are mistaking the name. I guess he could be on there but I don’t know why they would bother considering the potential talent that has been rumored for the show.
Roy Nelson on the show would really be putting a ringer in there, he’s top 20 talent and would tear those young guys apart.
A good run down of the season 10 rumors here: http://www.fightbomb.com/Fight-Schedule/the-ultimate-fighter-10.html
by who me on Jun 8, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More like top 30.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 9, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the May 28th meta-rankings had Roy Nelson ranked at 20th.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those were the USAT/SBN Consensus Rankings. The Meta-Rankings have been discontinued. :-)
Also, feel free to append “in my opinion” to my initial comment as that was the basis for it.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes more sense that way :D
Still even a top 30 fighter in a house with a bunch of young guys with little experience is still pretty much a ringer. Perhaps I’ve just gotten used to the declining talent levels on the show as the seasons go by, Roy Nelson doesn’t fit the current mold for the show.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your point still stands. I just don’t think of Nelson as top 20.
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Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well him being on TUF would do nothing to prove any of that or change opinions(unless he lost then he really would come off as overated but he isn’t going to get any credit if he wins this thing).
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please! Name 20 fighters that would beat Nelson.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In no particular order and with a few extra since some are debatable...
…Fedor, Mir, Lesnar, Nog, Barnett, Couture, Mousasi, dos Santos, Kongo, Arlovski, Werdum, Carwin, Cro Cop, Sylvia, Overeem, Gonzaga, Aleks, Silva, Rothwell, Cruz, Hunt, Velasquez…
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by Richard Wade on Jun 9, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I’m for sure calling bullshit on is Marcio Cruz.
by subo on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props for actually naming that many people.
He already beat Rothwell.
Not sure Aleks can be counted as an active fighter.
I truly wish I could agree on Crocop.
Hunt would get subbed.
Cruz? Who’d he beat?
In the coin flip category I’d go with: sylvia, gonzaga, and arlovski as of right now.
Now to help your case I think you overlooked Buentello.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rothwell won a questionable Split Dec – a draw would have been more appropriate.
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by themachiavellian on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did forget Buentello.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 10, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like they’re throwing out the mold for this season. If it’s permanent remains to be seen, but I doubt that names like Kimbo and Roy Nelson are going to be competing for the standard TUF contract, or even dealing with the typical TUF nonsense.
by Phildo on Jun 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TUF does need to be shook up and having more experienced guys on there is a good thing I just don’t know if they can find enough experienced guys to do a whole season now. Just having one or two on a season takes away from the competition angle, if you are going to do veterans you need to do the whole cast as vets.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the ufc signs nelson,
But him being in tuf is unfair.. He’s already a vet that’s ranked in the top 25
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 8, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lets see if he's slimmed down any...
or gained more weight
by Discman2 on Jun 8, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
where the hell is Ricco Rodriquez? Tre Tellingman? Why dont we throw in Giant Silva into this mix as well.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Jun 8, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Giant Silva couldn’t make heavyweight even if they lopped off one of his legs. Ricco Rodriguez would end up back in celebrity rehab after a season in the “free booze” TUF house. Does Tre Tellingman still fight? I rather see him in there than Wes Sims.
by who me on Jun 8, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking ICP – I started hating pro wrestling right around then. That Kurrgan dude was fucking huge too.
by subo on Jun 8, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Telligman was like 40 when he fought Sylvia four years ago. I think he’s retired from fighting.
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by AJB on Jun 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw telligman about 3 weeks ago. he was hangin out w/ Guy Mezger at NAGA Dallas. he’s retired but he looked f’n great. Ripped to shreds and a lot bigger than I had realized.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a huge dude; people forget that. Has a ton of heart too. I hope he’s still training people because he always struck me as a very cerebral fighter, and I think he would have done well in the contemporary MMA game had he been born later.
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by AJB on Jun 9, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he appeared to be coaching what i am guessing was his son or nephew. 8 yr old lookin blonde moppy headed kid who was primarily using wrestling. got 2nd place in advanced no gi for whatever weight class it was…70lbs maybe? the kid’s last name wasnt telligman, but that doesnt necessarily mean it wasnt his kid.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some 17 year old from mmawarehouse stated that James Thompson tried to rematch Kimbo on the show but was detained by Canadian Bounties.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Jun 8, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bounties? Like, paper towels?
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by AJB on Jun 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tuf 10 sounds more interesting by the day with Nelson and Sims being added, this could be one of the most interesting season’s they’ve ever had when does it start btw?.
by Raker on Jun 8, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This takes away from it a bit for me, I was wanting to see young hungry fighters taking Kimbo apart (although Roy normally looks hungry).
by who me on Jun 8, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I getting my washouts mixed up? Isn’t Wes Sims in jail?
by Zack Gobie on Jun 8, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not last I’d heard. He’s fought in Canada several times recently, including (if I’m not mistaken) at that “boxfight” abomination (or whatever the fuck it was called) that almost scuttled MMA in the province.
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by AJB on Jun 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems kind of odd to see someone as highly regarded as Nelson in the house with a bunch of no-names (other than Kimbo). I agree it would be interesting but not 100% sure I believe it yet. Who’s next, Jeff Monson?
by ufc4 on Jun 8, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Jeff Monson could get them to call it “house arrest” ?
by who me on Jun 8, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably wouldn’t work, they don’t fight often enough for Monson.
by ufc4 on Jun 8, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wes sims was a pretty cool guy when i met him. Not sure of physical talent but happy he’s getting a shot.
by Corey N on Jun 9, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t buy the rumor for Nelson. He’s way to good for TUFers. He’s very well-rounded…pun intended.
But he truly is….great ground work, very solid hands. He’d face rape everyone on that show.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
Some of the power displayed by some of the former NFL’ers could catch some of the veterans. Nelson should win the whole thing if he’s on the show though, but there is potential for him to get pummeled in top control by a more powerful guy.
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by Leland Roling on Jun 9, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the show needs now is...
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by Leland Roling on Jun 9, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 9, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Melvin would be awesome
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by Leland Roling on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am so damn bummed that Drysdale couldn’t get on it.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 9, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is why I am so bummed, brain aneurysm is not a happy thing.
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by iiowyn on Jun 9, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wes sims is hilarious but he has no place fighting legit guys. this season will be about absurd personalities getting to fight kimbo on his way to maybe making it to the final. i expect mo smith next
by nigelzackit on Jun 9, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Leland Roling on Jun 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, the other one…the one that cries when you hit him.
man, sapp would be awesome in the house. he’d act tough for a day or two and then cry when people are mean in the house and end up begging dana to go home.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sapp is too big to make heavyweight, he’d have to cut 60lbs, even the Bob Sapp work out tapes couldn’t help him make weight. Shame they can’t do a Super Hulk season of TUF :D
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he gas in the workout tapes? that would be awesome.
by Headkick on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Beast Beat preview video was hilarious, although Sapp in drag may give nightmares.
by who me on Jun 9, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Sapp is awesome.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 9, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sapp would turn this thing into an even bigger freakshow than it already seems to be; of course, i’d want to watch it even more, which is the point. I can’t wait for TUF 10!
by Cmad77 on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder who will be the problem child of that season...
by Zack Gobie on Jun 10, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously the ref stepped in because he was blatantly grabbing the cage
by Discman2 on Jun 10, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it was illegal and all, but that still remains one of my favorite UFC moments.
It gave me flashbacks to the glorious NHB days.
by Steve4192 on Jun 11, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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