Bloody Elbow Judo Chop: Joe Daddy Stevenson Puts a Wrestling Clinic on Nate Diaz
For those of us who picked Nate Diaz to beat Joe "Daddy" Stevenson at the TUF 9 Finale, it was pretty maddening to watch Joe Daddy turn most of the bout into a wrestling match. And if you've followed the brothers Diaz for any length of time you know that getting out-wrestled is how they lose fights.
Stevenson didn't just turn the majority of the match into a standard issue wrestling match, he put on a clinic.
Everyone watching the fight probably realized that something unusual was going on when they saw Nate Diaz in the awkward position on the right. My wife was laughing at how silly it looked. Those with some wrestling experience were spitting out their potato chips and screaming "spladle! spladle!"
Yes kids, that awkward position was no accident. Its a folkstyle wrestling move with a name: the spladle. It took Joe Daddy a long time -- well over a minute to get from the set up to the payoff of the move, but he did it and in so landed in a position where he had control and could do damage. Most importantly, the move took Nate Diaz completely out of his game. This is key for a fighter with a wrestling advantage going up a fighter with a guard as dangerous as Nate's.
The rest of the fight followed a similar pattern and I sense the hand of Stevenson's new Yoda coach Greg Jackson in all this. Throughout the fight, Stevenson scored takedowns from the clinch by executing beautiful rolls that went INTO Diaz' kimura attempts instead of trying to oppose Nate's weight and energy, he turned Diaz' own takedown defense against him.
As always, remember I have no training of any kind. I'm strictly going off of what I've picked up by watching fights, training videos and reading. Let's get nerdy with some animated gifs in the full entry.
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On the right we've got the setup. About 3:30 into the first round. Diaz was working for a single leg takedown on Stevenson's left leg. Rather than staying parallel with Diaz' body after sprawling, Stevenson basically gives up the leg and rotates so he's perpendicular with Diaz' body. Initially, he's got a double-under bodylock (meaning both arms are under Diaz' arms and he's locking his hands together around Nate's chest). Then he releases the hold and hooks Nate's left arm with his own left arm. He's got crucifix control. This leaves his right free to punch Diaz's unprotected head.
The gif on the left is almost a minute later, Joe still has both of Nate's arms wrapped up but Nate has managed to get his butt way up in the air and is attempting to turn Joe Daddy's crucifix against him by grabbing Stevenson's right leg and driving for a takedown. Stevenson cleverly seizes the opportunity this presents to unhook Diaz' arm with his left leg and instead hook Diaz' right leg behind the knee. Welcome to the spladle Nate Diaz!
I could be wrong but something tells me that Nate Diaz hasn't spent a great deal of time defending against the spladle. Strategically, this is just great game-planning on Jackson and Stevenson's part. Play into Joe's wrestling advantage and attack Diaz with moves he's just not that familiar with. Sure its not a finishing move and Nate escaped fairly quickly, but its the definition of Octagon control. And its so much better to be threatening Diaz with exotic wrestling moves than defending against his arsenal of triangles, kimuras and throws.
Now we get to the rolls. In each round Stevenson and Diaz found themselves in a position common to Diaz' recent bouts with Josh Neer and Clay Guida, back to the fence, opponent driving for a single or double leg takedown. Even I noticed that in that situation Diaz tends to use his length to lean away from the takedown attempt and try to establish a kimura on his opponent's right arm.
Jackson and Stevenson clearly worked up a gameplan for this situation and it worked, not once, not twice but four times, once every round and twice in the third. Each time it gave Joe Daddy the definitive takedown he needed to establish top control and score points on the judges cards. Even better, Joe avoided landing in Diaz' dangerous guard.
There are some variations, in a couple of cases Stevenson was working a double leg, most of the time a single. But watching the gifs side by side its literally hard to tell them apart. Stevenson just kept scoring with the same move in the same situation over and over again. That's not just good game planning on Stevenson's team's part, its a failure to adjust on the part of Diaz and his corner.
This was a hard fought win over a very dangerous opponent for Stevenson and I'm glad to see him turn things around, he's clearly a UFC level fighter and has a place even in the murderous UFC 155lb division.
There was some confusion as to whether or not Stevenson was executing a "Granby Roll" but I'm pretty confident none of these rolls is a Granby. Mainly because a Granby starts out with the roller in an inferior position to the rollee -- usually the rollee has the roller's back.
As always those with actual expertise please jump into the comments and correct my many errors.
Gifs by Chris Nelson. Thanks Chris!
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Nate, you picked "Nick Diaz"
to beat Joe Daddy?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
dammit
I knew I was going to do that. I checked and checked and then left it in the very first sentence!
thanks for keeping me honest.
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Joe Daddy must’ve felt like he could do that move at all on Nate. Team Cesar Gracie needs to work on avoiding that.
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I picked Daddy to win this fight
over “Nate” mostly because I knew there was no way he would spend the entire fight on his feet like was the case for the most part against Sanchez. That, coupled with the fact that Daddy had absolutely no fear of Nate’s bitch-slapping striking game spelled easy money for me.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
This is one of my picks that made me feel vindicated in my ability to pick fights.
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by Rundownloser on Jun 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget
he used that same takedown (rolling into the kimura attempt instead of away from it) multiple times against NATE Diaz. Nate had no clue how to stop it. that was probably Joe Daddy’s best fight to date. thank god he abandoned the shitty kickboxing, at least for one fight.
and that's what comes ...
from commenting without reading the whole post … y’know, where i skip the whole part where you pointed out exactly what i just said …
my bad.
by bobthewriter on Jun 26, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was the one screaming spladle. My coach told me to never do it or I would have to run sprints. He said it was a fishkiller move. Also a headlock. And a move that the name escapes me where you start in ref’s position and reach up under the opps with your back hand and lock to your other hand over the opps far shoulder and fold his fount up under his back to go for the pin.
What’s a fishkiller move?
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by RearNakedChoker on Jun 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a move that should only work vs new fish, guys that have not wrestled that long. If he saw you do one he would yell at you. Punishment = sprints or neck bridges on the wood floor for 6 mins a pop or buddy carries on the stairs. We were not a very skilled team, but we were the best conditioned. We ran more then the track team.
Which means that Nate Diaz is a “fish.” Perhaps he should do some buddy carries.
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Ah…Fishkiller. Makes total sense now! Thanks for the clarification. ;)
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by RearNakedChoker on Jun 26, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad someone finally mentioned the roll! Everytime Stevenson did it, I was waiting on Rogan to comment about it, but for some reason, it seemed like him and Goldberg were ignoring it, or just didn’t know what to say about it.
One of the coolest techniques I’ve seen recently, and something I would definitely like to add to my arsenal.
Great post!
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by RearNakedChoker on Jun 26, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
I wrote an entire article based on the fact that Nate would defeat Joe, but.. I did mention that fact that there was one way in which Stevenson could win… and he worked the PERFECT gameplan against Nate. Touche to Joe Stevenson.
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Nick’s wrestling didn’t lead to him losing. He went for subs which sadly is a negative under unified rules.
He stuffed all of Sherk’s takedowns and even took him down.
those fights were full of transitions, so it’s a little unfair to say wrestling cost him the fight. Also he beat Karo.
No he lost a decision to Karo
Karo won the fight.
And I will continue to say that it was Diaz’ inability to get or keep dominant position against Diego and Karo that cost him those fights. He didn’t get outstruck in those bouts and he didn’t get submitted, he got out-wrestled.
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I love Diaz
and am a huge nut thugger (check my posts) but Kid Nate is correct.
And he didn't stuff all of Sherk's takedowns
He spent most of the fight being pressed up against the fence by Sherk but also spent a fair bit on his back. More time than Sherk did by far.
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Not a granby roll
Its known in judo as a Yoko Otoshi or a Yoko Guruma—its a great counter to headlock-control Harai Goshi or other headlock throws. Never thought of using it against a Harai Makikomi (kimura/arm-wrapping throws like the diaz bros do).
Makikomi throws have HUGE weaknesses, like the opponent deciding to stick to your back (e.g. Guida) or reversing with sacrifice throws (Stevenson). Every time I saw the diaz guys do it I would scream at the tv.
the Makikomi
are “fishkillers” — they work great against guys who don’t know what you’re doing.
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In all honesty, has anyone else heard or used the term “fishkiller” before? I think it might just be me and the region I live/wrestled in. Could be phishkiller too.
i have a hard time seeing either Otoshi or Guruma
dont watch the grips
watch the body movement (rolling forward over right shoulder) and watch joes left leg (blocking diaz’s right leg from stepping forward to keep his base)
interesting similarities
and either is probably closer than a granby roll but I still don’t think its a perfect fit.
But my all means, keep commenting! great stuff.
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when i wrestled
we just called that finish a roll-through. easy-peasy japanese-y.
From my experience
The Granby is only used when the opponent is on your back in what’s called “referees position” one of the neutral starting positions for folkstyle wrestling. It’s similar to the turtle position.
As long as we’re posting sweet judo videos, I’ll use that as an excuse to post these: Best of Judo and a Highlight video of Toshihiko Koga
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by Rundownloser on Jun 26, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
EA sports logo
Completely unrelated, I didn’t notice the EA sports logo there before on the mat. I know the UFC has an exclusive deal with THQ for a bit, but I also know the UFC is pretty stringent with they allow advertise with them. Good to know UFC is keeping their door open with EA
I want Sherk vs Guida
both were on the edge of contention and had a big loss.
Joe Daddy has earned a tune up fight or two IMO.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sherk vs. Guida would be interesting. Fisher would be a good fight for Stevenson.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 27, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions

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