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"It is nothing to do with my grappling skills," Aoki replied. "Anybody who has experience of grappling should know about this. This questions seems for non professional."

- Shinya Aoki talking to Michael David Smith of AOL FanHouse regarding whether or not Aoki's pants aid his grappling efforts.

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So are they just to look cool?

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, to look awesome.

He just discovered that we know for the pants and ain’t too happy about it.

by spectaa on Jun 25, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aokis pants dont just help his grappling efforts, they help him in all aspects of winning…..they are magic pants after all!!!!!

by GeeDub on Jun 25, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say legalize 'em!

But would also like to see Aoki tested without the pants.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You just wanna see him grapple naked!

"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy

by Benicio on Jun 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see how pants could help anyone grapple more than handwraps help increase punching power.

by Dropkick434 on Jun 25, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Exactly why they should be legalized.

by cmsove on Jun 25, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Increase the friction, decrease the influence of sweat, make it harder to escape submissions.

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by themachiavellian on Jun 25, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Shh!

Stop it, let them think its irrelevant!

by asa on Jun 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is bad because?

Oh yeah I forgot the huge outpouring of complaints because so many fights were coming to exciting and definitive conclusions via submission instead of grinding to decision.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No offense, Nate, but you can be pretty fun when this stuff comes up. themachiavellian didn’t say anything about them being bad.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 25, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I’m ambivalent. Aoki is an excellent grappler with them, Nog is an excellent grappler without. I do think the pants help, but if he didn’t have the skills, they wouldn’t matter. And anyone fighting in Japan has the option of wearing them, so it’s a level playing field limited by personal preference.

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by themachiavellian on Jun 25, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never worn pants like that, but from two years of grappling I’d say they help a lot once the sweat is flowing. But on that note, I’d love to see them legalized in the US. I think we’d see a small but appreciable increase in submission finishes in later rounds. I’m just making this up, but it sounds good so I’m sticking with it.

by cmsove on Jun 25, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the idea of standard clothing worn by fighters. It eliminates the question of advantage. I don’t think it really help, but it doesn’t matter.

by szucconi on Jun 25, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Then why aren’t they allowed in the Abu Dhabi comp…

"Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men," who shun sex, don’t spend money, and like taking walks."

Did they all get married?

- Ubernoober

by SamCupitt on Jun 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I said this like a year ago. The pants have nothing to do with his grappling ability. As someone above stated, it matters when there would otherwise be a lot of sweat and difficulty executing submissions. Aoki doesn’t really finish fights in the third round – it’s either fast or it’s a decision.

As for why they aren’t allowed in ADCC, I’m not sure. Tons of guys wear rash guards and t-shirts so I don’t see why pants would be any different. But I’m not specifically knowledgeable about these sort of rules in grappling competitions.

by Ahhhoki on Jun 25, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not saying he’s useless without them or anything, but for the most part his game is centered around his high guard which the extra grip of the zubaz helps out

"Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men," who shun sex, don’t spend money, and like taking walks."

Did they all get married?

- Ubernoober

by SamCupitt on Jun 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Theres pros and cons to them that I think balance out in the end. At times minimal extra grip is a disadvantage. When he finished via gogo, sliding his shin under his opponents chins would have been easier with less grip. But I think any advantage or disadvantage is so small its irrelevant.

Also he hasnt always worn the pants. He has plenty of solid wins without them so those who wanna see how he does without them, just watch his old fights.

by GeeDub on Jun 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is nothing to do with my grappling skills. Anybody who has experience of grappling should know about this.

Actually, it seems to be the opposite from what I’ve observed.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 25, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jose Canseco....

He wore grappling pants in his debut against Choi. By your logic, the magic pants should have given Canseco ultimate fighting powerz?

by Bandaka on Jun 25, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those looked closer to sweat pants. And beyond that, I’m only saying that those with grappling ability are more likely to suggest that the pants are an advantage (depending on your style) than somebody without a grappling background from what I’ve seen.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

 But they are so awesome!

by Bandaka on Jun 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That I cannot deny.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the pants do nothing, then why were so many people suggesting that aoki magic pants were the solution to greasing?

by toxic on Jun 25, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually...

they looked more like lulu lemon pants to me… i dont know what the hell jose was thinking!

by bluejitz on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pants help him grapple. I’m not an expert, but that’s my opinion. I would like to see him fight without them if it’s not such a big deal.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Jun 25, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is there a hell of a difference between....

The “magic” pants and fight shorts, with knee wraps/braces and ankle wraps/braces? Seems like once you get done with all that extra material for your legs you damn near have a similar thing.

by soadtrails on Jun 25, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If they don’t make that much difference, I guess we can expect to see him working his way though most of the UFC’s light-weight division at some stage in the future?

by brad23 on Jun 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Bravo encourages the use of pants because of the friction it adds.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Bravo encourages the use of bongs because of … uh…. shit, what were we talking about? Man, I’m so fried.

Fixed for accurate Eddie Bravo articulation of the concept.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I asked Aoki in an e-mail interview set up by Dream whether his pants aid his grappling skills, and his response (as translated by a Dream PR representative)…

Hmmm… I suppose that’s the reason why Smith only got one question answered.

by ikari47 on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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