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Interesting Developments in the Case of Satoshi Ishii

Satoshi_ishii_3_mediumAccording to Yahoo! Japan, Satoshi Ishii's debut will likely be pushed back to Sengoku XI on November 7th instead of the rumored debut date of August 2nd. Sengoku's public relations' department cited that they didn't want to push Ishii, and they'd like to be very careful with the 2008 Olympic Gold Medalist Judo champion. This has caused a bit of a stir among hardcore fans as to what the holdup may actually be from Ishii, and there have been some strange things going on with Ishii as of late.

Zach Arnold over at MMAMemories.com has an article pointing out the strange happenings in Japan. While Zach has a flare for the keying in on and creating controversy, some of the points he makes do create a little confusion. Interestingly enough, Ishii was reported to have been at a photo-op a few days ago in which he talked about his future plans in MMA. Two days later, it was revealed that he had sustained a minor hernia-related injury and would have surgery on June 25th. With Sengoku's PR coming out and simply stating they don't want to rush Ishii, it seems a bit strange that Ishii suddenly was pushed back two days after stating his future plans in the sport in relation to his debut coming up.

Arnold points out that his training is either not going well, his management team is unsatisfied with the opponents being offered to Ishii, or there is less interest than previously thought in Ishii's debut fight. All of these are valid concerns for Ishii's management, but also a concern for Sengoku as they are probably dumping some huge capital into Ishii.

Training may be a huge problem right now, but I think the possibility of finding good opponents that Ishii can defeat is the bigger issue. Ishii will still need real in-ring experience in order to be a top-flight heavyweight, and he'll need to be brought up carefully instead of being thrown to the wolves in classic Japanese MMA style.

The big problem is that Sengoku's heavyweight division is very shallow at the bottom. Fujita is one of the bottom guys within the division along with a near-retirement Hidehiko Yoshida and Yoshihiro "KISS" Nakao. The problem is that all of those names have potential to defeat a green Satoshi Ishii at this point in his career. Fujita may be old, but he does have the wrestling ability to power opponents to the floor and eek out decisions. Nakao has power in his hands, and Yoshida has the lasting ability coupled with the judo to potentially upset Ishii. Out of all of those names however, Yoshida may be the easiest to defeat. He's long been rumored to be Ishii's debut opponent, but nothing has been confirmed.

After those names, we begin entering bigger fights that easily could sidetrack Ishii's progress. Names like Roger Gracie and Antonio Silva come to mind, but the prospect of picking up DREAM heavyweights to fight Ishii has also come up. The problem is that the DREAM heavyweight roster doesn't help at all. Mark Hunt, Sergei Kharitonov, Rameau Sokoudjou, Jeff Monson, Gegard Mousasi, and even potentially throwing in Josh Barnett down the road. I would suggest "Big" Jim York, but he's been sucked into the TUF vortex with the UFC.

In my mind, this is what made Sengoku a horrible choice for Ishii. Sure, he'll get paid the big bucks in sponsorships in Japan, but his chance to showcase his talent in the ring is limited due to the shallow talent pool. Unless Sengoku pulls from promotions like DEEP, HEAT, M-1, or Pancrase to find greener opponents for Ishii, it doesn't seem like a great fit at all. The UFC would have likely been able to produce a much larger stable of easier opponents for him to help him develop into a better fighter.

Now, we can only hope Monte Cox pushes Tim Sylvia to Sengoku to take on Ishii. I would watch that in a heartbeat.

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I think they’ll be able to find cans for Ishii. Japanese pro wrestling still has a large stock of heavyweights with no fighting skills.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know. I think there are some legitimate up-and-comers in DEEP and HEAT that Satoshi could pummel. I think that’s a better line to cross, but Japan loves the wrestler bullshit.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him start out with an old

kickboxer like Arnold suggests, work up to an old (or small) pro wrestler with no legit skiils, then maybe a very green kid from DEEP, then maybe an aging brawler, etc. At least 5 fights against cans from different backgrounds before getting his first test against an aging or undersized mma fighter.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only have one problem with an old kickboxer… some of those guys could KO Ishii in one foul swoop of their leg. I was thinking Kazuhisa Tazawa as he’s a up-and-comer in DEEP I believe. If he fought someone like Ray Sefo, I wouldn’t be opposed to that. Le Banner would be tough though because the man never says die. It could be dangerous.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're all going to be dangerous

all they can do is give him an excellent chance of winning, anything can happen in a fight.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is true. It’s a bit tough to gauge his skills since we haven’t seen him in the ring.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

and more importantly

his heart and his presence of mind.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

We know he is vulnerable to kicks, Machida broke his jaw with one. Though Machida probably had to walk with a limp for a few days, Ishii’s head is unreal.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 25, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Shamrock is the only sure way to get Ishii a win.

by cmsove on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Ken would actually be a good 2nd or 3rd opponent for Ishii

seriously. good name ID, not a threat, but not entirely helpless either.

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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was only half joking. But I’m not convinced he’d be a bad first opponent either.

by cmsove on Jun 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My advise:

1) WWE
2) Min-Soo Kim
3) Heath Herring
4) Randy Couture

by Brasil com luvas on Jun 25, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

You’re missing the penis sword of power.

"Japan panics about the rise of "grass-eating men," who shun sex, don’t spend money, and like taking walks."

Did they all get married?

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by Sam Cupitt on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giving Ishi a can is just a waste of his talent. Throw him in with the wolves! If he wins his stock grows even faster.

by Bandaka on Jun 25, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

So give him the Nastula treatment? That’s silly.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 25, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It seems far-fetched to me that Sengoku couldn’t find a relatively safe, inexeperienced heavyweight willing to take a high-profile, low-risk, high-reward fight. Who says they need to pull from their existing talent pool?

by JRN on Jun 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe nobody has suggested the obvious…Ray Mercer.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll have you know Ray Mercer has two impressive victories over the former UFC HW champion and Tommy Gunn.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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