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Shane Carwin Calls Brock Lesnar a Liar

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In a recent interview with GroundNPound, Brock Lesnar was quoted saying: I_cfc_medium

I do not see them (Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez) as threats to me. I like to keep a mindset like that. They are both great wrestlers. Shane Carwin and I actually met the day before UFC 96. He is a great guy - we actually had our punch forces tested too.

We were told to throw the hardest right cross we could on a punching bag. I was able to rack up 1350 pounds per square inch. He did a little over 1200, making my punch harder.

Shane Carwin talked to Fiveouncesofpain.com and he denied ever doing a "punching contest" with Lesnar:

"The guy is a freaking liar. We never meet at UFC 96, I was getting ready for a battle with Gonzaga not hanging out at Dave and Busters with Brock. I do not understand why guys like Brock claim to have tested against me. He has the belt, shouldn’t he be the standard?"

UPDATE - The interview was a fake. GroundNPound issued this statement:

First off, GNP would like to apologize to Brock Lesnar, his fans and all the site members.
June 23rd an interview was posted on the front page, somehow access was gained to the main administrator account and the person responsible posted the "fake" interview.

Im not sure if the interview was real and just copy/pasted from another source or if the interview was just made up by the person who gained access to the site. Either way, GNP, myself or any of the other admins on the site had anything to do with it.

Again, we are sorry that it happened and we are both looking into the actual cause and method used to gain access. rest assured we will take steps to prevent it from happening again as we find the holes in our security.

HT: Jesse Holland

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Shane Carwin also went on to deny a few more rumors, such as him helping Randy Couture train for Brock and a UFC 103 fight against Cain Velasquez:

Earlier reports had me training with Couture while he was training for Brock, again a total BS rumor. I have never trained with Randy Couture.

...

No I am not fighting on UFC 103. I have not heard from the UFC for some time now. I am without my training partners and coaches as they are on a "camping trip", and again, I have not heard anything about fighting anyone yet.

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i dont know if this is exactly “Quote of the Day” worthy, but i think it is pretty interesting cause it adds fuel to a potential carwin vs lesnar matchup..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 24, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Indeed.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people... give him his bread."

by xFenixKnightx on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And makes it more of a reality. Add spice to taste!

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Jun 24, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

:P

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people... give him his bread."

by xFenixKnightx on Jun 24, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

indeed

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, so Brock Lesnar is a jackass? Shocking!

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 24, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

 * waits patiently for the brock apologists *

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock has #’s. Carwin is lying because of the shame of coming in 2nd.

by bigweeze on Jun 24, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lesnar, Carwin

The set up for the biggest Heavyweight match, literally and perhaps figuratively, has begun.

...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Jun 24, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

eh

Carwin might actually win that fight, so I have a feeling it will be years before we see it.

In the meantime, Brock will have his hands full beating Couture, Nog, Coleman, Abbott, Shamrock… who else?

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mur/Lesnar 3

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 24, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lose 3 in a row & get cut, withdraw from public life forever.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 24, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being homophobic, racist, a douchebag (in my opinion) and now an alleged liar just isn’t enough. Crazy I know, but I still need more.

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

How bout as a fighter?

Does he have to beat murr and fedor for you to like him? Or will that be him still “picking on guys smaller than him?”

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 24, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am seriously baffled by your comment… For the sake of rationality I have to believe that you wrote it without thinking it through.

If he beats Mir and Fedor, why would I suddenly forget what a homophobic, racist, douchbag (in my opinion) and alleged liar he is?

Is that how you see the world? “If only Saddam Hussein was a better fighter, people would have loved him.” Strange.

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

what?

i know you’ll never like him as a person.. But i was asking if there was a chance that you’d like him as a fighter..

I think nick diaz is a dick, but i like the way he fights so i root for him at times.. It’s not all that impossible to like a fighter even if you hate his personality you know… but i guess that comment also answers my question..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 24, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Nick Diaz is a dick too, and he’s one of my favorite fighters.

When did i ever say that Brock couldn’t fight tho?

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah..... Nick Diaz gets annoyin

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by i love sports101 on Jun 24, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very

but his fight style is very original and entertaining. I enjoy watching his fights.

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is me asking a serious question: do you think Brock is a good fighter?

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 24, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY now,

I am the president of the fanclub “Dickheads of MMA”, you have paid no dues.
Diaz Brothers
Hughes
Jake Shields
Mayhem
Brock the Cock
and many many more coming soon to a ring/cage/octagon/DQ parking lot near you.

by Riney on Jun 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did War Machine get lost on the way to the sign ups?

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s “Dickheads” he’s just stupid.

by Riney on Jun 24, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Warmachine is not for the discriminating dickhead fan.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 24, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not going to happen.

Because Mir’s gonna take another one of Brock’s limbs home.

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'09 is the year of the FW's.

by ElliotMatheny on Jun 24, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

A proverbial limb.

heh

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'09 is the year of the FW's.

by ElliotMatheny on Jun 25, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brock Lesnar doesn't know any better.

Lesnar only knows how to get attention outside of a sports performance by being a dick head and a heel. I trully believe the man loves to be hated because he doesn’t know any better. That being said, I believe that Lesnar is going to destroy Frank MIr. Carwin is the only currently active UFC HW that poses a serious threat to him. IMO.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 24, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I want Mir to beat Lesnar again, but I don’t think it will happen.

by goodbones on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I want Mir to beat Lesnar as well. The thing with Lesnar that will always be a factor is Lesnar’s size. One punch that doesn’t even land flush is capable of dropping an opponent, and he can also muscle fighters around the cage.

by chrisbboy82 on Jun 24, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, so who lied about him training with Couture? Shane is accusing multiple people of lying here, not jsut Brock..

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 24, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no idea who to believe,

but I am kind of thinking along with you Subo. Exactly how many people are out there spreading these lies about Carwin? lol

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Jun 24, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was also a Supplement company that put up a Carwin commercial without his permission.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I swear i recall Couture himself say that he brought Carwin in as a sparring partner, to try and replicate Brock’s power and size. Maybe i’m wrong though, but i swear i heard randy say that in a filmed interview.

by J_Maddux on Jun 24, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i think i saw that in the countdown video too..

not sure if it’s randy though.. maybe it’s joe rogan who said that?

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 24, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only person i recall ever saying this is Joe Rogan

by reciprocal on Jun 24, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Joe Rogan said it, can't for the life of me remember when he said it though.

Could have been during his walkout for the Gonzaga fight..? Can’t be bothered checking though :-)

by Well Read Idiot on Jun 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently it was on "Inside MMA"

According to MMA Fanhouse:

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2008/09/20/randy-couture-prepares-for-brock-lesnar-with-shane-carwin-as-his/

The answer, it turns out, is that Couture is sparring with another enormous fighter who was a very good college wrestling: Shane Carwin, who was an NCAA Division II wrestling champion and is now 9-0 in his professional mixed martial arts career. On this week’s Inside MMA, it was reported that Carwin (who himself is preparing for a fight against Neil Wain at UFC 89) is serving as the sparring partner for Couture.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

by ufc4 on Jun 25, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

it was Josh Hendricks, who is also a very good collegiate wrestler

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by ElliotMatheny on Jun 25, 2009 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Perez Hilton if you ask me.

Maybe he should twitter about it.

by kick on Jun 24, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

How legit is GroundNpound? Could it be they put up a fake interview? I stick to the Elbow & Junkie mainly, so I honestly don’t know much about them.

That’s a strange thing to lie about, and I can’t think of any reasons why Brock’s mind would fabricate a story like that. If it is true, well that’s some weird shit.

Also, all this I’m hearing about Brock’s homophobia rubs me the wrong way. (ooh, pun? unintentional) But where’s the racist acussation’s coming from? The “built like a brother” comment? I would think that was him being complimentary, but maybe I’m seeing it wrong or missing something?

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jun 24, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, i’m noticing that. :)

I thought Brock was going to be a good representative of the sport, but there’s nothing wrong with him being the villain I guess. Is there any more to the racist accusations besides the Maxim comment?

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jun 24, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird I know. Normally I love homophobic racists who act like spoiled, entitled jerks (in my opinion).
I guess my question is — why does it bother you so much who I like or don’t like?

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Myth, if that comment is aimed at me, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn’t calling you out on your opinion. On the contrary, I agree with your line of thought, I was just wondering if anyone knows of any other racist comments Brock has made.

I dislike racists, homophobes and douchebags too, I just wouldn’t say that he’s racist based on the Maxim article.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jun 24, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

it was aimed at Weo, not you :)

by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't bother me at all.

I was merely mentioning it. :)

If anything, I find it amusing.. I dislike some fighters also, but not as passionately as you. I think I’d actually enjoy watching a UFC PPV with you. Haha.

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 25, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I don’t passionately anything him. There just seems to be a few people on this site who make it their goal to jump all over anyone who doesn’t pretend that Brock is an MMA god.

Please notice, as an example, that you have twice in this thread diverted the subject to my like/dislike of Lesnar, rather than the actual topic.

by mythbuster on Jun 25, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard for the rest of us to believe that you don’t loathe the guy.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 25, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you ask me I dont think Brock or Carwin said any of this., Or Brocks quotes were made up and then brought up to Carwin.

by reciprocal on Jun 24, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

It sounds like it could be the latter.

"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"

by RearNakedChoker on Jun 24, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

WWE?

Someone let Brock know he is no longer in the WWE

by KING FEDOR on Jun 24, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think he realized that when he beat Heath Herring and Randy Couture.

Of course, being a heel travels with you – he’s selling fights the best way he knows how. He doesn’t care if you like him or not – just that you watch.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

While you are at it can you inform BJ Penn, Rashad Evans, and Frank Mir as well, because Brock is OBVIOUSLY the only guy in the UFC that talks shit to try and sell a fight.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

by ufc4 on Jun 25, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

all that drama for naught :)

by mythbuster on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of fake interviews going around lately, people trolling on the UG and making websites to source the fake interviews.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m reccing the sig line.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

From “There Will Be Blood”, no?

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know why Shane wasn't invited on the camping trip?

He was the only guy in his gym to answer the following question with a yes:

“If you went camping, and you woke up, and you couldn’t remember anything, and your butt was really sore, would you tell anyone?”

by begottenson on Jun 25, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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