USAT/SBN June MMA Consensus Rankings: Welterweight
| Rank | Fighter | % | Promotion | Last Rank |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Georges St. Pierre | 100 | UFC | 1 |
| 2 | Thiago Alves | 94 | UFC | 2 |
| 3 | Jon Fitch | 91 | UFC | 3 |
| 4 | Jake Shields | 89 | Strikeforce | 4 |
| 5 | Matt Hughes | 74 | UFC | 5 |
| 6 | Martin Kampmann | 72 | UFC | 7 |
| 7 | Mike Swick | 69 | UFC | 9 |
| 8 | Josh Koscheck | 69 | UFC | 6 |
| 9 | Carlos Condit | 55 | UFC | 8 |
| 10 | Paulo Thiago | 47 | UFC | 11 |
| 11 | Hayato Sakurai | 39 | DREAM | 12 |
| 12 | Dan Hardy | 32 | UFC | 20 |
| 13 | Karo Parisyan | 30 | UFC | 10 |
| 14 | Nick Thompson | 29 | Strikeforce | 13 |
| 15 | Brock Larson | 29 | UFC | 15 |
| 16 | Jay Hieron | 23 | Affliction | 19 |
| 17 | Dustin Hazelett | 22 | UFC | 18 |
| 18 | Matt Serra | 18 | UFC | 14 |
| 18 | Nick Diaz | 18 | Strikeforce | 17 |
| 20 | Marcus Davis | 17 | UFC | 16 |
| 21 | Shinya Aoki | 16 | DREAM | 25 |
| 22 | Chris Lytle | 15 | UFC | 23 |
| 23 | Anthony Johnson | 15 | UFC | 22 |
| 23 | Frank Trigg | 15 | UFC | 26 |
| 25 | Lyman Good | 14 | Bellator | NR |
Rankings compiled by Richard Wade.
We're getting very close to what will easily be the most important welterweight fight of the year: #1 Georges St. Pierre vs #2 Thiago Alves at UFC 100 on July 11th. Its easy to forget just how much is at stake in that fight. A GSP win will make a strong argument that he has effectively cleaned out the division. Let the talk of a super-bout between St. Pierre and #1 middleweight Anderson Silva begin!
But not so fast, #2 Thiago Alves is a very dangerous opponent for GSP or any welterweight. Heck, Alves is so huge, he's a threat to anyone fighting under 200lbs. His powerful Muay Thai and takedown defense have brought low a string of fabled welterweights including #5 Matt Hughes and #13 Karo Parisyan back-to-back. If Alves beats GSP, particularly if it's by way of KTFO, then we could easily have the next dominant champion on our hands. If you don't think that's a real possibility, ask #2 featherweight Urijah Faber how quickly a reign atop a division can end.
#3 Jon Fitch will face #10 Paulo Thiago on that same card. Fitch will be looking to avenge his teammate #8 Josh Koscheck and Thiago will be looking to prove he's not a fluke. Should Fitch win, he'll have to be rooting for Alves to beat GSP, as he utterly battered Alves back in 2006. Dominating wins by both Alves and Fitch could set up an immediate logical title fight between the two. A GSP win will send Fitch back into the wilderness, regardless of how his fight goes.
#4 Jake Shields seemingly cemented his status as the best non-UFC welterweight in the world by choking out #7 middleweight Robbie Lawler at Strikeforce's June 6th show. He managed to win without particularly impressing many critics who felt his standup was not top level. No idea what's next for Shields as the Strikeforce division is thinner than cabbage water.
Bloody Elbow's own Michael Rome has called for #6 Martin Kampmann and #7 Mike Swick to face each other in September. That would be a very logical title-eliminator bout but the rumor mill and Mike Swick both seem to want to see "Quick" take on former champ #5 Matt Hughes. Kampmann has already turned down the unranked but formidable T.J. Grant.
#12 Dan Hardy could be a good opponent for either Swick or Kampmann as well. Hardy's UFC 99 win over #20 Marcus Davis wasn't without controversy, but it does add an air of legitimacy to Hardy's status in the division. We'll see how he handles any of the monster wrestlers in the division before I get too carried away.
#8 Josh Koscheck will be welcoming #17 middleweight Frank Trigg back to his old division at UFC 103. The winner of that bout will re-emerge as a contender if it's done in dominant fashion.
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I want to see
Shields vs
Hughes
Fitch
Swick
Kos
Kamp
anyone really. Why is Nick Diaz still ranked at 170? Thought he was 185 bound. I think he has great potential now that he is not cutting so much wieght.
by Riney on Jun 24, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s supposedly moving back down, but who knows?
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by Richard Wade on Jun 24, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it takes forever for the Consensus Rankings to adapt
when a fighter changes weight classes, even worse is when they bounce back and forth.
There is just no widely agreed on criteria for deciding when a fighter is in a new weight class. Many sites do it by last fight and some sites apparently have no rhyme or reason behind it.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 24, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
koscheck should not be #8 HE SUCKS the fights he wins dont lead anywhere and the fights that would help him he loses yet hes #8 hmmm?
by warhuerta on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well put sir!
wholesale changes in the way the rankings are calculated will be implemented STAT!
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That a hard point
considering that the fights so often…or at least put in a bunch of fights in short order over the holiday period.
The one that would have done the most for his career (Alves) he took on short notice as a replacement. The other two were against questionable opposition (at least in terms of what they didn for Kos’ career progress) and both provided career highlight knockouts…
Come to think of it, I think Kos might possibly just fighting for money right now while the title remains around the waist of someone he knows he can’t beat.
by Razreshat on Jun 25, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes must be sitting on a crazy stockpile of momentum to still be at #5.
Because I don’t really see him beating any of the 5 or so spots below him.
Come to think of it, Karo is due for a significant drop too.
by Razreshat on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Karo's already dropped a lot
since his suspension and he’ll continue to drop until his comeback.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hardly a Hughes fan, but his only losses in the last five years are against the top two ranked fighters in the division while his only other loss in the last eight years came against Penn.
by rabrown on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
June 2009 Welterweight Rankings
I don’t see any reason why, based on the past three years or so, that Frank Trigg should be ranked amongst the Welterweights. I suspect those who included him are doing so because he’s a name they recognize who has been in the news a bit of late with his return to the UFC. But, he’s just barely on the list, so no big deal.
Hughes seems high to me, considering he beaten a Lightweight who, admittedly, is a great fighter, but not ranked at Welterweight, and Matt Serra (only ranked 18) in the past three years. Actually, he beat Chris Lytle (#22) as well. Sure, Hughes is without question the greatest Welterweight in history, but if we’re talking about current rankings, top 5 overall is awfully generous.
Brad Blackburn is being sorely overlooked. My understanding is that Edgar Garcia should have (did) won his fight with Blackburn, but poor judging aside, Blackburn beat Jay Hieron amongst others atop the IFL Welterweight division during that organization’s (brief) run. Maybe that’s the problem, we’re talking about IFL. Of course, if IFL victories don’t count for much in 2009, what’s Jay Hieron doing ranked at all? I don’t see Jason High anywhere in the mix (yet, but that will likely change shortly).
I have other issues, but I’ve critiqued the decisions of those included in the ranking process enough for now, I think.
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by Brett Jones on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trigg is a ranked middleweight
and some sites have already moved him into their welters since that’s where he’ll be fighting going forward.
The changes in weight class is the one thing the consensus rankings really haven’t figured out how to account for.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were the matchmaker......
Diaz v Condit
Let’s see who the real deal is.
by MusicCityBeatdown on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Nick Diaz would put a beating on Condit
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too! But I think there styles would match up for a good fight! Both guys are long and have a good range game.
by MusicCityBeatdown on Jun 25, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
Condit’s certainly not going to layNpray Nick like so many others have.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who hasn't
Sean Sherk, Joe Riggs, Diego Sanchez and Karo Parisyan all beat Nick by decision largely based on their having dominant position over him for most of the fight.
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by Kid Nate on Jun 25, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diego and Karo certainly weren’t LNP fights. Diego was dominant in GNP, and Karo-Diaz was a great transitional grappling fight. Did Sherk even get a TD against Diaz? That fight was nearly all standup. I don’t recall the Riggs fight, so that could be the only one of the 3 that was LNP.
by Hardcharger on Jun 25, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take that bet.
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by Rundownloser on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Condit would take Diaz out, he’d look worse than he did when he fought Noons Carlos has dangerous stand up with punches, knees, elbows and a great ground game to match he is so underated it’s crazy.
by Raker on Jun 25, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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