Lyoto Machida, Randy Couture, Fedor Emelianenko All Possible for EA Sports MMA Video Game
by Kid Nate on Jun 23, 2009 8:51 AM EDT
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Gamasutra reports:
"We are looking obviously at every fighter that we can, that we feel is applicable from a quality level and then analyzing their image rights, and if they're available and we want them -- then we'll get them. If they're not then we'll move on to the next fighter."
When asked about fighters such as UFC star Lyoto Machida, Moore added: "Machida? A great fighter. There's plenty of great fighters that have their image rights, and we'll start announcing fighters pretty soon."
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A tour schedule around E3 indicated that notable Russian fighter Fedor Emelianenko was taking place in a photoshoot for the EA title, alongside colleague Gegard Mousasi.
In addition, famous ex-UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia recently said in a radio interview that both he and notable former UFC star Randy Couture have signed up for the Electronic Arts game. None of these signings have yet been confirmed by Electronic Arts.
I wonder if they're still interested in Tim Sylvia. Hope Monte Cox didn't seal the deal with one of his famous handshakes.
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Man I don't think this video game will sell
I think getting Lyoto is a pipe dream. Casual fans and gamers won’t want to buy this because it isn’t the UFC. How many of them have heard of mousasi? They could stock up with strikeforce fighters, but I still doubt it would sell..
Plus, if I was a random gamer, that logo wouldn’t standout compared to other EA games, what more if you compare it to other best selling games.
It’s a game that I would really want to play, especially if they have a real roster, but I really doubt the gaming public would give a damn about this.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 22, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But to get the casuals attention,
They should get those UFC fighters that haven’t signed their video game rights, like maybe randy and kimbo. And I think they should work on signing Tito and frank shamrock, and the other guys that fought in CBS. Of course they should get fedor too.
If they build up a decent roster, hardcore fans would really be interested in getting it.
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 22, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dana will put pressure on any UFC fighter to not sign with this game and he will win.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Jun 22, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me and my GF will each be buying a copy.
She’s says Fedor’s her other boyfriend _
It’s ok though, I <3 Gina, and she hates her.
by EnsignFrog on Jun 22, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how fedor would be classified as "hot" by the ladies..
Great fighter sure, great looking body? Nope. Appealing personality and sense of humor? Nope.
He could probably kill me in 5 seconds or less, but does that make him look hot? I dont know. Haha. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the mystery
Women love a “mysterious” guy, the one who keeps to himself seemingly playing hard to get, that is Fedor in a nutshell.
Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot
by ufc4 on Jun 22, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be.. Could be..
Thanks for giving your insight as to why you find him hot. :P
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 22, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well that's why your old lady finds me attractive
It’s just a theory.
:P
Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot
by ufc4 on Jun 22, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way in HELL Dana lets this happen
I don’t care how much EA offers him, Dana will offer twice that to keep his undefeated LHW champ out of that game.
Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot
by ufc4 on Jun 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lyoto’s videogame image is locked up perpetually in the UFC series. He will also probably make waaaaaaay more money with the UFC game.
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 22, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First part is probably correct. Second part? I’m not sure the fighters get any compensation from the game.
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
by Day Man on Jun 22, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First part will render the second part academic no?
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 22, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no? You think Nakamura or Werdum got paid for their image?
by gunranger on Jun 22, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did if their contract said they would.
by subo on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UFC’s gaming license didn’t really state that their fighters would get really paid.
Actually, EA Sports is known to pay much better than anyone else in the industry.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read the contract a year ago, they really don’t. MMAPayout did a special on the contrac and many managers said it was a slave contract, which is why many fighters were against sighing it. Remember, AKA? Gracie Fighter? A few more as well…
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also This
The way the contract reads to this non-lawyer’s eye indicates that those under current Zuffa contract with the above clause would be exclusive to the THQ game, even if they do not appear in the game. Those rights only seem to last the term of the contract, though, which is why there was the necessity to threaten AKA and other camps with expulsion form the UFC in order to obtain the lifetime exclusive rights. This also explains why those like Tim Sylvia, Andre Arlovski, and Tito Ortiz would now be able to sign possibly with the EA MMA game.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense, but Lyoto Machida is still under contract. How on EARTH does he get in this game?
by subo on Jun 23, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IDK. First time I have heard his name come up.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think dana white will not make machida appear on a game without the ufc logo, let’s remember that THQ has untill 2010(i think or 2011) for the ufc contract, and it depends on the situation in the future, but along the way I’m happy that another mma game is being made, becasue it will draw competition between the makers. thus in the end the consumer/gamer/fan still wins..
by awesome21 on Jun 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, isn't this why Jon Fitch got cut?
Isn’t Machida forever associated with the UFC brand as far as video games go?
If so, then that headline is quite off.
by subo on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look to the round 5 collectibles for the fighters who still have their image rights.
by GeeDub on Jun 22, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some might have their image rights for toys but not for video games. I’m pretty sure there were two separate contracts for those rights.
by who me on Jun 22, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the point though, not every UFC fighter negotiated away their toy and video game contracts, so it will be interesting to see who kept theirs.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought there was just 1 “Marketing Rights Agreement” as details here:
http://mmafa.tv/blog/2008/06/billion-dollar-ufc-enters-merchandising-in-big-way-good-deal-for-fighters/
It seems all encompassing but thats all Im basing it on as I hadnt heard anything about multiple contracts.
by GeeDub on Jun 23, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That agreement was different than the shitty video games rights agreement Zuffa was pushing guys to sign, it’s two different agreements although any guy who signed the optional marketing rights agreement probably dealt away video game rights too.
by who me on Jun 23, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Machida? A great fighter. There’s plenty of great fighters that have their image rights, and we’ll start announcing fighters pretty soon.”
How did you go from Machida is a great fighter to he’s possible for the EA game? That’s quite a leap.
by cyph on Jun 22, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Tim Sylvia is in the game then how can it fail :D
by who me on Jun 22, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray Mercer could also be in it.
Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot
by ufc4 on Jun 22, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point he might as well be in it too.
by who me on Jun 23, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im really excited about this game… i have not played Undisputed yet.. but if EA can do as good of a job in this game as they have with the Fight Night series, its gonna be awesome.
by espino on Jun 22, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You Can Already Pre-Order EA Sports MMA On Amazon!
http://www.amazon.com/EA-Sports-MMA-Playstation-3/dp/B002BS61JS
Fighters Rumored:
Fedor
Josh Barnett
Randy Couture
Frank Trigg
Gegard Mousasi
Frank Shamrock
Tim Sylvia
Gina Carano (possibly)
Cyborg (possibly)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus, THQ’s CAF and Career mode need some SERIOUS work. EA can really capitalize here.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to who? Please name one Sports Franchise that EA has dropped a ton of money in and failed? Also do names really make a great video game compared to actual game play and graphics? MMA isn’t the NFL where EA can make an entire league full of players, the same applies for THQ and Undisputed, not all best fighters are in that game either. EA sees where the future of MMA is going and who else better to create that game as a franchise while THQ will be going out of business.
by BSurely on Jun 23, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe an MMA game will succeed without the UFC license – and if it does, the UFC game’s numbers will dwarf those of the non-UFC game.
The UFC game’s amazing popularity has pretty much saved THQ until next year – you know, when the new and improved UFC game comes out.
by subo on Jun 23, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unlike fan boy wars, there is enough room for two MMA games to be successful and then the best will win out in the long run.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replace ‘games’ with ‘organizations’ and you’re still wrong.
Whichever game has the license will reign supreme.
by subo on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, that license that will be up for grabs in a couple of years.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I grant the possibility that EA gets the license – I believe they’ve already said they wanted it – when it’s up for renewal.
by subo on Jun 23, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Competition pushes game developers to make better games. Simple as that.
Subo+Dana White = <3
by ryanwk628 on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
let’s get rid of that tribal and put fedor on there and it will sell….
by kovy on Jun 23, 2009 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Catch EA Sports Heavily Advertising During TUF FInale?
Did anyone else notice the curious appearance of the EA Sports: Fight Night Round 4 banner on the Octagon mat during the latest TUF Finale?
It’s really a no-brainer from EA’s perspective, because they’re trying to tap into that 18-34 year-old demo which is bound to have some cross-over appeal with boxing – especially where video games are concerned.
However, it seems quite out of character for the UFC to allow any sort of advertisement or promotion for a competitor over one of their own broadcasts. EA Sports’ Fight Night Round 4 is going to compete directly against UFC Undisputed 2009 in sales and likely also as fighting game of the year.
Surely, EA must have provided some sort of significant incentive for the UFC to agree with the ad (or maybe there’s an issue with SpikeTV that forced the UFC’s hand), but if I’m one of the boys over at THQ, I’m probably a little annoyed right now.
Interesting.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 22, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s either that or they welcome another game as they feel completely and utterly non-threatened by it.
by subo on Jun 23, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure THQ wouldn’t feel that way.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is their game though, and EA is their competitor.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t Lyoto already in the UFC game so that would leave him out, plus i’d be surprised to see Randy in any game but Undisputed 2010 considering how things ended up for him after his little retirement stunt. An MMA without the UFC brand to me has fail written all over it, it’s been proven that it’s the brand that makes and breaks fighter without it they are SOL.
by Raker on Jun 23, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i saw fight night round 4 have it where u can put your face on the character. have custom music when u walk out entrances custom everything about your character if they add that to the MMA game ill buy it for that alone. cause every fighter i create in UFC undipsputded looks pretty much the fucking same
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by Pitbull on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well since basically the whole roster out of the UFC i would expect UFC to be Against the game since people are going to wonder where the fuck these fighters come from lol
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by Pitbull on Jun 23, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And this is exactly why it’s important to not sign your image rights away for infinity and beyond. You never know what opportunities will pop up right around the corner.
by a tommy point on Jun 23, 2009 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tim Sylvia will be the Jigglypuff of the franchise.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jun 23, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god...
Imagines Tim sing lullaby
by EnsignFrog on Jun 23, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t that be Tim/AA 3?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jun 23, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone think...
That perhaps EA is trying to get an established MMA platform out there when the UFC license is up for grabs?
by EnsignFrog on Jun 23, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Though I should add...
I don’t think it will work this way. I see UFC sticking with THQ
by EnsignFrog on Jun 23, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw ea signing UFC way back. THQ will not stay afloat for the entire contract. they are living off of the UFC at the moment it got them out the red. EA is a juggernaut of gaming UFC would be just another title to them. which again might be why UFC went with THQ. thq made the ufc there baby. i doubt ea would give a fuck
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by Pitbull on Jun 23, 2009 2:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
What one title can do for a company. Just look at Square Enix and Final Fantasy.
by EnsignFrog on Jun 23, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean if one title could save you it would be the UFC so i agree with ya
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
by Pitbull on Jun 23, 2009 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Final Fantasy, my favorite game series of all time, and the best name fail of all time. That and the Chevy Nova.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 23, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The worst name fail ever is Rambo: First Blood - Part II
And I hate FF & all JRPGs – all you do is move the characters from plot point to plot point, pausing to fiddle with more databases than MS Access. Fun shouldn’t be work!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Jun 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JRPG’s are the ultimate fail.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You both are dead to me.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 23, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing wrong with the title Rambo: First Blood – Part II.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jun 23, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THQ just opened a massive studio in Texas, so clearly they think they’ll be around for awhile.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Don't Think So...
I heard Texas was giving HUGE incentives for game developers, businesses, and studios to open up over there to bring in business into the state. Problem is, no one wants to live in Northern Texas. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The studio is in Austin.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/01/23/texas-guv-wants-more-incentives-game-developers
Last year the governor’s office estimated there were nearly 100 game and software development companies in Texas. Many companies are based in the Austin area.
Governor Perry has said he wants to make the state the leader in the industry. He has vowed to push lawmakers this session to increase incentives to lure more game makers here.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
US news and world report named Austin, Texas one of the ten best places to live in the US.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/business/real-estate/2009/06/08/best-places-to-live-2009.html
as did msnbc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25064613/?pg=1#BESTUScities_science
by who me on Jun 23, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately, based on the Youtube & CBS numbers,
If Kimbo has success in the upcoming season of TUF, then whichever game he’s in will probably do better.
Fedor + Kimbo = something for hardcores, something for casual gamers.
Kimbo + UFC = 20-30% sales boost
(Any ideas on who has his game rights?)
The UFC license can definitely be the deal sealer, but there’s alot to be said about EA’s marketing division, and the fact that they have it going to Tiburon, where those guys have been begging to make an MMA game for a few years now.
THQ’s product was barely more than beta, and they charged alot of people to test it for them, alot of whom are not happy, myself included. The game is sorely lacking in 4 key areas (imo)
1. Real time physics
2. Create-a-fighter
3. Career mode
4. Online play
I don’t know if I see next years numbers matching this years, even w/ Kimbo, Carwin, Guida, etc. alot of us feel burned by THQ, and to be honest, I’m not sure they will last through 2010, let alone be around for 2011 when the contract’s up.
If EA can come in with a strong, real-time dynamic physics engine, functioning online play, enough good signings and even 80% of the visuals, collision detection and presentation of the latest Fight Night, then through word-of-mouth and EA’s hype machine, they have a chance to contend with THQ.
And I can imagine most non UFC fighters jumping at the chance to be in EA’s game and get all that extra exposure. And there are so many good ones! I’m excited!
Damn, sorry fellas didn’t mean to be so long winded!
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jun 23, 2009 4:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do you actually think kimbo and fedor would outsell the UFC brand?
casual fans know kimbo, a few casuals know fedor.. But do the casual and hardcore gamers know either? maybe a few of them, sure.. But i guarantee you they know the UFC..
it’s like saying you think that a game with david beckham would outsell a FIFA game.. even if the beckham game had a slightly better gaming engine, it would still lose cause they are going against FIFA..
I’m not saying that i wouldnt like a game with strikeforce,affliction, and a couple of UFC fighters, and a better engine.. Cause i would buy that.. It’s just that i don’t think majority of the gaming public would be interested in the “MMA” game as opposed to the UFC game..
by Anton Tabuena on Jun 23, 2009 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't.
Weo man, you gotta read the rest of the post! ;)
I’m saying that THQ’s bad business practices have the ability to diminish the UFC brand in regards to video games, and that alot of us won’t be buying THQ’s product next year because of it.
I’m not much of a soccer fan (not at all actually), but I don’t think FIFA is the #1 soccer game, I believe it’s Winning Eleven soccer, and it got to be that way based on gameplay.
Like I said above, they basically charged us $70 to be beta testers. I don’t want to be a beta tester. I, and many others like me feel absolutely taken advantage of, and the fact that THQ is ignoring it’s customers in regards to these issues makes me/us want to boycott THQ til their gone. And the post below by Idglass sums THQ’s history up pretty nicely.
Trust me, I desperately wanted this game to be good and successful, but it’s just not deserving. The fact that everyone in the game moves alike, strikes alike, subs alike, etc. make it fun for a couple weeks, but then that’s it! It would have massive replayability if online wasn’t such a drag, but it is, and it doesn’t look like it’s going to be fixed.
Basically what I’m saying is, all the people…sorry, MOST of the people I’ve talked to about this game have said they will never buy another THQ product again, and are dying to see what EA can do with MMA. If they can do all the things I posted above, they have a very good chance of cornering the market, UFC license or not. But I agree somewhat with what you’re saying…It’s gonna be hard as hell to get the casuals on board with a non-UFC MMA game, but it’s not impossible. Excellent gameplay goes a long way, as does word-of-mouth and mass marketing. And you add Kimbo & Fedor to the mix and you get a huge boost. They definitely won’t be the sole reason either game does well, but it will give whoever has them an advantage over the other.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jun 23, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you beta tested anything before? I mean other than a stress test.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 23, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch! Do I come off as stressed out? I mean, this game has stressed me out, but I thought I was getting over it ….Guess I’m still bummed, and it’s still showing. Damn!
And no, I’ve never beta tested, but I have two friends who work in the industry, and that’s how they described it when we discussed all the problems in the game. From what they tell me, it absolutely sucks being a beta tester, which is why I said I didn’t want to be one, and sure as hell didn’t want to be charged to do the job.
I just find it unreasonable that a game with so much development time feels half finished, and I say that as someone who’s been playing video games since I’m six. I know when a game feels good (and finished), and for all the hype, this one just doesn’t live up to it. (imo)
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Jun 24, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for those looking for big improvements in the next undisputed i wouldn’t hold my breath thq is known for lil improvement while still lacking in same areas over and over and sometimes even taking away things that where good look at there wwe smackdown franchise
by ldglass on Jun 23, 2009 4:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully EA can put some money together and sign Ray Mercer…..personally, I think there aren’t enough stars for the game, but we shall see…
by mjw2e on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
EA always makes a great product. After the game comes out the UFC will wish they used them instead of THQ.
by jks9202 on Jun 23, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or once the game flops EA will just wait and make a huge money grab for the UFC’s game rights and Zuffa will continue laughing all the way to the bank as they have the past few years.
by Raker on Jun 23, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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