Vitor Belfort vs. Jorge Santiago at Affliction III
by Scott Haber on Jun 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT
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Promoted to the front page from the FanPosts by Luke Thomas.
First Gegard Mousasi got a new opponent for Affliction III in Renato Sobral; now the man he was originally scheduled to face, Vitor Belfort, has a new matchup as well: he'll take on fellow UFC veteran and highly-ranked middleweight Jorge Santiago in a 185-lb contest at the August 1st event, according to MMA Weekly:
Middleweight Vitor Belfort will take on Jorge Santiago at Affliction 3: "Trilogy" on Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif.
MMAWeekly.com confirmed the match-up through sources close to the fight. It is expected to be on the event's main card.
After a disputed with Mousasi about weight-classes for their rumored fight, Belfort was adamant that he wanted to remain at 185 lbs, leaving Mousasi to pursue other avenues. Now Belfort will face an equally tough challenge in his fellow countryman who's on a red-hot nine-fight winning streak.
Santiago (21-7) is a BJJ black-belt at American Top Team who was released from his UFC contract in 2006 following back-to-back knockout losses at the hands of Chris Leben and Alan Belcher. Since that time, Santiago has righted the ship in a big way, going 9-0 with all wins coming via stoppage and with a wide variety of winning methods as well (including heel hook, arm-triangle, armbar, and RNC submissions, and flying knee and body shot KOs). Among those wins, Santiago won a single-night tournament on a Strikeforce card, submitted veteran Jeremy Horn, stopped UFC legend Andrei Semenov with strikes, and most recently, submitted top-ranked Kazuo Misaki in the fifth round of bout that determined Sengoku's middleweight grand-prix champion.
Although he has shown a questionable chin in the past, which could be a huge vulnerability against the heavy-handed Belfort, Santiago is just as dangerous on the ground as he is on the feet, and his well-rounded arsenal might prove to be a difficult challenge for Vitor.
The current rumored Affliction III: Trilogy card includes:
MAIN EVENT: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett
Tim Sylvia vs. Paul Buentello
Gegard Mousasi vs. Renato Sobral
Vitor Belfort vs. Jorge Santiago
Jay Hieron vs. Paul Daley
Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon
Ben Rothwell vs. TBA
Mark Hominick vs. TBA
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Belfort v. Santiago
Now, that’s a fight.
It’d be cool if it had been booked for a legitimate MMA organization, though.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Jun 2, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how them fighting for Affliction makes it any less of a fight. It would be nice to have this be made public because for sure it will be interesting one way or another. The UFC has plenty of stars to promote.
by Ahhhoki on Jun 2, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tree…forest…
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 2, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a crazy submission is pulled off in a Bellator event, which is shown on ESPN Deportes ESPANOL, will the world see it? =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? You mean they are not fighting legitimate MMA?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the last affliction show. Its like a dead end fight. They are not fighting for a belt or towards a belt. Although it is a great fight.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, this fight will not impact their rankings because it is taking place (in what you assumre) is Affliction’s last show, although they just mentioned that it won’t be their last show? Not only that, Santiago is the current Sengoku MW Champ. He doesn’t need a WAMMA or UFC belt.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say it wouldn’t impact the rankings. Just that they are not progressing toward anything meaningful. Its still a great fight worth having and seeing. You are very defensive.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any winning fight is meaningful. You claim it’s Affliction’s last show (which it is not, as you will discover in time) and they are not fighting towards a title therefore this fight is a dead end. I just fail to see how any fight that falls under “Fighter A vs. Fighter B for Promotion X under Unified Rules” are different from one another.
by Ahhhoki on Jun 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry I presented myself in such a way, but you have to understand this.
I am offended at the fact that this is a great fight and some are saying that it wont mean the same because it is not for a legitimate MMA org. Affliction puts on great fights and Santiago is the Sengoku MW champ. It doesn’t need to lead anywhere. It is a champion fighting another top fighter.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its all good Supremacy……….Rather than get worked up (as I often do)……..this is the response I try to have:
by GeeDub on Jun 2, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
That gif is awesome.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 2, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Dana White dosent endorse it, it dosent count right?
by ryanwk628 on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn. Somebody called this on another thread. :P
by Ahhhoki on Jun 2, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wohoo! I Guessed On This One
And it is EXACTLY what Affliction did, great job.
Top 15 MW going at it and one of the best match ups Affliction could have put together.
Great job!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rumored Affliction 3
MAIN EVENT: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Josh Barnett
Tim Sylvia vs. Paul Buentello
Gegard Mousasi vs. Renato Sobral
Vitor Belfort vs. Jorge Santiago
Jay Hieron vs. Paul Daley
Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon
Ben Rothwell vs. Yvel/Rizzo Winner
Mark Hominick vs. (Din Thomas Most Likely)
Lil Nog vs TBA
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So conflicted...
Sexyama and Fedor.
Oh dear.
by a tommy point on Jun 2, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beyond that
Mir/Lesnar >>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia/Buentello
Hendo/Bisping >>>>>>>>>>> Mousasi/Sobral
GSP/Alves >>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of the card
by subo on Jun 3, 2009 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Top 10...
Creator of the FightMatrix rating system.
by JCS_FM on Jun 2, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I wasn’t sure where Vitor is ranked at the moment. I know Santiago is top 10.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the best comeback wins of the year.
by Tonley on Jun 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sick, sick card. Kudos, Affliction.
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
by Beer Monster on Jun 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was just about to post the same thing.
Affliction may be a short lived craze, but damn they have brought us some great fights. Hope they stick around for a long time.
by DirtyML on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. People can hate on how they run their business, but purely as a fight fan, how can you complain about the fights they’ve promoted?
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
by Beer Monster on Jun 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is one purdy card. Hopefully it gets put on pay-per-view down here again. Had to watch a shitty stream last time that screwed the pooch for the first minute of AA and Fedor.
I’ll take Belfort via KO early.
by SamCupitt on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if this card was under the UFC banner… LOL
by mmalogic on Jun 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t be possible. It would be one or two good main events and then a bunch of TUF’ers that follow.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as those tuf’ers were from season one or five, then it would be a great card.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha…yeah. I just made that comment specially for mmalogic, don’t take it the wrong way.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
close your eyes and imagine this card as a UFC card and it will look just like any other random UFC event… actually closer to a UK event.
The only reason the card looks good is because its not put on under the UFC.
Lets compare the fights:
Fedor vs Barnett compared to:
GSP vs BJ2, GSP vs Alves, Machida vs Rashad, Brock vs Mir, Randy vs Nog, Anderson vs Henderson, etc…
Once the betting lines come out you’ll see the fights above are more competitive.
Sylvia vs Buantello (both ufc washouts) compared to:
forrest vs anderson, carwin vs gonzaga, cain vs kongo, damian maia vs nate, etc…
Mousasi vs Sobral (an up and comer fighting a UFC washout) compared to:
Henderson vs bisping, lyoto vs tito, Damian Maia vs Chael sonnen, wand vs rampage, etc…
vitor vs santiago (both ufc washouts) compared to:
dennis kang vs belcher, akiyama vs belcher, crocop vs alturk, etc…
The rest is not even worth my time as they are useless.
Its a good card, its an illusion to think is something unique.
What is a unique is an org outside of the UFC putting it on.
With that said I would like to sincerely wish that you enjoy their last show :)
by mmalogic on Jun 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a good card, but you are comparing it to major cards. I agree that the UFC puts on great show consistently, but there are a few shows that I would say disappointed me. 78, I went to it live and thought the card was weak. It was a PPV and I paid a lot to go to it live on the east coast. This affliction card is better then that UFC card. And it is a factor to do it all without the UFC brand behind it. It’s impressive. not smart business, but impressive.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry about it, he works for the UFC so he has to say stuff like that.
This affliction card is better then that UFC card. And it is a factor to do it all without the UFC brand behind it. It’s impressive.
Agreed.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kimbo on Tuf makes more impact in the Marketplace than this entire card put together. LOL
by mmalogic on Jun 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For today, like anything Kimbo, and then fades into the dark shadows of tomorrow.
The real loser is the WEC, since no one will pay any attention to it now.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GSP vs BJ2 was not competitive
Machida vs Rashad was not competitive
Anderson vs Henderson was not competitive
by fuzzy wuzzy on Jun 2, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You conveniently cut out the fact that its not smart business.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats already a given. Who doesn’t mention that about Affliction in the first place?
I am a fan of MMA fights, so I will let them deal with their business practices.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But better business means more fights and more cards and more fighters having a job and its good long term for the fans. I would rather them stay small, put on decent fights and survive, but they don’t see it that way.
by szucconi on Jun 2, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats Strikeforce’s job. Affliction puts on big fights, like NYE events, so I will take it for now.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will have some announcements coming up and something that will prove to their fans that they will be around beyond Affliction 3, so we will see.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Belfort vs. Santiago better than anything it’s being compared to with the possible exception of Akiyama’s scheduled debut. Would love to see Santiago back in UFC, though I don’t know how likely that is.
by An Old Friend on Jun 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closer to a UK event? They passing out the quality weed at Zuffa HQ now, eh?
The fact that the best fighter in the world is headlining the card instantly trumps whatever flotsam and jetsam the UFC ships across the pond twice a year. That’s to say nothing of the other top 10 fighters littered throughout the rest of the card.
by a tommy point on Jun 2, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am very impressed you used jetsam and flotsam in the same sentence.
You have earned the award: Modern Day Buccaneer!
by DirtyML on Jun 2, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flotsam is floating garbage usually left after a wreck, and jetsam is jettisoned floating garbage, usually from passing boats. Or, the band typically associated with bassist Jason Newsted before he left to join Metallica, succeeding original Metallica bassist Cliff Burton after his death in a tragic bus accident.
by bubbafat on Jun 2, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kewl, thanks. i’m now gonna go use my new found knowledge to impress chicks.
by fuzzy wuzzy on Jun 2, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock K1 Heroes washout
Lyoto Jungle Fight washout
Anderson Pride washout
GSP UFC washout
BJ UFC washout
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 2, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brock and Machida lack the necessary quality for being a washout from a promotion, that of losing there.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just saying, that labeling fighters like that is completely unnecessary and only weakens one’s point of view.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Nobody says Rampage and Anderson Silva are HUGE Pride washouts.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your post seems to implies that anyone that is cut by the UFC is not going to make as compelling a fight as a guy that is currently in the UFC.
It also implies that close betting lines also imply competitive and more compelling fights.
I sort of thought that Babalu was cut by the UFC by his extended choke out of Heath or some other guy? Any person could justify any statement by throwing out shaky logic. I missed the first show, but I enjoyed the poop out of their second, and it looks to me like they’re doing it again for their third.
by Dooda on Jun 2, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, god forbid they make money so they can stay in business long enough to put on more than 3 shows.
by ufc4 on Jun 2, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like it would be pretty hard to come up with a better non-UFC card in America.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this for the Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Title?
Gegard Mousasi vs. Renato Sobral
by Cableguy on Jun 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would guess that Affliction is reluctant to promote another company’s belt.
by Ahhhoki on Jun 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
During ring announcements of the last event they recognized Babalu as the Strikeforce champ.
by bignerd on Jun 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santiago is Sengoku MW Champ.
Babalu is Affliction LHW Champ.
Fedor PRIDE and WAMMA Champ.
Barnett Former UFC Champ.
Sylvia Former UFC Champ.
Hieron IFL WW Champ.
Horedecki Former IFL LW Champ.
Paul Buentello Former Strikeforce HW Champ.
Mousasi Former DREAM MW Champ.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Belfort Former UFC LHW Champ.
etc…
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone take that reign seriously? I mean, I like the Belfort-Santiago match either way, but Belfort probably shouldn’t have been awarded that title.
by An Old Friend on Jun 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just throwing it out there, since it happened.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it’s like if UFC (or whoever) signed TK and people lauded him as the man who beat Fedor. It’s true, and it’s in the (virtual) record books, but only a rube would be impressed by these claims.
by An Old Friend on Jun 2, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, sir, am not a rube, but I will defend, to the death,your right to say it. Seriously though, if I met Kohsaka, I’m not ashamed to say I’d be impressed by the only guy to have recorded an official MMA victory over the best fighter on the planet.
by bubbafat on Jun 2, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arona.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. I mean, I’d be happy to meet TK based on the rest of his resume as well—no disrespect to the guy.
by An Old Friend on Jun 2, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIX:
Babalu Strikeforce LHW Champ.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to break the news to you Supremacy
But the IFL and PRIDE no longer exist, therefore they have no current champions.
by ufc4 on Jun 2, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will always be the PRIDE HW Champion.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 3, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woohoo!!! great fight!!
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
by ekc on Jun 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope Sylvia gets approved..
After the reaming he’ll receive from Mercer.
Creator of the FightMatrix rating system.
by JCS_FM on Jun 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belfort "ready for the battle" against Santiago:
"I think it’s gonna be a good fight. I’m training hard, I’ll go for the knockout, the submission, I’m going to do my best there. The result is there, depends on what we’ll do", analyzed Vitor.
"I’m happy, because it shows that Brazil is the biggest fighter exporter, but, on the other hand, I’m sad, but it’s ok, we’re professional. He’s a top athlete, from a good team".
by Nick Thomas on Jun 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This picture makes me smile.
Yes.
by a tommy point on Jun 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wonder if what he said is true.
Brazil has a very large population compared to Japan so they probably have more fighters than them, but I have a hard time believing there is more Brazilian fighters than American.
by DirtyML on Jun 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is turning into a really cool card. Its too band that Affliction is probably going to vanish into a puff of smoke after this.
Keep firing Assholes!
This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.
by Ubernoober on Jun 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how people are saying this, but they have said otherwise.
Enjoy card now, worry about that later. =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Honestly, canceling their second show and then having a different one much later really hurt Afflictions credibility. I think their business practices are stupid as hell, but if they had delivered on that second card, then I would not automatically doubt every single thing they say.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One card postponed = failed credibility?
It would have been worse if they went ahead with the card and tanked miserably without Fedor on it. That was one of the “smart” decisions they have made so far.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t postponed, it was scrapped. So far they have delivered on 66% of their promised cards. That is not something to be proud of.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think, at worst, Affliction will do no more stand alone shows and only co-promote or work out some deal to get their gear back in the UFC. probably the former.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 2, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who is andrei arlovski going to fight? he has one fight left on his affliction contract and it would be pretty silly of affliction to not utilize that for a seemingly make or break show.
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jun 2, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arlovski is fighting Brett Rogers in Strikeforce.
by a tommy point on Jun 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are still about 2 matchups that are yet to be announced by Affliction.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would Arlovski fight? There isn’t really room on top of that card for another big name.
by bignerd on Jun 2, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his Strikeforce is really like an Affliction fight.
Affliction will promote their 3rd event during the Showtime Strikeforce event.
Because of that, I don’t think he will fight on the 3rd card.
They still have Lil Nog, Arona, etc to use.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually he is loan from affliction for the strikeforce fight against rogers. affliction still owes him one more fight. i can’t imagine them not wanting to utilize his star power. june 6th to aug. 1st is a long time. not to mention that he took the rogers fight on like 3 weeks notice. even if he does box on june 27th, there will be plenty of time. maybe overeem? strikeforce said this arlovski loan was part of a deal that “made sense for both parties”
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jun 2, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, its a loan. But I was just talking about fiscal sense for the 3rd card, since he demands a high pay and Affliction is trying to keep that under control this time.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t they have to pay him that money even if he doesn’t fight?
by FiatJustitiaRuatCaelum on Jun 2, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends what his contract says. If they are co-promoting the fight, that may satisfy his clause that he has to fight within a certain amount of time, and they can still use him for another event after their 3rd.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In an interivew with Loretta Hunt Arlovski says that the Rogers fight will be his last fight for Affliction. Its actually quite funny. Hunt asks him if it will be his last affliction fight and he says (paraphrasing) “I have to be professional and respectfully decline the question…BUT……yes, it will be my last fight for Affliction.” hehe
Another notable quote from the interview, regarding Fedor: “I will begin my road to chase him again and Im gonna chase him everywhere til Im gonna have rematch because Im still sure that I can beat him.”
Anyways, re: his contract, I imagine Afflictions gonna pay him and let him fight for Strikeforce in return for some serious Affliction 3 adverstising during their broadcast.
by GeeDub on Jun 2, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct!
=)
We will see some Affliction promos and advertising, as well as Fedor.
Fedor will make an awesome appearance with Mousasi, so there should be some really good stuff coming out this week.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they have to pay him, because if his contract said anything different it would already be over as his fight with Elite would have counted and therefore his fight with Fedor would have been #3.
by ufc4 on Jun 2, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GeeDub already got the info through Loretta Hunt article above.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 3, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem is planning on fighting on August event, so maybe if Arlovski wins, he would take on Overeem on their August card, which it may be looking like a CBS card for Strikeforce.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like a great card. I’m glad it didn’t try to compete with UFC 100 otherwise I would have been very torn.
by Zack Gobie on Jun 2, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good fight.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Jun 2, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I cannot wait for this card!!! Affliction comes through again!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, growing up as a child Kimbo Slice was never given any bread with his meals. This is why he insists people give him his bread."
by xFenixKnightx on Jun 2, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will watch the event of course.
But I can’t say I am overly hyped. Barnett is more over-rated than Rashad was before his loss.
Gegard vs Babalu will be the only fight I would be pumped for.
The 12 year old vs Dan Lauzon could be interesting.
I understand your over excitement for all non Zuffa things. But if I had raved like this over any UFC card (with the same level of talent) you would have shit on any and every post I would make.
I would NEVER have asked any promoter to put on Paul vs Timmeh but I love MMA. Instead of trying to make these post about “Affliction > Zuffa ..best card ever”, just be informative.
You post a lot of very good information and opinions but I have to dig thru all the anti Zuffa shit to get to the points.
by Riney on Jun 2, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I think everyone got that…hahaha.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just Curious
This is not my fanpost, but, what anti-zuffa crap did I post.
I am actually looking forward to UFC 99. Looks very good from top to bottom.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, the Anti-Zuffa tends to surface in the comments after the initial wave of Anti-Afflction, Anti-Strikeforce.
by bignerd on Jun 2, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it’s human instinct when I am attacked left and right. I could make a post about Fedor Loves to Take Walks Along The Beach, and I would get accused of being Anti-UFC.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you are talking about my comments towards mmalogic...
Those I do for fun, and sometimes Subo cause its funny…hahaha.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people say this crap all the time, and I don’t see it Supremacy.
I guess promoting other shows=Zuffa hating.
I personally love the UFC and would say they are the top promotion by far right now. This doesnt mean i dont want SF or others to succeed, but there is a lot of great mma happening outside of Zuffa shows. That doesn’t mean those shows are better than the UFC, simply that, as a fan, I get to watch some great fights if I so choose.
I hate Affliction gear, but I will give them my money to see this very good card, just like I have the UFC for as long as I can remember. And I’m not wearing any stupid UFC hoodie either, lol!
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 2, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha!
I guess promoting other shows=Zuffa hating
Exactly!
Thanks for that.
ALL MMA is good, and Affliction is definitely putting out great shows. I’m going to watch UFC 99 and Affliction, Strikeforce, DREAM, etc and have a blast doing it.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did a survey of all his fanposts a while back in response to this, out of like 25 or so, one was a positive view for the UFC, and every other one that mentioned the UFC focused on negative aspects of it or possible problems they could have. Supremacy doesn’t hate the UFC, but he is very biased against it.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted things that are debatable, and worth discussing.
I never once bashed, said X>Zuffa, or Zuffa sucks. I think you guys are just a bit sensative. I typically post about things that others don’t, and guess what, most Zuffa topics are already covered by posters here like Scotty. Is Chris Nelson a Zuffa hater? No, he just posts more of the Japanese stories. If I ever find a Zuffa story that no one has posted, I will, although scotty23 is pretty darn fast poster.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even though I think you spin things (and who doesn’t to be honest), you definitely do go out there and get any information on non Zuffa promotions. I think you do provide valuable information a lot of times, but I will call things as I see them.
<_<
=)
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 2, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you reasearched MMASuPreMaCy?
what was that like?
by fuzzy wuzzy on Jun 2, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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