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MMA. Serious Business 6/19 Edition

MMA Training Is Serious Business

 

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"I told Kimbo he was an asshole", says Bas according to Fighters Only magazine:

"I misjudged him, he turned into a whole different person. I told him a few weeks ago, I had a sit down with him. I told him that he was an asshole and that I have zero respect (for him] and I cant train people that I have no respect for. Can't ever," Rutten told Fighters Only in a recent interview.

"He just turned into a differet guy, he didn't need to do the things that I told him to do. He wasn't going to go to the ground, you know? The day before the [Petruzelli] fight, I told him I wanted to go over heel hooks and escapes, and he said "Nah, its not going to go to the ground".

I said 'Ha, I like that attitude - but what if it does go to the ground?' but he said 'Its not going to go'. So I said OK, but don't let me tell you 'I told you so' if he snaps your fuckin' leg in half. He said 'I don't know if that's a good thing for you to be telling me mentally, before a fight'! I said 'I don't think its a good thing for you not to be doing what I tell you, before the fight"!

Maybe Kimbo has been doing his homework and been trolling around the UG lately.

 

More after the jump...

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MMA Rankings Is Serious Business

 

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Looks like all those people who do MMA Rankings are in for a little more competition.  It looks like we are in for a rankings war between different MMA media groups.  Associates of "Independent World MMA Rankings" include:

These voting panel members are, in alphabetical order: Zach Arnold (FightOpinion); Nicholas Bailey (MMA Ratings); Jared Barnes (Houston Chronicle); Jordan Breen (Sherdog); Jim Genia (Full Contact FighterMMA Memories, and MMA Journalist Blog); Jesse Holland (MMA Mania); Robert Joyner (MMA Payout); Todd Martin (CBS Sportsline); Zac Robinson (Sports by the Numbers MMA; Michael David Smith (AOL Fanhouse); Jonathan Snowden (Author of "Total MMA: Inside Ultimate Fighting"); Joshua Stein (MMA Opinion), Ivan Trembow (Freelance); and Dave Walsh (Total MMA).

 

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June 2009 Independent World MMA Rankings

Heavyweight Rankings (206 to 265 lbs.)

  1. Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 No Contest)
  2. Frank Mir (12-3)
  3. Josh Barnett (24-5)
  4. Brock Lesnar (3-1)
  5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1, 1 No Contest)
  6. Randy Couture (16-9)
  7. Alistair Overeem (29-11, 1 No Contest)
  8. Shane Carwin (11-0)
  9. Brett Rogers (10-0)
  10. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)

Light Heavyweight Rankings (186 to 205 lbs.)

  1. Lyoto Machida (15-0)
  2. Rashad Evans (13-1-1)
  3. Quinton Jackson (30-7)
  4. Forrest Griffin (16-5)
  5. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (18-3)
  6. Rich Franklin (25-4, 1 No Contest)
  7. Keith Jardine (14-5-1)
  8. Dan Henderson (24-7)
  9. Renato "Babalu" Sobral (32-8)
  10. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (17-3)

Middleweight Rankings (171 to 185 lbs.)

  1. Anderson Silva (24-4)
  2. Yushin Okami 23-4)
  3. Nathan Marquardt (28-8-2)
  4. Demian Maia (10-0)
  5. Dan Henderson (24-7)
  6. Jorge Santiago (21-7)
  7. Gegard Mousasi (25-2-1)
  8. Robbie Lawler (16-5, 1 No Contest)
  9. Vitor Belfort (18-8)
  10. Thales Leites (14-2)

Welterweight Rankings (156 to 170 lbs.)

  1. Georges St. Pierre (18-2)
  2. Thiago Alves (16-3)
  3. Jon Fitch (18-3, 1 No Contest)
  4. Jake Shields (23-4-1)
  5. Matt Hughes (43-7)
  6. Josh Koscheck (12-4)
  7. Martin Kampmann (15-2)
  8. Mike Swick (14-2)
  9. Carlos Condit (22-5)
  10. Paulo Thiago (11-0)

Lightweight Rankings (146 to 155 lbs.)

  1. B.J. Penn (13-5-1)
  2. Kenny Florian (11-3)
  3. Shinya Aoki (20-4, 1 No Contest)
  4. Eddie Alvarez (17-2)
  5. Joachim Hansen (19-7-1)
  6. Tatsuya Kawajiri (24-5-2)
  7. Frankie Edgar (10-1)
  8. Josh Thomson (16-2)
  9. Satoru Kitaoka (25-8-9)
  10. Gray Maynard (7-0, 1 No Contest)

Featherweight Rankings (136 to 145 lbs.)

  1. Mike Brown (22-4)
  2. Urijah Faber (22-3)
  3. Wagnney Fabiano (12-1)
  4. Jose Aldo (15-1)
  5. Hatsu Hioki (19-3-2)
  6. Leonard Garcia (12-4)
  7. "Lion" Takeshi Inoue (16-3)
  8. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto (17-2)
  9. Dokonjonosuke Mishima (19-6-2)
  10. Raphael Assuncao (13-1)

Bantamweight Rankings (126 to 135 lbs.)

  1. Miguel Torres (37-1)
  2. Brian Bowles (7-0)
  3. Takeya Mizugaki (11-3-2)
  4. Masakatsu Ueda (9-0-2)
  5. Joseph Benavidez (10-0)
  6. Akitoshi Tamura (14-7-2)
  7. Will Ribeiro (10-2)
  8. Rani Yahya (14-4)
  9. Damacio Page (11-4)
  10. Manny Tapia (10-2-1)

 

 

 

Critiquing Reality TV MMA Shows Is Serious Business

 

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Yahoo MMA writer Steve Cofield says MMA fans got what they wanted, a boring TUF 9 season:

You got what you wished for. If you were one of the folks whining about the integrity of the sport and were calling for less and more fights on the UFC's reality show, you got it. And what you also got was a show that was difficult to pay attention to. How many engaging personalities were there on the show beyond U.K. coach Michael Bisping and Team USA fighter Damarques Johnson? The season was a snoozefest and worse yet was the talent, which by juding from just four fights total being pulled from the cast, even the UFC thought was subpar.

The best storyline of the show may been Cameron Dollar versus Jason Dent. Dollar seems to hate Dent. Why? Simply because he thinks Dent lacks personality and is boring. Dollar was smart in his approach. He's a 22-year-old MMA newbie with just three pro fights who earned himself one of the eight coveted slot on Saturday's TUF 9 Finale.

 

 

Describing MMA Fighters Is Serious Business

 

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Fight Opinion's Zach Arnold laughs at Barnetts MMA description:

With his chiseled jaw and Mr. Incredible looks, Josh "The Babyfaced Assassin" Barnett could be the leading man in a Hollywood film or a character straight out of the anime that he loves so much. He has a superhero frame—at 6’3", 250 pounds, one can almost picture the "Babyfaced Assassin" wrapped in a cape, standing atop a tall building, scanning the city below for any evil doers. He is a well-spoken, charismatic figure whose persona is as compelling as his impressive fight record.

 

Caricaturizing MMA Fighters Is Serious Business

 

Round 5 and King Mo deserve an applause for their latest efforts.

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In comparison to :

 

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Finally, Being A Broke MMA Fan Is Serious Business

 

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You can also order Showtime and cancel the next day for a minimal fee.  Then, there is always the internetz, but what fun is that if you have people over.  Enjoy some great MMA this weekend.

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

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why are you bashing the independent rankings?

I think they’re a pretty welcome addition to the landscape.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see where he bashed them.

by szucconi on Jun 19, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feed em into the meta rankings

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 19, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

already have!

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness though. I’m not sure if there’s anything to do about this/if anyone cares, but some people are getting multiple votes in the metarankings. it’s not that big of a deal because it’s mainly because of some of the committee rankings, but still. Breen impacts the sherdog and these new ones. Snowden is on Wamma and this new one. Jared Barnes has his personal rankings, plus he votes for wamma and this one.

It probably won’t make that much of a difference, but does anyone care is there anything to do about this?

by Phildo on Jun 21, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...

Like szucconi said, its not bashing.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is what i found inexplicable

" It looks like we are in for a rankings war between different MMA media groups . It’s going to get real ugly around here soon"

?

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was edited out.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to write about the different rankings and media’s associated with them WAMMA, BE, yada, yada, yada, and decided to take it out.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

fair enough

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 19, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“He just turned into a differet guy, he didn’t need to do the things that I told him to do. He wasn’t going to go to the ground, you know? The day before the [Petruzelli] fight, I told him I wanted to go over heel hooks and escapes, and he said “Nah, its not going to go to the ground”.

OK, I’m confused. The day before the fight Kimbo didn’t know he was fighting Petruzelli, he was supposed to be fighting Shamrock. So is he saying that they had a secret deal with Shamrock to keep it standing like they did with Petruzelli?

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

by ufc4 on Jun 19, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bas didn’t say Pretruzelli, I believe Fighters Only filled in the wrong fighter.

It was supposed to be Shamrock. And it is pretty obvious here, that Bas was not aware of any type of stand up only deal, which means there probably wasn’t one. Its just pretty much a given that Shamrock doesn’t go to the ground anymore because he is too old, without any deals.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it’s just the part where he says so matter of factly that “it’s not going to go to the ground” that gets me. Unless he knew Shamrock wasn’t going to take him down (and the only way he could know that for sure is if they had a deal to stand) why would he not at least want to study the ground game a little bit?

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

by ufc4 on Jun 20, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He talked

about Kimbo getting heels hooked. Heel hooks = Shamrock.

by Riney on Jun 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those indy rankings please me

They seem a lot closer to the way I feel.

by subo on Jun 19, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well then, that is settled. They have the Subo seal of approval.
Not only that, Ivan Trembow and Zach Arnold, two of your favorite people, are part of the voting panel!
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Breen and Snowden suck too :-)

by subo on Jun 19, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Breen is he whom knows all about MMA.
Blasphemy!

by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Them's fightin' words, sir.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 20, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It boggles my mind to think that some people rank Brock Lesnar above Nogueira. Who exactly has Brock beaten to warrant such a ranking?

Until such discrepancies are cleared up, I call Shenanigans on all your ranking systems.

by Ahhhoki on Jun 19, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe he beat the UFC champion.

Due to Cheick Kongo's atrocious takedown defense....
Walla walla walla, I’m an idiot

by ufc4 on Jun 21, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alot of those guys on the independent ratings are or were on wamma as well. snowden,holland, joyner. did they quit wamma?

by bdw on Jun 20, 2009 2:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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