Will Gina Carano vs Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos Be the Biggest MMA News Event of the Year?
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker is not second guessing his decision to make the Carano vs Cyborg fight the headliner of Strikeforce's August 15th Showtime event. Despite sharing a bill with lightweight championship between Josh Thomson and Gilbert Melendez and a heavyweight title defense by Alistair Overeem, the women's bout will be the top fight on the card. Per MMA Junkie:
"The thought process was very simple," Coker told MMAjunkie.com. "If you look at the caliber of this fight, and it being the No. 1 and No. 2 females in the world, it was a no-brainer.
"It's not just the biggest female fight in MMA history," Coker said. "I really believe this is one of the largest combative female fights of all time.
"I follow women's mixed martial arts fights, I follow women's kickboxing, I saw women's boxing for the last 15 years, and I can't remember a time where a fight that has been a women's fight where No. 1 and No. 2 are fighting and that is as relevant in the history of the women's fight league."
MMA Junkie's Dan Stupp twittered yesterday that "This fight'll get more mainstream press than any in '09. Few major news outlets already called us 4 comment."
I wouldn't be surprised if Stupp is correct, although its too early to tell. Carano vs Cyborg will have some big competition in UFC 100, but they do have one ace card: Gina Carano's looks.
Maggie Hendrickss is saying that looks won't matter in the fight, but Zak Woods points out that Carano's looks mean a great deal for the marketing of the fight:
Maggie Hendricks is right, looks have nothing to do with the quality of fighter. But looks are tremendously important when it comes to selling a female athlete (it sucks but it is the truth, listen to our podcast to hear more about this topic). The sad reality is that a majority of sports consumers are men and unfortunately we gravitate to good looking women. On the flip side there are female sports clubs that gravitate to attractive men, the Washington Capitals have one and NBA teams regularly sign Wally Szczerbiak due to his unique fanbase.
Carano gives the Las Vegas Sun her take:
"I don't understand why so much is made about my looks, there are a lot of beautiful girls out there," Carano said. "I've always been able to stay humble and grateful instead of the opposite, which I credit to my dad. He wasn't a huge fan of me fighting at first because he wanted me to get an education and I had to stop going to college because I was getting so many opportunities in fighting. But he's definitely one of my biggest supporters now."
Personally, I think its great that this fight is the headliner of the Strikeforce show. I'm only bummed that its not going to be on CBS. That would definitely be a ratings bonanza, but I can see where the network brass is reluctant to possibly show pretty Gina Carano getting punched in the face on network TV.
On the other hand, if this event really does dramatically outshine UFC 100 in mainstream press attention, it will only show that we are in a very similar predicament to Japan -- fans of a great sport that is driven in the popular mind by spectacle.
Bubbles burst, lets hope that MMA doesn't blow up and pop in the U.S. like it did in Japan.
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Coker is absolutely correct for headlining this fight; and it very well may be the biggest mma fight of the year, certainly the biggest media coverage of a SF fight. he should jump while the iron is hot.
As for her looks, it is simple. Guys like looking at pretty girls. Pretty athletes even more. And pretty fighters? Oh yeah! Like it or not, it just strikes a primal chord. Then when you throw in female fans, well, they expect female fighters to be masculine, a little rough or even downright man-ish. I hate to say that, but I think many of the girls out there can relate more to a girl like Gina, than they can a girl like Cyborg.
Now you draw all this attention to your card, of course you put high profile fights/fighters on the card. That is who you want to get eyeballs on.
I don’t really know how anyone can question or doubt this move by Coker.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 19, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFC 100 is without question the biggest event of the year. Not sure how anybody can think differently. Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesnar is the biggest fight of the year. Not sure how anybody can think differently.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jun 19, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the fight and the card is “bigger” by what it means, but I would guess Carano/Cyborg will get many times more mainstream media coverage.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Jun 19, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way...
there is no way UFC 100 doesn’t get more attention than the ladies. Shit. 99 had results scrolling across the bottom of ESPN for 24 hours. I’d be shocked if Carano/Cyborg gets a mention
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 20, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Brent, MSM loves a good story. The pretty girl from next door fights the ugly girl from Brazil for the first ever female title, that is pure GOLD!
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by Zak Woods on Jun 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A) Strikeforce sucks at promoting their events
B) The UFC has a much better grip on the MSM than anyone else
C) Carano’s popularity is a bit overstated.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 20, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lesnar vs Mir?
No, not the biggest fight of the year.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brock Lesnar defeats Frank Mir by F5 then it will clearly be the biggest fight of the year.
I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.
by ronniebonnie on Jun 19, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easily and without question…. Mir/Lesnar 2 is the biggest fight of the year.
Perhaps for people who follow the sport all day online it isn’t. But the the vast majority of people who casually watch the sport, it is the biggest fight.
by AlwaysRelaxing on Jun 19, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then if you are talking about casuals, it will be in heavy competition with Gina vs Cyborg.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really. I watch with a lot of casuals and most of them don’t know who either of those two women are.
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by Richard Wade on Jun 23, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
judging by internet traffic, that fight should totally headline.
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by ekc on Jun 19, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Life Is All About Cycles
Bubbles burst, lets hope that MMA doesn’t blow up and pop in the U.S. like it did in Japan.
It will, and it will all depend how it bounces back. Same thing with Japan, they are dealing with MMA getting so popular and all of a sudden having a huge low. Most sports (specially combat sports) work this way because it takes a Sakuraba, DLH, Tyson, Ali, like figure to really get the sport up again.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The UFC may be able to avoid that to some degree since they sell the brand more than the individual fighters.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jun 19, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, the brand awareness will probably keep it from dropping too low, but, things change throughout time, so even brand strength has its cycles.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cyborg vs Gina II on CBS or PPV (depending how close the fight is).
=)
This is what the WEC wanted to do with Faber and Brown (offering it as the first WEC PPV), but weren’t able to do so.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should add a poll
Biggest MMA event of the year
UFC 100
Cyborg vs Carano
Kimbo on TUF
whatever else
by mythbuster on Jun 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I applaud the headline
I think this will not be on CBS because Carano is going to be in a situation where she could get mangled. You just can’t have that on national TV. We haven’t seen too many bloody female MMA fights, but both these woman are gamers. One isn’t going to fall down and half-tap give up. There will be blood, especially with Cyborg being an absolute beast. Could national TV handle a bloody cut on Carano – especially a cut that dominates the fight for the longer rounds?
My hope is this fight ends up being like Griffin and Bonner on the first TUF. This fight needs to set the standard for female MMA. If it does then the female MMA will have arrived.
by Sonic Boom on Jun 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it being the No. 1 and No. 2 females in the world
Ummm…no.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Jun 19, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was waiting for this. Who has them ranked #1 & #2?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
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by Richard Wade on Jun 19, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Coker and those clowns at WAMMA. It sucks seeing Coker deal with them, even a little bit.
by subo on Jun 19, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please. The casuals don’t even know any other 2 fighters, so, its really not that big of a deal.
No one knew any FWs other than Faber and now look, thanks to the WEC exposure. No one even knew who Miguel Torres was. It is a slow process to getting womens MMA exposure.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Jun 19, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re not the two best female fighters in the world. Period.
by subo on Jun 19, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please. The casuals don’t even know any other 2 fighters, so, its really not that big of a deal.
So if I say that Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir are the two best heavyweights in the world, what say you then?
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by Rundownloser on Jun 19, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is a debate ender...
I mean…you just closed the book on the debate
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 20, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Jun 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason it’s not on CBS is they are gunshy about MMA after getting burned so bad last time. It has nothing to do with being scared of GIna getting mangled, her fight is just about the only thing that almost got them to do it. Their crappy second rating didn’t help either.
by Michael Rome on Jun 20, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In short no it’s not, I really have no interest in women’s MMA and the fact that people keep trying so hard to convince everyone of how great this fight is makes me even more skeptical.
by Raker on Jun 20, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It will be the biggest non-UFC MMA event of the year. Or at least it should be, Strikeforce is just terrible at promoting thus far.
by Michael Rome on Jun 20, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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