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"Grass Eaters" on the Rise, MMA on the Decline in Japan

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A relatively new trend in Japan could lead to an even greater decline in interest in combat sports.  I found an article on slate.com about "Grass-eating men" in Japan who shun consumption and seek quieter less competitive lives.  It’s a growing subculture in Japan and the lack of macho under thirty types may drive out combat sports all together.  As many of us know, Japan is a hard place to gauge.  But according to a survey cited in the slate article, 75% of men ages 20-30 describe themselves as grass eating men.  That is a huge chunk of the key age demographic for MMA.  A large portion of the audience may be lost for the time being.  The attitude shift is a shift away from MMA.

Perhaps this means a rise in interest from women.  Maybe, like so many other things is Japan, it is just a fad and fighting will come back stronger then ever.  Maybe an earthquake will open the earth and swallow Japan rendering this article pointless.  Something to consider, something to talk about.  I don’t know a lot about Japan, but I am interested in hearing other reasons then Yakuza on why Japan MMA is down.  I love Dream shows as much as the next guy, but they are not Pride and not as stable.  What say you?


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This has pretty much nothing to do with mixed martial arts or even sports in general.

by George Lucas on Jun 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ah i beg to differ

it might help explain the cultural context in which Japan has gone from the #1 market in the world for MMA to a second tier.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The article doesn’t, but my take on it does. How will the shift in culture affect MMA and sports? I don’t have any answers because I am dumb when it comes to Japan. Knocking out 75% of the demographic is a large blow to potential pull. Its like a News papers circulation going down. Cuts from revenue right off the top.

by szucconi on Jun 17, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The a whole major demograpic in Japan is making a major economic and social shift, of course it is a topic for discussion dealing with MMA in Japan.

by who me on Jun 17, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How does it not have to do with MMA? MMA appeals to a specific demographic, and if the demographic moves in one direction that is away from MMA, TV deals and exposure die off.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I LOLed.. seriously.
This had to be rec’d.

by pr0cs on Jun 17, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*shakes head*

Shunning sex is never the way to go, friend.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 17, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You haven't seen my wife

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by themachiavellian on Jun 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Japan’s 20- and 30-something males seem uninterested in careers and marriage. They spend almost as much on cosmetics and clothes as women, live with their mums and sit on the toilet when they pee. Some have even been known to wear bras.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2009/jun/14/grass-eaters-make-hay-in-japan/

by Nick Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

terrifying.

by pr0cs on Jun 17, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could Yuichiro Nagashima become the most popular fighter in Japan?

by FRANKIE on Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smart man ahead of his time, he saw the market shift!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 17, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like half the guys I went to high school with. But that’s because they’re failures at life, not Japanese.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 17, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The fundamental and incorrect assumption a lot of you seem to be making is that this mode of living is somehow docile in a way that isn’t compatible with liking combat sports, which isn’t the case.

That 75 percent is in no way categorically “knocked out”. Living more frugally or simplistically, settling for meager jobs and just trying to go about your business doesn’t necessarily say anything for soemone’s interest in the boxing, kickboxing, MMA, or anything.

I’ve got Japanese acquaintances who fit the grasseater mold to a tee, and are still huge MMA fans. In fact, it almost helps in some ways, as some of them use MMA as a more simplistic treat, reward or vacation for themselves. Rather than travelling abroad, or making a lavish purchase, they think, “Maybe I’ll go see Shooto at Shinjuku Face.”

by Jordan Breen on Jun 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Aside from all the good humor angles on this the real issue I saw here was the decreased spending and simplier lives. People who are fans will still be fans even if they are “walking a different path” but the casual viewing audience obviously is drifting off to watch and do other things, the ratings show that out. Less spending will contract the market as people spend only on main interest instead of on a broad variety of things.

by who me on Jun 17, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ratings have absolutely nothing to do with this trend. This trend was already well underway during the kakutogi boom in which MMA was incredibly lucrative and profitable.

TV ratings for MMA are down in Japan because Japan is a fad-based market of cultural consumption. Everything goes in cycles, until some sort of figure excites and rouses public interest and rejuvenates a market. The kakutogi boom was built on figures like Sapp, Masato and Yoshida, because the nation found these people extremely interesting, the same way the boxing experienced regrowth with the Kamedas and then Daisuke Naito.

There’s no one deeply interesting for the layperson right now. That’s why Satoshi Ishii was a coveted figure. MMA isn’t any different than any other niche interest in Japan, which is subject to the same boom-and-bust yo-yo effect over time.

by Jordan Breen on Jun 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the translation. Like I said, maybe is means something and maybe it doesn’t. I think the Fad-based market has a lot to do with it. How does being a grass eater affect the competitive spirit? That is really why I made the connection. I admit I know nothing of Japan so taking this information in my own context, I would think people living this type of life style would have not interest in shows or the dragon lady or any other trappings of Japanese MMA. And certainly one can be a grass eating boy and still love MMA, but in my experience that would be atypical in America.

by szucconi on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Japan is a very very strange place for those used to western cultures.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 18, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this is why I have to ask. I am not afraid of being wrong.

by szucconi on Jun 18, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

sweat sweat cause i'm a poisonous pill

by Eugene Schelfaut on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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