"Grass Eaters" on the Rise, MMA on the Decline in Japan
A relatively new trend in Japan could lead to an even greater decline in interest in combat sports. I found an article on slate.com about "Grass-eating men" in Japan who shun consumption and seek quieter less competitive lives. It’s a growing subculture in Japan and the lack of macho under thirty types may drive out combat sports all together. As many of us know, Japan is a hard place to gauge. But according to a survey cited in the slate article, 75% of men ages 20-30 describe themselves as grass eating men. That is a huge chunk of the key age demographic for MMA. A large portion of the audience may be lost for the time being. The attitude shift is a shift away from MMA.
Perhaps this means a rise in interest from women. Maybe, like so many other things is Japan, it is just a fad and fighting will come back stronger then ever. Maybe an earthquake will open the earth and swallow Japan rendering this article pointless. Something to consider, something to talk about. I don’t know a lot about Japan, but I am interested in hearing other reasons then Yakuza on why Japan MMA is down. I love Dream shows as much as the next guy, but they are not Pride and not as stable. What say you?
image via slate.com
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This has pretty much nothing to do with mixed martial arts or even sports in general.
by George Lucas on Jun 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ah i beg to differ
it might help explain the cultural context in which Japan has gone from the #1 market in the world for MMA to a second tier.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
The article doesn’t, but my take on it does. How will the shift in culture affect MMA and sports? I don’t have any answers because I am dumb when it comes to Japan. Knocking out 75% of the demographic is a large blow to potential pull. Its like a News papers circulation going down. Cuts from revenue right off the top.
How does it not have to do with MMA? MMA appeals to a specific demographic, and if the demographic moves in one direction that is away from MMA, TV deals and exposure die off.
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by Leland Roling on Jun 17, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Japan panics about the rise of “grass-eating men,” who shun sex, don’t spend money, and like taking walks.
Did they all get married?
Keep firing Assholes!
Out out, you demons of stupidity!
by Ubernoober on Jun 17, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
*shakes head*
Shunning sex is never the way to go, friend.
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by Leland Roling on Jun 17, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Scott C. Broussard on Jun 17, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Japan’s 20- and 30-something males seem uninterested in careers and marriage. They spend almost as much on cosmetics and clothes as women, live with their mums and sit on the toilet when they pee. Some have even been known to wear bras.

http://www.tribune.ie/news/article/2009/jun/14/grass-eaters-make-hay-in-japan/
The fundamental and incorrect assumption a lot of you seem to be making is that this mode of living is somehow docile in a way that isn’t compatible with liking combat sports, which isn’t the case.
That 75 percent is in no way categorically “knocked out”. Living more frugally or simplistically, settling for meager jobs and just trying to go about your business doesn’t necessarily say anything for soemone’s interest in the boxing, kickboxing, MMA, or anything.
I’ve got Japanese acquaintances who fit the grasseater mold to a tee, and are still huge MMA fans. In fact, it almost helps in some ways, as some of them use MMA as a more simplistic treat, reward or vacation for themselves. Rather than travelling abroad, or making a lavish purchase, they think, “Maybe I’ll go see Shooto at Shinjuku Face.”
by Jordan Breen on Jun 17, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Aside from all the good humor angles on this the real issue I saw here was the decreased spending and simplier lives. People who are fans will still be fans even if they are “walking a different path” but the casual viewing audience obviously is drifting off to watch and do other things, the ratings show that out. Less spending will contract the market as people spend only on main interest instead of on a broad variety of things.
The ratings have absolutely nothing to do with this trend. This trend was already well underway during the kakutogi boom in which MMA was incredibly lucrative and profitable.
TV ratings for MMA are down in Japan because Japan is a fad-based market of cultural consumption. Everything goes in cycles, until some sort of figure excites and rouses public interest and rejuvenates a market. The kakutogi boom was built on figures like Sapp, Masato and Yoshida, because the nation found these people extremely interesting, the same way the boxing experienced regrowth with the Kamedas and then Daisuke Naito.
There’s no one deeply interesting for the layperson right now. That’s why Satoshi Ishii was a coveted figure. MMA isn’t any different than any other niche interest in Japan, which is subject to the same boom-and-bust yo-yo effect over time.
Thanks for the translation. Like I said, maybe is means something and maybe it doesn’t. I think the Fad-based market has a lot to do with it. How does being a grass eater affect the competitive spirit? That is really why I made the connection. I admit I know nothing of Japan so taking this information in my own context, I would think people living this type of life style would have not interest in shows or the dragon lady or any other trappings of Japanese MMA. And certainly one can be a grass eating boy and still love MMA, but in my experience that would be atypical in America.
Japan is a very very strange place for those used to western cultures.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
The “herbivore male” subculture, like Jordan has mentioned, has been developing for a while—it’s just that no one named it until recently, which was when it began to gain widespread media attention.
In 2006, the term was officially introduced by Maki Fukazawa. She penned a a series of columns detailing the “herbivore male” for Nikkei Business Online, only to have her ideas taken up and expanded upon in 2008 by Masahiro Morioka, a sociologist at Osaka University, who published a book on them. As soon as that happened, the media picked up on it and it became a topic of popular discussion.
One thing that Fukazawa and Morioka are very clear on in their assessment of “grasseaters” or “herbivore males” is that despite their non-aggressive attitudes toward women and relationships, that does not necessarily mean that they shun romantic relationships or that they don’t have sex. Rather, as the generation raised under the notion of gender equality, qualities that are stereotypically attributed to Japanese males no longer necessarily apply. I think that it would be safe to say that that assessment could be extended to their attitudes toward conflict and competition, as well. Their attitudes toward conflict and competition need not be mutually exclusive to their patronage of sports (or combat spots, for that matter).
The real issue is that there is subculture of Japanese males that are deviating from traditional perceptions of Japanese masculinity, and what these changes mean for the future of Japan—particularly given its low birthrate and rapidly aging society. Just from my anecdotal experience, speaking to and even training with self-described “herbivore male” acquaintances, there is little here to definitively prove that this subculture is somehow responsible for “killing fight sport in Japan.”
There is a possibility that there is some kind of correlation, but all my experience here in Japan tells me otherwise. For now, however, Jordan’s observations on the tendencies of Japanese interests and their fad-cycles is a much more perspicacious assessment of the Japanese audience and their patronage of MMA.
by ikari47 on Jun 18, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Thanks.
sweat sweat cause i'm a poisonous pill
by Eugene Schelfaut on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions

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