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UFC 99: The Comeback - Live Results and Commentary

99_black_wandy_red_medium As with every major show, Bloodyelbow.com will be here to bring you live results and commentary for UFC 99: The Comback - Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva. The card will also feature Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez. The live blog will start with the beginning of the PPV broadcast (3pm ET) so make sure to make Bloody Elbow your home for this event.

As always we have our one rule: NO SPOILERS! In the interest of not ruining anything from the undercard that may make the broadcast we ask that you do not discuss the results of the undercard in the comments until either the broadcast ends or the fight makes the air.

So again, join us for the show and share your thoughts as the event unfolds.

The broadcast has started and the first fight will be up shortly.

Dan Hardy vs. Marcus Davis - This should get the card off on the right foot!  I'm stoked for this fight!  Round 1 - Body kick misses for Davis as they feel each other out early.  Davis charges in for the takedown and has Hardy against the fence.  Hardy has an underhook to prevent the takedown.  Finally Davis is able to get the takedown and Davis has the mount.  Hardy gets half guard and then full guard.  Very high guard by Hardy but Davis gets up.  Hardy gives up his back trying to stand up.  Hardy is trying to reverse but isn't having any luck.  Hardy is able to stand and Davis is gassing a little.  Big shots from Hardy and Davis is hurt.  Davis is cut and the round ends.  Very close with Hardy hurting him toward the end and Davis is all swollen and looks really tired.  10-9 Davis.  Round 2 - Davis with a flying knee attempt and Hardy counters with a left.  Again a counter left hook from Hardy.  Davis with a counter right now.  They're trading and Hardy witht the better shots.  Knee from Hardy and Davis goes down!  Hardy follows him down and land some shots but Davis is recovering.  Davis with and armbar attempt and it was deep but Hardy got his arm out.  Davis using some elbows off his back.  They're stood up by the ref.  Left hand by Hardy and Davis pushes him against the cage.  Knee to the body by Hardy and they split.  Left hand by Davis lands flush.  Davis with a takedown and a few punches.   10-9 round for Hardy on the strength of the knockdown.  Round 3 - Left hand by Davis and Hardy slips so Davis follows him down. A little bit of damage by Davis from the top.  Davis goes for a toe hold, then a heel hook but can't finish and Hardy is able to stand up. Hardy with a takedown.  Big elbow now by Hardy.  BIG cut on Davis' nose.  The fight is stopped to check the cut and he is unable to stand up well.  They continue the fight.  That cut and obvious wobbly legs from Davis make me want to give the round to Hardy as he was obviously more effective from on top.  They're stood back up.  Left hook from Hardy.  Leg kick from Hardy.  Left again from Hardy.  Left hook AGAIN from Hardy.  The round ends and I score it 10-9 Hardy.  They shake hands.  And Hardy walks over to say good fight to Davis' corner.  My final scorecard is 29-28 Hardy.  Official Scorecards: 29-28 Hardy, 29-28 Davis, 29-28 Hardy.  Dan Hardy wins by split decision.  Davis is upset but it's hard to complain.  Hardy tries to shake his hand and Davis refuses.  He was willing to shake hands when he thought he won, so obviously respect only counts when you win, if you lose you can be a baby.

Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno - Round 1 - Low kick from Fisher.  Shot from Uno is stuffed by a nice sprawl by Fisher.  Uno now presses Fisher against the cage.  Fisher with some knees while he has double underhooks.  Boos are starting as almost the whole fight to this point has been clinching against the cage.  They're restarted in the center of the cage.  Left hand just misses for Fisher.  Solid outside leg kick by Fisher and now a good uppercut.  Uno with another takedown attempt and Fisher defends.  Some knees to the body now by Fisher.  Back to being pushed against the cage and the crowd isn't loving it.  Fisher landed a lot of knees to the body.  10-9 Fisher.  Not an entertaining round.  Round 2 - Takedown by Uno and they stand.  Another takedown attempt and Fisher defends.  Two solid leg kicks by Uno and another shot is stuffed.  Fisher lands a knee to the body and then ends up on bottom.  Nice sweep to get back to the feet by Spencer.  Again they clinch against the cage.  I like Uno but this fight isn't going to keep him on main cards in the future.  Takedown attempt by Fisher and uno ends up on top.  They end up standing though.  10-9 Uno I guess.  This fight is ugly and not very entertaining.  Round 3 - Nice left hand by Fisher and Uno immediately tries for a takedown.  Not much action at all this round.  Fisher unloads with a few punches and a knee to the body and Uno gets a takedwoan and gets the mount.  Uno landing some nice shots from on top and Fisher briefly got half buard back but Uno back to mount and he lands some more shots.  10-9 round for Uno and I guess he wins 29-28.  Official Scorecards:  29-28 across the board for Spencer Fisher.  Spencer Fisher wins by unanimous decision.

Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders - Round 1 - Saunders pulls guard right away.  Swick is landing some punches to the body but Saunders has control over Swick's body.  Swick asks if Saunders is going to hold him all night.  Saunders says "lets stand back up bitch."  They speak better with their mouthpieces in than I do.  They're stood back up.  They each land some shots and clinch up again against the cage.  Knee to the head by Saunders.  The round ends and I guess it was 10-9 Swick.  Round 2 - Head kick blocked by Swick.  Swick grabs a clinch and gets a takedown and ends up in full mount.  Saunders gets guard back.  Saunders now locks up a body triangle but had to let go.  They're stood back up.  Swick with a knee and Saunders with one in return.  Swick lands a big flurry and Saunders goes down!  The fight is over!  Mike Swick wins by TKO (punches), round 1.

Mirko Cro-Cop Filipovic vs. Mustapha Al-Turk - Round 1 - Right hand by Al-Turk lands flush.  Takedown attempt is shrugged off.  Al-Turk is pressing and throwing a lot but hasn't really landed since the first punch.  Cro Cop's hands look really slow.Punches lnad for Mirko now and Al-Turk is running away.  Al-Turk is down!  Mirko has him stand up.  Mirko lands a shot and Al-Turk turns away.  Many punches and the fight is stopped.  Mirko Filipovic wins by TKO (punches), round 1.  Very clear that the final flurry was started by a very bad eye poke by Mirko.

Cain Velasquez vs. Cheick Kongo - Round 1 - Kongo jabbing early.  Two big right hands rock Cain and he still manages to get a takedown.  He was hurt badly.  Kongo stands up and they're scrambling.  Cain learned awful quickly that he isn't good enough standing to play that game with Kongo.  Cain with side control and Kongo lands a few elbows, now full mount.  Kongo gives up his back and Cain with a choke attempt.  Kongo avoida and again gives up his back.  Cain is just mugging him on the ground.  Kongo gives up his back again and eats a lot of shots.  Kongo is constantly trying to get up but Velasquez is controling him and landing a lot of dammage.  They stand and again big takedown by Cain, and into full mount.  Gives up his back again and now is mounted again.  The round is going to end and thank god he rocked Cain early because otherwise it'd have been 10-8.  10-9 Cain.  Round 2 - Kongo hurts him again but for some reason clinches with him.  Takedown now by Cain because Kongo decided to spend a bunch of time clinching with him.  Cain on top landing shots again.  Not a lot else to say but that Cain is landing a lot of punches.  They stand for a second and Cain with a takedown.  More dominant position and damage from Cain.  Knees to the body by Cain.  The round ends and 10-9 again.  Round 3 - A big right by Kongo again but he's grappling with Cain again.  Kongo gets the takedown but ends up on bottom shortly anyway.  They stand up and Kongo defends the takedown.  Kongo hurts him again!  But charges in so recklessly that he gets taken down again.  Cain in the mount landing punches and now Kongo trying to punch up at him.  The round ends and 10-9 again (but feel free to score any of them 10-8)  30-27 on my card.  Official Scorecards: no scorecards given, Cain Velasquez wins by unanimous decision.

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva - Round 1 - Feeling out for over a minute.  Straight left by Franklin misses.  Each guy lands a left.  Both guys land punches again.  Body kick by Rich lands.  High kick by Wanderlei just misses.  Wanderlei catches a body kick and takes Rich down.  Some GNP by Silva and now they stand.  Silva tries to lock in a guillotine and instead ends up on bottom.  Rich opens up a cut over Wanderlei's eye and gets mount but they go back to standing. 10-9 Franklin.  Round 2 - Rich says he broke Wanderlei's nose.  They come out and again it is at a distance where Silva is not going to be able to easilly win and Rich can get in and out safely.  Rich with a few nice shots.  It's more of the same with Rich standing outside and getting in and out while Wanderlei telegraphs his shots and can't land.  It's an active fight but very repetitive so there isn't a lot to type here.  Left/right combo buckles Rich a little bit.  Wanderlie is pushing forward and landing shots but Rich comes back and lands one of his own.  The round ends with both guys looking a bit shaken.  Very close round but I guess 10-9 Franklin for controling more of the round.  Round 3 - Franklin is picking him apart again now.  Body kicks and occasional straight punches.  Body kick lands to Wanderlei's cup but they keep going.  Big shot by Franklin.  Silva gets the clinch and hits a knee.  They are trading big shots now and Wanderlei is winning the exchange.  Takedown by Rich but Silva is able to tand back up.  The fight ends with Wanderlei throwing a bunch of back elbows and Right throwing punches.  10-9 Silva.  Another pretty hard round to score.  29-28 Franklin in my book.  Official Scorecardsgive it to Franklin across the board.  Rich Franklin wins by unanimous decision.

UFC 99: The Comeback coverage

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Stay awake buddy!

watchkalibrun.com

by Zak Woods on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry guys...

I was out with the wife all day and forgot to post this prior to now.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

the usuall UFC showing here is at 10am and ends at around 1230 or 1..

and they’ll be showing that, but i have to go to lunch with a bunch of relatives.. (boo)

so i decided to stay up at 3am to watch…. now i feel what the night crew feels..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  


the wallpaper already got posted in the staff predictions.. i think any of these two are more suited for the live blog post…
just my 2c. :)

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

WAR WAND

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s hard to have a PPV party when it starts at 12pm. I usually order the HD PPV, but for this one, I think I’ll go with a free stream.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

No spoilers right?

What if I tell you that in the preliminary card we had some winners and some losers?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit I was hoping for all draws!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAN!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

New game:

Who is Kongo if this is not fight of the night?

“If this is not fight of the night then I am not Cheick Kongo”

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

He has to box Lennox Lewis

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheick Kongo: Fear my name, not my ground game

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW!

What the fuck is wrong with Goldberg’s face?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not watching

What is the problem? Does he look totally trashed?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's all spotty...

looks like it may just be jetlag

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad food?

He didn’t look this way on the video blog.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Joe took a side trip to Amsterdam

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Justin’s house is under attack. Hope everyone can find another house where they can watch this card.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

natedoggtelevision2009 is a good brand of tv..

justin says he likes the “UFC”

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAR CARL UNO!

so says goldie

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I want Hardy to explode a chin

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m rooting for the double KO. National pride is such a stupid thing.

As Carlin said: what the hell is there to be proud of? You didn’t earn anything.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got my hater blockers on.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are running behind

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Just so you guys know...

they’re going to hug and shake hands after the fight and Goldie will talk about it being “what MMA is all about”

/spoiler

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Fighting it out has a way of draining the dislike

by MMARich on Jun 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Writing on a flag...

that shows real national pride. Desecrating it…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Coming out to "Jump Around" just makes you look like a douche

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

good god, it’s a piece of cloth

by MMARich on Jun 13, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just joking...

you may want to leave if you’re not up for having a good time

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take your sweet time, Marcus. What is this a 6 minute entrance now? Geeez

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Buffer speaking german made me LOL

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Us too...

priceless stuff

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

What the hell was that, Bruce?

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap

I’ve missed so much without watching the actual fights. :(

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

FIRST ONE TO TAKE IT TO THE GROUND IS A PUSSY

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Tim Sylvia or Ray Mercer?

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mercer

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

im impressed with hardy's ground game..

or maybe it’s just cause i thought he had almost zero game there..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Davis is gassed

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

All that increased muscle probably isn't helping him

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis 10-9

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, when in doubt, give it to the “named” fighter.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you want to brawl with Hardy?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A TON of bloody on the mat

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know if I want to see the fight that caused it...

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok yoda

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

MUAY THAI KNEES

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

How many fights have i missed?

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet

they must have been pretty bloody pre lims

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

10-9 Hardy

Good fight

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m a little surprised how close this fight is so far

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

10-9 Hardy

19-19 going into the 3rd

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Won't be surprised to see

Hardy ahead on one scorecard

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on the start of this round, I would be. Lots of time left, though.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never mind, I can’t read. Fail me

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it my stream keeps freezing

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

marcus was really out of it

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

if this isn’t FOTN, then dammit we must be in for a real treat later!

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you saying that Cheick Kongo is not Cheick Kongo?

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hardy 20-18

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

errrr, 29-28

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardy was more effective from on top in the last round so I give it to him.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hardy won one round clearly

two close rounds….

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Punk move by Davis there.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, seriously...

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah,

hardy was classy even before the decision.. davis is an ass..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second round Davis was much more active from the bottom even after getting rocked.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got knocked down, then went on to be more active the rest of the round.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I scored it for Hardy due to the knockdown, but can see how other’s might not.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

disappointed that neither fighter could finish, what with all the trash talk

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Davis wath pretty collected in this fight, for an angry guy.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davis can’t be upset with the loss considering he is going to the hospital for sure.

by Dropkick434 on Jun 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

punk move by Davis

didnt want to shake hands….

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm batting 100%

“Hardy by split decision”

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/12/907537/ufc-99-the-comeback-predictions#16903476

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Er... I gues .1000 works as well.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No clue about the prelims, but I am 0-1 so far.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

Davis was willing to shake hands when he thought he won. But he lost so he isn’t willing now. Can’t respect unless you win I guess.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He was pissed off…

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

So?

Can’t shake a guy’s hand if you’re pissed? Hardy didn’t score the fight (he just won it)

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let’s say today I am understanding of how pissed off people act…my girlfriend’s job is treating her like such shit and I cannot do anything about it, so god damn frustrating.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it man...

and honestly I always bitch about the “honor, respect, always shake hands” mentality of the sport. Sometimes you don’t like guys. I just thought it was funny that he was willing to shake hands BEFORE he lost

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

True =)

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

CRO COP

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

My internet lags to hell, so my posts lag

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karl Uno!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Goldie just call him carl?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s apparently using the Engrish pronunciation, something he’d do.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marcus Davis won that fight since there was a winner. He knocked down Hardy in the 3rd, was active on top for half the round, then Hardy does a couple of shots from the bottom and maintains position and wins, it was horse shit. It should of been a draw, because I think the second round was 10-8

by "Mr. NC-17" on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That wasn't a knockdown in the 3rd...

it was clearly a slip.

They both worked from on top in the round and Hardy both cut him and hurt him.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fight could go either way. But damage has to be taken into consideration, so Hardy wins it. The decision is correct.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every significant shot was landed by hardy. Davis wrestling and BJJ was better but he didn’t use his control to do any real damage. Hardy put Davis on the mat twice

by Dropkick434 on Jun 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caol Uno will lose due to the fact that he is Caol Uno.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Nirvana!!!! Yeah!!

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

To be the man, you have to beat the man.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!

…oh wait…that isn’t right

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wooooooooooooooooooo

jeez had to correct u :P. I hate Flair…

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always hated Fisher, I hope Uno trashes him

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm I put money on Uno

just right during entrances. Did I make an impulsive bet (with my earnings from Hardy fight)?

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Not an impulsive bet...just a dumb one ;)

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is setting up to be a 3 round snoozer.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely boring 1st round

Implying I found a way to watch.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Fisher 10-9 via zzzzzzzzzzz

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I had somehow convinced myself that these would all be exciting fights.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Why doesn’t fisher just hit LB and on the right joystick push it up and make a quarter turn.???

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

No Joe

I don’t appreciate this fight. It blows. Screw “neutralization”.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

You're uneducated!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i now hate fisher even more, and still think uno is super-overrated

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I think UFC 103 is Spike TV quality

No way would this main event be on Spike.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must not be an MMA purist

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally spoiled

By WEC 41.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Aren’t we all?

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

by Discman2 on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

First round kinda slow, but I thought there was good action in the 2nd

by MMARich on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

This is like watching a Team Quest sparring session.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

People are using judo

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait dammit sokoudjou left Quest :(

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

19-19

It’s cool to watch I guess, but its really boring.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

It's a crap fight...

I like both dudes…but man, no one in the room is into the fight at all.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not LnP, it's clinch and Pray

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

and Uno won’t be making a main card any time soon after this

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

crowds are notoriously shitty, if you agree with them that might be a problem

by MMARich on Jun 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We speaka da english here!

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you saying...

that if you’re agreeing with booing this fight that you’re in the wrong?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

just saying I wouldn’t use the crowd as a guide to how good a fight is

by MMARich on Jun 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I was using the boringness of the fight.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a bad fight.

The crowd is who…you know…matters as far as entertainment goes.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uno dominated round 3

I think he won the fight.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Uno 29-28

Bleh

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I had it 29-28 Fisher until that last minute but now I agree

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That fight was a robbery!

…for the fans…

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

they need to speed up the interviewing/walk in stuff, at this pace they won’t finish all the fights if they all go to decision

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

1 minute winning the fight?

Sigh…

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Fisher wins by UD

Ugh.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I was rooting for Uno, but meh. I could care less about the decision.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Fisher by uni? What?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Goldberg

Who is Carl Uno?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry guys

The Struve-Uno-Franklin parlay isn’t going to help our MMA playground betting team out.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Cro Cop will win with a HK and make everything better.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

This could be the best fight on the card!!!!

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

WAR_SAUNDERS

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Swick

being boring and taking Saunders down.

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been thinking the same things leading up to today.

I have Saunders for the upset.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

God that fight sucked bigtime.

“Not entertaining for the casual drunken meathead”—Joe Rogan, habitual hallucinogen user who was probably on LSD to enjoy that piece of shit fight.

Uno should have won, but at least they can cut him now after this fight.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Might as well...

they can’t put him on a main card again after that.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...that's fine...

he has value there.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why he won't get cut..

maybe they can put him in the prelims against some cans.. then he probably beats them quickly and could be sneaked in the ppv broadcast..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any fight that goes to the ground

Gives Rogan an erection.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad Im not the only guy who noticed that comment from Rogan.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not entertaining for the casual drunken meathead

That statement by itself is absolutely true.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not drunk or high, I hope I were.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he can't say that the fight sucks, since its his job not to.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap I had Fisher by unanimous decision

2-2.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I lost money

but I aint crying.

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehh

I could see the Judges not wanting to give a 10-10 round and Fisher did control the fight by sprawling…

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t really control a fight by just defending

by yngjzy on Jun 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Swick

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Continuing my great picking tradition, I am now 0-2.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Death threw up on Swick’s entrance shirt

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I worry about Saunders' wrestling

or else I’d bet on him.

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Where you at India?

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man my stream died.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Swickotine. DRINK!

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Goldberg doesn’t wear underwear. Fact of the night.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

"Tru dat"

Goldy in da hizzouse

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Decent 1st round

I give Saunders the round.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Do I mean

it is opposite day? ;)

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which means you don't mean it.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you not mean to mean it, though?

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

False

Couldn’t disagree with you more.

P.S. I “hate” this youtube vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFKS62wQAA

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The natives are getting restless

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Great strategy from Saunders.

Wait, nevermind, it was retarded. Idiot.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

This is supposed to be the best fight on the card. Failburger

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

As Goldie would say : A white bald dude won that round. Don’t ask me which one.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess the KO of Goulet was entirely the result of Goulet’s paper head.

God, Swick is dull.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Still have Cro Cop, Cain and Wanderlei that can provide some amazing finishes to save the card

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain will be involved in an amazing finish but now how you imagine

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I left it pretty open as Cro Cop and Wanderlei have gotten KTFO’d so if Cain is going to be involved in an amazing finish but not how I imagine it would have to involve a run-in and a steel chair.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys, more grappling with no posturing or submissions! EXCITING!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, Germany. How you like the MMAs now? Sup?

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh look at that

We got a finished fight. Thanks, Swick.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Well that was quick

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

BLAH!!

Saunders is better than that

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

There we go!

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, now the UFC has a little breathing room.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

And I am 0-3! So awesome!

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm 3-0.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real easy when you pick the favorites ALL THE TIME!

/chris farley

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, this is the next 170 contender?

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

not impressed..

and he asked for a title shot after he beat mr.goulet..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh...

Mike Swick vs. GSP would be…just…just a murder

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murder is not a strong enough word

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murder then cannibalism?

I’m getting a UK stream and some of their commercials are just creepy.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should let swick fight condit

a win would jumpstart condit’s run to the title.. plus i wanna see swick get KOed..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kampman VS Swick. Make it happen.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to type

I miss the “I don’t give a damn” wild swinging Swick. And then….

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Cro-Cop!!!

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

9-1 in the UFC wow.
 Win Ben Saunders
 Win Jonathan Goulet
 Win Marcus Davis
 Win Josh Burkman
 Loss Yushin Okami
 Win David Loiseau
 Win Joe Riggs
 Win Steve Vigneault
 Win Gideon Ray
 Win Alex Schoenauer

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s due for a title shot.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weeed break

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

WILD BOYS! WILD BOYS!

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Here comes the big boys

No more excuses, Cro Cop. Let’s see the PRIDE OWGP champ form.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

PLEASE

be the Cro Cop of old.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Al-Turk coming into the octagon with Eminem as the music choice?

He’s getting his ass kicked.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Cro Cop needs to wear a steel cup.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

"Cro-cop is back in form."

That’s not a stretch.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

the best thing so far on this card was Rogan deeming Saunders the winner of the trash talk because he used the word “bitch”

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

In the context

of it happening mid fight it was priceless.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god...Eminem...

jesus.

Cro Cop looked pretty awful at the weigh-ins…this should be interesting.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

“he is very educated…his dad is a doctor”

Joe Rogan believes that knowledge is passed generationally.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

thought this was hilarious too, but it was Mike Goldberg.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...it was...

I just got in too big of a rush to type it

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

he doesn’t look AS bad as I thought he did yesterday. Bigger but not awful like I thought

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yea its not as bad as the pics suggested.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he doesn't look fat, just...older

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rogan is

on the good Euro shit apparently.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

His head looks bigger, he should win by KO

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Checkered tights FTW!

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.Please be Pride Cro Cop.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel a huge KO coming.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

How is it “ironic” that Kongo beat both men? How, in any way, does that fall under the header of “irony”

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s like rain on your wedding day.

by Phildo on Jun 13, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the traffic jam when you’re already late

or

the no smoking sign on your cigarette break

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Jun 13, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that ironic?

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Mirko's hands look SLOW

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

:<

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you tell? He isn’t throwing anything

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Circlecirclecirclecirclecircle

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

God damn I hate these European events,..

always forget they are in the afternoon.

Oh,and al Turk is done.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh boy this fight is about to end.

Now it has.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

did al turk get poked in the eye?

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

He got poked in the eye. Ouch.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugly, ugly finish. How is Al-Turk even in the UFC?

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

CRO COP!

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

oh shit

fucking cro cop

and miragliotta sucks

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah Miragliotta is awful

But Mazzagatti would’ve let Cro-Cop have 20-25 more punches in there.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mazzagatti just likes a good bloodbath.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

boooooooooooooooooooooo

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn now the questions about Cro Cop are still un answered.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

If you didn’t have Cro-Cop by first round TKO at MMA playground shame on you. We can build on this!

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

at least crocop had him down before the poke…

by kovy on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Very true...

that saved a lot of the fight.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew once we saw Miragliotta’s stupid face that he would find a way to taint this fight.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m feeling bad for Al Turk. He gets raped in the ring, and he gets poked too. And the referee didn’t give a damn. Actually nobody did.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Al Turk was getting owned before it anyway. No rematch, Al Turk is going to get cut.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

They should give him a big bonus, at least. Short notice fighting Cro Cop and a shitty stoppage. Sucks.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

you don’t waste Mirko’s fights on a rematch with Al-Turk. It was unfortunate but it was still a clear fight.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Crocop kick at all? Maybe his knees aren’t doing so hot =(

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

i didn't see a single kick..

i hope his legs are okay though.. good thing he’ll have a few more months to make it heal even better.

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe i am just crazy but i don’t see anyway Franklin can hurt Silva. Franklin doesn’t have enough power.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, bash me all you want, but when Mirko started unleashing for the first time in years with his hands I marked out like a girl.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Part of me wants Cain to win

and part of me has a problem rooting for racists.

So I guess I root for Congo.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

White power, brown power… whatever

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

pride, dude, pride

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They didnt call it pride when Hughes held up a shirt that said white power.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it’s a good thing that his tat doesn’t say “brown power,” eh?

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by jemaleddin on Jun 15, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’m proud to be white, but I can’t get a tattoo….

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's proud of his roots..

doesn’t mean he’s racist.. it’s like vera’s alibata tattoos and gsp’s tat..

but i won’t start that debate now.. cause it’s pointless..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

I’m not going to argue it. Just saying, what one says about “white power” applies to others as well. IMO, and I’m done.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your opinion, but not everyone agrees. In theory, yes. Theory goes out the window in reality.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not hypocrisy to recognize that “white power” has different historical connotations than “brown power.”

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

good idea

everyone’s had their say, everyone’s stayed reasonable and polite. let’s quit while we’re ahead.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So who exactly has this “brown power” tattoo?

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by jemaleddin on Jun 15, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, brown pride isn’t even close to white power.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Did you see something in his performance that suggests he should be kept around?

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will give the other fighter a superb chance at KO of the night?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odds on favorite.

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, losing to Cro Cop? Who hasn’t beaten that guy? :-P

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by jemaleddin on Jun 15, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Rogan just used the word “any” three times in one sentence to describe how heavyweight fighters can finish fights.

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Kongo just yawn?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

BS stoppage

I’ve lost respect for Mirko, I never had any for Miragliotta to begin with. For mirko to say he was happy and Miragliotta to not see this is BS. Al turk was puching the action and did not deserve that. Sad fight.

by cyke on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Watch the fight again

Al turk was standing in front of him and trading. Mirko was inactive most of the fight. Al turk did not turn away until after the poke. The poke made all the difference. Mirko could have given a rematch out of decency. I am officially of a train I have been on since 2003.

by cyke on Jun 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said he was sorry the fight ended like that. What else should he have done?

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cain is coming out second? How does that work?

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

The Brown Pride tat...

really only bothers me because he claims that he wants to show Mexican kids that they can do something with their lives..because he didn’t see anyone when he was a kid. The fight sport world is kind of filled with great Mexican fighters…innit?

I mean…beyond that I could care less about the tattoo

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

It is highlighted nicely when you knock his ass out in Undisputed.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

What bothers me

is that he didn’t get a Mexican Pride tat instead. “Brown” kind of involves a lot of nationalities.

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh whatever, maybe he is looking farther than just Mexico.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that's also the point..

so it would represent all latinos, puerto ricans, mexicans..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing that bugs me is that he’s not all that brown! My white-lady wife is darker than him. :-)

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by jemaleddin on Jun 15, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rappers do the same thing. I always find it funny. “Hey kids you can do something with your life and be successful like me…if you have one in a million talent and one in a million luck (for the rappers)”

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

full of mexican fighters..

but no role models in the mainstream.. that was what he was pointing out.. all the celebs all the personalities aren’t mexican..

he wants to be a role model or a personality that mexican kids can look up to.. although that’s kinda hard for a fighter to do..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

but I mean….boxing is kind of filled to the gills with great Mexican role models and personalities

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i know..

but if youre kid growing up in the US, they really aren’t in the mainstream, unless your dad is a boxing fan.. (which i think he isn’t since he said he never saw any mexican role models)

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It bothers me because national pride is dumb and corrosive to societal progress.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not “national” pride, lul, we’re getting caught in the bad argument here.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Racial pride is equally as dumb and corrosive to societal progress.

What is he proud of? What did he accomplish? Nothing. He was born, that’s all.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what most americans don't understand is..

when youre coming from a country that is small.. (which is almost all countries in comparison to the super power), you get proud of every little thing that guys like from your place does..

 just like how people from small towns are proud of everyone that comes out of that town and makes it big..,

sure you didnt achieve anything, but being born there and representing your country makes you feel that pride/nationalism..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand why people feel that way. I just think the reasoning is hollow and pointless. It creates a needless us/them dichotomy that only serves to keep everyone further apart. Not just along national and racial lines, either.

Pride in anything should be reserved for things you accomplish.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's more of nationalism than pride.. but a mix of both..

if it was just pride.. i agree with you..

americans compared to other countries are less nationalistic than others cause naturally, that country is on the top of the food chain..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone gets to make their point on this topic

one time.
then you can stop.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop it Bruce. Your attempt at speaking German is going to laugh me into a coma.

Can’t Michael teach you?

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Davis really let me down.

by goodbones on Jun 13, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Kongo doesn’t like the way he is being treated.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

looking at them, its hard to understand how velasquez is ten pounds heavier.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW

Amazing recovery

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

It don’t work against someone who is you know… good.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kongo is exactly the type of HW cain will feed on in his career anyway

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

herring took him down at will..

i expected cain to do wayyyy better.. (just like what he’s doing now..)

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit. Those takedowns are amazing against a guy as big as Kongo.

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Cain will tire himself out. He was a fatty at one time.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain has great ground control

But I don’t see him being able to do this with the real big boys

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I give Kongo the round.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice thong, Kongo.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

...I did not need to see that

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Velasquez would take ED209 down.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Velasquez responded really well to getting rocked.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ridiculous recovery time

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kongos gameplan seems to be...

hurt Cain, then go to the ground and get beat on. :(

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Sean Sherk agrees with Kongo’s gameplanning.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re supposed to so….HI, my name is Sean Sherk and I endorse this game plan

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jun 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow that was a nice takedown

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Kongo needs to go to K1

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Just pathetic. He had the fight.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

What I kept saying leading up to this remains true

Cain was way overrated on the feet. Great wrestling though.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Then again, Congo is a great striker.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...true

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’s pretty good, but most HWs have shit head movement, which got Cain caught. He should go train with Randy.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kongo is waiting for round 3, he tries to KO valsquez at the begining of each rounds, World class gameplan.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

If he somehow gets past Cain he’s going to get Donkey Kongo’d by Lesnar

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

true to that…..and funny as hell

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch cain get ko’d in the start after all the work he did

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice try, but no.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

HE gassed on the takedown, short notice fight man.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

Didnt he take on 3 weeks notice or so.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

he could win this fight if he just kept it standing, so many times he took the fight to the ground himself. kongo fail for sure.

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kongo can been seen saying “HALP”

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fighter Awareness fail

definitely not in the game plan if you listen to Bisping.

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by achengy on Jun 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see RNC in Kongo’s future

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

here we go again…

by kovy on Jun 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Fucking rocks for brains. Horrible instincts. Just awful.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan is the worst ref. Soooo many shots to the back of the head and I haven’t even heard a warning

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

haha kongo is dumb.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Please don’t insult the fighters.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry. Kongo’s fight smarts are dumb.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Heath Herring do this to him?

Didn’t learn much from past experiences

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s why I picked Cain 6 ways past Sunday

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cain just proved tonight he is absolutely no threat to Brock Lesnar or Frank Mir.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I wasn’t impressed with either guy, honestly. But as Spectaa points out, Kongo took this on very short notice so I willing to cut him some slack here.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, I don’t see him threatening Carwin either, Carwin would have KTFO’d Kongo on the ground.

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

both these guys would get murdered by lesnar or mir

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Carwin too

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m feeling like a sad puppy right now.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Overrated or not

This guy only has 5 fights and he beat the guy who beat Cro Cop

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

True, has to improve his standup though

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate this card. It’s full of fail in every way just as I initially thought. I’m never changing my mind about anything ever again (unless Wandy wins).

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty impressed with Kongo’s toughness

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, that was hella boring. Both dudes looked B grade. Cain controlled well, thats it. Kongo…..nothing well.

by GeeDub on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Not boring, disappointing though.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt find that entertaining at all. Cain was never gonna finish the fight throwing the strikes he was and seemed oblivious to any opportunity for submissions. Once it was clear how the fight was gonna turn out I kinda lost interest.

by GeeDub on Jun 13, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

kongo should be working on his take down defense with page, but then again, page is no longer a wrestler.

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any coach would do, he is that bad on the ground.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why kongo kept clinching with cain after he landed a couple nice shots.

by Dropkick434 on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Where are the scores for the decisions?

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by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

30-26 or 30-25 wouldn't be a joke to me...

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

kind of reminds me of josh b not finishing his last fight

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I called it.

Where’s Supremacy so I can rub his face in this

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 13, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Boy...

Cain did not impress me. His wrestling is good and he is good at control. But he had a guy on short notice and he was mounted and had back control for like 90% of that fight and couldn’t finish? That’s scary to me.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Different strokes, I guess – he just dominated Cheick Kongo for three rounds. Color me impressed.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's impressive that he won...

and was dominant. But he got hurt over and over and didn’t look good at anything other than “control”

He’s young and could still be great, I just expected a bit more from him.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

for a 6-0 fighter, that's pretty good..

for the amount of hype and marketing they gave.. not even close..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He impressed me with his control, but I think we should all take a breath and remember he has had 6 fights. Obviously, he has a lot of improvement to make in JJ and in finishing.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was Barnett/Yvel 2.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kong has only been finished once in his life. He’s granite. I’m impressed by Cain. He’s going to be a supersta!

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just give him a little more time, I think this fight will teach him a lot.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how great Cain’s wrestling is. It’s obviously very good, but it’s not at an unreal level. I don’t think he would easily take down guys like Randy, Brock, and Carwin. At that point, he needs to improve his kickboxing bigtime.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think he can do that at AKA? I’m really not impressed by their kickboxing, as a team.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s true, their striking at that camp isn’t that impressive.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets remember, Fedor was getting rocked by Fujita at the same age Velasquez is now. Velasquez is top ten quality at a very young age.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

fujita got a ONE nice clean shot on fedor

not the same if you ask me.kongo was clearly owning him on the stand up

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fujita ain’t anything special on the feet either.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

um…fedor got rocked and then proceeded to destroy Fujita….cain did no such thing

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again. . . FUJITA. Fujita ain’t no Kongo.

HW competition sucked back then.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was all set to dislike Cain but he was very humble in his post fight interview sayng he has a lot to learn and thanking Kongo for taking the fight on short notice. Very classy,

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I will like MMA less if Wandy loses. I can’t deal with his potential demise.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

ufc4 where are you?

Walla walla walla someone’s an idiot. :P

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the reason I spend my saturday in front of the PC, WAR WANDY!

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy War Wagon

Who’s on?

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I have been on the Wand Wagon forever! Never getting off, either

WAR WANDY!

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

DISCO MURDER BABY!!!

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Jun 13, 2009 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

A german friend told me they have UFC99 for free on TV, cool.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but 2 hrs delayed, aaaaand with german commentators, and they are horrible, bruce buffer would do a better job, in german

by kovy on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAAAAAAAAAANDSTOOORM!

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

VAT?

wandy is coming out first?

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude has only won once in the UFC, going against a former champ…

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I can see your point, but it’s still the axe murderer lol

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick! Someone explain the word “irony” to Mike “Alanis” Goldberg.

It isn’t ironic that Kongo beat Cro Cop and Al Turk. It isn’t ironic that Dan Henderson has beat Silva and lands more power shots.

Ugh.

by jacksiwel on Jun 13, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That was pretty cringe-worthy on Goldy’s behalf.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cypress Hill? Huh, I guess it works.

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a thought on Cain vs. Carwin—both fought guys on a similar level at heavyweight, and their performances were pretty opposite. Carwin got dominated until he crushed Gonzaga with a powerful right hand, suggesting his game has tons of holes but he has insane finishing ability. Cain, on the other hand, had holes exposed as well but dominated for 15 minutes and would undoubtedly win this fight 9 out of 10 times. Carwin against Gonzaga…I think its more like 5 out of 10.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

but the finishing ability of Carwin is going to make him way more marketable

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Velasquez will probably develop more finishing ability. Its easy to forget he’s had maybe 3 years of striking training.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I hope this fight delivers. This card has been “bleh”.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Stop it, Bruce. Right now. Stop it.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve enjoyed the card besides Uno-Fisher. I thought the last fight was pretty interesting.

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

me too..

the swick fight started out really boring though.

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy by being himself

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

if you look at his body, wand looks younger compared to his last fight.. but his face looks older..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

They guy spars at full power without headgear 4x a week. It only makes sense that his face looks like the bottom of a shoe.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Franklin gets Jardine'd

I’m going to be excited and little sad

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

i’d be both happy and sad on either outcome..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its either very good or very bad if you get a verb named after you in MMA.

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wands fighting smarter now..

rich is trying to bait him in, but he isn’t biting..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Wand Plan:
R1 Feel out victim
R2 Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want both guys to win, hard to pick one I like better

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Wand looks more explosive at this weight.

by Sokonojudo on Jun 13, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Wand is going back to his haymaker

He’s reverting back to his predictable self in the heat of battle…going to get KTFO

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

i have the same feeling..

unless he lands a power shot i think franklin will KO him..

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wand is the sloppiest boxer ever.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate this. Absolutely hate.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

you’re just full of positive things tonight aren’t you

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite fighter just got his nose broken and looked horrible at the end of the round.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think MMA is for you

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, I’ll take up knitting.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just woke up in the morning for this. Has it been a good card so far?

by Tonley on Jun 13, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Wandy is cool as hell…..he’s had a hard fighting life though. I think it might be catching up to him

by soadtrails on Jun 13, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t brawl with him Rich

by Tonley on Jun 13, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Great round!

Hard to score that one… I say a draw.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

God I love Wandy.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Those guys are taking heavy damage.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Man I don’t know who is winning so far.

by Foxskinrug on Jun 13, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Rogan’s hugging Wand’s nuts.

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad it’s 3 round.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t see the first round but I think Rich won rounds 2 and 3.

by Tonley on Jun 13, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough fight to score...

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

They won't

They sell this as a “many believe he should have won” and try to get Silva vs Silva

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was supposed to be to Orcus below.

by mythbuster on Jun 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

I really hope dana doesn’t cut wandy.

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wandy is cut proof.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

me 2

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Jun 13, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

29-28 Franklin, my guess

Hey, I guess i was right!

by Tizoc on Jun 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh…I don’t know.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I love Wandy. True warrior.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I like them both

So I dont’ care who wins

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Franklin won

Stream broke so I don’t know what the score was

by cyph on Jun 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

wand with the iron balls of the night, i loved that fight, wow

by kovy on Jun 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

They are REALLY pushing this as a new weight class.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

While I love

the fight, this fight does ZERO for rankings and title picture.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not in your opinion, but this fight will impact the rankings and the title picture.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
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by Richard Wade on Jun 13, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine in some circumstances.

How much longer is Rich going to fight? He can’t beat Anderson. How many fights would it take him to get a title shot in 205? What else are you going to do with him? Just give him fights that he can make some money and are entertaining for fans. That’s what this is, and that’s why it’s good.

by Phildo on Jun 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I came late, but wow, Kongos ground game is a step below terrible.

Great night of fights however.

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

I had Wand winning that fight. I thought it was a bad decision.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Takedown at the end of the 3rd cost him imo.

by Riney on Jun 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is I don't see how it's a unanimous decision.

Franklin was clearly rocked in round 2 and before the takedown in round 3 he caught him on a slip.

Oh well, Wanderlei’s big downfall is his wild boxing. His Detroit Lions-esque defense probably lost him the fight.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is I don’t see how it’s a unanimous decision

Because all three judges agreed on who won?

by Tonley on Jun 13, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

^this

Sometimes I feel like people don’t understand how that works.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jun 13, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I meant I don’t see how all three judges could agree that Franklin won. I totally disagree with that.

I was thinking it would be a split to Wanderlei.

Andy Reid is the only coach in NFL history that uses the pass to set up the pass.

by SSreporters on Jun 13, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why the split, though? What about that fight makes you think that it’s unusual for the three judges at ringside to see the fight the same?

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Jun 13, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the biggest wandy fan

and unfortunately he really did lose it. this blows!

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your opinion will sure be shared by others and help them market a title fight with A. Silva

by Mocha Shaka Khan on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

I want wandy to stay active, and in the UFC!

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

me 2

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Jun 13, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man really close. but the cut might have got to Wandy

I had Wandy for Round 2 and I think he slightly edged Round 3.

Good fight.

Food goes in here

by Pandanus on Jun 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah,

if he cut 12 pounds yesterday like rogan said, than this really affected him, but than again, it would have been wandy’s fault for not cutting right.

by Orcus on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Wandy speaks they need subtitles in two languages.

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I just pretend every sentence he speaks is “I love my fans, thank you”. Which may not be too far off from what he’s actually saying.

by a tommy point on Jun 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to smash some fool with Wandy on Undisputed.

I have K-1 level jiu-jitsu.

by ronniebonnie on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m going to defend on the ground with cheick kongo.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I play as Kampmann in exhibition against Hughes the one time i played and anytime he took me down I try to secure a kimura and he’d just stand up and I’d keep left-right hooks + body kick over and over and he dropped after 30 seconds.

Great game.

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed the fight. Great heart from Wand, I scored it for Rich, but fuck, who can tell Wanderlei Silva to retire when he loves what he’s doing and stays super competitive with a giuy like Rich Franklin?

by Michael Rome on Jun 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The crowd loves it, the fans love it too.

by spectaa on Jun 13, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am just really happy Wandy did not take too much damage.

He always takes so much abuse with his style and complete lack of head movement.

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what sucks???

i missed the last two minutes of the fight!

my wifi died.. and i had to reset it but it was too late.. :((

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude it was crazy, you have no idea.

No idea.

None.

Zero!

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullshit..

i stayed up till 6am only to miss the last two minutes.. FUCKKKKQ@U#^*!&%#$!!!

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 13, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad because: Wandy lost
Happy because: Wandy didn’t get suffer another brain rattling KO, and had a good showing

Keep firing Assholes!

Out out, you demons of stupidity!

by Ubernoober on Jun 13, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhhhh not even one undercard fight, where was all that blood from?

Or can we not discuss undercards yet?

by DirtyML on Jun 13, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Al-Turk is back

He’s game, but he’s getting screwed by being thrown to the wolves constantly.

Food goes in here

by Pandanus on Jun 13, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

He shouldn’t be cut because of an eye poke the ref didn’t notice.

by Derek Suboticki on Jun 13, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cut big Dan?

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 13, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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