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Gambling Spotlight: UFC 99 Main Card

My family used to make me, my brother, and my cousin put on lederhosen so they could take pictures of us that they would use later to embarrass us in front of future wives and girlfriends.  What does this have to do with UFC 99?  Nothing, though it provides a nice segue to reminding you that UFC 99 starts at 3 PM ET/12 PM PT and you should get your bets in accordingly.  There's a good bit of value on this card.

Whip up some sauerkraut, put on the leather pants, and pick up some Bavarian brews this Saturday and get in the German spirit. 

Rich Franklin

#14 Light Heavyweight
#16 Middleweight
Former UFC MW Champ

vs.

Wanderlei Silva

#7 Light Heavyweight
Former Pride MW Champ

2003 Pride MWGP Champ

-140 (5DIMES/BOOKMAKER) Best Line +120 (5DIMES)
34 Age 32
6'1" Height 5'11"
24 - 4 - 0, 1 NC Record 32 - 9 - 1, 1 NC
13 / 9 TKO / SUB 22 / 4
AMC Pankration Camp Wand Fight Team
L - Henderson (SD)
W - Hamill (TKO)
W- Lutter (TKO)
Last 3 Fights L - Jackson (KO)
W - Jardine (KO)
L - Liddell (UD)

It's been awhile since I've been this flummoxed over a line.  I'll start off by saying I have a unit-plus play on Franklin at -130 on the advice of people who's opinion I respect.  That said, I have a nagging notion in the back of my head that won't go away.

Wanderlei Silva's skills have seemed to diminish faster than David Ortiz without his 'roid cocktail.  He's noticably more plodding, less explosive, and seems to have lost the wolverine instinct that endeared him to the hearts of many lonely MMA fans during his run in Pride.  His frame appears much more blocky and compact than the lean (clean?) killing machine back in that heyday.

Rich Franklin, on the other hand, is coming off a razor-thin split decision that he believes he won.  Scoring objections aside, Rich has looked effective in his move to 205.  At the same time, Franklin reminds me of Keith Jardine when it comes to throwing awkward strikes.  Nothing looks like it comes naturally for Franklin, especially compared to someone like Mirko Filipovic, who throws each and every strike with an aesthetically pleasing fluidity.

The most common breakdown I've seen of this fight is that Silva's old and broken down, Franklin's in better physical condition, and he'll outpoint Wanderlei to a decision victory.

But I have some nagging suspicions.  One, Wanderlei Silva's downfall is a tad overstated.  Quinton Jackson knocked him into another dimension, but Quinton Jackson is a top 3 205er with serious KO power.  He lost to Chuck Liddell, but he was very competitive in that fight up until Chuck landed that spinning back fist.  (FightMetric had Chuck and Wandy splitting rounds 1 and 2 respectfully and convincingly.)  Same thing in the Henderson fight.  Competitive up until the KO.  And of course he steamrolled Keith Jardine at UFC 84.

Two, I can't get the memory of Anderson Silva's rhinoplasty jobs on Rich Franklin out of my head.  I'm not even sure how much of Franklin's problems with Anderson and the clinch rest on a technical malfunction or whether Rich has issues with being overwhelmed.

Likewise, any self-respecting MMA fan has the image of Wanderlei gently laying Rampage's unconscious body through the ropes in Pride burned into their subconscious.  At the same time, Silva's shown little preference for the clinch in any of his last four fights, so it might be a moot point all together.

Lastly, does Franklin have the power to knock out Wanderlei?  He's shown he has the physical tools to do it when he KO'd Nate Quarry, but Quarry was even more plodding than the current incarnation of Silva.  If I felt more certain that Franklin has the capability of landing a knockout or knockdown blow on the Brazilian, I'd feel that much more comfortable with my side.

So even though my gut tells me we'll see a Wanderlei Silva unafraid to pressure forward and unload, my head and the the heads of others tell me that the days of a dominating Axe Murderer are long past.  With my wishy-washy analysis, I can't in good faith recommend a bet on Franklin, but if you're blindly following my plays, hit him up.

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Star-divide

Cain Velasquez

#19 Heavyweight

vs.

Cheick Kongo

#12 Heavyweight

-175 (5DIMES) Best Line +165 (BOOKMAKER)
25 Age 34
6'1" Height 6'4"
5 - 0 - 0 Record 14 - 4 - 1
5 / 0 TKO / SUB 9 / 2
American Kickboxing Academy Camp Wolfslair MMA
W - Stojnic (TKO)
W - O'Brien (TKO)
W - Morris (TKO)
Last 3 Fights W - Hardonk (TKO)
W - Al-Turk (TKO)
W - Evensen (TKO)




I'm sure the MMA media will wax analytic about this being a "big step up for Cain Velasquez" and how his "chin hasn't been tested like it will in this fight."  We might hear about Kongo's penchant for "improving every fight." (I don't see it.)

Let's break it down though.  Outside of nutshotting Mirko Filipovic, Cheick Kongo hasn't beat anyone of note in the UFC.  Carmelo Marrero outlasted him in a decision and he looked atrocious in his split decision loss to Heath Herring (despite which, is a fight I still believe he won).

In addition, while Kongo's known for being a kickboxer, he routinely works a grinding clinch game along the fence.

None of this meshes well with the skill set of Velasquez.  He may not have the size of Brock Lesnar, but Cain is legitimate heavyweight, is quick and athletic for the division, and has a serious wrestling game.  I don't foresee Kongo controlling Cain in the clinch (or even catching him in it for that matter) and his standup isn't fast or dynamic enough to batter Velasquez at a distance.

I also expect Velasquez will have no trouble dictating where the fight takes place.  Given the style matchup and Kongo's impotence on the floor, we should see Velasquez effectively mix up is striking and wrestling, put Kongo on his back, and control the fight on top.

If you can still hit Velasquez at -170/-180, I like a fairly sizable play on Cain.  Otherwise, I recommend a small play up to -250.

Mike Swick

#9 Welterweight

vs.

Ben Saunders

-215 (BODOG) Best Line +190 (BOOKMAKER)
29 Age 26
6'1" Height 6'3"
13 - 2 - 0 Record 7 - 0 - 2
5 / 2 TKO / SUB 3 / 3
American Kickboxing Academy Camp American Top Team
W - Goulet (KO)
W - Davis (UD)
W - Burkman (MD)
Last 3 Fights W - Wolff (TKO)
W - Thomas (SUB)
W - Barrera (UD)




Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

It's nice the UFC's giving us six guaranteed fights instead of the usual five, but let's be honest: Saunders hasn't done anything to deserve a main card slot and Swick doesn't have the name to draw against a guy like Saunders.  All of this makes the attention this fight got on the Countdown show even more of a mystery to me.

That said, this is Swick's fight to lose.  After a rough transition from 185 to 170 against Josh Burkman, he looked much more effective against Marcus Davis and ran roughshod on Jonathon Goulet.  As for Saunders, it's hard to accurately gauge his worth.  He certainly didn't look impressive during his time on TUF, but he's undefeated in sanctioned UFC bouts and tenderized Brandon Wolff's skull at the Fight for the Troops event in December.

Because of that fight, I think Saunders is being overvalued here.  He's not going to be able to repeat that performance against Swick.  I like Swick for a solid play here.

Marcus Davis

#16 Welterweight

vs.

Dan Hardy

#20 Welterweight

-210 (5DIMES) Best Line +180 (BOOKMAKER)
35 Age 27
5'10" Height 6'0"
16 - 4 - 0 Record 21 - 6 - 0
5 / 8 TKO / SUB 11 / 4
Team Sityodtong Camp Rough House Gym
W - Lytle (SD)
W - Kelly (SUB)
L - Swick (UD)
Last 3 Fights W - Markham (KO)
W - Gono (SD)
W - Weichel (TKO)




So, Marcus Davis has trouble dealing with Mike Swick height and reach, almost gets KO'd by Paul Taylor, and scrapes by a victory against a Chris Lytle fighting anti-strategicly and he's chalked up as a 2-1 favorite over a taller, rangier, and competent Dan Hardy?

Certainly, Hardy still has some polish left.  Akihiro Gono exposed some striking holes in his defeat.  But he should still have enough for a guy like Marcus, who while one of the more technical boxers in the UFC, has shown he isn't immune to brawling at points.

I figured the line would open more at Davis -150/Hardy +120, so I think there's some good value here.  Take a multi-unit play on Hardy.

Spencer Fisher

#24 Lightweight

vs.

Caol Uno

#22 Lightweight

-200 (5DIMES) Best Line +170 (CONSENSUS)
33 Age 34
5'7" Height 5'7"
22 - 4 - 0 Record 25 - 11 - 4
11 / 8 TKO / SUB 2 / 13
Miletich Fighting Systems Camp Wajyutsu Keisyukai Tokyo
W - Gugerty (SUB)
W - Stephens (UD)
L - Edgar (UD)
Last 3 Fights L - Aoki (UD)
W - Ishida (SUB)
L - Amade (UD)




At UFC 78, Spencer Fisher lost a relatively one-sided decision to Frank Edgar.  At UFC 99, Fisher squares off with a comparable talent in Caol Uno.  Edgar's better in the standup (and how much better the UFC 78 version was compared to Uno is debatable), Uno has the edge in submission grappling, and they have similar wrestling chops.

With that in mind, I'm not sure why Fisher's such a heavy favorite.  This is another fight where I expected the line to be much closer to even, and it shocked me to see Uno open as a near 2-1 underdog.  However, unlike Bisping opening at +300 against Henderson or Anderson Silva opening at -275 against Leites, I'm not as confident in my handicap on this play and I don't plan on unloading like I usually would on a line I think is way off.

Still, I think Uno's worth a unit or two here.  The biggest concern is Fisher's power and Uno's chin may team up for a very painful dance of doom.  However, I expect Uno to take Fisher down, control him on top, and take a decision.

Mirko Filipovic

#14 Heavyweight

vs.

Mustapha Al-Turk

-400 (BOOKMAKER) Best Line +335 (5DIMES)
34 Age 35
6'2" Height 6'2"
24 - 6 - 2, 1 NC Record 6 - 4 - 0
18 / 3 TKO / SUB 4 / 2
Cro Cop Squad Camp London Shootfighters
W - Choi (TKO)
NC - Overeem
W - Mizuno (TKO)
Last 3 Fights L - Kongo (TKO)
W - McSweeney (TKO)
W - Turner (SUB)




I'm not going to devote too much space to this one.  I want to play Cro Cop here, and I might have to if the line dips down near -350.  Yes, Cro Cop's had trouble in the cage; and, yes, Cro Cop hasn't shown as much against legitimate competition.  But Al-Turk is more Eddie Sanchez than Alistair Overeem.  Cro Cop's intimidating mystique may be null and void, but he should still handle guys like Al-Turk.

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off topic, but

the affliction 3 teaser is out!

and about franklin vs silva.. Im picking franklin cause i think he has the tools to pick apart wand standing… but im worried cause i also said that about profX vs mcfedries and arlovski vs. rogers.

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 11, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Dana’s new vlog?

by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, post the pics Mike!!!!

Shit, sorry Mike, thought Leland wrote this.

by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What pics do you want?

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My family used to make me, my brother, and my cousin put on lederhosen so they could take pictures of us that they would use later to embarrass us in front of future wives and girlfriends

by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha. My mom has then, and I’m 2000 miles away.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She has internet, no?

by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, it’s not happening, sorry. :)

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you just don’t want to post them, I get it.

by ufc4 on Jun 11, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, if I had access, I totally would. I have zero issues embarrassing myself.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The comments are fcked up again..

I said: yet you deleted your post

Tsk tsk… ;)

(some how it got deleted ruining the entire joke..)

by Anton Tabuena on Jun 12, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hah

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 12, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

…Chuck landed that spinning back fist.

Do you know how weird it is to read that?

I think the longer the main event lasts, the likelier Franklin wins. He has good cardio, and the more confidence he has against Silva, the better, especially if Wandy doesn’t unleash knees like the other Silva did. If Wandy can swarm him early, he can win it, but that’s risky because he could expend his energy too soon trying to finish, letting the methodical Franklin batter him to a UD.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Jun 11, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that assessment.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with everything but the Davis/Hardy assessment.

http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com

by Beer Monster on Jun 11, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you think DAVIS has too much technical striking for HARDY?

:)

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where’d my response go?

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by Beer Monster on Jun 11, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I deleted a very bad typo, affecting whatever posts were underneath. I only saw weoweoweo’s so if you got caught in the line of fire, my apologies.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 11, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot what I said now! : ) It had something to do with Davis having good striking defense, Hardy getting frustrated early and getting off his game, and Davis knowing how to win rounds from UFC judges a lot better than Hardy. I’ve got Davis by decision.

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by Beer Monster on Jun 11, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, this fight will give us a good idea as to how good Hardy’s striking really is when it comes to withstanding some decent technical boxing from Davis along with power. Davis tends to get wild, but he showed some good control during the Lytle fight and stuck to his gameplan.

Trying to figure it out at this point is a bit overkill. We won’t know until they step into the cage, but I think this fight will gauge where both guys are in terms of striking. My thought is that Davis is about where he was before, but Hardy is the mystery. Can he catch Davis if Davis implements a quick in and out gameplan? It’ll be interesting.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your seriously underestimating Fisher, and giving a faded Uno way too much credit.

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on Jun 11, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask Mitsuhiro Ishida about the “faded” Uno.

Uno still has WAY better technical ground tactics than a lot of fighters. Fisher could make one mistake and Uno could be all over his back in no time. Fisher has the edge here, but I’m just saying… faded is a bit over the top. He’s declined a bit because of age, but faded completely… no.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s still dangerous, sure, but Fisher is no rookie. He’s always impressed me with his heart and adaptability, and I see him wearing out Uno on the feet.

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on Jun 12, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering they’re nearly the same age and haven’t looked like they’re heading in opposite directions recently (honestly, does anyone think that Fisher wouldn’t have lost to Aoki?), how is Uno “faded” but Fisher gets props for being “no rookie”? I see these two as being at a very similar place in their skills sets.

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by AJB on Jun 12, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My only beef is the faded comment. Fisher is no rookie, and he’s definitely formidable, but Uno has the ability to consistently cause danger on the floor, even in the third round while tired.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll have to admit, this might be the first time that I largely disagree with your assessment, which probably spells more trouble for me than you. :-)

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Jun 11, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I usually dont bet but this time I’m putting $100 on Franklin, mainly to cheer me up a bit if Wandy gets KO’d again :(

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by Brad Ackerson on Jun 12, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I put down all my moolah on Crazy Cuban.

How taste my pee pee pee? LIKE WIN!!! Thank you Machida!

by IHateMMA on Jun 12, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I expect Davis to have little more success than the people trying to comment on Fagan’s typos.

I dislike Matt Hughes.

by MonkeyCHops on Jun 12, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haha, well done.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 12, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a parlay

on Franklin, Davis, and Cain would be a winner according to my magic 8 ball.

Wand has faded and isn’t the same. Rich is still at the top of his game though in my eyes.

Hardy is being overrated in my opinion. He’s not that good. Davis will take him to another decision.

If Kongo lost to Herring due to wrestling, imagine what Cain is going to do to his ass. That’s right. Totally pillaging of the rear end.

by virginiatech on Jun 12, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think it’s overrating hardy so much as it’s thinking davis just isn’t that good either

by yngjzy on Jun 12, 2009 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Betting Cain very hard, also strong on Hardy and Franklin.

Hardy/Cain parlay as well.

Pretty much agree w what he says except I’d stay away from Swick at that price.

(and on the undercard i think Struve has some value)

by Gerrymanderer on Jun 12, 2009 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re going to bet Hardy and Cain, you should probably add a third fight to that parlay for maximum output. Struve may be a solid addition as he’s a very low line.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thing with Struve is he doesn’t like brawlers with power who get inside his length and push him hard. And Stojnic has the chin to just wade on in. Wonder if Struve would try and take the fight to the ground, but I have no idea what his wrestling is like. I just don’t feel like I know enough about the fighters involved to make any kind of intelligent play there.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Struve’s strength is the ground. He should change levels when Stojnic gets aggressive and take him down.

Of course, not all bets are a LOCK. Hague vs. Barry was a prime example. Barry should have leg kicked Hague to death if he had done even an ounce of research, but he didn’t, and he didn’t work his strengths.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And even then he had Hague rocked, which must eat at Barry…

My concern with Struve is honestly that he didn’t look at all like he knew how to deal with dos Santos’ aggression. He didn’t try to clinch, he didn’t try to cricle off the cage, he didn’t try for a take down; he just started trying to wing punches from a distance (that is, in tight with his back up to the cage) that really favoured Junior. His skills shouldn’t be in question; he’s obviously a talent. But his decision making scares me.

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by AJB on Jun 12, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see how you can badmouth Kongo’s opponents and not say anything about Cain’s. I think the step-up in competition (along with Kongo’s reach) will be too much for Cain.

by Pantherhare on Jun 12, 2009 2:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless Cain has particularly sensitive balls I think he dominates.

I dislike Matt Hughes.

by MonkeyCHops on Jun 12, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

i would love to see a reporter inquire about that at a press conference.

by fuzzy wuzzy on Jun 12, 2009 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

youve waaaaay over played the supposed height advantage that hardy has over davis. ive met him in person before and i can tell you he’s around 5’7/5’8. not 6ft lol. going to be a good fight but hardy wont be able to keep him on the outside with his reach.

by Marcus213 on Jun 12, 2009 7:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dang, I like Wand, Kongo and Killa Bee…

I read a day or two ago over at Cagewriter that they are +2700 on their recommended plays – 45 bets (36-9). This up to UFC 98.

by bigweeze on Jun 12, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-99-picks-Vegas-style-There-is-no-loyalty?urn=mma,169602

Cagewriter looks to continue the roll from UFC 98 where we turned in a 5-0 and +660 on our recommended plays. That makes it 36-9 and +2670 dating back to September (UFC 88, UFN 15, UFC 89, UFC 90, UFC 91, TUF 8, UFC 92, UFC 93, Affliction 2, UFC 94, UFN 17, UFC 95, Strikeforce 14, UFC 96, UFN 18, UFC 97, UFC 98).

by bigweeze on Jun 12, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were also a few events in there in which Cofield should have PARLAYED LIKE A MADMAN. Also, I’d like to know how the 9 losses affected their bankroll.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looking over my picks, this really doesn’t mean a whole lot because risks on parlays and risks on underdogs affect your overall outcome. Statistically, you would have made money on CW’s picks, but how much?

I’m currently 59-36 over the last 15 events which includes Sengoku, DREAM, Bellator, and all the UFC events since Sengoku VII. While it isn’t great, I only lost money on MFC 21.

Furthermore, parlays played a huge hand in increasing my bankroll. Specifically, Sengoku VII paid out for Kanehara, Sandro as a parlay along with single bets on Hioki, Kanehara, Sandro, Nedkov. Warren’s huge win at DREAM 9 was unreal. My epic “lucky” bet on Yoshida via thegreek.com at the OPPOSITE line of +365 was huge. Small underdog bet on Rogers helped out, Bellator cards have been more than kind, with Cruz, Good, Lapsley parlay at Bellator VII.

DREAM 8, High, Zaromskis, Galvao, with a max bet on Galvao as well. Bellator I was Reyes, Soto, Imada parlay. Smith single bet helped at Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Shamrock.

UFN 18 was my bread and butter so far this year. I went 7-1 on bets with a huge parlay payout from Simpson, Credeur, Tibau, Miller. Also bet Kampmann, although I was shitting my pants. Kimmons, Almeida. Sengoku VII, Kanehara, Jung, Denis parlay plus York single bet.

I have nearly quadrupled my bankroll in less than six months, but taking losses along with smartly moving along with parlays and big bets works out well, even if you lose some money. The parlays are truly my key. It’s risky as hell though. I know Fagan doesn’t necessarily like to parlay.

Another tip: Oddsmakers still suffer on Japanese cards. CW should take advantage and up that percentage.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, you put way more thought than I ever could into betting. I don’t gamble because I always seem to lose and I honestly chalked it up for a long time to piss poor luck. But there’s a strategy behind it that just goes over my head.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only “strategy” is finding where the value’s at. It’s as simple (and complicated) as that.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 12, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fagan’s right. It really comes down to finding value. Hence why my record is fairly poor to the untrained eye. Sure, I have a lot of losses, but that’s because I was betting on underdogs that I hoped could come through. A lot of parlays as well. But in the end, I come out on top in most events because other parlays plus solid odds on sure winners bring me out on top. I might only win 50-100 on a card, but other cards can be upwards of 10k. Just depends.

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by Leland Roling on Jun 13, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Cagewriter picking Wand, Kongo and Killa Bee? If so, they’re about to plunge in their batting average. I like Franklin, Swick, Cain.

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on Jun 12, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Jun 12, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concussions....

Wandy HAS been BRUTALLY KTFO in the last little while and once you get KO’d hard, your more suceptible (sp?) to it. I’m not saying his chin is glass, but its definatly taken a beating in the last little bit…. Love both guys, but im going on Franklin due to the severety of KOs they’ve each gotten.

by Annie83 on Jun 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s definitely a very fair statement.

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by Mike Fagan on Jun 12, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wand and Kongo were close to finishing but didn’t have enough gas, shame because that was the difference for me.

Swick whupped Saunders but I came out -15 in all thanks to Cro Cop and Hardy.

by bigweeze on Jun 13, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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What if: Dan Gable would have been a fighter?
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UFC vs. Boxing PPV dilemma (May 1, 2010 edition)
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Dan Hardy: "Josh Koscheck Is Like A Piece of S*** That Just Won't Flush."
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What if Kimbo beats Houston Alexander?
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Kim Couture (10K) top earner at Strikeforce Challengers V
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Josh Burkman KO's Brandon Melendez at Throwdown Showdown V

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