Shaquille Oneal vs Chuck Liddell?
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
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Did anyone watch ESPN First Take this morning? John Burke of Gracie Orlando was on talking to Dana about how he trains Shaq in mixed martial arts, traditional boxing, jiu jitsu, etc.
They talked for a few minutes about what problems training such a big guy presents, what kind of training they do with him, how he does, etc, then they asked Burke how Shaq would do against Chuck Liddell, to which Burke responded with something along the lines of "Stay tuned." She went on again and then later asked what are the chances of seeing Shaq in the Octagon with Chuck, and Burke again responded with something like "Stay tuned."
I certainly can't imagine that this would ever actually happen, but what do you think he might actually be hinting at, if anything? I thought it was interesting if nothing else and thought I'd share and ask if anyone else saw the segment?
Edit: Just found the video.
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I saw it. Dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on May 6, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, Fedor must have really lost his luster if the 300+ lbs. non-MMA athletes are now calling out Chuck Liddell.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on May 6, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Calling out Chuck but will probably end up with Bob Sapp in the end, black on black goofy crime.
by who me on May 6, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
vs.
Now that would be a fight people could get behind.
by who me on May 6, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent.
Maybe a second bracket of DREAM’s MONSTER GP will take place with Chuck and Shaq on it.
Dana White will once again throw down 250k on his boy and once again Dana White will lose 250k.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, please include Butterbean, Zuluzinho, Don Frye, and Melvin Manhoef. That’s all I want. If we are going to provide a freakshow tournament, let’s do this.
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by Leland Roling on May 6, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive got shaq
Over Zulu and maybe Butterbean
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by troy145 on May 6, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think Zulu would submit Shaq…and Butterbean submitted Zulu…and Ikuhisa Minowa beat Butterbean…but Zulu beat Minowa…so…Shaq via tilt-a-whirl back breaker.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Shaq would KO Zulu and could outpoint Butterbean.
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by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wha?
Dude, Shaq is a basketball player. He’s got bad knees, has a history of abdominal, back, leg and foot injuries, is 37 and is painfully slow. He trains some MMA recreationally. You think just because he’s a big boy he can win MMA fights? His trainer was fluffing him. He’s probably paying him major bucks to train him privately.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on May 6, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to set your sensors from deadly serious to sarcasm.
by who me on May 6, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit, it’s Steel!
Keep being grumpy, Blackout, you piss off these people’s creativity and bring it out of the woodwork to apply salve to your anger
by subo on May 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You bring up some interesting points.
It would all be dependent upon Shaq’s take down defense if he fought Zulu. Then we would have to look at Shaq’s ground game, which honestly, up until this point, we haven’t see a lot of. So there’s a huge question mark hovering over Shaq.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq's Jiu Jitsu:
http://www.shaqtube.tv/video/278843-fight-video-edited-by-john-burke-of-gracie-orlando.html
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This changes everything.
Shaq would dominate Zulu and Butterbean.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
A guy like shaq couldve probably succeeded at just about any sport he wanted to, a la Dwight Howard or Lebron. If a fight was ever going to happen, and Shaq committed to it, I think he’d beat them. Its not like Butterbean and Zulu are lightning fast competitors. Shaq is slow in basketball terms but thats because basketball is one of the fastest mainstream sports around.
Throw in some stupid ridiculous reach with shaq being 7’1 to zulus 6’7, butterbeans 5’11… 10 years training even super sparingly makes most people at least a blue belt…
I dont think its super ridiculous, especially considering I lol’d.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like some good ol' MMAth
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by Leland Roling on May 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this serious? Shaq vs. Chuck Liddell? Holy shit, now I want Dana to be horrificly assholish on air.
“Are you fucking kidding me!? That isn’t happening… ever!”
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by Leland Roling on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
I think it will be a gag. Shaq is a big goofball and if he can spend 20 minutes with Chuck they’ll make some kind of YouTube internet meme.
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by troy145 on May 6, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Nothing will come of this. It was totally hypothetical. Shit like this happens all the time..
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on May 6, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like they invited Chuck to their gym for the same type of “sparring” matchup he did in those videos.
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by Leland Roling on May 6, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I took out of it. The way he was talking and the way she randomly pulled out Chuck made it seem like the video or whatever the hell they’re doing is already done.
Jacobson isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I don’t think anyone around ESPN will forget that they had Brock floating around to promote the Randy fight, so if she was just going to randomly pull out a fighter, she would have picked Brock (or someone who’s name she could pronounce).
This whole thing is a bit.
by Phildo on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His walking around weight is 325...
…but I can see him making it. What does his collegiate wrestling credentials look like? If he’s used to making the 60 lb. cut I can see him making it for this fight.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
in the swamps of louisianna they just wrestled Gators so you needed the extra weight to keep em down
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d complain about you stereotyping us Cajuns, but I did know people in high school who would use a pirogue to get around our outdoor campus when it flooded. And I have some insane stories from the boucheries we used to have. So yeah…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on May 6, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you follow the NBA? It is no exaggeration to say that Shaq’s work ethic and refusal to keep his weight down has cost his teams championships.
by Jahbulon on May 6, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just wondering is Shaq were 3 time NCAA All-American wrestling champ.
by AnonymousA on May 6, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Kobe. Shaq is still lazy though.
by Jahbulon on May 6, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motherfucker has four rings. Not a lot of people with four rings (unless you’re a Spur).
by subo on May 6, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always root for talented lazy people like Shaq and BJ Penn over hard workers like Sherk and Kobe. (not that Kobe doesn’t have incredible talent)
by Jahbulon on May 6, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kobe is in the playoff’s on the West favorite squad.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on May 6, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic FTW
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by troy145 on May 6, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That team almost looks better when Howard’s on the bench.
by subo on May 6, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont let it fool you.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From a Wolves fan, to you both
Cleveland wins.
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by Blackout612 on May 6, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shaq is good people
and John Burke’s got a real good school.
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's my opinion:
Shaquille Oneal and Johnathon Burke are effin awesome.
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by troy145 on May 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What if Shaq was serious about fighting in MMA? A new division would have to be created, but who would be some serious opponents besides Brock Lesnar?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
by lovingmma25 on May 7, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Half the guys in the Super Hulk. They already have a division, the super-heavyweight (unless you are thinking they should start a celebrity MMA division). Heck I’d be happier to see Shaq instead of Conseco vs HMC.
by who me on May 7, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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