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The Week in Quotes: May 24th - 30th

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A BIGGER DOUCHEBAG THAN THE GUY WITH THE POPPED COLLAR AND SUNGLASSES INDOORS

"It’s just one of those moments where – you know I lost two fights in a row, and I was in a state where I told myself, ‘There’s no way I can lose this fight.’" - Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, explaining his refusal to stop pounding Jan Nortje after the referee stepped in.  (MMA Junkie)

"I got [Nortje] on the ground, just like I thought I would do, and I was pounding and I didn’t want to stop. But I should have stopped." - Sokoudjou, a little more revealing than Mike Tyson.

"There’s no bad blood. He’s been nice. We’ve run into each other, and every time he’s always been a gentlemen. I feel like a douchebag doing it. I’m really sorry for it." - Sokoudjou, living up to his Japanese image of a savage African beast.

Star-divide

A BIGGER UPSET THAN MY MOM THROWING AWAY MY BASEBALL CARD COLLECTION

"These guys have no idea what they're getting their hands on. I don't give a fuck if he's won 100 fights or one fight." - Joe Warren, leading up to his fight with Japanese mega-star Norifumi "KID" Yamamoto. (Pro MMA Radio)

"He called me up and said, 'We know how to beat this guy. We've been training to beat this guy for a long time. He's been backing out of fights with us for he last three years. You're going to kick the shit out of him. We'll take care of you.'" - Warren, describing his training with former WEC featherweight champ Urijah Faber.  Fortunately, Warren wasn't fighting current WEC featherweight champ, Mike Brown.

"He's smaller than me and no one ever puts pressure on him. Half the battle is going to be me staying in good position with my hands when he gives an opening. It's me versus him. One person wins and one person loses, and I don't lose, so I'm feeling pretty good." - Warren, with the expert strategy of "don't lose."

A BIGGER LETDOWN THAN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE

"Got too hyped and punted Jacare in his head Wanderlei Silva style." - Jason "Mayhem" Miller, tweeting about his "no contest" against Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza.  (Twitter)

"Jacare calls me a clown and disrespects me all the time, headbutted me and opened a cut on my eye." - Miller, defending himself on the Underground.  When's he ever called you a clown? (The Underground)

"I trained three months for this clown to come and do what he did, now I won’t fight in July, not for a while. I’ll take a rest and wait." - Souza.  There it is. (Tatame)

"He is proving that he isn’t a person of only one face, he is two-faced." - Souza, on Mayhem being apologetic following the fight, but talking smack in interviews since.  Also, I love translations.

MORE FAKE HYPE THAN SUMMERSLAM

"'Hate' is a very powerful word, I know. It gets thrown around a lot when people don't really mean it, like 'Aw, I hate mustard!' or 'Aw, I hate this song.' But I hate my opponent at UFC 99."" - Marcus Davis.  I've set a line at -500 that him and Dan Hardy embrace following their fight regardless of the finish.  And only weirdos hate mustard. (UFC.com)

"This is not an act." - Hardy.  Yes, it is. (Watch Kalib Run)

"I don't like the fact that he thinks he has some kind of hold over the U.K." - Hardy, neither do I.  Nor do I like his weird Irish pride.  Cut it out.

A POORER STRATEGY THAN NAPOLEON AT WATERLOO, HITLER'S TWO FRONTS, AND SEAN SHERK AT UFC 98

"In the prefight press conference, I heard Rashad say that he didn’t bring anybody in who would resemble Machida’s style. When I heard that, I knew that there might be some problems." - Former UFC welterweight champ Matt Hughes, pointing out an obvious flaw in Rashad Evans' training camp. (Matt-Hughes.com)

"If I was to coach Rashad against Machida, I would have told him to make it a fight, use his wrestling and groundwork to really dictate the match." - Hughes.  Yeah, you know, fight to your advantages.  Complex stuff.

"Rashad ran the whole time. I don't know if he got out there and threw the gameplan out and gave him too much respect after one of those hits." - Shawn Tompkins.  It's crazy to hear Lyoto's opponent be accused of running away. (Cage Writer)

"I'm going to go to three of the best karate schools in the area, get their best guys and work that timing, because that's all it is." - Tompkins, joining a long line of the deluded.

A BIGGER DEBACLE THAN SURVIVOR SERIES '97

"It was the toughest one to call, because you don't see the face of the guy receiving the punch. You have to look with the body, so basically, I based my judgment on Mr. Nover's reaction. When he went face-first in the mat with his arms behind him, I decided to stop the fight." - Yves Lavigne, defending his stoppage of the Bradley/Nover fight at UFC 98.  (Sherdog)

"I know it looks bad. I know some people on the Internet said I re-start[ed] that fight. I never re-start[ed] that fight. I didn't want to receive a kick in the face and get knocked out. When the fighter doesn't really comply, what am I supposed to do? I think the step back was the best way in order to stop the fight." - Lavigne, not making the best case for himself.  I suppose the best thing to do if a fighter doesn't comply is just let him beat the shit out of the other guy, right?

CLIMBING HIGHER THAN HUNTER THOMPSON AT A NATIONAL DRUG CONVENTION

"When I started, I just wanted to be able to say I did it. I just thought, 'I want to try this once, because I'm a fan.' And then once I had fought once I thought, 'Well, if I get to five fights, then I can say I'm a veteran of the sport.' And then once I had five fights I thought, 'I want to make it to the UFC so I can say I fought in the biggest show in the world.' And then when I did that I thought, 'I've always wanted to fight in Japan.' So I went over and did that. And then I started thinking I might be able to get myself into position to where I'm in the Top 3 in the world. And then once I did that I got my title shot, and there you go, I'm the No. 1 guy." - WEC featherweight champ Mike Brown, planning to challenge Anderson Silva after a successful title defense. (MMA Fanhouse)

MORE WEIGHT ISSUES THAN OPRAH ON A CUPCAKE BENDER

"I fight at 185lbs. If they want to do this fight at 185lbs, it's done, otherwise I see no option to go up, because he isn't a challenge, a man without much name." - Former UFC light heavyweight champ Vitor Belfort, on his rumored upcoming fight with former (?) Dream middleweight champ Gegard Mousasi. (Watch Kalib Run)

"I am very surprised that Belfort was willing to challenge Fedor at heavyweight yet it unwilling to fight me at a catchweight." - Mousasi, owning Belfort harder than he will in the ring.

"But for me, his comments are strange because his paycheck will be unchanged whether he fights a bigger name than me or not. It is also strange that he does not see me as a challenge when many rankings have me ranked higher than him at middleweight." - Mousasi.  Ouch.

SCARIER THAN JOAN RIVERS WITHOUT MAKEUP

"I remember when I first saw him, I was scared to death of him." - Stephan Bonnar, on Mark Coleman.  Bonnar's now scared of unassuming looking Brazilians of Japanese descent. (NWI)

"I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm scared. This guy is huge." - Jose Canseco, before his fight with Hong Man Choi. (Sherdog)

MORE LINES THAN A COCAINE ADDICT

"The guy gets the munchies and entire farming communities go out of business." - Michael "The Mouth" Schiavello, on Bob Sapp. (HDNet Dream 9 Telecast)

"Mousasi KO'd Musashi like a two dollar pinata." - Schiavello

"Hideo Tokoro, more subs than the U.S. Navy." - Schiavello

"Always amazing that Imanari's propensity for going for a leglock or a heel hook has become as predictable as a Tara Reid nipple slip, but opponent's still fall for it." - Schiavello

"At five-foot-four, he's small enough to milk a cow standing up." - Schiavello, on Norifumi "KID" Yamamoto.

"He could beat the sun in a staring contest." - Schiavello, on Joe Warren.

"It happened years ago at a Muay Thai show in Melbourne on Fox Sports. The emcee was brand new and my director asked me to give him some instructions. Anyway at the end of the main event the emcee goes to the loser of the fight to talk to him. I flicked off my mic, flicked on the talkback to the emcee's earpiece and said, 'Nah fuck him, go interview the winner...' ... lo and behold if you listen closely, even though my mic was off, you can hear me say this on air!" - Schiavello, relaying his most embarassing on-air moment. (Bloody Elbow)

WHITE NOISE

"I would never cross-promote." - UFC President Dana White.  This answer changes in 2001. (Edge Boston)

"If he came over and wanted to fight I’d do a deal with him in a minute. You know we’ve been chasing him since we bought Pride." - White, on WAMMA heavyweight champ Fedor Emelianenko.

"In my opinion, I think it’s going to happen. He’d be crazy not to. I mean, why not? He’ll come over here and make a bunch of money and maybe even win the title and go down in history as the greatest heavyweight ever." - White, nice to see the optimism and subtle compliment.

PARTING SHOTS

"I’m not scared of anybody in any weight class. I’m scared of not making money!" - Former UFC light heavyweight champ Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, tweeting about his decision to coach TUF and fight Rashad Evans instead of a title fight with Lyoto Machida.  Gotta make that chedda. (Twitter)

"I don’t think I deserve to get suspended for going for a run. I wasn’t gone that long. I was gone maybe an hour. But what do you do?" - Former UFC lightweight champ Sean Sherk, on his disappearing act following his loss to Frank Edgar.  Also doesn't think he should have been suspended for steroids because, hey, he only tested positive once! (Sherdog)

"He was just upset that he lost. This is a guy whose only losses were to [Georges] St. Pierre, [B.J.] Penn, and [Matt] Hughes. Now he’s on the first fight of the pay-per-view and he loses and where does he go from here? I sympathize with him." - NSAC executive Keith Kizer.  Cold hearted. (Yahoo! Sports)

"I’ve been playing the ‘UFC 2009 Undisputed’ game as myself against [Dan Henderson] as part of my mental preparation" - Michael Bisping, with some unorthodox training techniques. (The Sun)

"He needs heart to beat me. Lots of heart." - Cheick Kongo, on upcoming opponent Cain Velasquez, who needs heart or junior high level wrestling. (The Sun)

"Some people like to go away from him, but I'm going to go toe-to-toe with him and see if he can stand it." - Bobby Lashley, on his fight with Bob Sapp.  He could also use the Minowaman strategy of just grabbing a limb - any limb - and twisting it a bit.

"In Columbus, Dana White offered me $10,000 to cut it. First it was $5,000, and then $10,000, and I laughed. I told him to add a couple zeros and we'll talk. The hair's here to stay. It's part of my style, part of my trademark." - Clay Guida.  Plus, it gives Joe Rogan something to talk about every time you fight. (Cage Writer)

"I’ve been training hard with 'the Cat' and I feel confident that I know what [Machida's] weaknesses are, and how I can exploit them should we meet in the cage." - Former UFC heavyweight champ Mark Coleman.  1) No, you don't.  2)  You're almost entitled to an AARP card.  3)  YOU'RE TRAINING WITH ERNEST "THE CAT" MILLER.  SOMEONE BETTER CALL YOUR MOMMA. Note: Apparently, not a legitimate quote.  See comments. (Latest MMA News)

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Love the hug after the fight bet. I took a bunch of money from my friends with the same prop bet for Serra-Hughes.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on May 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd also bet money

on Goldie saying something along the lines of: “now that’s what MMA is all about”, when said hug does occur.

by Scott Haber on May 31, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh...

which has sunk down into the fanbase to where we have such a large segment of fans that think it’s awesome when guys touch gloves every time one of them lands a jab

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on May 31, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. I’m all about sportsmanship and respect, but the in-cage manlove needs to stop.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on May 31, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s also being used as a strategy too much these days—like, if you’re rocked, “congratulate” the guy for the good strike so you have time to recover, and if he hits you he’s a douchenozzle.

A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who

by thetakeover on May 31, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone ever forgoes this BS and cracks the other guy instead, I will be a fan for life.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on May 31, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree, it might be labeled a cheap shot but it would be totally legal and hilariously funny. Giving 2-1 odds that the first guy who does it is Mayhem.

by ufc4 on May 31, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would exempt the glove touch at the start of the first round, that seems to be so prevalent as to be an unofficial rule. So glad to see Gamburyan KO’d after that cheapshot kick.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If a guy puts his arm out to tap and then cheap shots instead, fuck him. But if the other guy wants to play patty cake and you don’t? Blast him.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Jun 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Sokoudjou is copping to being a douchebag. Most guys would come up with some excuse for why they kept going or some bullshit. He gains points with me for admitting he screwed up.

by E. Spencer Kyte on May 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate mustard!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on May 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seconded. Hate the stuff.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yellow sucks, but brown/dijon is great on a brat (and no, I am not copying Obama)

by subo on May 31, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know Obama’s favorite hot-dog?
Its time for an intervention.

Keep firing Assholes!

This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.

by Ubernoober on May 31, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bratwurst...

is not a hot dog. Jesus! COME ON! I’m about to ban you.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on May 31, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know Obama’s favorite hot-dog meat tube?
Its time for an intervention.

Keep firing Assholes!

This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.

by Ubernoober on May 31, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s actually the mustard. A law professor from Cornell lost his damn mind over the fact that the guy likes Dijon mustard.

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

American politics make no sense to me.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on May 31, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who on Earth would oppose saving money on health care by covering anyone and catching diseases before they become terminal? Why is there more research into erectile dysfunction than AIDS? How does John Boehner keep a straight face while presenting a budget sans numbers?

The answers to all of your questions is ‘money’.

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canadian?

I’ll try to put it in a context we’ll understand.
Michael Ignantief goes to Rimouski and orders a poutin w/ extra curds. Canadian media loses the collective shit while Steven Harper releases attack ads calling Iggy a sell out to seperatists.

Keep firing Assholes!

This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.

by Ubernoober on May 31, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only here we call him an ‘elitist’ or a ‘Muslim’

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

God forbid we pick an elitist for an elite position…

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

’It’s President of the United States. I want someone embarrassingly superior to me doing that job.’
- Jon Stewart, paraphrased

Did I mention how much I LOVE the old fight calls coming over the shitty weird Phillip Glass music? The Herring call, Sylvia-Arlovski I and II – all classics.

by subo on May 31, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When people accuse me of being elitist, I respond with, “Yes, I do appreciate quality.” That usually halts the conversation. If they say it’s all opinion, I say, “What if it’s my opinion that rape is good? If it’s just an opinion…” Jaws drop at that.

When is there Philip Glass music? I’ve never noticed it.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

quit talking to so many stupid people

from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe

by troy145 on May 31, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I try, but they’re everywhere. I can’t escape them. L’enfer, c’est les autres.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dijon mustard is the shit.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on May 31, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hear hear

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on May 31, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Props to Soko for apologizing. I hope he’ll succeed, since he’s an entertaining fighter with a lot of strength, he just needs more training, he’s still young.

But then again, I hope he won’t succeed against Gegard. ;-)

by grein on May 31, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How DARE you bring up Screwgate

In front of Bret Hart’s home crowd and everything. Delicious. Who says wrestling’s scripted?

Gotta love that wrestler confidence exhibited by Joe Warren.

by subo on May 31, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit. BE community…remove the quote or leave it be for posterity’s sake?

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on May 31, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO WAY YOU GUYS ARE BLOODY ELBOW FIGHTING FOR THE INTEGRITY OF MMA MEDIA EVERYWHERE AND SAVING THE SPORT FROM ITSELF YOU HAVE TO FIX

but really, I could go either way

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just put a disclaimer that it’s not really Coleman speaking.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA HA HA! Maybe drastic, but funny.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on May 31, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Things like this make me miss Smoogy

by subo on May 31, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats this about?

“I don’t think I deserve to get suspended for going for a run. I wasn’t gone that long. I was gone maybe an hour. But what do you do?”

Huh?

http://www.mma-collective.com/

by schizosmurf on May 31, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sherk ran out the building before he could take a piss test after losing to Edgar (he eventually returned).

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, he was not scheduled for a piss test. I don’t think he pissed when he got back, even.

by subo on May 31, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right – it was just a general post-fight medical exam he missed.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on May 31, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah apparently he ran from the cage outside still without a shirt on and went on a run around the strip area? I don’t know about any of you but I saw a shirtless and gloved Sherk running towards me I’d be trying to find a place to hide. hahah

by ChillMike on May 31, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dana tweeted about this..
“Sean sherk ran out of the ring and out the doors and down the street in his fight shorts and no shirt.” -Dana White.. Don’t worry, he’s probably just out there running after herbivores.

from the last How’s taste my tweet tweet..

by Anton Tabuena on May 31, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s great is that guy gets laid. If you stop rewarding stupid behavior, we’ll stop doing it, ladies!

by subo on May 31, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a picture of subo

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on May 31, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Subo could probably eat that guy.

by subo on May 31, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Tito Ortiz Award for refering to yourself in 3rd person goes to…

Keep firing Assholes!

This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.

by Ubernoober on Jun 1, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re going to insult me, use a spellchecker. Can you see what I’m referring to?

by subo on Jun 1, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you see my four popped collars now?!?!?!?

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Jun 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I wanted to insult you I would call you Mr. Internet Spellchecker Guy.

Keep firing Assholes!

This is a dream competition for me. I drink as much coffee as I want, and eventually I hallucinate.

by Ubernoober on Jun 1, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real American Heroes!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Jun 1, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

There’s an entire website devoted to this type of behavior:

http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/

by ufc4 on May 31, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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