The Unparalleled Manny Pacquiao
by Luke Thomas on May 3, 2009 12:51 AM EDT
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Hatton gets positively stuck with one of the most brilliant punches I've ever seen by the incomparable Pacquiao:
Hatton stills comes out aggressive. Hatton standing up too straight. Manny landing with the right hook. Pac Man now backing him up again. Pac Man is extremely accurate. Pac Man still backing him up, but punching a bit wildly. A left hand flattened Hatton. The fight is over. He's flat in the center of the ring.
(Folks, keep reloading)
Hatton looks in very bad shape on the canvas. He's being attended to by officials. It was a perfect, wicked left hand from Pacquiao.
Hatton is now sitting up.
The end comes at 2:59 of round number two.
Scott Christ contextualizes the significance of Pacquiao's achievement:
Manny Pacquiao is without any question the best fighter on the planet. Floyd could knock out Marquez with one punch in July and Pacquiao is the #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world.
I'm literally in awe. I don't even know what to say. This was competely amazing. Manny Pacquiao is unreal -- and he's an all-time great. He's won his fourth lineal championship and a title in six weight classes now.
Hatton had nothing for Pacquiao. Nothing. Ricky Hatton is a hell of a fighter and Manny Pacquiao made him look like a guy who didn't belong in there.
I don't know what else to say. Pacquiao just made his spot among the best ever.
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Now I'm just waiting...
For our “P4P #1” to kick ass like that. Until then, punches to the thigh it is…
Pacquiao was on fire tonight, great showing.
by kyfm621 on May 3, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny Pacquaio:Anderson Silva::Ricky Hatton:Chris Leben
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by Mike Fagan on May 3, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When has Fedor punched to the thigh? (haha)
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by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You, sir, are the winner. I commend you and your awesomeness.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s only one Ricky Hatton!
Seriously though, I like Ricky, but Manny proved how far ahead of everyone he is right now. Absolutely brilliant stuff.
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by Mike Fagan on May 3, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Hatton so that was kinda hard to watch, but even I can’t help but be in awe of Manny’s speed.
by Zack Gobie on May 3, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone wants Pacman to fight PBF next, but I’d like to see him fight Cotto.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Devastating punch.
Finally, the fraud that is a Ricky Hatton has been exposed. He’s a glorified club fighter, been saying it for years, with minimal skill. It’s commendable that Hatton has made it so far, and made so much money, being as limited as he is, but the ride ends here. The money fights are gone. And I don’t ever want to see Ricky mentioned as a p4p fighter ever again. It’s insulting to the sport.
We saw a supremely talented boxer in Pacquiao dismantle an embarrassingly over-matched opponent tonight. Nothing more.
Let’s hope Pretty Boy Floyd gets past JMM this summer and we all get to enjoy a true superfight in the fall.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having your only losses be to the two best P4P boxers in the world is hardly a fraud.
by Zack Gobie on May 3, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who has Hatton beat? Exactly.
The man has some 40+ wins against literal club fighters in the UK, where referees allow boxers to maul each other, never breaking up clinches.
Fraud.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Malignaggi, Lazcano, Castillo, Urango, Collazo, Tszyu….uh, okay buddy.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was waiting for this. Thank you.
Malignaggi – one armed fairy with no power
Lazcano – barely beat, some fans even believe Hatton lost that fight
Castillo – was a shell of his former self, punch drunk
Tszyu – was allowed to clinch fight to ridiculous lengths by UK referee, literally have to smack someone with a shovel in order for a referee to step in there. Queensbury rules are hardly enforced in UK.
Urango and Collazo are the career defining people want to prop up Hatton’s career with? Fail.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate all you want. If losing to the best guy in the world is “exposing the fraud”, you might want to do some research on what that means. Losing to a nobody does that. Losing to the best P4P guy doesn’t exactly do that.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a vacuum, I agree. However, I go back to who has Hatton beat? One should actually have to earn the respect so many media members (especially across the pond) and delirious fans accord Hatton. Instead, Hatton just magically appeared in people’s top 10 p4p lists while ignoring the obvious: his skills are severely limited and he’s had a very cleverly managed career.
And yes, I am hating and loving every second of it. It’s so much harder for people to disagree now. =)
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure I'm not going to convince you
But he’s literally cleaned out his weight class for the past 4 years. He’s beaten 9 former and future titlists and two guys who were top 5 pound for pound at the time he beat them (although Castillo was obviously misplaced being that high), and none of the fights were particularly close. His only two losses are to the then-reigning #1 pound for pound fighter in the world. Yes, he fought in a relatively weak weight class outside of Tszyu, but he pretty much did all he could in the weight class. Remembering that the standards for the IBHOF are very weak, I consider him a borderline hall of famer.
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by Brickhaus on May 3, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by the way
We don’t bite at badlefthook. If you want to hate on boxers, you can do it on the boxing blog too.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on May 3, 2009 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, the only boxer I have this angst for is Hatton. He’s an unskilled club fighter who has gotten so much more out of his limited skills than he had any right to — for which I commend him. Just don’t equate that with being a HoF or p4p fighter.
There’s a serious void in skill. I know. Floyd Sr. knew it before, and after, the fight. The same for Roger. Hell, any clear thinking student of the sport should have come to this conclusion, but so many have been sucked in by the ever-present UK hype machine since Hatton allegedly took that “next step” in his career.
Hatton’s manager is the one who belongs in the HoF for somehow getting him to this point.
Perhaps I will stop by BLH more often. And not with the intention of hating on boxers, unless the subject is Hatton and people are bringing teh crazy.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
the important thing to remember is that Hatton wasn’t exactly rated amazingly high in everyone’s mind. He was at the low end of the top 10 P4P which I’d say was deserved
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s true. He was generally at the bottom fo the top 10. Though, Yahoo somehow managed to have him at number five or six once.
I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think he belonged in the top 20. He never should have sniffed the top 10. Brilliant marketing, I suppose.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he earned his spot...
I mean…it’s not like he ducked anyone or anything. His style is ugly at times and he is a mugger. But I’d say that he earned the #8(ish) spot heading in to last night. Still…he got mowed through.
Different perspectives I suppose.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A real perspective
Tommy Point (above) declares that Hatton is ‘a glorified club fighter, been saying it for years, with minimal skill.’
Well, tell that to Kosta Tszyu and the other 36 guys that Hatton has TKO’d in a 45-2 record. It is a schoolboyish outlook to disrespect Hatton’s immense fighting spirit and skill…undermining the huge abilities of the two men to beat him…Pacquaio and Mayweather…and all the other tough bastards he faced.
Hatton had the balls to face everyone to find out if he was the best. He’s a man. The man is the guy having a go in the ring, win or lose…not the mouthpiece who sounds like he has never had a full on fight in his life.
Grow up…it is no disgrace to fall to a blinding punch from the likes of Pacquaio or Mayweather. It is a disgrace to bad mouth any big hearted fighter who puts his head on the block.
by Boing on May 3, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lunging jab, clinch, body punch, referee steps in. Rinse and repeat for as long as a Hatton fight goes. That is the extent of his ability, literally. There is no ‘immense’ skill. Heart? Sure, but that only gets you so far. Anyone who has seen more than one Hatton fight should know this to be the case. Oh, but we were all told that was simply “in-fighting”. That was a lie. A bad one. A promotion trick.
Kostya Tszyu (at least spell his name right), was at the end of the line and had stepped into a perfect storm for a Hatton victory. The most important factor was that the fight was in the UK, where the referees couldn’t care less about enforcing the rules of boxing. Hatton was rarely made to stop holding and clinching. The entire fight was an absurd hug-fest, with Hatton leaning on Tszyu to tire him out while landing the odd body punch. And it worked. It was Club Fighting 101.
It’s not a disgrace to lose to the two best boxers in the sport. What I claim is a disgrace is that so many people thought Hatton even belonged in the same ring with them in the first place. Where’s the skill?
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
had to settle for the youtube version...
… but damn. total dismantling.
by woooburn on May 3, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AMAZING KO! Sad to see Hatton go out lke that. =/ Manny was awesome and realaxed. That guy is having fun out there. Its a thing of beauty I tell ya.
But just a quick fix to Scotts post.
Manny Pacquiao is without any question the best fighter boxer on the planet. ;)
Boxing has 2 great fights left this year I really want to see. JMM vs PBF and Pac vs the winner. Personaly I’d love to see JMM beat the shizz outta Mayweather ruining his record and setting up JMM/Pac III at the same time but I doubt he’ll be able to catch him.
PBF dont want NONE of Pac.
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by xFenixKnightx on May 3, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny Pacquiao is without any question the bestfighterboxer on the planet. ;)
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! I love it!
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by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY what I thought when I read it.
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by Benicio on May 3, 2009 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a quick fix to your post
Boxing has2 great fights left this year I really want to see2 huge fights this year that HBO will hype into my brain and thus I will pay attention to them.
(I’m just joshin’, I mean no offense.)
There are way better fights than Mayweather-Marquez on the docket right now and that thing probably won’t be among the 20 best fights of the year.
by SC on May 3, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It brought me joy. One of the sweetest punches I’ve ever seen. Pacman 4 lyfe.
What a great weekend for HL reels. This KO, Imada’s sub, the owner of the Derby-winning horse totally salting Kenny Rice.
by Chris Nelson on May 3, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
celts, sox, and bruins winning isn’t half bad either :)
by woooburn on May 3, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I didn’t even know the B’s were playing. I was flipping around 3 channels + computer as it was.
SCAL FOR THREE
by Chris Nelson on May 3, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Oh you meant last night. That first goal from Ward was sick.)
by Chris Nelson on May 3, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, i didnt even realize the game i watched today was recorded. shows how observant i am.
by woooburn on May 3, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, the rest of the country hates Boston. Little do they know, though, that their hate only fuels our super sports powers.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sat in a luxury box to watch the B’s game. For some reason I feel like telling everyone that.
by SplitBreast on May 3, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nighty Night
(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)
by Flying Gogoplata on May 3, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The look on the referee’s face is awesome.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering what the hell the doctor and Hatton’s cornermen were doing tipping him on his side like that? Aren’t they supposed to keep him stationary? It kinda freaked me out.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen the video, but you’re probably talking about the recovery position.
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by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looks to be what they were doing. Good link.
However, read the spinal or neck injuries section at the bottom. Not really supposed to move them if that’s what one is looking for. And, I would think that would be precisely the main concern after that kind of knockout.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. I think whiplash might be the most common neck injury, based on the way the heads snap during KOs.
I learned the recovery position in high school first aid classes – it’s useful for when your drunk roommate passes out.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there was much concern of a neck injury...
turn him on the side so he doesn’t swallow his tongue and is able to get good air.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you watch the gif below, there is a doctor stablizing Hatton’s head as they turn him on his side.
by Dropkick434 on May 3, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wicked fucking punch..
can you believe how far pac has gone from being the 1 handed brawler he was back then?
Filipinos will be partying the whole day i tell you.
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 1:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Brits are trashing Vegas as we speak.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
their drums didn’t even get used as much and the fight was already over. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is scary one punch knockout power…
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by Zocalo on May 3, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord, that’s awesome.
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by Rundownloser on May 3, 2009 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i also expected manny to win,
but how he did it was really shocking.. It’s like hatton didn’t even deserve to be in the ring with him..
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I picked Hatton
Partially because I love the risky pick, partially I thought it was the good matchup for him — Manny made me and everyone else look WAY stupid. Even the Manny lovers weren’t picking Manny KO-2. All love and respect to Manny Pacquiao.
by SC on May 3, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i picked manny to win in the late rounds..
just cause ricky hasn’t really improved as much as manny when it comes to technical boxing, defense and movement (or maybe cause im Filipino haha). but i thought it would be an all out war with both sides giving and taking power shots.. but damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS how could you scott?
and after de la hoya, you told me that you’ll never doubt roach again.. ;p
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just thought it’d come down to the fighters…
…which it did. Manny is the MAN. Period.
by SC on May 3, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got home,
the delayed telecast had to show the fight twice to make up for their obligations to sponsors hahaha. :)
i watched it thrice already.. im still amazed at how manny performed. damnnnnnnnnn.
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More photos of (good) left hook
(Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)
(AP Photo/ Jae C. Hong)
by Flying Gogoplata on May 3, 2009 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luke. Seriously.
It’s incomparable. As in cannot be compared.
by subo on May 3, 2009 2:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Took this long to point it out? Hell of a punch to distract everyone =)
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on May 3, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I was watching that elsewhere. I’m also working on about 2.5 hrs of sleep out of the last 36.
by subo on May 3, 2009 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How’d the SATs go?
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by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel good about it – I know I fucked up one question by making it too hard (solved for circumference instead of diameter) and I completely forgot what a vertice is. I’ll know for sure in a few weeks, at which time I’ll either toot my horn or be silent.
by subo on May 3, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ho-Lee Shit
I was watching this at Nevada Smith’s in NYC. There’s a huge population of British regulars there, but the crowd was surprisingly split. It was also incredibly quiet after the KO. Everybody was stunned, no matter who they were rooting for. I actually had to shepherd my English friend back to my apartment and show him the Mosley/Margarito fight to take his mind off the brutal beating.
Pacquiao is just fucking stunning. SC is dead right to call him an “all-time great.” I just wonder who he can fight next. I know JMM would love another shot, but he’d have to beat Mayweatther somehow first. I’d love to see Pac/Mayweather, but I genuinely don’t think Floyd will take that fight. So who’s next for Pac? Does he have to move permanently to 147 now to get a fight?
by FRANKIE on May 3, 2009 4:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Freddie Roach said that if PBF would agree to a 50/50 split, the fight would be on in a heartbeat (provided Floyd gets past JMM).
I think Floyd decided to take the JMM fight to up his bargaining power in potential Pacquiao negotiations. Not to mention he hates Bob Arum like poison. Still, a silly move that could end up costing Floyd millions.
Pacquiao is my favorite fighter, but there’s no way I could pick him over Floyd. We saw how much trouble a more-than-competent counter-puncher in JMM could give Pacman. Imagine the best counter-puncher of this generation? Don’t see that ending well for the Pacman.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine his punching power in grappling gloves. Daaaamn!
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by Benicio on May 3, 2009 4:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so whats next?
Next for pac man cotto? mayweather? valero? faber? lol
by Baki_hanma on May 3, 2009 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Barring any injuries, everything hinges on the Mayweather/JMM fight.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who draws a distinction between “fighter” and “boxer”? Boxing isn’t fighting, it’s a sport about punching people. Wrestling, also not fighting. BJJ? Not fighting. MMA isn’t even fighting, but it’s as close as any of us can justify.
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by jemaleddin on May 3, 2009 7:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably mate...
The rest of us were just enjoying the [not a] fight :)
by -Sam on May 3, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
few of us mentioned it above.
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by Benicio on May 3, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boxing = fight under specific rules
MMA = fight under specific rules
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMA has less restrictive rules and is thus closer to a “real fight.”
Of course in a real fight, I would much rather be good at parkour so I can run away.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on May 3, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
yeah. it’s closer to a “real fight” but that isn’t the focus of boxing. I still say boxing is a fight though.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anytime someone is punched in the face and the outcome is not pre-determined is a fight to me.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on May 3, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When/why was it decided that western boxing could only be punching with no clinchwork? It’s such an odd rule set, considering the evolution of martial arts across the globe. It’s the most limited combat sport.
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by themachiavellian on May 3, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s interesting. I felt like the hype with the 24/7 show and all the hype from the British fans was making Hatton seem like he was invincible in this fight. Even analysts were pushing for a Hatton late-round surge. I never saw it like that.
All I saw when this fight was announced was hand speed. Pacquaio has blazing hand speed, and I didn’t see Hatton keeping up at all. I gave Hatton 4 rounds tops. He didn’t even last that. But the hand speed added with his intelligence is a thing of beauty.
Hatton flnched to wind up his overhand left, and Pacquaio instantly reacted with a short right, downing Hatton. The speed and intelligence was amazing.
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by Leland Roling on May 3, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is like 3 or 4 people in this thread saying “what a great right” I am pretty sure it was a left.
by DirtyML on May 3, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe they were referring to the first knockdown.. or manny’s much much improved right hand..
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First knockdown was a right.
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by Leland Roling on May 3, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh I only saw the final KO gif, didn’t know he got tagged twice in two rounds.
by DirtyML on May 3, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thrice
Two in the first, then the KO punch at the second round..
by Anton Tabuena on May 3, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who else is there to fight after this?
Mayweather? Can’t wait for the move to MMA speculations start.
by Deo Wade on May 3, 2009 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cotto.
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by Beer Monster on May 3, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His own fault
He should have taken it to the ground. Everyone knows Manny has no BJJ defense, and Hatton could have submitted him easily.
by mythbuster on May 3, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair Hatton did have about 3 standing Guillotine attempts but the ref separated them. BTW, WORST REF EVER. Am I right? I mean the guy is going for a sub and he separates them? Ugh! Pacs takedown D is amazing.
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by xFenixKnightx on May 3, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bleh, I don’t think I will ever be able to enjoy boxing fights with all the stops in the action to separate the boxers. Same deal as MMA in a ring, I just hate artificial breaks in the action.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on May 3, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not for everyone...
just like every sport some aren’t going to find it appealing. And there certainly is nothing wrong with that in my eyes.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would love to see a good boxing match with as little clinch stops as possible, I was just beginning to appreciate the technique when they would clinch and the ref came in to separate them. Got any good fights to check out?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on May 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Pac has great takedown defense, I’ll give him that. But still, Hatton should have worked harder for it. But you’re right, the ref sucked and probably would have stood it up once they hit the canvas anyway.
by mythbuster on May 3, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was the second boxing match I have watched since the first Jermain Taylor vs Bernard Hopkins fight.
The first was the Taylor vs. Froch fight mentioned here on BE. I wouldn’t say I am the biggest boxing fan but are there any other fights I should watch like this?
Oh and while this fight was awesome I must say the undercard kinda sucked.
by zeroword on May 3, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some great fights from the last couple years:
Vazquez-Marquez trilogy
Pacquiao-Marquez II
Marquez-Diaz
Cotto-Margarito
Pavlik-Taylor I
I’m leaving a lot of stuff out.
And the undercard definitely sucked.
by Nick_ on May 3, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be sure to check all of those out thanks!
by zeroword on May 3, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't bother with Cotto-Margarito
You’re watching a fairy tale with that fight.
by SC on May 3, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking cheater…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 3, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Margarito didn’t get half the shit GSP got, and it’s a shame.
by subo on May 3, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Margarito will likely never fight again in the US. That’s more important ‘shit’, and likely deservedly so, than GSP has or will take
by lcollins1 on May 3, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will likely never fight in the US, and yeah… he isn’t going to make millions of dollars fighting cans in Tijuana. No one will fight a cheater like him. He broke a a rule that is unspoken among fighters.
If you cheat in baseball, you get more homeruns, you cheat in track, you run faster, you cheat in boxing… you significantly increase the chance of maming someone.
There isn’t a place for him in the sport…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although that fact makes Mosley/Margarito remarkably satisfying.
by FRANKIE on May 3, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously the fight is now tainted
But Cotto’s performance was pretty incredible and Margarito’s ability to take shots and come back strong was amazing too. Take into account the likely fact that Margarito’s gloves were loaded and Cotto’s work in the ring becomes almost heroic.
by Nick_ on May 3, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take into account the likely fact that Margarito’s gloves were loaded and that when we saw him without loaded gloves he got his head punched in, and the whole thing just loses any good memories for me.
by SC on May 3, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the under-card was pure garbage. Guy named James Kirkland was scheduled to be on it. Absolutely electric KO artist, huge puncher…but he got arrested last week for being a felon in possession of a firearm.
by lcollins1 on May 3, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While already on probation no less.
It’s a shame. He was a thrill to watch.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...
I missed the “felon” in your comment which I guess would be enough to imply that he was on probation.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Taylor/Hopkins isn’t exactly the most eye candy fight because Hopkins can make it ugly and Taylor fades late in fights….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't iirc.
But it was the last boxing fight I saw until recently.
by zeroword on May 3, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Floyd Sr. says Hatton should retire:
“I would suggest he retire. At the end of the day, it’s his decision,” Mayweather Sr. said. “He tried twice. He failed twice. He lost to my son and to lose to someone below that, it’s time to leave the ring. He made a good profit. Sometimes you have to go when your prime is still there.”
So does Carl Froch:
“I have to say, if I was in his position after last night’s performance, I would definitely retire,” Froch said. “But I can’t speak for another fighter. He will decide what he’s going to do.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4131271
by Chris Nelson on May 3, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I don’t see it. I think he’ll fight at least one more time and it will be with Roach as his trainer.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call it a night… Be happy with at least the 13 million he got not including what he got from Sky or Setanta… and get fat and drink your ass off.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on May 3, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brillaint as the final punch was, this one's a real beauty
Punch AND duck!
by -Sam on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Floyd Sr. was blabbering about how that was Pacquiao’s only move and how easy it would be to nullify. Ah, no.
Have a failburger, Floyd.
by a tommy point on May 3, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
On 24/7 you could see Manny and Freddy drilling the right hook-straight left-right hook and then slip under the return shot and pivot. Floyd talked crap about it but really with Manny’s speed there wasn’t going to be a lot Ricky could do when Manny got into range to fire off the combo.
Manny was in position to fire another shot if Ricky didn’t go down.
by kp the ghost on May 3, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's clear...
that you can’t prepare for someone at Manny’s size with his speed and power. You can drill all you want but his gifts are so rare that you can’t duplicate it in the gym.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right. No trainer in the world could have prepared Hatton for that. The combination of speed, power, plus a game-plan to make Hatton pay for his lazy left hooks. There was nothing that could be done. I just didn’t think Pac could hit THAT hard.
In large part I attributed DLH quitting on his stool to age and a general lack of passion to fight from behind. In retrospect I think he knew he was gonna get KTFO if he tried to get to the cards, even while doing the ‘DLH turtle’ against the ropes.
by lcollins1 on May 3, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Floyd's (Sr.) brother
“If you can’t beat a man like that… Pshhh you should just give up boxing.” referring to Manny. That was a bit overboard.
by Don't say that Rashad on May 3, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I genuinely don’t think the Mayweathers — any of them — “get” Pacquiao.
by SC on May 3, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least the UK still has Bisping!
until Hendo gets a hold of him….
by Ozone on May 3, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I watched the fight at my other job (bar)
And I swear we haven’t heard noises that loud in a long long time. “OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!" "DAAAAMMMMMMNNNNN!!!!!! “YEEEEEESSSSS!!!! HAHAHAHAH YESSSSS!!!!!” and of course, the very annoying Guido sitting next to me (who kept claiming Roach was his boxing trainer. All night) “WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD BABY! WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!”
Overall it was a great fight.
by poundnground on May 3, 2009 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UGH
I wanted to throw my burrito at that dude. LOL, don’t forget the veterano gangster guy, “Man sit the fuck down!” while the guido was demonstrating Manny’s footwork. WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD BABY!
by Don't say that Rashad on May 3, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE MAYWEATHER CAN BEAT PACQUIAO
BE PREPARED TO BE SHOCKED. ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULDN’T BE SHOCKED … THE FACT THAT MAYWEATHER COULD NOT DISPATCH HATTON UNTIL THE 10TH ROUND AND PACQUIAO DID IT IN JUST TWO ROUNDS … SHOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT MAYWEATHER WON’T EVEN LAST ONE ROUND !!! WHO WANTS TO BET ?
by Julius Rodriguez on May 4, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dude….maybe turn off the caps lock key?
but i’m with you….pac def has a real good chance of beating mayweather. but i don’t think that fight is gonna happen.
by rainmaker6 on May 4, 2009 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nerve Of Mayweather Sr.
He said Manny Pacquiao can’t fight.
He said Freddie Roach is a joke of a coach.
He even said Freddie Roach is a cockroach.
This guy is so shameless. No wonder his son does not use him as trainer.
by Julius Rodriguez on May 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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