UFC 98 in Retrospect: The Problems With Sean Sherk's Striking
There is chatter about Sherk's game plan going into last night, which at this juncture are more than relevant. But what underwrites that game plan are the skills and abilities of the individual fighter (or the perceived skill), so when the gameplan fails it's important to inquire whether the skills (or lack thereof) play any role in the defeat. In Sherk's case, the decision to essentially box/kickbox with Edgar sealed his fate from the outset. Sherk simply didn't have the skillset to justify the gameplan, so let's look at some the problems to help us better understand why Sherk's reliance on his limited Thai boxing was a strategic error.
1. Sherk's stance is troubling. He barely threatens the takedown by working from a constant position of a slightly lowered elevation in the early going, but that unfortunately anchors him and prevents him from utilizing a looser, mobile style that can more easily create pivoted angles or a wide variety of distances. As he currently operates, he is only able to inch forward linearly. His stance almost looks like a sugar foot stance that Hughes is doing when he goes southpaw.
2. Sherk is a head hunter. He does posses a good arsenal of lead and rear uppercuts, left hooks and double jab, but almost never goes to the body. This allows opposition like Edgar to work more simplistic defenses and put together better counter combinations that, in turn, can land on Sherk's body. Sherk's head hunting also permits opposition to more predictably game plan and comfortably prepare defensive jab slips, step out angles, and high percentage combinations.
3. Sherk is flat footed. This fits more into the issues I articulated with his stance earlier, but again, it's important to keep in mind that if Sherk were regularly using the sugarfoot stance to more consistently incorporate takedowns, then Sherk could be forgiven sitting on his heels. As it is, not only is his mobility compromised, but it's reduced without the benefit of the constant threat of shots.
4. Sherk uses almost no head movement. The problems with this are obvious, but they're compounded by Sherk's other issues. Sherk not only leaves his head stationary for opposition, but his head is in the proper place for opponents who throw three-punch combinations after cutting angles while Sherk is facing the wrong direction.
5. Sherk only threatens with the right leg kicks and a head hunting attack. Sherk's opposition understand he may throw a handful of leg kicks himself and will likely never throw middle or high kicks. This limits the number, type and effectiveness of available combinations. Worse, while Sherk has short legs, he has even shorter arms. Sherk will never likely develop a dynamic kicking game that will send oppositoin crashing to the mat a la Rashad Evans vs. Sean Salmon, but it could make them more hesitant if they believed Sherk was capable of landing more than lead uppercuts.
6. Sherk's anchored, straightforward movement allows opposition to make Sherk counterpunch. Sherk did try to initiate exchanges, but Edgar often chose to not respond. Sherk is quite capable at putting three and four punch combinations together (to the head), but Sherk's one directional movement offers more of an opportunity to Edgar and others to simply circle out of harm's way and initiate exchanges at a time of their choosing.
7. He has no knockout power. His head hunting could be slightly forgiven were he, like Paul Buentello, capable of actually putting opposition to sleep with a somewhat limited striking arsenal. So while Sherk can do some damage with his quick punches, oppositon need not be overly concerned the lights are going to get shut off if they stand too long with Sherk. And given that Sherk is all too comfortable standing without the ability to KO opposition, he is forced to technically defeat them with his striking skills. The problem here should be clear.
8. Sherk rarely uses feints or threatens level changes. For an adept wrestler with arguably the fastest shot in MMA (I think Ishida might have him, but it's close), Sherk inexplicably chooses to shoot less than a handful of times over the course of three rounds. What's frustrating is that while Sherk does occasionally get desperate with shots attempts, Sherk does have excellent timing. A more diverse striking arsenal could would allow Sherk the opportunity to not telegraph his shots as he does after three or four attempts. It appears Sherk's only got a handful of combinations that allow him to get opposition to cover and to get the distance closed. More combinations with more diverse shot location means more opportunity for takedowns or takedown threating.
Sherk could've made the fight a much more competitive affair by using his reliable wrestling and extreme conditioning to make up for limitedness in his stand up arsenal, but the MMAA product simply could not or chose not to make the requisite adjustments. And unfortunately, he paid dearly for it.
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Well written
Sherk’s boxing, while riddled with many of the aforementioned flaws, is an excellent tool to have at his disposal— as a secondary facet to his peerless wrestling abilities. If he would mix that boxing with his wrestling, he would easily win a decision against the Frankie Edgar’s of the world (no disrespect to Edgar). You can imagine how furious I was for the duration of that fight last night. And I had feared leading up to it that he would try to box with Edgar. Sean Sherk took a shot twice in a fight he had to have known he was losing. Makes me think he’s receding into the same plane of MMA hysteria that guys like Tito, Coleman and BJ exist upon. As a huge Sherk fan, I hope more than anything that he rights himself before it’s too late. He’s not getting any younger and the Edgar fight has likely cost him a title shot in the short term.
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by Blackout612 on May 24, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And I had feared leading up to it that he would try to box with Edgar.
I worried about this, also. Sherk’s damn sure got the tools, but the man seems to be hooked on boxing. The shortcomings in his boxing, as Luke has expertly pointed out, were eventually going to get him in trouble against someone he was supposed to beat.
I will take a moment to tip my hat to Edgar. The guy’s movement was great. He did what he needed to do to win and looked phenomenal in the process. Edgar can beat a ton of guys at 155, but what if he were to move to 145? I don’t think he will, because he likely doesn’t want to leave the big show, and he just beat one of the top guys. Suffice it to say, I was impressed with Frankie Edgar in spite of Sherk utilizing a bad plan of attack.
by Cannon Jacques on May 24, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw that it was even obvious in the first round that his boxing wouldn’t lead him anywhere with Edgard.
by spectaa on May 24, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I found myself thinking back to the video of Sherk and Hughes on the bikes with the gas masks on thinking, “why all the effort if he’s not going to use that conditioning?”
by GKINMD on May 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by iiowyn on May 24, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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by themachiavellian on May 24, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherk
it would also help if he actually LANDED a few punches. I think I counted 20 in a row somewhere where he didnt solidly land one punch
by Ryan D Boston on May 24, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luke, I think you should have a separate item for his short limbs. His lack of range is one of his biggest downfalls as a striker.
by Flying Gogoplata on May 24, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I alluded to it
I wanted to focus more on his developed talents for this piece, but yes, you’re absolutely right it’s very relevant criteria.
by Luke Thomas on May 24, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great article Luke
but now I have to figure out what the sugar foot stance is. I wish somebody forwards this to sherk.
by fuzzy wuzzy on May 24, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It kinda seems like he isn’t training MMA but training boxing and wrestling GSP is so successful because he can functionally wrestle but it just seems like Sherk’s standup game is working against his wrestling
by drano on May 24, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup, the first thing that came to mind when I read the title is his lack of reach.
by I Can't Feel My Face on May 24, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk was just arm punching and when you do that… you get go real power behind the punches.
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by Zocalo on May 24, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Zocalo on May 24, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember after his fight with BJ, Fightlinker phrased it perfectly: tested positive for elevated levels of stupidity. If you’re known as one of the most dominant wrestlers in the UFC, you stand and box because…?
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by themachiavellian on May 24, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Add to all of those poor technical issues that he has T-Rex arms and you have a recipe for disaster when it comes to striking. He can do all the things he’s doing in the striking game if he were just using it to set up his wrestling game. He’s going the Jorge Gurgel route so he can be “exciting” and win the fans back. If he doesn’t fix his problems, or go back to his dominant wrestling game he will keep losing. And if he keeps losing he will be jettisoned from the UFC. But at least he will have been exciting for the fans. He’ll be out of the big leagues but who cares about that.
by dedstrk316 on May 24, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has T-Rex arms.
It is like watching a T-Rex try to box a stegasaurus instead of biting him.
It is illogical.
I prefered the boring successful great wrestler Sean Sherk over the mildly entertaining unsuccessful arm punching Sean Sherk.
One of them made me respect his wrestling, the other makes me frustrated.
by DirtyML on May 24, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Ubernoober on May 24, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Article!
Who do you think would win a sparing match? Sherk or the man he constantly bad mouths, Aoki?
by bignerd on May 25, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk 11 times out of 10...
but me outboxing a 6 year old doesn’t make my boxing worth a shit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 25, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
That had to be said.
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by Blackout612 on May 25, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say Aoki subs him.
That is, if he gets to utilize his magic guard pants.
In all seriousness, Sherk is probably has sub defense that is good enough for Aoki to submit, considering how physically powerful he is. And his wrestling is likely too good for him to be taken down by Shinya. I say Sherk by (T)KO
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by ElliotMatheny on May 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typo
I was trying to say that Aoki probably couldn’t sub Sherk. Syntax fail
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by ElliotMatheny on May 26, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve said it before, and will again:
I love Paul Buentello.
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by BadB on May 25, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ sherk's t-rex arms
and I 100% agree with that statement. This is the main problem with his striking.
Watching him fling those little nubs around is very entertaining, but also very inefficient.
by virginiatech on May 25, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To add to "He has no knockout power," Sherk also throws 'arm' punches
I could be wrong here, but I don’t see great punching technique in Sean Sherk’s punches. He seems to throw arm punches instead of putting his hips into it. Add to the fact that he has short arms, and it just makes him having no knockout power.
by chrisbboy82 on May 25, 2009 4:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Goldberg saying “wow Sherk punches so hard, but he has no knockouts” made me chuckle. It’s like golf, swinging as hard as you can doesn’t mean you drive the ball very far, especially when it’s someone swinging only with their arms.
by Michael Rome on May 25, 2009 5:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The real problem with Sherk:
He never, ever, ever changes his gameplan. No matter how badly he’s doing, he’ll never switch things up. Even after a loss.
If I’m fighting someone and they’re beating me at what I thought I could beat them with, I change. I have to change. There has to be a plan B. But there never is with Sherk.
He lost to Penn in the exact same way he lost to Edgar – stand still, take blows, throw punches that don’t hurt, get ass kicked, come out for next round doing the exact same thing.
Yes, Sherk got a win against Tyson Griffin after the Penn fight, but Griffin’s a guy with the exact same problems Sherk has – he thinks he’s Marvelous Marvin Hagler when he’s closer to Fred Savage.
So basically, for Sherk, you’re looking at nine straight rounds of stand and trade with no knockouts, and rounds only won against a guy who is You Lite.
That’s more than stupid. At that point, you have to start pointing fingers not just at Sherk’s lack of smarts, but at his corner’s stupidity too.
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by Ozzz on May 25, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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