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Bloody Elbow Exclusive Interview: Tom Atencio Talks Affliction 3, Fedor, Kimbo, and a Possible Fourth Show at NYE

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A few days ago, I made a couple of posts on the conversations I had with Tom Atencio on twitter. I figured that he must've read these posts, because a few hours before UFC 98, he sent me a private message asking me if I wanted to do a real interview this time. Of course I obliged, and this time, i got to speak to him on various topics such as his fighting career, Affliction 3, WAMMA, Fedor, Kimbo, and a possible fourth show at NYE.

Here's how everything went:

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Anton Tabuena: How's Affliction 3 coming along? I've heard that Hieron/Daley has been signed, and Fedor/Barnett has been verbally agreed on. Is it close to being finalized?

Tom Atencio: We are very close to getting things finalized ! event contracts have been handed out to some fighters, we are progressing for sure !

Anton Tabuena: What other fights are you trying to setup? I've also heard about Buentello/Sylvia being made if tim wins against mercer, any truth to that?

Tom Atencio: Sylvia/Buentello would be a fight i would also like to see ! there is truth to it ! ha ha ! thats how far i will go with that !

Tom Atencio: I'd also like to make Chris/Dan lauzon but you know chris is fighting in July so that makes it a little bit hard on that !

Anton Tabuena: I know u are taking it one show at a time, but after the fight with Josh Barnett, the line of HW challengers for Fedor gets shorter. Do you have any ideas on the next possible contenders?

Tom Atencio: Trust me, his opponents are endless.. he can head over to japan, he can fight here, trust me there is and will always be a contender for him.... While he is the champion that is.

Anton Tabuena: With the top WAMMA officials like Sam Caplan and Pat Miletich stepping down, it seems like the company is in trouble. Would you still continue using their belt? or would you consider putting up your own promotional belt in the future?

Tom Atencio: We'll talk with them and see what happens with that issue, im not going to say much about it now.

Tom Atencio: That is also a possibility, we'll see what happens with WAMMA first.

Anton Tabuena: How about the other weight classes? Are you guys planning to build up contenders to fight for an "Affliction Championship"?

Tom Atencio: I haven't even thought about that to be honest. It could be a possiblity I would say.

Anton Tabuena: aside from the ones you mentioned, any other fights youre trying to put up?

Tom Atencio: I'm not going to tell you the fights, but Vitor is in talks with us right now for august

Anton Tabuena: have you read about the things Dana White said about not wanting to fight you?

Tom Atencio: What do you want me to say ? Typical Dana, what about do you want to know what i think?

Anton Tabuena: Well he said, "why would I fight this goof? He’s neither a fighter nor a promoter. He’s a fuckin’ loser. That’s all he is." Any thoughts on that?

Tom Atencio: lol that is typical Dana, not much to say about it.. im a promoter..im a fighter.. some things he says just makes you think and wonder

Anton Tabuena: What can you say about the people who are saying that you guys have the wrong business model and that you wont last another show?

Tom Atencio: we arent going anywhere ! we have great support.. we have billionaires supporting us... how can you go under like that?

Anton Tabuena: But if you keep on losing money their support certainly wont last long right?

Tom Atencio: Obviously you got to make money at some point but when you have billionaires supporting you.. its very hard to go anywhere .... !

Anton Tabuena: Cause that's what some people are saying, that affliction spends too much and is burning millions, while guys like strikeforce do well cause of their business model. Any thoughts on that?

Tom Atencio: Everyone has a different way to do things... we do it the way we want, thats what it comes down to really

Anton Tabuena: Yeah, and it wouldn't hurt business that you guys have the best fighter in the planet right? haha.

Tom Atencio: ha ha

Anton Tabuena: Also, I heard that Kimbo Slice is officialy a free agent. Would you guys be interested in signing him?

Tom Atencio: Hard question to answer.. I admire the guy, elitexc toyed with him.. but would i sign him? Who is there for him to fight right now ?

Anton Tabuena: I dont know.. I think he costs too much, and he doesn't fight that well, but he could be a draw for sure and he could help get more fans in..

Tom Atencio: Right now, if I signed him, who could he fight? He needs more fights and experience before i place him in with arlovski or a fedor type !

Anton Tabuena: You could just put him against people his level to begin with and of course, not on the main event.. He'd still draw ppv buyers no matter what right?

Tom Atencio: Yeah your right, but again, who is there for him to fight in his career right now in affliction? ...We have some of the top HW's in affliction, putting kimbo in the mix wouldn't be a good idea... not at all ha !

Anton Tabuena: The second show got moved, and plans to have it in vegas got scratched.. What happened there really?

Tom Atencio: Rushed the gun a little bit i would say with that, thats really about it.

Anton Tabuena: You said that the third show would be in Anaheim, what venue are you guys planning to use?

Tom Atencio: It will probably be the venue we used for the past 2 fights... (honda center)

Anton Tabuena: How's the financial part of the business going for a possible fourth show?

Tom Atencio: I'm not getting into financial info with you ofcourse, but if things go good in aug, maybe december NYE could be an option.. wait and see !

Anton Tabuena: Okay, i've got to ask again, any other participants youre planning to add to the third show aside from those you mentioned?

Tom Atencio: I'm not going to release anymore information.. I gave you a bit already ! ha ha! it will be good tho ! trust me

Anton Tabuena: okay, sure. i hope its really good too. so far i've got Josh Barnett, Fedor, Tim Sylvia, Paul Buentello, Vitor Belfort, Jay Hieron, Paul Daley, Dan Lauzon, and Chris Hordecki (if he doesn't get hurt)? correct?

Tom Atencio: Like i said, nothing is official until contracts are signed, but its looking that way..

Anton Tabuena: Cool. If that pulls through, it would certainly be a stacked card again. :)

Tom Atencio: We aim to please the fans everywhere ... that's what affliction is about!

Anton Tabuena: With the busy schedule you have, I'm surprised that you still have the time to train for a fight. How do you manage that? and who do you train with and where?

Tom Atencio: tracey hess trains with me.. Rafael Cordero helps me out.. some good guys for sure !

Tom Atencio: About making time.. it's hard but i manage to do it.. There's always something going on.. so it's not easy but doable!

Anton Tabuena: That's good to hear. Do you plan to continue fighting after this one? or is this the last time we get to see you step in the ring?

Tom Atencio: I'm getting older so it just depends.. win maybe i can fight a few, lose, yeah, will probably be my last...

Anton Tabuena: Thanks, yeah, i actually got a lot of good stuff. okay last two, what round will you beat your opponent and how? ....and Evans or Machida?

Tom Atencio: Machida/Evans not sure, if i had to pick, i would go with machida, my fight? im not prediciting it.. good fight tho for sure !

Anton Tabuena: Okay, thanks for making the time to speak with me. I hope you do well on your fight, and i hope we'd get to see more Affliction shows. :)

Tom Atencio: we arent going anywhere.. no problem ! thanks ! ignore the rumors too ! ha ha !  

Anton Tabuena: Thanks again! it is really appreciated. 

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The whole interview happened via direct messages from twitter. 

I had to squeeze in all my questions into 140 characters, so doing it on twitter probably wasn't the best idea. But it must've been a hassle for Tom also, so I'm not complaining. I'm just thankful he made the time and I was able to get a lot of questions in.

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

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luke and the guys,

would it be okay if i changed the title to ‘Bloody Elbow Exclusive: An Interv……’?

im not gonna post this anywhere else anyway. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 4:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh and tom got the machida prediction right. haha. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 4:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Billionaires are backing him? He must think your a complete idiot.

You wanna know the reality:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124261067783429043.html

They are paying trump so they can tell guys like you “billionaires are backing us… Ha! Ha! keep slobbering over me while I try to tool you”.

by mmalogic on May 24, 2009 5:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well i asked and he answered, i just posted what he said. haha.

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

:) didnt mean to make it sound like Im taking it out on you… Keep up the good work. Your fanposts are always worth reading.

by mmalogic on May 24, 2009 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trump is a completle joke, wonder what other “billionaire’s” he is claiming are backing him? It would be great to think there was some magical money tree propping up Affliction MMA but that’s just a real tough cookie to try and swallow, particularly in the current economic climate. Still if there is some moronic money bag out there willing to pump his millions into allowing hardcore fans to see another Affliction show or two then I’m not going to argue against him doing it.

by who me on May 25, 2009 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh and apologies for the scattered topics while questioning.. It was impromptu so I wasn’t able to plan anything.

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And Is it too long? I can trim the fat or just make a summary of it.

If it would make the post better. I’m no expert so I’m really open to suggestions here :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d keep it how it is. Being too long is always better than cutting an interview short, at least in my opinion.

by Swordslasher on May 24, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Good read man! Supremacy is dying of jelousy right now :P

jk, Supremacy :)

If you get a chance, ask…

Are they going to be promoting with GoldenBoy again?
Are they trying to work out some kind of TV deal with anyone? HBO, TNT, USA, FOX, NBC?
Does he hate mmalogic? :P
Are they dead set on a ring over a cage? Does he not know Cage > Ring?
He knows not to go head to head with Golden Boy boxing again, right?
Michael Buffer ring announcer?
Undercard on HDNet again?
Can they get Max Kellerman to do announcing?

Tom if you are reading please answer! :)

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on May 24, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

http://twitter.com/xFenixKnightx :)

I hardly use it though.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on May 24, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

 I missed asking a lot of good questions (like some of those you mentioned) so sorry about that.

But thanks, I’m glad you liked this post.. Not a lot of people seem to think the same though..

by Anton Tabuena on May 24, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s a mindfuck: He is mmalogic!

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on May 24, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely Not!

I am actually very happy weoweoweo did this.
=)

This is great and I encourage all to do the same and take interest and enjoy all MMA!

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I encourage all to do the same and take interest and enjoy all MMA!

Agreed!

Choi’d!

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on May 25, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually think it would be a really smart move for them to sign Kimbo ( at a lower price than he was making of course) In no way do I think he is a factor in MMA but he would help get ppv buys which would mean more people would see Fedor fight and if they do that could only be good for Affliction.

by xbuckeyex05 on May 24, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Awesome interview

by ThaSandman on May 24, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is not a shot at you weoweoweo so please don’t take it that way, because obviously you can only report what he tells you, but why would he go out of his way to ask if you would like an interview then basically sidestep all the important questions you ask him? He won’t talk about any fights other than the ones that have already been widely reported, he doesn’t want to discuss WAMMA, it seems to me he is just doing stuff like this to get some free pub for Affliction and keep their name in the headlines while they are in another 6 month waiting period between events.

by ufc4 on May 25, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dont worry, i didn’t take it as that.. :)

Sure he didn’t give out anything that “Huge”, but i think it’s okay cause he answered stuff and gave out a few names.. before, all we have is rumors from second or third hand sources. things some “source” said to another guy, and at least this time, were getting it straight from him, so i think it helps.. even a bit..

plus, he knows im just a random mma fan on twitter. so him being a VP of a company, naturally wouldn’t just give out the extremely juicy bits to random people..

but yeah, i get your point. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 25, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s basically a cock tease… but its a cock tease by an ugly chick so he knows most wouldnt put up with this shit so he finds someone green who’s never seen a pair o tits in his life.

by mmalogic on May 25, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so i saw the first boobs i was able to see was from an ugly chick? haha. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 25, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, now go jerk off and get it over with :)

Next time your standards will improve.

by mmalogic on May 25, 2009 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey weoweweo, Good Job!

I am actually really glad you did this and I think it was a great interview, taking into account that you had no preparation for it.

I would like to mention something about this comment:

But thanks, I’m glad you liked this post.. Not a lot of people seem to think the same though..

This post was really goodt, don’t get it twisted, even if you get this type of reaction.
Here you are getting an exclusive interview with Tom Atencio about Affliction 3 and are willing to write a fan post and provide an exclusive to BE and its community of MMA fans, and what do you get?

1) Not Front Page Worthy Material
2) About 10 comments, which includes the usual posters who loathe Affliction and either only post when the word Affliction is mentioned in any post or post something negative about them.
3) More criticism on your fan post about the person you interviewed and if you ever post anything else about Affliction, you will be labeled an Affliction mouth piece and/or anti-UFC.

=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 3:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you supremacy. :)

3. Well hopefully i dont get labeled like that..
2. i’m kinda surprised that the first two twitter conversations even got more attention than this actual interview.. haha.
1. Well the staff decides who and what gets fronted, so it’s their call… I’m just happy i was able to post this.. :)

by Anton Tabuena on May 25, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I guess I would say to that:

1. BE never posts full interviews on the front page and its getting good attention as a recommended fanpost
2. Those 10 commenters you speak of I doubt are a representation of the whole of BE. The interview didn’t break that much ground and just really confirmed a lot of what was already known. The only real new comment anyone could provide would be “well done weo”. I shall take this time to say, “well done weo”.
3. Once again not a representation of all of BE, thats just you being sour because mmalogic and subo keep picking on you. I think you all need to just chillax and enjoy Fedor vs. Barnett.

by SamCupitt on May 25, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3) Actually, Subo and I are on good terms and we understand each other. Its all fun and games between us. I’m not going to even mention the zuffa worker who search-bot’s the word affliction around the internet to forever smear their name.

I do agree though, that people need to relax about everything and enjoy the mega cards that Affliction puts for us every 6 months.

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Be honest

While everyone else discusses MMA in a mostly lateral manner, you come along sore-assed most of the time saying that everyone hates Affliction, when you have the abundantly clear anti-promotional viewpoints and supposed agenda. I give you grief because it’s such a deliberate song-and-dance, despite your often quality information. The fact that your merely mentioning that you enjoyed the Machida fight blew my mind is very telling. Your anti-Zuffa mentality is one thing, but when you do this MMA-snob shit about how people are UFC whores around here it doubles the effect. You’re really only talking about one person and we all know who that is. Maybe you should be more clear about that.

I poop rainbows.

by Blackout612 on May 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Could Agree With That...

But this whole anit-UFC things is silly.

I am not anti anything MMA, and watch everything. It just so happens that I post news about things that I feel don’t get enough attention in MMA, which is one of the reasons I really enjoy Chris Nelson’s posts.

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is though, you only post things that are anti-UFC or pro-everyone else.

You made at least 2 posts talking about how bad the UFC was for having illegal* advertisers when the Full Tilt stuff first popped up, but after Full Tilt and the UFC separated, and Full Tilt started started popping up at every other fight card.

You don’t have to post every story, but when you start posting a story, post all the sides, not just the anti-Zuffa sides, and people will take you more seriously.

by Phildo on May 26, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Affliction but don’t like their lying mouth piece.

I don’t like Titos mouth but he can fight.

Rashad is a cocky asshole but is an Ex champ.

See how this works? Just because I don’t like Tom doesn’t mean I am a UFC nuthugger. Disliking Rashad doesn’t make me racist. Tito…well fuck Tito.

The only person who is more overrated than Griffin and Rashad is Barnett.

by Riney on May 25, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give Barnett a chance against Fedor first before calling him that.
Its not like there are any HW’s out there that have a better resume than Barnett in the first place.

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on

Barnett couldn’t finish Yvel from the mount, what is he possibly going to do against Fedor?

by ufc4 on May 25, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’ really like Rashad either, but I respect his fighting ability and he definitely showed heart against Machida. Can’t fault him for that.

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 25, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

look at what i found. hahaha.

yeah i know they feature all fedor news.. and bloodyelbow is really that big.. i just thought it was nice that they’d feature a fanpost of mine. :)

ok ill stop patting my back. it sounds lame already. hahaha.

by Anton Tabuena on May 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You are coming close to my fine line!
Don’t cross it!
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 27, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's "your" fine line?

it’s lame i know! and i just wanted to share it… but now i sort of regret posting it. hahaha.

by Anton Tabuena on May 27, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey weoweoweo

Did you notice that the Affliction twitter is gone?
You should look into that and let me know.

by MMASuPreMaCy on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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