Strikeforce in Dialog With Young and Modafferi, Showtime Encouraged By "Challengers" Series
MMAJunkie reports that Strikeforce is in talks with two of the best female prospects not on their roster, Kaitlin Young (4-2) and Roxanne Modafferi (13-4).
Mike Afromowitz, Strikeforce's director of communications, today confirmed the organization's interest in Modafferi, though he stressed any potential deal was far from done.
"There's dialogue between Strikeforce and Roxanne's manager," Afromowitz said. "It's only dialogue right now, though."
Strikeforce's interest comes on the heels of Modafferi's recent open campaign to join the organization. The Japanese resident is currently ranked No. 3 in the 135-pound division by WAMMA.
Modafferi is currently riding a six-fight win streak, including victories over Vanessa Porto and WAMMA's No. 2-ranked featherweight Marloes Coenen.
On a recent media call promo ting the May 15 event, Strikeforce CEO confirmed h is inter est in EliteXC, BodogFIGHT and Hook 'N' Shoot veteran Kaitlin Young.
"We will have dialogue with Kaitlin Young and probably get her into the mix," Coker said.
For those that missed it, Roxy publicly challenged Shayna Baszler on myspace and made it clear that she wants revenge and is willing to go and fight in Strikeforce to get it. Fightlinker had its own comments on the issue, and mentions that Strikeforce has a great fight if they want one in Shayna vs Roxy.
I can make things very easy for Strikeforce. There’s a more than fitting opponent waiting and ready to fight Baszler already: Roxanne Modafferi. Ya know, the top ranked female fighter? Here’s Roxy calling Shayna out yesterday:
"But I think that Kaufman and Tate should be able to relax and take it easy for a while after putting on the exciting fight May 15th. I will gladly face Shayna for them. It’s really no problem at all.
In fact, Shayna chicken winged me in BODOG a few years ago.
I want revenge.
I believe I can win. I don’t want an easy fight…I want a war. Will you go to war with me in the cage, Shayna?"
Either way, if Strikeforce can sign both Young and Modafferi, their stable of female fighters will get that much more complete and Strikeforce (with the signing of Gina which seems to be inevitable) will be considered the pinnacle of MMA. Here is Strikeforce's rumored female roster:
Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos
Miesha Tate
Erin Toughill
Kim Couture
Shayna Baszler
Tonya Evinger
Julie Kedzie
Debi Purcell
Sarah Kaufman
Hitomi Akano
Carina Damm
Melanie Lacroix
Michelle Waterson
Jan Finney
Katrina Alendal
Not Yet Signed. In Talks Or Some Relationship:
Gina Carano
Marloes Coenen
Rosi Sexton
Takayo Hashi
Yoko Takahashi
Keiko Tamai
Roxanne Modafferi
Kaitlin Young
In other news, Showtime and Ken Hershman seemed to be very happy about Strikeforce and their "Challenger" series on their network. Hershman has this to say about the success of MMA on Showtime and the great numbers Strikeforce is already putting up:
A longtime broadcaster of championship boxing, Hershman said he's been impressed with the market share MMA has been able to gain.
"Mixed martial arts continues to surprise me with its strength compared to our boxing franchise," Hershman said. "It's right up there with the top boxing events that we do. We look for sustained growth from [MMA]."
And apparently, he has plenty to be happy about:
Showtime's broadcast of the April 11 "Shamrock vs. Diaz" event from San Jose, Calif., registered as the second-highest rated MMA event ever broadcast on the network. While the "Strikeforce Challengers" shows aren't expected to draw the same type of ratings as the larger shows, Hershman is still encouraged by what the new series will represent.
"The 'Challenger Series' is going to be on Friday night at 11 p.m." Hershman said. "It's a different audience, different HUT levels, so the two aren't really apples-to-apples. We'll look at it much more akin to our ShoBox series, and those have a very nice, steady audience – very, very reliable group of fans.
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While premium-cable networks focus more on subscriptions than ratings, Hershman believes MMA has been an important part of Showtime's recent growth.
"We never really can tie any increase in subscriptions to any particular program, whether it be an original series or a sporting series such as Strikforce," Hershman said. "One thing I'll tell you is that in the last two years, Showtime subscriptions are up well over two million subscribers, and that's a testament just to the great programming, including mixed martial arts and boxing, that we have on the the network.
"The other thing, in terms of the male 18-to-34-year-old demo, the Strikeforce show did garner almost nearly half of the audience of 18-to-34-year-old males, which is a very, very significant number for us. No programming on Showtime draws that kind of number. So, in terms of hitting the demo, it does so dead on."
Another difference between the previous regime and Strikeforce is that their "Challenger" Series will be a bit bigger and more revenue oriented than what the ShoXC's were to EliteXC. Coker discussed the differences with MMAJunkie, boasting at the fact that they have already sold 2,400 tickets for the May "Challengers" event in Fresno, which is their smaller development show. In contrast, EliteXC in Stockton for their second CBS show only sold 3,701 tickets and had a total attendance of 6,518 for one of their bigger events.
"The arena is set up for 4,500 seats," Coker recently told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "We're approaching the 2,400 (tickets sold) mark. I think we have a really good chance to have a really good crowd at that venue."
While the "Strikeforce Challengers" shows will feature smaller crowds and focus on developing new talent within the organization, Coker said he doesn't want to skimp on the quality of venues Strikeforce books for the shows.
"I know that the past regime used to go to mostly Indian reservation casinos or some different types of casinos where they were in a ballroom that sat 1,500 or 1,800 (people), something like that," Coker said.
"But we, for the first two shows on May 15 and the second show on June 19 – which will be in Kent, Wash., and Joey Villasenor is going to fight 'Cyborg' Santos in the main event, and that's 'Cyborg's' husband, not the wife – on those two shows we've chosen to go into these venues that we're going to set up for 4,000 to 5,000 (seats)."
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Good news.
What I think would be cool is an Open weight GP for Women’s MMA, but it probably wouldn’t be able to happen. At any rate, a tournament format could sort out where the women stand in the MMA world.
And it’s good that Showtime and SF have a good relationship.
Supporting all Las Vegas MMA.
'09 is the year of the FW's.
It would be nice to have a Bellator like GP to build the women’s divisions, but I think SF is going to take it slow and build their fighters slowly. It is pretty good to hear that Showtime is very happy with Strikeforce and the numbers they are getting already.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news. Roxy and Kaitlin are two of my favorite female fighters to watch.
What’s up with Takayo Hashi and Tama Chan? Didn’t know they were with Strikeforce. Hashi just fought for Valkyrie a few weeks ago.
Well, they both fought for EliteXC, so Coker could have taken their contracts if he wanted to, although, I am not sure that he did.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 12, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Already boasting a deep roster of female fighters, Los Angeles-based Elite Xtreme Combat recently added more depth with the signings of Marloes Coenen, Sarah Kaufman, and Takayo Hashi to multi-fight contracts.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 12, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. I hope they use Coenen and Hashi soon.
by Chris Nelson on May 12, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nice
The female division could have some real depth to it, well beyond the clear money matchup of Gina/Cyborg. And yes, I have rec’d you.
I poop rainbows.
Good stuff. I’m getting pretty excited about this Strikeforce women’s division. Hopefully they won’t have to pull too many more Akano/Cyborg matches now.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Hopefully with the addition of more quality female fighters to their roster, there shouldn’t be a need to, but I will take it as a growing pain for all the divisions at the moment, since they are not established yet.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 12, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t sleep on up and comer Cat Albert.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/1/29/740413/on-the-spot-cat-albert
Would love to see her join those fighters and Coker has a working relationship with Sven Bean.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
There ain’t nothin wrong with Kaitlin Young.
Yeah, who got the final Death Blow? 'Cause I thought that Hawaiian guy had it comin' to him. - C. K.
by monkeyfightclub! on May 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
It sort of pisses me off...
…that these women make a FRACTION of what the guys do. True, women will probably never headline an event, but lets face it, Gina Corrono was the second biggest draw for Elite XC after Kimbo’s useless ass.
On Inside MMA they showed the payouts from Elite XC and I was stunned to learn that while Kimbo made like $300k Gina made like $20k and the girl she fought got like $6k! I know they are not as important to the sport as a whole, but come on! That was fucked up and wrong.
Just my opinion.
In general, the females make less because they generate less money for their orgs, but I believe a fight like Gina vs Cyborg will REALLY start to bump that up. You also have to understand that when the women fight for Strikeforce, they will be on Showtime, so their sponsors pay them much more than fighting in Japan or fighting in some dark match underground show.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on sister!!!
Lets go burn our bras and grow out our pit hair!!!
by Gunslinger20 on May 14, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHA! Good one.
That is a good joke.
I wanted to just point that out. I know they don’t generate as much so therefore shouldn’t be paid as much. I get it and, in spite of our current governmental attitude, I still believe in capitalism. I was just stunned that they made SO MUCH less. That is all.
I’m sure as women increase in skill and name that will change.
Just wait until Gina fights next time and well see how much she is getting paid.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry…. I understand that you are trying to come off as a socially enlightened person here and I applaud you for it…. but Women’s MMA will be nothing more than a novelty act to fill in cards or to keep women’s activist groups happy.
I don’t see women’s MMA ever being very big….. once Gina Carano vs Cyborg happens…. there is nothing left.
The only way I see Gina Carano making more money than Fedor or anyone other upper echelon fighter is if she were to fight naked… maybe chauvenistic…. but its the truth.
The WNBA does nothing, Pro Softball does nothing, Pro Soccer does nothing, Women’s boxing does nothing unless its on a Girls Gone Wild DVD. Its just not going to happen.
by Gunslinger20 on May 14, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No one is saying that Gina will get paid more than Fedor, BJ, GSP, etc, but she will get paid a lot more than what other females have been getting paid so far.
And the whole interest is all moot in my view. A few years ago everyone agreed that there was no interest in seeing a bunch of 135 lb man boys fighting in a ring, and look what ZUFFA and the WEC have done through Faber and now some other names like Torres.
I agree all female leagues etc wont ever make it big time and struggle just to survive, but I see nothing wrong with having some exciting and big women fights on some cards and them making some money out of it through sponsors, etc, even if their base pay is not as high as it should.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Holy shit you praised Zuffa
And I think women’s MMA can go farther than WNBA, LPGA etc because (most) people like watching attractive women fight.
by Derek Suboticki on May 14, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep telling everyone I am not Anti-Zuffa, and I also think that MMA is new enough that women can make their mark now while MMA is on the rise, rather than trying to do it later when the sport is already established and fans get used to only being one kind of fighting, etc.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I rec’d your post. Now I feel confused. I’m going to examine my life for a while.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
I actually recommend that to all people who Rec my posts.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I took a shower, but they don’t make water hot enough!
by Derek Suboticki on May 14, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta rec that.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on May 14, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You proved my point
I agree all female leagues etc wont ever make it big time and struggle just to survive, but I see nothing wrong with having some exciting and big women fights on some cards and them making some money out of it through sponsors, etc, even if their base pay is not as high as it should.
The point I was making is that they are card fillers…. novelty acts to keep things spicy so to speak. Gina made that little money because that was the deal she signed…. Elite XC didn’t know she was going to blow up like she did and neither did she, but she signed it and had to deal with it. Could have Elite XC given her bonuses or whatever, yeah because she did great work and brought in tons of viewers….. but they weren’t bound to it and they were pissing money away on Kimbo and bull shit TV deals.
Some speak of equality and they should get paid the same…..they are getting paid around the same as many who are fighting but in regards to sponsors and stuff, no one is going to say I bought those new Tap Out shorts because they saw Katyln Young or Shayna Basler (sp?) wearing them. Why would they sponsor those that don’t bring them in new business? Well thats because no one is seeing them fight in the first place. No casual fan can name one female fighter outside of Gina Carano (maybe Cyborg)…. no “hardcore” fan can 10 to 15 female fighters that have made a true impact on the sport. Women’s MMA cannot be built around Gina Carano alone and she’s all that women’s MMA has right now.
If we see a women’s MMA fight on a UFC PPV card…well EVER… I’ll gladly admit I’m wrong.
by Gunslinger20 on May 15, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I wasn’t trying to say Gina or any woman should get paid more than Fedor or anyone in particular. I also wasn’t trying to come across like some feminist or make a political statement or anything like that. I believe it should be proportional to the interest or something like that. Elite XC had several great fighters, and several really good fights, but the two stars of the show was Kimbo and Gina. There should not be a dispute about that. Gina is very, very popular and I think there are people interested in watching the women fight as long as the quality stays high. No, people didn’t tune in only for Gina, but she was a big, big part of why people did (I believe). She deserved a bigger piece of the pie, in my opinion. If people in general couldn’t give a shit to see the women fight then they have no business being in the ring. I personally find them generally good, although usually really one-sided.
Like I said, I’m a capitalist. Someone should get paid what someone thinks they are worth. However, when the co-headline fight is with women, and the guys get 40X that amount, that just seems shitty.
Hey, you have to hit the reply button under the post you are replying to so your comments are easier to understand and keep track.
by MMASuPreMaCy on May 14, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy am I glad I’m married now and can think realistically without fear of never getting pussy again….
by Gunslinger20 on May 15, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions























