More on the UFC Undisputed Career Mode
by Michael Rome on Apr 8, 2009 3:57 PM EDT
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ESPN the Magazine interviews Neven Dravinski, producer of the UFC game:
The training you do in the career mode is fighting like you would in a real fight. So if you have a fight coming up, and you're a boxing/wrestler guy and you're next opponent is a Muay Thai guy, then your training partner will be a Muay Thai fighter, so you can train against those moves. There's a whole interactive calendar system where you know your fight is in a couple of weeks and you'll need to pick where you'll train, where you'll spar and where you should rest in order to build up your stamina. It's like a game within the game where you might want to risk training right before a fight, losing out on some of your stamina, but at the same time gaining valuable points on your standing game.
Read the whole thing, lots of interesting information. I like the way they are handling the training; excessive time spent in training is annoying. He also covers blood in the game, fight length, and announcing.
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I don’t know if anyone here ever played Ready 2 Rumble boxing for Dreamcast, but i nearly went insane doing the training drills. This is very, very good news. We’re all going to have our criticisms of the game (I want JKD/Sambo, damnit), but I’m buying a second controller the day it comes out.
JEET KUN DO
Alright, I think if your biggest complaint is the exclusion of JEET KUN DO, then the game’s probably going to be pretty great.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
Yeah
I’ve practiced jeet kune do, and not even I want it in the game. It’s too far reaching, given how exclusively its techniques are applied in MMA. At that rate, you could include Sumo, too. Maybe in future iterations there will be more specified arts, which can apply minimal bonuses and maneuvers to your character. This is the first title in a series that plans (hopes) to go on for many years.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
It’s kinda sad that they don’t have Greco, but I can understand it.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
The one thing all UFC video games to date have in common? They all suck.
Umm…the Dreamcast version called and wants to have a talk with you
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
You havent noticed Dana say this every time he talks about the game…it’s one of his talking points he tries to infect journalists with.
I honestly hadn't noticed until now.
The Dreamcast game was great at the time and hugely popular.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 8, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I tihnk its just hyperbole on his part. Everythings always ‘the best yet’, ‘the first time its been done right’ etc, just look at the what he says before every season of TUF.
Never did play the DC game though.
How long does the average fight in the game last?
It really just depends. If I’m fighting my lead designer in the office, there is a lot of back and forth. There are a lot of tension-filled fights where you feel the fight can end at any moment. You get him in a submission, but then he pulls out and tries to knock you out. Then again, there are fights that end really quickly. We have a lot of attributes that differentiate each fighter from striking offense and defense to grappling offense and defense, so there are a lot of variables involved. As a result, you can get a flash knockout. Typical fighting games can be rigid, where you’re health is down, then you get hit one more time and you die. But with us, it’s a lot more loose, like a real fight. If a guy slips a punch, then I come in and catch him, that may result in a flash knockout. Just like the real UFC, if you get caught, you get caught. But at the same time, if you’re fighting someone really good, and you both understand the control scheme, the fight could go the distance.
Oh my god…that’s been my biggest concern and now that I know that if you both know what you’re doing it could go the distance…I’m fucking excited.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 8, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously
I want Cecil to wildly differentiate from the other judges.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Charles Awad on Apr 9, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So I read that article in its entirety…. I’m thinking you can only use a created fighter in Career Mode and not get to use any of the real fighters in a career setting….
Hope I’m wrong…
I think this is right. Career mode is only with created, but you can do online modes and everything else with established fighters.
Look on the bright side, within 2 days of this coming out there will be “Fedor” models all over the place.
Have to hope for more options and game modes in the sequels.
How about a “Title Defense/Survival” mode, where you see how many challengers you can consecutively dispatch as the game ramps up their stats each time. Or maybe that’s how the career mode ends anyway. The final challenger will have all six game styles and the announcers will talk about how you’re a relic from another era, with your two.
Exactly
They had to build the entire engine and game from the ground up for this title. I think stand alone it is a great looking game and a lot of fun in its own right. But look at what they’ll be able to do in the coming years with the groundwork of the franchise already laid… it should be amazing.
Plus, the development team is full of hardcore MMA fans. They want to add in the same stuff we want. It’s just a matter of prioritizing and time for this first go around. Which isn’t to imply this game is bad, it’s not, it is a lot of fun. Just that future incarnations will have this base to build upon.
Well that sucks...
At least in FN3 you could start at the beginning with whatever boxer you choose and then work their way up…
Oh well, guess that just invites ya to play all the other modes if you wanna use the real fighters.
lolz
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 8, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I’m not a big fan of videogame training. I really hated the training in Fight Night R3. To each his own, I will still PWN you!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
yeah but FNR3 was TERRIBLE when it came to training. There are a lot of interesting ways to make training fun and an important part of the game but EA screwed the pooch on FNR3.
It sounds like THQ tried to add something in Undisputed to make it a little more interesting with the minigame
FNR3 remained a great game
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 9, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I’m so worried that the submission part of the game is going to suck…and if non-Jujitsu guys like Matt Hughes can still do Kimuras and Keylocks.
I think that kind of stuff should be safe
Seems that you will have two dominant styles, but can learn maneuvers in all of them. The pro fighters will hopefully reflect that accurately.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
Crisis averted
And we don’t have any cheesy mini-games where you mash the buttons to push a weight bar up.
This was my primary concern when reading reports about the training mode. I’m still skeptical (and likely will be until I get a hands on), but that gets the worst of it out of the way.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
Well, if I understand it correctly, it sounds like it won’t be too bad. More like a short fight where you work on whatever skillset your opponent will be throwing at you, which is actually useful, rather than doing little mini games to earn points.
In theory it should work nicely, but, we won’t really know until we find out.
I’m so pumped about the demo coming it’s not even funny. haha
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 8, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds alright, but I rarely come across a training mode that I don’t set to “simulate” just so I can get to the meat of the game. Like I said in another thread, I’m hoping the game is more about your ability to handle the fighting mechanics and learn the proper techniques than it is about leveling up your fighter so that you can be more powerful than less seasoned characters. So more Soul Calibur and less WoW. Though, it is beginning to seem that this is relegated to the story mode experience. Are custom characters useable in online matches? Is there a ceiling to the progression of their abilities? I feel that no custom character should be able to exceed the abilities of the better UFC personalities. If some kid can grind for a week and turn out the Ultimate Ultimate Fighter, who can walk through the likes of Rampage, Anderson Silva and GSP, I’ll immediately be turned off.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
I agree, and from the sounds of things, thats the plan. I mean, they have to in some way let you increase your characters stats, just because they haven’t made the fighters organic and the “points” won’t regulate themselves…but from the sounds of things the real deciding factor in a fully devolped create a character vs. create a character is they player’s skill. I say this because homeboy said that if he and a programmer went at it, they have a good chance of going the distance rather than the fight ending in a quick fashion.
I hope that is true, but to be honest, I’m gonna pick the game up one way or another…but I’d definately enjoy a game that envolved the use of one’s skill rather than a game that just depended on point alottment and whoever lands the biggest shot first.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 8, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The game will be complete trash and repetitive in game play. I recommend renting the game before buying it.
That’s quite an assertion to make without having played the game.
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You did
Will be and are = worlds apart.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
Man we are on the same page, I was saying the same thing when I read these comments. lol
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 8, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve beta tested the game and all I can say is repetitive"game will get old quickly".. The gameplay and controls won’t drastically change from the beta version, if so i’d be shocked. Graphics on the other hand are amazing on a HD set, but I wouldn’t preorder until you d/l the demo in a few weeks.
No doubt.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
Alright, be warned. Go drop $60 on the game you won’t be playing in after a month. After that tell me how my pee pee tastes.
For realz?
In the likelihood that the game sucks, you won’t be vindicated. That’s like me saying the new Terminator movie was amazing at the screening I went to, you calling bullshit and me saying “When it’s awesome, come back and tell me how fragrant my balls are”. Also, at which point did I say I’m buying it?
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
Wowzers
You are officially the first person to say anything negative about this game. In fact, by having such an opposite take (saying people won’t even be playing in a month) on the game than anyone else, I wonder if you’re trolling….
by Brandon Starr on Apr 8, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, thought I'd share some good news and updates :
Demo will be out next week.
Confirmed by mmajunkie.com
“For the time being, interested gamers will have to rely on the “UFC 2009 Undisputed” official website for preview video and tutorials. But THQ officials announced that a playable demo of the game would be available “next week” on both the PlayStation Network and Xbox LIVE."
“THQ also confirmed that “UFC 2009 Undisputed” will be released on May 19 in the U.S. and May 22 in the U.K. With the game offering a huge step from past attempts at MMA video games, “UFC 2009 Undisputed” will undoubtedly soon prove to be a real jewel in the UFC’s merchandise crown."
Brian Boyle is a U.K.-based contributor for MMAjunkie.com.
Xbox 360 demos release on Tuesdays, so it looks like we should be playing by 4/14
Also, a bit of speculation, but I’ve got it from a good source, and he’s been right about everything else (he’s an online mma reporter who has been invited to two of the media events and has broken a lot of Undisputed news) :
I think I have the list of fighters available in the demo. From my ufcundisputed.com thread
BJ Penn (boxing/bjj)
Georges St-Pierre (kickboxing/wrestling)
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson (boxing/wrestling)
Forrest Griffin (kickboxing/bjj)
Wanderlei Silva (muay thai/bjj)
Rashad Evans (muay thai/wrestling)
Dan Henderson (boxing/wrestling)
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (boxing/bjj)
Frank Mir (kickboxing/bjj)
It looks like we’re missing one fighter to make it an even 10, but still – does this sound sick or what?
I know it sounds it bit too good to be true, but we have to remember there are 80 fighters in this game, so giving us an 1/8 (420!) sounds reasonable.
So there you have it. All of my most recent info, and trust me I’ve been stalking this game. And I’m ashamed enough as it is, so don’t rub it in.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
Why are you ashamed?
Now, I hope THQ gives us 1 whole fight. Not a 1 round type of deal.
The Bird is the Word.
Because....
I’ve spent way more time on a game that’s not even out yet than a 29 year old man should. But fuck it, I work from home anyways, so I have lots of spare time.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Apr 9, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It's getting very hard to be
pessimistic about this game. I have a feeling it’s not gonna leave my disc tray for awhile. Good info btw.
If you're gonna be dumb, ya gotta be tough.
by ThatGuyOverThere on Apr 8, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks
Updated though : Turns out that that’s the list of fighters on the demos that the media got to play, so we wont know if we’re getting the same version til next week.
Still possible though.
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
Forgive me for lacking a source but I heard somewhere that it was going to be 4 fighters on the demo, and chances are it would be the 4 big fights for the show in montreal…Chuck, Anderson Silva, Shogun, and Leites. Leites is in the game if I’m not mistaken…I’m too lazy to bother looking for the list…lol
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 8, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
that sounds a bit more logical than giving us all the biggest names
by Graven Image on Apr 9, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep. lol Makes sense for the press demos, but for the demo, it would make tons of sense to have the characters be the co-main and main events of the closest PPV.
I don’t care who it is really, I just want to play the damn thing.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 9, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
they could just have 2-4 made up fighters with awful stats for the demo. I just want to try it out
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 9, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
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