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Quote of the Day: The Croation Sensation Assesses Shamrock vs. Diaz

“Both Shamrock and Diaz have specific things they need to do to be successful"...

“Frank needs to stay completely out of Diaz’ range and use explosive entry on all his attacks. Hanging out at the end of Diaz’ long arms is asking for a long night. I would also suggest Frank use low kicks to take away Nick’s reach advantage while dealing with Nick’s busy style of striking.

“Diaz, on the other hand, needs Frank at arms’ length and should try to frustrate him with his reach. I think it would be wise for Nick to take Frank down if the opportunity presents itself. While both seem adept at scoring takedowns, I also see both guys having difficulty stopping them. The guy that controls this fight on the ground has the advantage.”

-- Pat Miletich talks the main event for this weekend's Strikeforce show.

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I think it’s more incumbent upon Diaz to get the fight to the ground with Shamrock, personally. Diaz’s striking just doesn’t really do it for me.

by Derek Suboticki on Apr 8, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

You and me both...

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He comes from that Stockton-Diaz

school of bitch slapping your opponent to death!

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree completely. Diaz’s boxing style involves constant pressure and a near 50/50 balance of strikes to the head and body.

Shamrock has looked lazy and uninterested in every fight over the last several years except for a post-roids Baroni with a half round gas tank. His defense, cardio and mental state are going to break under the pressure and varied attack that Diaz puts on him.

If anything, Frank needs to muscle Diaz down and hold a top position as long as he can if he’s serious about winning this fight.

by George Lucas on Apr 8, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frank went three rounds with Cung Le, and while he got his ass kicked, that still speaks to his ability to take a shot – something Diaz is tragically unable to deliver.

by Derek Suboticki on Apr 8, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah only elite fighters like Frank Shamrock, Tony Fryklund and Sammy Morgan can make it to the 3rd round against a beast like that!!

by George Lucas on Apr 8, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, the only way I see Shamrock losing to

Diaz is by sub. Shamrock has tons of experience & unless he gets caught with a sub he will pull out the decision.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t believe how many people underestimate Diaz here.
When was the last time Diaz was KO’ed or subbed?

I think Diaz will have a size advantage and will pressure Shamrock the entire fight.
It will be a good fight, and it’s very close to call.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 8, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I do not underestimate Diaz

but I do think he will have a hard time finishing Shamrock unless he catches an early sub. This probably goes to the decision.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 8, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Diaz is a better fighter than Cung Le...

and has a better Chin than most… His BJJ is good, and he’s damn hard to hurt… Frank seems too slow, and hasn’t been able to get many takedowns in the last few years… his standup is ok, but i think he lacks the explosiveness to use it effectively.

I think Diaz can take this, as long as his skin can stay uncut….

by Loot on Apr 8, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diaz better than Cung Le?

On the ground for sure, but no way standing. Le would absolutely destroy him on the feet & we all know how hard headed Diaz is so he would try to stand & bang with him.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 8, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cung Le, notable for fighting all of his fights entirely on his feet, has yet to fight anyone that can be considered legitimate competition. Saying he’d destroy a seasoned veteran of the sport in any aspect of the game is laughable.

by George Lucas on Apr 8, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said on the feet Le would destroy Diaz, which he would.

Diaz has no power and takes a beating in every fight on the feet. Do you not think that Le could do more damage to Diaz than Gomi did?

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 9, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it’s a long shot, but nothing would make me happier than to see Diaz on his back taking huge elbows to the face before being knocked unconscious. Realistically, I see Shamrock taking this by decision.

by cmsove on Apr 8, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I forgot about that rule. I can’t find anything about that rule changing. Guess I’ll have to settle for fantasizing about Diaz being knocked out cold via Shamrock’s fists. Not as painful as elbows, but I’ll live with it.

by cmsove on Apr 8, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So solid technical boxing fundamentals don’t do it for you?

by EazyEismydad on Apr 8, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops meant for the guy up top

by EazyEismydad on Apr 8, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Diaz’s boxing a ton but his head movement needs to catch up with his hands.

by George Lucas on Apr 8, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whooooa!

Diaz’s boxing is far from technically solid.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he tends to block punches with his face a bit too much.

by Patrick79x on Apr 9, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

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