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Adjusting for Era - Carlos Newton

Carlos_20newton_medium Career Record - 14 wins 13 losses

Prime Career Years - 1998 - 2002

Notable Wins - Pat Miletich (UFC 31, Submission), Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons (Pride 19, Submission)

Notable Losses - Dan Henderson (UFC 17, Decision), Kazushi Sakuraba (PRIDE 3, Submission), Dave Menne (Shidokan Jitsu - Warriors War 1, Decision), Matt Hughes x2 (UFC 34, KO  &  UFC 38, TKO), Anderson Silva (PRIDE 25, KO)

Career Retrospective - Arguably more than anyone else in MMA Carlos Newton is deserving of an article to set his place in history straight.  During his prime he fought the very cream of the crop in the welterweight division, basically breaking even and even winning the UFC Welterweight championship.  His love of anime and manga led to his fighting style of Dragonball Jiu-Jitsu which has caused many a newer fan to minimize just how good Newton was and thinking of him as some type of gimmick over substance fighter.  This simply was never the case.

Newton made his professional debut at the age of 19 against Jean Riviere in a heavyweight attraction.  Yes, career welterweight Newton debuted fighting a man who was announced as weighing over 280 lbs.  Newton fearlessly charged across the cage attempting a takedown, taking the big man's back standing, eventually going to the ground and taking the mount but in the end the size difference was too much to overcome and Newton's pace only served to gas himself out.  At slightly over seven minutes into the bout Newton submitted due to exhaustion.  The full fight against Riviere can be found in the extended entry.

Carlos would rebound with a win over the underrated Erik Paulson by armbar in under a minute and also grabbing a quick armbar victory over Kazuhiro Kusayanagi at a Shooto event.  The submission against Kusayanagi is a thing of beauty and can also be found in the extended entry.

In May of '98 Newton got the call up to "the show" to participate in a middleweight tournament (at this time in the UFC's history Middleweight went up to 205 pounds).  Still fighting above his natural weight Newton quickly submitted Bob Gilstrap with a triangle choke advancing to the tournament finals to take on Dan Henderson.  One of the highlights of the fight was Newton taking Henderson down with a slam marking one of the first times in the UFC that a jiu-jitsu guy took down a highly skilled wrestler.  They went through the full 12 minute regulation and into the 3 minute overtime.  During the overtime Newton dominated with leg kicks and came close to knocking Dan out with a very solid right hand.  Despite the overtime dominance Henderson was awarded a very close split decision.

Just over one month later Newton went to Japan to participate in PRIDE 3 against Kazushi Sakuraba.  In one of the more entertaining fights you could ever want to see the two battled back and forth on the ground with Newton regularly getting the best of Sakuraba before falling victim to a beautiful kneebar.

Following the loss Newton reeled off five wins before entering an eight man welterweight tournament at Shidokan Jitsu featuring four of the top five fighters in the weight class in Newton, Matt Hughes, Dave Menne and Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons.  Newton would go on to lose in the first round to Dave Menne but retained enough of his "value" that he would be called back to the UFC to fight for the UFC Welterweight Championship against Pat Miletich in May of 2001.  Pat had become the first ever UFC Lightweight champion (under 200 lbs) at Ultimate Brazil by decision.  The weight classes were changed putting Miletich as the champion of the new welterweight class.  Pat went on to defend the title four times in the UFC, also fighting tough opposition such as "Pele" and Kiyoshi Tamura outside of the Octogon before facing Newton.  Following a scramble in the third round Newton caught Miletich in a bulldog choke getting the submission win and the title.

Newton's next fight came six months later as he took on Miletich protege Matt Hughes.  For those of you unfamiliar with just how good Newton was in his prime, in the first round of this fight he swept Matt Hughes.  The list of people who you can say that about is extremely small.  But to make things even better, he did it a second time roughly one minute later.  Carlos would lose the title in a controversial end to the fight as he locked a triangle choke on deeply only to be picked up and carried to the fence by Hughes.  As Newton pulled Hughes' head down to cut off blood flow Matt "powerbombed" Carlos knocking him out cold.  Hughes appeared to be out of it for a few seconds not realizing what happened before being told that he had just knocked Carlos out.  It appeared as though Newton choked Hughes out, causing him to fall, leading to the knockout.  Regardless, Hughes became champion.

Carlos went back to PRIDE for his next fight, taking on the last man to defeat Hughes in Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons.  Jons also owned a TKO win over Pat Miletich two years earlier.  Carlos was able to shake off a beautiful knee to his chin early in the fight en route to submitting "Pele" with an armbar.

The rematch with Matt Hughes was up next and he had certainly had his moments, even taking Matt's back and working for a choke as the third round ended.  In the end Carlos fell victim to what Hughes did best.  Matt sat on top, moved to side control and worked a crucifix to render Newton unable to defend himself from a barrage of punches and elbows leading to a fourth round TKO stoppage.

From the second Hughes fight through 2007 Newton had a record of 3-7.  He was still fighting tough opposition; getting KO'ed by Anderson Silva, splitting a pair of fights with Renzo Gracie and losing to Matt Lindland by submission.  Newton returned to action in March of this year stopping Nabil Khatib with strikes in the first round at Warrior-1 MMA.  Speaking personally I hope that the win over Khatib signals one last run for Newton as he is still fairly young, but there are a lot of miles on his 32 year old body.

Another aspect of his career that makes Newton's accomplishments all the more impressive is that Carlos never trained with a top flight camp and was going to medical school for the majority of his run in MMA.  This is a guy who had a 4 year run at or near the top of the division while never giving MMA his full attention.


Adjusting for Era
-  To put Carlos at his prime into terms that a TUF-era MMA fan would understand is tough but I'd say he is somewhat of a welterweight mix between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar.  He had the ability to beat anyone on earth, was a top 5 fighter for his peak years, and had a UFC title reign where he was unable to successfully defend the title ala Griffin.  At the same time whenever you saw Carlos' name on a fight card you knew that you were going to get an action fight with a guy giving everything he has in him to try to get the win ala Bonnar.  He may not have always gotten the win, but you could never say that he wasn't giving it everything in him to try to entertain the fans.

Another comparison which keeps it in the welterweight division and comparable skillset would be Jake Shields but Carlos faced a tougher schedule of fights and had more finishing ability.  Both guys are top 5 at their peak, held a title (Carlos' was more prestigious, Jake had the longer run), had somewhat limited striking games but it was not a good idea to play the ground game with them.  A difference would be that where Newton added a wrestling game to his jiu-jitsu base, Shields actually added a jiu-jitsu game to his wrestling base.  Also, Shields had the benefit of coming along a few years after Carlos and not starting his career having to fight men that were 30-100 lbs over his natural weight.

One Final Note -  In the 1999-2002 period the top 5 welterweights in the world were (in no order) Matt Hughes, Jose Landi-Jons, Pat Miletich, Dave Menne and Carlos Newton.  Carlos faced the other four in this group in five consecutive fights in a 17 month period going 2-3.  Considering one of those losses was a fight where Hughes won by passing out, it's a pretty damn impressive run.

Star-divide

These articles are meant to provide a look at a fighter's career with an emphasis on his accomplishments during his prime years.  This allows us to translate his success into the "modern era" to provide a point of reference for fans who are newer to the sport.

Tip of the cap to Kid Nate with whom I had a lot of discussion to help make sure I wasn't leaving out any important aspects of Carlos' career.

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Smokes. Great stuff.

Spinning out solid gold, like Rumpelstiltskin.

by Heenan on Apr 6, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Hadouken!

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Apr 6, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Great article Brent. I was always a big fan of the Ronin.

Yeah, who got the final Death Blow? 'Cause I thought that Hawaiian guy had it comin' to him. - C. K.

by monkeyfightclub! on Apr 6, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome work, Brent

I love these pieces Brent, keep them coming…. would love to see one on Sakuraba.

by Gunslinger20 on Apr 6, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously sakuraba would be a good one Mark Kerr and Tank Abbott too

by drano on Apr 7, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff main!

When Newton choked out Miletich it was like Dorothy dropping the house on the wicked witch of the east. Pat had patented the stall and brawl technique and was decisioning his way to a monopoly hold on what was at first the UFC lightweight belt.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I always love that submission, too … a bulldog choke, also known in some circles as a side headlock. the look on Miletich’s face when Newton had him trapped was PRICELESS.

by bobthewriter on Apr 6, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

def an old school fighter from the building block days who was always one to watch. that Militech bulldog choke is how I one my first mma fight. the fact he did mma on a pro level and was in med school is simply amazing.

Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Apr 6, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

That kimura-defense-to-armbar transition

is a thing of a beauty…even moreso than when Hughes did it to GSP.

by Scott Haber on Apr 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

That arm bar is hands down the best transition I have ever seen. There have been some awesome submissions in the fight game but I think that is the best, well that and when gsp made hughes tap verbally, that was pretty sweet too.

by proflex on Apr 6, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice ...

Brent, I am impressed. I generally think of Carlos Newton as a journeyman/has-been (a 14-13 record would indicate that, I think). Your article here really made me re-think that. Isn’t it interesting, too, that one powerbomb may have changed the course of Newton’s career?

by bobthewriter on Apr 6, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

After his peak he fell hard...

much like what happened with Pele. But before the fall he was SO good

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you argue that it wasn’t Carlos falling so much as other fighters gaining ground on him? MMA has changed so much so quickly … if a fighter isn’t evolving, a guy who was relevant two or three years ago (Matt Hughes, I’m looking at you) seems to fade quickly. Or do you think it really was the toll his body took from fighting guys so much bigger?

by bobthewriter on Apr 6, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I do think that he was “caught up to” a little bit as he never trained with an elite camp and his game didn’t continue to evolve. But I do think that fighting bigger guys and then going through a period where he fought Menne, Miletich, Hughes, Pele, Hughes, spratt (ignore), and Anderson Silva can wear a lot of good fighters down.

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http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely a failure to evolve

At a time when all of his rivals were moving to better camps and cross-training with the best in all skill-sets, Carlos was training himself and going to medical school.
He just became a shadow of himself in every aspect. By the time he lost to Renato Verissimo in 2004 he was not himself any more — in poor condition, slower reflexes, got totally dominated in the positioning aspects of the match that were once his strength.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

so here's my question:

especially with the reflexes slowing … if he trained with a good camp (say Xtreme Couture), could he get it back? and by that, i mean, does he still have the potential to be an elite-level fighter? as Brent pointed out, the guy is only 32 … but he’s had some hard miles put on him.

by bobthewriter on Apr 6, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is a trainer at Revolution MMA in Toronto so I don’t know if there is any interest. Unless his athleticism is totally gone I think he could make a little run. I don’t know that I can honestly say I think he could be top 10 again, but I think he could make a little noise in a promotion like Strikeforce if given the chance (and if he fully dedicated himself to training full time with a big time camp…maybe even without it).

Just my opinion.

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http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

in my opinion

carlos’ problem was his lack of focus(the verissimo fight being a prime example). he has all the ability in the world. also, judging by his last fight, he still has plenty of athleticism left, he was a beast. i think he’s good for another run.

by dr. ransom on Apr 6, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you look at his early years

and remove the losses to heavyweights and light heavies (Riviere, Henderson, Sakuraba) he was 9-1 when he beat Miletich.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

and he's 4-8 since the 2nd loss to Hughes

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully everyone likes the new format

while I got a lot of positive feedback on the Enson article a lot of people requested a bit more detail so I think this will be the format for the articles going forward.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it looks great, and Newton is a perfect choice. Good on ya, BB.

by Chris Nelson on Apr 6, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another aspect of his career that makes Newton’s accomplishments all the more impressive is that Carlos never trained with a top flight camp and was going to medical school for the majority of his run in MMA. This is a guy who had a 4 year run at or near the top of the division while never giving MMA his full attention.

This is untrue. Carlos Newton never actually made it to medical school. He always said he was ‘pre-med’ or ‘working towards med school,’ but he has yet to actually be accepted into any program. To my knowledge, he still hasn’t even finished his undergraduate degree.

Aside from that, good article.

by ilostmydog on Apr 6, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

hmmm....

I’ll have to check into that. Thanks for the heads up man

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http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

good catch!

What we get for believing what Bas and Quadros said on the PRIDE dvds!

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 6, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s unfortunate that it’s almost at the bottom of the page after a few hours.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 6, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I set it to post in the morning since BE is usually kind of slow in the early hours but everyone flurried with activity today so it got pushed down awful fast.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great article, Brent.

Over the years I completely forgot how good Carlos was at one point. I guess in the long run, not too many people remember the details when it comes to a guy like Newton who never had that championship run, and a record like 14-13 looks rough beause, as the saying goes, there are no asterisks in life, only scoreboards. A closer look, however, explains otherwise. Good stuff.

by pud333 on Apr 6, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

well done

Good read, thanks Brent and nice touch on the video inclusion b/c as I was reading the part about his debut against Jean Riviere, I was thinking that I have to go find that one….

Yeah that was great when he beat Hughes at 34…oh wait…never mind, the unconscious guy was given the win and the belt.

He seemed like a good guy…I enjoyed seeing him coach in the IFL for a little while too.

by The Real T-Bone on Apr 6, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

If anyone is wondering why this got bumped back to the top of the page...

I received a few messages from people saying “I thought there was a new Adjusting for Era coming today”

It got bumped from the front page so quickly that I guess some people never saw it. So yeah…bumped.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If there’s one bad thing about BE constantly updating, it’s that posts like this don’t get all the looks they deserve.

Also: in the SBN profile interface thing, there’s an option where folks can view 20 posts on the front page instead of the default 10.

by Chris Nelson on Apr 6, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I have mine set to 20.,..everyone else should also

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I use the Archive page more than the front page.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Apr 6, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are a nerd

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 7, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

:-)

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Apr 7, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and you can use the History and Technique sections

to see these posts and the judo chops respectively.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 6, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Henderson decision was one of the first really bad screwjobs in the sport.

by George Lucas on Apr 6, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Newton really dominated...

the overtime period. I certainly think Newton won, as does Nate…as do you…as does most everyone.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 6, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it was. However, it was also great because it began the string of questionable decisions that earned Dan Henderson his nickname.

by ilostmydog on Apr 6, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Post......

Have yall ever thought of starting an mma magazine?
I know a wealthy wealthy man lives next door that has his hands on all sorts of stuff dealing with stars such as jaime foxx..etc. i would be happy to talk to him and see if he would be willing to go in to get it started if yall can get some sort of plan organized.
You know all will have a lot of subscribers just from us here at BE.

by StevenLaw on Apr 6, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Another insightful and educational story.

It was around this era that I was becoming interested in MMA and Carlos was one of those who was overshadowed by the likes of Hughes and Sakuraba so I never did pay him much attention at the time.

by Benicio on Apr 7, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent read

Thanks alot brent,brilliant piece.

by welshcardsfan on Apr 7, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

not as bad as his record

first of all,what a great article.I think that Carlos is underrated because of his record.but if he had fought at his normal weight class of 170,his record might have been alot better.he has had to many fights above his weight class that resulted in losses.but if you look at his carreer as a Wwt it is pretty good.
BTW that 2nd video of the transition from kimura to armbar has got to be one of the greatest reversals of all time.

by TheLevi on Apr 7, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I know I’m late in adding to this thread, but his match against sakuraba is one of the best grappling matches I’ve ever watched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVpp7PtWexk

Yeah, who got the final Death Blow? 'Cause I thought that Hawaiian guy had it comin' to him. - C. K.

by monkeyfightclub! on Apr 17, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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