Another view on the Great Vlog Debacle
I originally wrote this at Fightlinker.com. As this topic has been covered in detail at this web site, I thought it would be beneficial to post it here as well to get a sort of different view on the matter.
Dana White’s rant against Sherdog’s Loretta Hunt has been all the talk of the MMA community as of late. Since the video was posted, seemingly everyone within earshot has written an angry internet post bashing White for his supposed anti-gay and anti-female comments. Whether you think White went too far or whether you think someone of his stature shouldn’t be making comments like that in public is irrelevant. I am writing this simply to say that the criticism and backlash has been over the top.
Put as delicately as possible, people need to lighten up and cut the politically correct bullshit. Were White’s comments harsh? Yes, without a doubt. Were they meant to be hurtful to the gay community or to women? Absolutely not. They were meant to be insulting to Loretta Hunt and to whomever offered her the anonymous comment. Whether you or I agree with White’s sentiment does not matter; the man was expressing his anger towards a few select individuals, not towards two huge portions of the population who no doubt make up a percentage of his company’s fan base.
Please do not misunderstand me. I am not attempting to make this point because of any insensitivity. I have never and will never be personally subject to the social problems that females and members of the gay community endure on a daily basis; I am a straight white male. But at the same time I have been around long enough to see legitimate instances of discriminatory hatred as well as instances of “bad words” getting misconstrued as discriminatory hatred. This is the latter.
The fact of the matter is that White referred to Loretta Hunt as a “dumb bitch” because he felt as though she made him and his company look very bad with some “creative” reporting. Whether or not that was actually the case is irrelevant — that is simply what caused his anger. If a male member of the Sherdog staff was the object of White’s ire and White called that male writer a “dickhead” or an “asshole” there would have been no uproar. While women are a big part of this sport as fighters, fans, and journalists, the fact is that the fight world is and has always been a male dominated place. And when we men get angry, we tend to express ourselves in different ways than women do. It’s not sexist; it’s simply a fact of biology that men and women are wired differently and respond to stimulants in our environment in different ways.
For example, if a young boy falls off of his bike and scrapes his knee, the first reaction of the majority of females — but not all — would be to help him up, clean his wounds, and tell him it will all be all right. A large portion of men — but not all — might instead help him up, tell him to tough out the pain, and get back on the bike. Both reactions serve their parental purpose in different but beneficial ways. This is simply an example of how the sexes are different, despite the fact that many people would like to say we are all the same. We are not. Being “equal” does not mean that we have to be exactly the “same.”
My point is that Loretta is a successful journalist in a male dominated industry and she received the same backlash from White that a male writer would have received — nothing more, nothing less. If we are to live in a society where we are all truly treated equally, double standards like this need to be limited. Again, I am not advocating the unbridled rage White delivered; I am leaving my opinion out of it. What I am advocating is the deterioration of the political correctness currently seen in this country. It seems any time that someone makes an off-color remark they are labeled a “racist” or a “sexist” when, in many cases, it’s simply not the case. Frankly, it’s bullshit.
There also exists a contingent of critics out there who understand exactly what I am saying but still think it’s somehow “bad for the sport” when the face of the largest organization makes such comments. You are completely entitled to your opinion, but I would have to say I think you are wrong. The comparisons to the commissioners of the NFL, NBA, or MLB need to stop. This sport — and the UFC specifically — has always run differently than those other leagues and for good reason. People who are going to tune in to MMA are going to watch no matter what. No one is going to ban it because the president of the company used some offensive language on an internet video. (Hell, the President of the country just made a joke about retarded kids. It wasn’t done in bad taste and it was actually pretty funny.) Big time sponsors will simply say “offer an apology and try not to let it happen again” because its all about the money. If Don Imus was pulling in UFC ratings on his MSNBC show he would have never been cancelled.
On top of that, how often do we see news headlines about powerful politicians involved in extremely hairy situations — Rod Blagojevich and Larry Craig come to mind. These are the people running our country who are doing things behind the scenes that wouldn’t be shown on Cinemax at three in the morning. Love him or hate him, Dana White doesn’t try to hide who he is. Even if you don’t agree with his opinions, you have to respect a guy whose not afraid to tell you what he thinks.
As for the “faggot” comment, I’ll let the best stand-up comic working today, Louis C.K., make my point for me:
Louis C.K. on the word "faggot"
Again, this is simply a plea to the society we live in to lighten up and cut the politically correct bullshit. Hateful language aimed at a person or persons for the purpose of spewing hate based on sex, race, or religion is and always will be wrong (except against the Scientologists; Fuck them).
Plus, its not as though White was appearing on Dateline or ESPN or 20/20 or any legitimate media outlet. He was posting a video on goddamn YouTube.
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Nah, man. You can say ‘this reporter is a fucking idiot’ without bringing their gender into it, you can call an anonymous source a fucking coward without bringing their sexuality into it.
I’ve said they’ll lose zero business (and I think you know for a fact I’m hardly a prude when it comes to my fucking vernacular), but there’s room between ‘off with Dana’s head’ and ‘big fucking deal’ – that space is called ‘Dana fucked up but it’s not the end of the world.’
by subo on Apr 3, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can pick any swear word or derogatory remark you want, it still won’t make it okay. What’s the difference between calling her a “dumb bitch” or a “fucking idiot”? In this context, none in my book. He effed up, plain and simple.
by LiuLang on Apr 3, 2009 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone can help being an idiot, they can’t help being female or gay.
by subo on Apr 3, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I disagree with that. If your IQ’s under 80, you’re probably not very smart. So wouldn’t calling someone an idiot be offensive to people who aren’t at that IQ threshold? Shouldn’t we be mindful of their feelings as well? You can take anything like that and find some group that would be offended by it.
This is where being PC gets out of control. Words are meaningless, it’s people that give them power. Dana could have picked any two swears/derogatory words and mashed them together, but unfortunately those were the first two that popped into his head. They were at her, not anyone else.
by LiuLang on Apr 3, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could go with ‘perhaps people with an IQ of 80 or lower should avoid journalism’, but I think Dana was implying she’s an idiot because of what she thinks (and doesn’t bother to ask around about), not what she is.
But he handled it like a tool.
by subo on Apr 3, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Hunt “thinking” instead of reporting, started this whole mess. But I suppose that’s not the point. I don’t think I entirely get what point you’re trying to get, far too late to decipher it I guess and I’m not about to go back and forth with someone who has an obvious disparate view from mine, especially with a subject like this.
My whole point is, is that someone can find anything anybody says offensive, it’s just a matter of perspective. White was talking to Hunt and the source, no one else or any groups. It was a dumb thing to say and do and he really needs to keep his mouth shut in these situations until he’s had a chance to cool off. Hopefully, the lesson is learned!
by LiuLang on Apr 3, 2009 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well written article and this is exactly what I think of the whole situation as well. I try to stay away from commenting on the political MMA stuff, especially when it deals with White.
White’s comments were specifically directed towards Hunt and the source, that’s it, that’s all. Was it over the top? Sure it was. But what’s just as important is the context of the comments and who they were directed at.
As a side note, they should hire a camera guy for White that won’t stick one in his face just after he read that article while he was obviously pissed off. The retraction and the forthcoming apology was likely due to some sober second thought on White’s part.
He obviously a passionate/emotional guy and he was responding to what he probably felt was a personal attack. That same passion is why he’s been a big part in making MMA what it is today. Sometimes, you have to take the good with the bad.
Once again, great writeup.
by LiuLang on Apr 3, 2009 2:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting take on this but there is a flaw that really sticks out to me. You just can’t go around telling other people how they should take things like this, that’s just not how the world works. Saying “people should get over it” or that they are "overreacting"ignores that every individual is an individual and it is their right to take things however they want to take them. You can’t dictate to other people what does and doesn’t offend them or tell them how they should think(even if you heard a comic that once said something funny about it). Maybe it’s because I grew up in the south in the 70’s but political correctness isn’t neccessarily a bad thing and individuals owning up to their own statements instead of hiding behind saying “your just overreacting” or “your just taking it the wrong way” should be avoided. If you say something be a man and own up to it and take responsibility for the reaction it causes even if it wasn’t what you meant to say (especially if it wasn’t what you meant to say).
Did the internet community jump all over this like crazy? yep but that is what always happens. Did the media grab ahold like it was a juicy steak? yep but that is what they do too. It’s just the world we live in and that isn’t going to change, still it’s not like it’s asking much of Dana White to occasionally think about what he is saying before he says it (or at least before he puts it on the internet for the public to see). It’s a lesson people in the limelight learn all the time, being famous means your comments have a lot more reach and effect than the average persons comments. The story here is that Dana White manned up and said he was sorry that he said what he did and that it was taken in the manner that it was (well not towards Hunt but then did anyone really expect her to get an apology). Hopefully that will be the end of it.
Oh and “walk it off” is terrible advice, you don’t want to be that father that tells a seriously hurt child to get back out there and ignore the pain.
by who me on Apr 3, 2009 3:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Eh whatever personally i’m in the camp of “get the fuck over it and stop letting this PC bullshit get out of hand and create controversies that aren’t real” and I know i’m not the only one.
by Raker on Apr 3, 2009 5:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting and thanks for posting
But you’re living in the world of “HOW IT SHOULD BE” and not the world of “HOW IT IS”
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
by Kid Nate on Apr 3, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
absolutely. that’s exactly what it’s meant to be — a commentary on the sad state of the world and how we would be better off if things were a bit different.
by dropkick101 on Apr 3, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Louis C.K. is definitely one of the best comics in the game today.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 3, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite segments from any comedian, ever.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you’re living in the world of "HOW IT SHOULD BE" and not the world of "HOW IT IS"
I agree. Furthermore, just because this is MMA doesn’t mean there can’t be mutual respect. Hunt never bashed Dana or used swear words in her article. Dana White had the option of leaving that sort of language behind closed doors.
Oh, and a vlog on Youtube can very quickly become a taking point for the mainstream media.
by E_liminatorjr on Apr 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Completely Disagree
Megan Fox is not “bonerrific”.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Apr 3, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd'd.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd'd'd'd?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
by dnevil001 on Apr 3, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you! This is the most intelligent post I have read on this subject.
by Swordslasher on Apr 3, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Very well written, dear sir!
"They called him the axe-murderer because he was murdering chumps. They should have been calling him the chump-murderer..." Rampage Jackson (commentating on the fighting abilities of Wanderlei "F#ck Chuck" Silva.)
by BlueberryMuffin on Apr 4, 2009 5:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The biggest shame in this whole debacle is that the content of Loretta Hunts article seems to have been swept aside completely. What she wrote is the important issue for me but nobody seems to care about it, preferring instead to debate just how offensive the word “Faggot” is.
by GeeDub on Apr 5, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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