Prospect Watch: The Potential of Ben Askren
Saturday night was an evening of prospecting for the hardcore MMA fanbase. Before my usual meetups with friends at the local pubs and subsequent hazy late night arguments about UFC cards, I was pleasantly surprised by some of the solid MMA action happening earlier in the evening.
Most notably, UWC featuring our own Luke Thomas in a color commentary role delivered some solid action with War Machine defeating Rashad Woods and Mike Easton retaining his title. While many fans focused on the card for the more venerable matchups of the evening, I turned my gaze toward the Patriot Act 2 card to get another glimpse at a promising prospect in Ben Askren.
If you haven't heard of Ben Askren, you probably should. He's a two-time Division I NCAA wrestling champion, both at 174 pounds. He finished his collegiate career with a 153-8 record with 91 pins. He's third all-time on the list of Division I wrestlers in pins, a four-time All-American, and only the second wrestler ever to win the Dan Hodge Trophy, the outstanding college wrestler of the year, two times.
He also made the 2008 Olympic squad, but lost to Cuba's Ivan Zaldivar in round robin action. One of the major critiques in Askren's game coming out of the Olympics was his inability to stop the takedown because he was mostly an offensive wrestler. Zaldivar is known for having some of the most explosive takedowns in world wrestling circles, and Askren's inability to stop those takedowns led to his exit at the Olympic games.
Not to be deterred by defeat, Askren switched to MMA in late 2008 and now trains with American Top Team in Columbia, MO. A purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu backed by some of the best wrestling skills coming out of college, Askren has the potential to become a solid upper-echelon Welterweight in the years to come.
Saturday night's Patriot Act 2 saw Askren gaining his second test in professional MMA against an one-dimensional Mitchell Harris. In the opening exchange, Askren ate a huge overhand right, but countered with heavy knees from the clinch. He subsequently was able to gain a takedown, work into full mount, and eventually move to an arm triangle in a quick transition. A very impressive performance from Askren who not only showed some very well-rounded Muay Thai skills in the clinch, but some dominating ground control and submission ability.
Askren is surely making the right moves. He's facing equally experienced competition to gain experience and confidence in the cage, but he's also likely going to begin facing some better competition in the months to come to test himself. He has a top fight camp in American Top Team behind him, excellent jiu-jitsu and striking coaches, and he obviously has the determination to learn quickly as he's already obtained a purple belt in jiu-jitsu. Keep an eye on Ben Askren.
Check out Saturday night's fight with Mitchell Harris:
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when did he make purple?
wasnt he blue his last fight?
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by troy145 on Apr 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea, but it’s all over the place. He apparently somehow made purple pretty quickly from what I hear, so he must be a very quick study. I imagine it’ll take him quite awhile to gain a black belt though. He has the length to be dangerous off his back, I imagine, but we haven’t seen that from him yet. That’s one area I’m hoping better competition will put him so we can see these purple belt skills.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd.
I’m fascinated to see what Askren can accomplish in MMA, and very glad he’s taking his time and not rushing into the deep end.
P.S. It’s borderline criminal to write seven graphs about this man and not mention his nickname: “Funky.”
by Chris Nelson on Apr 27, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True, I was trying to fit in the whole “Josh Koscheck might be pissed to learn someone stole his haircut”
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing worse than the opponents ground game
was the commentator
from the forest itself comes the handle for the axe
by troy145 on Apr 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh, Mark Bader’s commentary is a small thing to endure considering how hard dude works traveling to all these regional shows and making sure that we get to see prospects like Askren developing.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, and you have to remember that Bader is holding the camera, trying to get a good shot, and trying to put some commentary in at the same time.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harris could have benefited greatly from some butterfly guard to keep from getting his head beat in there
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by Day Man on Apr 27, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Along with Askren, I’m really excited to see what Johny Hendricks and Jake Rosholt can do. I know Rosholt has looked less than dominating in his fights, but the potential for all three is off the charts.
by Gogo Platter on Apr 27, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about Hendricks earlier today
for whatever reason he always seemd to have a bad rep as a wrestler but I really liked him.
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by troy145 on Apr 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty excited about Askren and I can’t wait to see more from him. On a different note, I thought he was still spending most of his time at ATT in Columbia, MO, but I could easily be wrong.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll add that. From what I hear, he trains mostly in MO, but goes down to Florida at times. I’m not sure if he does or not though as that’s unconfirmed.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I chuckled when he pulled off the arm triangle since it’s what Kiko France (at the Columbia ATT) seems to nail everybody with.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The arm triangle was definitely worth the laugh. Especially considering (and I’m only 90% certain on this) that Askren’s purple belt is from Kiko. Kiko was laughing about the arm triangle later that night, too. He does love that move.
by snet tim on Apr 27, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't fought anyone yet...
He’s fought two guys with far less skill and experience than he has. Once he fights someone who can push him and challenge him…. he’s just another wrestler.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No
He’s not just another wrestler; he’s an incredible, dynamic, and aggressive wrestler. He has a great deal of proven athletic ability and technical potential. Additionally, he is learning and improving at an impressive rate. He doesn’t need to beat somebody with name for any of that to be true.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 27, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wants to a big name in MMA
I’m sorry man…. but he is going to have to beat somebody with a name.
I’ve heard these same analysis points for Jake Rosholt, Mark Munoz, Phil Davis, Johny Hendricks….. etc…
All phenomenal wrestlers with great pedigrees and a lot of POTENTIAL
Those before mentioned wrestlers are stepping up their level in competition and showing great skills, I’ll give them respect…. until Ben Askren steps up his level of competition…. he’s just another wrestler to me.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The topic of the post is “Prospect Watch: The Potential of Ben Askren”
If it were to be called “Woah Ben Askren has made it at just 2-0 of his career” then sure criticize away. You admitted yourself he has a ton of potential which is the subject in question here. No one’s saying he’s going to jump into the UFC in his next fight and start slapping bitches around.
by SamCupitt on Apr 28, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point of the piece has went over your head. It isn’t to talk him up like he’s this unbelievable guy already, but more as a “keep an eye” on him in the future. One of the things I do when watching even sleeper events is keep an eye on some of these unknowns. After all, they will be the future when guys like Chuck, Wanderlei, Anderson Silva, Georges St. Pierre, all these superstars are gone.
With that said, he’s facing competition that’s par for where he’s at. Both guys he faced were pretty much strikers. Both guys also caught him with solid punches. I’d like to see his ground game tested against a jiu-jitsu guy next.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't go over my head....
I knew the purpose of this piece was to just “give a heads up” with this guy.
I’ve known of Ben Askren, he’s one of the greatest athletes to ever come out of Missouri….. its just that I’m not impressed by his first 2 MMA fights. I know he is capable of more and the level of competition he has faced has been horrible. I want to see him fight someone with real experience so we can see how good he can really be.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m fairly impressed with his clinch for only two fights. He’s very quick transitioning on the floor as well. Other than that, yes… it’s only two fights.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not dogging your post by any means...
Its just there is always a lot of talk of these D-1 champs once they come into MMA, yet the moment there is a step up in competition or at least they go up against a quality striker (ie..Rosholt and Munoz) they get brought back down to earth real quick. Guys like Ryan Bader and CB Dollaway are showing right now the capabilities of these D-1 wrestlers when they get the experience and proper MMA training.
There is a big upside to Ben Askren and I’m definitely curious to see what he can do once he gets more experience.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think both Rosholt and Munoz got big fights too early.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Munoz, I agree with you. Rosholt, not so much. The talent of his opponents were on par with him… it was just a bigger stage that he was fighting on. (no doubt probably nerves)
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Rosholt is probably more debatable, but I still think that the Miller fight, let alone the UFC contract, came too early (not the Osterneck [sic?] fight though).
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rosholt impressed me a lot with his tenacity in the Osterneck fight. Fighting a Miller is always dangerous.
That Munoz vs Hamill fight was just flat out painful to watch, that was a huge step up for him but I respect the fact that he man’d up and took it.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting him in against someone with real experience won’t really tell you how good he can be. It will tell you how good he is. Hes a prospect hes supposed to be raw so I fail to see how rushing him up the chain is beneficial.
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by Day Man on Apr 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm... again... I don't think so
Putting him against someone with real experience will show he can adapt his game to someone who is better than he is, I’M JUST SAYING I WANT TO SEE THE KID BE CHALLENGED!!
At this point, he is no different than any other MMA fighter just starting out….. I’ve seen guys here in Colorado just starting out that have shown the same level of skills that he has shown in his first two fights. I, personally, am not seeing anything different so forgive me if I’m not terribly impressed with Ben Askren yet….. y’all say he is a prospect to watch… your standards must be lower than mine. All I saw in the video above is a great wrestler who has a decent Thai Clinch annihilate an overweight fighter that was praying for a flash KO.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
I’m now done with talking about this subject…. I’m gonna lay off Ben Askren and give him the benefit of the doubt until the police find dead nuns in the trunk of his car.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 28, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has good BJJ, he learns unbelievably fast.
by attgnp on Apr 27, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the looks of your s/n...
you’d know better than I would. I didn’t even know ATT had a gym in Columbia, MO…. wish I had known about it when I was out there for college.
by Gunslinger20 on Apr 27, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to add
to what has been said by Leland Roling and Rundownloser:
Askren started focusing on MMA the end of last year. His game has grown so fast, and he’s already had 2 mma fights resulting in wins. Also to note, he’s not focusing utilizing his wrestling background. He’s making sure to develop a solid striking game and BJJ game. Some other guys don’t work has hard to get such a well-rounded game. He’s got some great help at ATT-MO.
Granted Askren was quite a bit better than his competition, but he’s wanting to stay close to MU while he starts his career. From what I know, it seems important to him to have his friends and family there and the community who backed him through his college wrestling career. The caliber of fighters in/around central MO isn’t like that of Vegas. But he’s working on bringing high class MMA productions to the area via Headhunter Productions.
Askren’s got a ton of integrity and motivation. He’s most definitely somebody to keep an eye on. I imagine it won’t be long before his name is common to the non-hardcore fans.
by snet tim on Apr 27, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also to note, he’s not focusing utilizing his wrestling background. He’s making sure to develop a solid striking game and BJJ game.
To me thats the best sign for his long term outlook. A lot of wresters use their…well, wrestling abilities to hide their weaknesses as they advance up the MMA ladder*. These weakness are usually discovered when they step up in competition and their wrestling alone is no longer able to keep them competitive and the under developed area of their game are tested. To hear that Askren is focusing on using striking and jits in real fight situations is going to benefit him immensely when he does step up the level of competition.
*The same can be said for guys that come into MMA with very strong bases in a certain area (be it wrestling, striking or submission skills)
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by Day Man on Apr 27, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly what i was trying to get at. well stated.
by snet tim on Apr 27, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the vid.
I’ve been wanting to see his fight.
But yeah, he looked pretty impressive in this fight. And at least now we know that he doesn’t have a glass chin- that overhand right he took sounded nasty, and it pretty much landed flush (which also means that he has some work to do with his boxing), but he wasn’t rocked or anything.
The transition to that arm triangle was very smooth, and his guard passing looked pretty good as well (even though his opponent had one of the worst guards i’ve ever seen- hasn’t he ever heard of “Controlling the opponents posture”? It’s called a collar tie, or at the very least, wrist control).
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by ElliotMatheny on Apr 27, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris...
For some reason, it’s not editing the School information. Change the Coconut Creek to “an affiliate school in Columbia, MO” or something to that extent.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that ATT-MO is considered an affiliate as much as it is just an alternate location. On the main ATT page it’s listed under “”http://www.americantopteam.com/locations.php" target="new">Locations".
Also here is the ATT-MO webpage.
by snet tim on Apr 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw. great post! forgot to mention that.
by snet tim on Apr 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brutal Elbows!
but that was one of the easiest guard passes i’ve ever seen. other dude was hopeless on the ground.
by I Can't Feel My Face on Apr 27, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for Askren
But the real star of that video is the gigantic, barn-style cage door.
by smoogy on Apr 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maynard’s fight was better in terms of surroundings. A square cage and a bunch of people standing around… can you guess what nostalgic feel that gave me? You got it! Rio Heroes!
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