Quote of the Day: Rashad Evans Felt Bad for Chuck Liddell
by Michael Rome on Apr 20, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
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I felt so bad for him to see him go out like that...he is a great person and a legend and when you see that as a fighter, you get a small glimpse of your own demise in the sport.
There were no changes...I knew before that before the fight because an inside source told me that was just a front.
Rashad Evans, commenting on Chuck Liddell's last fight.
If Chuck's whole new training thing was a charade, that is pretty scandalous, but people who trained with him for this camp say he trained very hard. Are they part of this "front" too?
Either way, I agree it was sad to see Chuck go out like that. As soon as I saw how slow Chuck was, I knew it was a matter of time. In the past, watching Chuck gave you a feeling of imminent doom for his opponent. Against Shogun it felt like I was just waiting for a disaster. I don't want to see that again, and neither does Dana.
That's why Chuck is done.
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Interesting...
If what rashad is saying is true, Chuck had that shit coming. But I think it’s good that Rashad isn’t being a dick about it.
"If what rashad is saying is true, Chuck had that shit coming"
What in the world are you talking about? A fighter saying he is making changes in his fighting style makes him have it coming?
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Dude...
Before you make me out to be a dick, re-read the quote. Rashad said Chuck was lying and changed nothing. I said if what rashad said is true…Chuck had that shit coming.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Had what coming dude?
How many times does a fighter say one thing about their gameplan or whatever & then not do it? Because Chuck said he was making some changes in his fighting style & lost he had it coming? Are you serious? Was it a lie that he was training with those ATT guys & were they all lying? Doubtful. By the way, no one has to make you out to be a dick when you bash a guy for losing because you do not think he changed enough.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Don’t take what I said out of context. If Chuck really did all those changes, great, it’s a shame it didn’t work out. If he was bullshitting about all of that, then he had it coming. Thats why I said “If what Rashad said is true…” I didn’t make it a definate thing. And I don’t think I’m alone in the thought that if Chuck did the same old thing for this fight, he deserved to lose, especially after he had told Dana he would change things up so he wouldn’t get KO’ed again. If Chuck worked hard and things just didn’t work out, then I can’t condemn him for that, I’m not saying “Fuck Chuck” for no reason.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a fight, he lost.
End of story. The guy is 40 years old and as we all know, change is not easy after all of that time. Did you really expect him to come out & submit Rua or something? Athletes at the end of their career always say the same thing and ultimately they are what they always were. Nothing more, nothing less.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
I'm just going...
To refer to your signature and quit talking. :)
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That would probably be for the best
as you are clearly not understanding.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Yeah, Fuck Chuck for saying he was working on some
new fighting style & then losing. Oh yeah, now I see what you are saying!
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
“If what rashad is saying is true, Chuck had that shit coming.” At least get the quote right, instead of adding your own objectivity…and you should change your sig if your that determined to argue over something. Your one of those gotta have the last word guys huh? I wanted to end it with clearly, but you feel the need to continue? Did you not prove your “point”? All I said was that if Chuck straight up lied to the people AND Dana, then he deserved to get KO’ed. Period.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right.
I am sure Chuck and ATT & his trainers all conspired to lie to you.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
If...
Is the key word. Did you ignore the rest of my comments? Like…“If Chuck worked hard and things just didn’t work out, then I can’t condemn him for that, I’m not saying "Fuck Chuck" for no reason.” Did you ignore that because it was convenient? Really dude, chill, don’t you have better things to do? I’m done with this, we had the biggest conversation of this thread over some stupid shit.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at that...
I called it a thread…talking to you has convinced me I was at Sherdog…sheesh.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ME=WIN, lol
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
lmao! Sorry to dissappoint, I just thought the discussion got way out of hand.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It was fight hyping dude!!
Get the fuck over “if Chuck had worked hard”. He lost, period. Kind of like when Cantwell talked so much about his BJJ then basically spent the entire fight with Cane standing. You are getting way too personal saying crap like that. Chuck is a fighter whose career is done, that is why he was unable to change. Fighters do not typically get quicker reaction time as they get older no matter how training they put in.
Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.
Full quote, pretty ballsy statement from Rashad:
“There were no changes,” stated Evans, who saw little change in Liddell’s style since the two met back in September of 2008 and seemed shocked as to how quickly his skills had eroded. “I knew that before the fight because an inside source told me that it was just a front. It’s too late for him. His reactions and ability to take punishment is gone and you could never get that back…He deteriorated so fast, it’s not even funny. Just a season ago he was on his way back after his win over Wandy and now, it’s over. You have to wonder if he is on the border of a medical problem.”
Damn…
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 20, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch.
Rashad is right though, with respect to Chuck’s deterioration. He beats Wandy, then a year later, he’s a completely different fighter. Perhaps Rashad’s KO was the one that broke him, like hitting him with a car. And Shogun’s win was basically backing that same car up and running over the corpse. You know. For good measure. Jeeze.
Jeez...
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 20, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What does it say about Wandy?
Who is the only fighter he beat in the past handful of fights.
This statement may also apply to Wanderlei.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 20, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva is 32 compared to Liddell being 39 but I do think that Wand may be in his last run too(Pride really took it’s toll on a lot of fighters).
Yep. Sadly I think Wand is nearing the end of the line. He’s had a great career, but the killer in him seems to be gone and his chin has deteriorated rapidly over the past few years.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Wandy started fithing Vale Tudo since he was like 15 or 16.
Hes been basically fighting for half his life. That has to take a toll, regardless of age.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 20, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Silva had 43 professional fights (32 in Pride alone), by comparison Chuck has only had 27 professional fights in his career. Even if you don’t count Wanderlei Silva amateur fights he’s had a long tough career considering he isn’t really that old.
Michael, I think Rashad was speaking more to the alleged rejiggering of Chuck’s stand-up than whether or not he trains hard. Looked like the same old Chuck against Shogun.
Chuck has, by and large, always put in the work. The sport has just advanced too far for his one-dimensional style to be effective.
Also, I never liked Chuck and am thrilled that Shogun is back on track. Just felt like sharing.
i wonder what kind of medical issue could be causing a man who likes to party hard and has lots of money to see their career go down the drain? it is a mystery
anyhow, lol at people shocked or stunned that it might have been a lie. this sort of thing happens regularly. i seem to remember kongos newest victim getting a pretty belt from rickson gracie that everyone in the know said was crap.
The second I saw Chuck letting Shogun get up from the ground to stand it up I thought, “same ole Chuck, nothings changed”. If he in had in fact changed he woulda gone in for some GnP.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
I thought the exact same thing actually.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably...
That “Blitz” shit Hackleman was talking about back in the Wanderlei fight…a Blitz is more like, quick takedown, about 10 real solid shots on the ground, and stand back up. This was more like…ugh I don’t even know. Chuck was looking old too, he had the whole skinny arms, skinny legs, with a gut look. Don’t get me wrong, Chuck is a badass old man…but…I take comfort in knowing theres not going to be anymore Chuck getting KO’ed.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, we saw Chuck on the canvas for three of his last five fights. This last one was brutal when he asked the ref “Is it over?” Yes, Chuck. It is. Damn, I really felt for the guy at that moment.
As soon as I saw the shot of Chuck looking at the Ref, I knew we were gonna hear something that would make me cringe…it was sad.
by Kaleb Kelchner on Apr 20, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
"There were no changes...I knew before that before the fight because an inside source told me that was just a front."
I could have told you that a long time ago.
Were people expecting Chuck to have awesome boxing or take someone down and submit them? I don’t think so.
Let’s just say what Rashad saying is not true, I didn’t expect a few months of training at ATT would be enough.
I also found it interesting that Dana tried to talk Chuck into retiring and “88” and later Chuck proposed some sort of deal with Dana that he would make some changes in his training, not party too much, etc. I think that kind of reveal what Chuck training was like and what he was outside the Octagon. Dana knew behind the scenes that would be his downfall.
by The Bronzeville Bully on Apr 20, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions
Worst part of the whole fight was that if you were blind and could only listen to the Keystone Cops calling the fight you’d think Liddell was destroying him.
These guys are good at what they do, but god-dammit you’d think they had someone in the back piping the commentary into them sometimes. Over emphasis on anyone the one fighter does and completely ignore what the other one is doing, or just be too busy on the over emphasis to catch it.
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