Anderson Silva's Antics Should Push the UFC to React
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After UFC 97's terrible main event which saw an overmatched and one-dimensional Thales Leites flop to the ground countless times in order to lure Silva into his only chance to win, Dana White has come out publicly stating the matchup was "embarrassing" in an interview with Steve Cofield. The big question coming out of the interview and event is how the UFC should react, and what can be done to bolster a more exciting matchup for Anderson Silva.
First and foremost, the UFC needs to push some of the more offensive fighters into the title contention picture. One of the big knocks on Thales Leites was that he was solely a ground guy that didn't have the standup to contend with Silva. While on paper, that looks like a fight in which Silva would easily destroy Leites on the feet, opponents to Silva are much more inclined to try to hang with the champ by keeping distance and moving to the floor when in trouble. The problem here is that Silva's dominance in the striking department basically pushed Leites to flop because he couldn't penetrate Silva's range for a takedown.
So, what can the UFC do? The Middleweight division isn't exactly chalk full of exciting matchups, but here's a few suggestions. Book Georges St. Pierre vs. Anderson Silva in a superfight matchup. This will not only cause him to be serious in the cage, but St. Pierre's power is going to be one of the most formidable attributes that Silva will have to overcome. St. Pierre won't be trying to figure out how to get through his reach for the weeks preceding the fight because I have no doubt that his explosiveness in the takedown game will put Silva on his back. St. Pierre in side control is nightmarish for even Silva.
Other likely candidates are Demian Maia and Yushin Okami. While I do agree with the opinion that this fight hurts Maia's chances, he's much more of an offensive grappler than Leites. I think Maia would be a much more aggressive opponent than Leites. Okami, while boring in his style, doesn't back off. He will do exactly what the UFC wants in trying to move forward, put Silva down, and overpower him with punches on the ground. It isn't the greatest idea in the world, but it will give Silva a chance to knockout an opponent.
There are a couple more issues I have with the fight as well. A lot of rumors have swirled around the media regarding whether Silva was trying to lose, trying to be DQ'd, trying to allow Leites to win without looking like he was giving away the fight. This is a bit absurd, but in retrospect, Silva wasn't exactly helping his cause against such a case.
The issue that angers me the most, however, revolves around Silva's greasing after he entered the cage. In lieu of the Georges St. Pierre incident, Silva blatantly wipes his face as he entered the cage and rubbed himself down with the Vaseline that was just applied. It definitely didn't have an impact in the matchup, but I'm a bit disheartened that this happens constantly. Furthermore, Silva did this in plain view of the camera with his own hands.
This type of activity needs to be monitored. Have someone watching the corners and the fighters when they enter the cage and during the fight. Don't rely on crowd members or fellow fighters within the crowd to scream at the commission members about it. This should be meticulously looked at as it is becoming a bigger issue than previously thought. I suppose what makes me angry at this point is that Silva almost looked as if he was trying to get caught.
Unfortunately for the UFC's Middleweight ranks, the entire main event fiasco is going to set some guys back that shouldn't be deterred. Maia should be in line for the title along with Okami, but we all know the stance of the UFC on Okami. St. Pierre will likely get a call regarding a matchup against Silva, and at this point, it's needed in order to challenge him.
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Okami can have a boring fight, see Okami/Franklin rounds one and two, but he does have the skills to get Anderson down. The question is, will he want to take Anderson down and be aggresive in doing so, or will he act like a turtle and do nothing offencive for 5 rounds?
I don’t see Okami flopping to the ground like Leites though, and Silva would likely punch him out rather than seeing him flop to guard. I think Okami would be more of a guy who would at least try to bang with Silva than anybody with fantastic jiu-jitsu. Maia might be the exception there. Either way, I think Okami or Maia are potentially much better fights than what this latest one was.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 20, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree. Seems as though Maia’s BJJ has been better for MMA in the sense that he is more aggresive in going for stuff. He pushes the pace and uses strikes to open up subs. As for Okami, I am a huge fan so I will try to stay away from prasiing him to much, but he has a Tito Ortiz type skill set. A wrestler with good GnP and basic striking. But his way to beat Silva is a take down and using his strength to control posture. That is pretty much the only way I see him winning. He doesn’t even have the “punchers chance”. He has to stick to that game plan and execute it perfectly or good night.
wanderlei silva wins after ufc 97
Wanderlei Silva seems more and more like an option if he defeats Rich Franklin convincingly.
Not only would he have to bring the fight to Anderson (which he no doubt would), he can really sell a fight. After the comments Anderson made about beating Wandy, Wandy can bring that animosity to a prefight build up that few can. None of the other options can really sell this as a ppv and the aspect that anderson has been clowning other fighters and possibly “greasing” makes it a much more buildable fight and more ammo for Wanderlei to bring to his conferences and interviews. That they were both chute boxe and now have had a fallout makes it much more of a story.
Not to say that he poses a real threat to the title, but he does as much as any of the other candidates (besides maybe maia, who really got screwed after saturday night), but he could at least put people in seats and make for an exciting, action filled fight that would most likely end in a knockout and bring the spider back into good graces with fans and brass.
does the ufc want to feed the spider wandy? i dont know but it seems to be a better option business-wise than some of the others mentioned.
"All I guarantee is Violence" - Wand
and as my signature notes...
i’m a die hard wandy nuthugger, and that may sway my position but i still think this fight has the makings of winner
"All I guarantee is Violence" - Wand
This is definitely true, although I’m not siding with Wanderlei over Franklin, so I’m not anticipating that it’ll ever happen, to be honest. I think Franklin’s reach and height is going to present problems for Wanderlei, who still loops the shit out of his punches as the fight goes on.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 20, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
can't disagree
and his chin really has taken a beating over the years, but im also worried about franklin bouncing up and down in weight from fight to fight and the thai plum must wake him up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat
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Responding to your assertion that GSP would no doubt take Silva down easily-
it kind of seems like we have said this several times before about Silva’s opponents. Everyone spoke at nauseum about how Hendo would take him down & it would be over. True, Hendo did get him down but in the end it did not matter. Then we talked about how Leites’ top flight BJJ would overwhelm Silva on the ground. While this was not the typical dismantling of his opponent, it was far from competitive. GSP is a phenonemal athlete & I have little doubt he will probably get Silva down at some point, but then what? Silva has shown that he is more proficient to at least stall the fight on the ground & fend off subs. Silva is considerably taller than GSP & is worlds ahead of him as a striker & GSP will not be shooting in on him without fear of getting KO’d like he did w/Fitch or BJ.
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Hendo’s GnP is pretty much non existent. With Silva and Franklin, he basically took ‘em down and tried to smother them. Very little action once he got on top. GSP’s GnP is a whole different story, and he approaches fights with a very technical, scientific way with Team Jackson. I’m sure he could find a way to get around Silva’s reach. Whatever GSP’s chances, he still has the best shot against Silva.
Of course Hendo's GNP does not compare to GSP's,
but my point was that GSP would have to keep the fight down to finish Silva. Not to mention surviving coming in for those takedowns. I do think GSP offers the toughest fight for Silva currently, but it would be a huge uphill battle IMO.
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I just feel that since GSP is one of the best takedown fighters in the game, and his overwhelming top control and power in the guard has been unbelievably effective…. I think if he managed to get to side control, Silva will have a nightmare of a night. I think GSP will get him down. He times those shots pretty well, and Silva isn’t exactly the best at defending them. Leites didn’t have any pop, and he seemed to be very afraid of the striking game of Silva. He just didn’t seem interested in putting forth the effort because he was ulimately afraid of getting crushed. GSP has the potential to get hurt by Silva coming in, but his wrestling is off the chart.
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by Leland Roling on Apr 20, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree about GSP's wrestling ability.
But until someone actually shows they can take Silva down, without having their head removed, and keep him down long enough to do damage I just cannot see it. Even though Hendo’s top game is nothing like GSP’s, there were many people saying the exact same thing “that Hendo is the perfect guy to beat Silva.” This is all great in theory, but there are many things that have to go absolutely perfect for this to happen. My main theory is that Silva’s length & BJJ background is something that GSP has not encountered yet. Fitch, while taller than GSP, offered nothing on the feet & there was also nothing for GSP to fear from him on the ground.
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I would be pissed if the guy i was trying to fight kept laying down and i don’t blame silva for not laying down with him, I think silva was pissed i dont blame him its like paying to see bonds play baseball and everytime he bats the walk him. Not silva’s fault
Good analogy there.
Why on Earth would anyone expect Silva to willingly follow Leites down when he is picking him apart on the feet? This fight failed because Leites has no standup & after feeling some from Silva was absolutely scared to death to engage. This is what happens with most BJJ guys who cannot strike well. If they are unable to get the fight to the mat they are fucked.
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Dana Deserves What He Got Saturday Night
Leites shouldn’t have been given a title shot. He shouldn’t have been in there.
Zuffa has intentionally given Okami the run-around. They have effectively tried to by-pass him w/two or three other guys, make him fight Dean Lister on the undercard, sign him in ANOTHER fight w/Miller.
This is what sometimes happens when you try to "Werdum " guys because you don’t like their style.
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by MyFistYourFace on Apr 20, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
Okami broke his hand, otherwise he would have had a shot. An argument could be made that Okami is ducking Silva. And I am a huge Okami fan, but to say he is being done wrong is incorrect. He is in line, but it takes time to get your shot and breaking your hand is a set back to that.
As a side note, I don’t think Werdum was ready for a shot. He hadn’t earned one, he hadn’t been there before, he wasn’t exciting enough to get fast tracked. Then he got KOed.
Yeah, I really do not see the UFC
holding “stylistically boring” in their opinion, fighters from a shot with Silva. Because if anyone is able to defeat Silva it would be huge & would set up an automatic rematch that would be a huge draw.
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The UFC’s treatment of Okami is absolutely terrible, but I understand why they’re keeping Okami sidelined. Personally, I think Silva may be motivated to finish Okami if they met in the cage, simply due to Okami holding a win over Silva from three years ago. Silva was DQ’d, but I believe it still counted as a “win” for Okami. I’m sure Silva wouldn’t mind avenging that loss.
Anderson v GSP
Is a fight that I really would be suprised to see happen.
Beyond the match itself, the possible outcomes of that match are a whole different set of headaches for the UFC…not to mention how shallow it makes the UFC’s talent pool look so close on the heels of the Penn v GSP bout.
So you match your most marketable champ (GSP at this point) with the least marketable (Silva at this point). What if Silva wins and tarnished GSP’s prestige? Or what if GSP wins and now two belts are tied up with one champ? I’m not sure either outcome really benefits either weight class or the UFC as a whole. The Welterweight class would definitely be the looser by having its champ out wasting another possible title defense one some marketing ploy.
I’d rather see the UFC developing talent in both weightclasses and getting those guys title shots.
You must be joking.
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Anderson Silva vs. GSP at a catch weight? Not a Title fight.
I can’t see Silva dropping to 170 and remaining effective. I see the fight happening at 178-180lbs.. With regard to the vaseline, I agree it was strange but that amount of vaseline can get rubbed off onto an opponent in the clinch right?
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