I scored mine the same as Lotfi.

What a fight though. The technical prowess of both of these guys and the escapes, submission attempts, and the overall attempts at finishes were outstanding.

Hard to say which fighter is better, I just felt Kampmann did more to secure the victory.

A draw would not have been a surprise at all, I predicted Kampmann to get robbed because I had him at 29-28 but Carlos was not far away from winning any of the rounds.

In the end I feel it was a fair decision, and the judging in MMA is great and most of the time spot on, but this is one of the few fights where you start flipping through a rule book and finding which criteria supercedes another for determination of round wins.

Are submission attempts more important than defending the submission? Is working more actively off your back more important than controlling from the top? If the guy on top is not pressing the action as much as the guy on the bottom, but still maintains a dominate position is that a positive for judging?

Also in striking, is it awarded more for strikes thrown, or strikes defended? If you catch someone with a kick in the mid section, is that more valuable than a clean punch to the face?
Are leg kicks more important than takedown attempts?

It is all very subjective to the eyes of the judge and overall each round has to be weighed in terms of activity, control and successful offence. Successful defence does not seem to be weighed too heavily as of late, and I wonder if they even award anything for submission defences or sweeps that get them out of a precarious position but back to a neutral position as well.

A lot of thoughts on the matter, but I’ll stop there.

I thought it went to Kampmann although I was pulling for Condit. I wouldn’t have seen a decision for Condit as unjust. Like Richard, I generally give one fighter or another a round. I don’t necessarily scientifically way everything when I’m just watching fights for fun.

The sherdog crew had strikingly different scores for the Griffin/ dos Anjos fight also. They all scored the bought 29-28, but saw the first two rounds strangely.

A 30-29 was possible. I think the only thing definitive to me was that Kampmann won the 3rd round.

i had it 29-28 for kampann but the fight was essentially a draw to me. martin deserves to be ranked in the top 10 in the ww’s but condit deserves to stay as well. i wouldn’t mind seeinfg a rematch, but i doubt if it hapens.

The first round was CLOSE, and I have no problem with the decision. However, I gave Condit the 29-28 decision. Kampmann had a few takedowns, sub attempts, and a couple strikes. Condit had a takedown, sub attempt, better striking, and landed about 4-5 power shots. The difference in the round to me were the power shots and his aggression (one of the criteria). Condit kept moving forward and pushed the fight in that first round. While it was close I think that along with the power strikes tilt it toward Carlos.

Its clear that this sport has way too many close contests for the UFC to never have draws. Its really frustrating when fights like Franklin v Hendo or Diaz v Guida happen

So the fight metirc brings up a point debating the value of a draw. And i think fights like this bring some value that a loss can still moce a fighter forward, as opposed to boxing where boxers need to sport 29-0 or 35-1 to get some recognition. I think it is a good thing that the focus is not on fighter’s records and some wins or losses, and i hope MMA continues this way. Boxing has declined with the over emphasis on records and if a good young fighter challenges himself and loses his career may be significantly altered. Having such close fights in MMA and losses like this that do not ruin a career help the sport

If this fight was scored like K-1, I would score it 10-10 10-10 10-9 Kampmann.

For me, unless someone has points deducted or had what I consider to be a 10-8, I never think a fight’s a draw. That’s probably wrong of me though haha. The closer a round/fight gets the more flimsy my reasons for picking one fighter over the other becomes. Time on top, who I like most, best hair, whoever puts their hands in the air quickest once the last round finishes, nicest shorts, most famous, etc.

maybe i’m wrong but even though this is a BLOG site i would hope you guys would either do some spell check or proof read what the heck you write. this is just this article but he says jordan breen scored the fight 29-28 which is correct but then says he scored the last 2 rounds for kampman while the first went to condit. if you go to the link where i assume the author of this got his information ( http://sherdog.com/news/news/ufc-fight-night-live-play-by-play-16816 ) it is plain as day that breen gave rounds 1 and 3 to kampman and round 2 to condit. come on people i know i’m nitpicking but i really like to come to this site because it has information so quickly and cool videos but it annoys me to see so much INCORRECT information every time i read a post.

Condit won the fight 29-28 it was a bad decision, but the more I think back about it the angrier I am at Carlos and his strategy for the last round i’ve never seen him fight like that ever. I hope that going to ACS has ruined his killer instict because the Condit that showed up in the first 2 rounds is the guy who dominated the WEC, the guy who pulled a Josh Neer in the third round that guy I don’t recognize.

I just read his interview with MMA Weekly and maybe i’m reading way too much into it but he really seems way too relaxed about losing his comments are making me very worried about where his career is going. Ever since he went to ACS I don’t think he’s been right his next fight should be a great tell as to what is going on with him and his new camp but so far I don’t like what i’m hearing and seeing from him.

Watching that last K1 was painful as it seemed like the judges were afraid to pick a winner.

And in the case of some of the more well known fighters, they kept giving extension rounds hoping that the big name figher would do something to win.

Oh, and its pretty amazing to see these two guys fighting at this level and being in their early twenties.

Condit in particular looks so young, imagine where he will be skill wise when he hits his prime in his early/mid 30s…