Yes Condit vs. Kampman deserved FOTN honors, no there is no conspiracy to give FOTY to a stand up fight that is yet another internet myth that needs to go.

What i’m more angry about is Condit being robbed i’m be more pissed off if he wasn’t an idiot and took a play from the Josh Neer playbook against Nate Diaz. Why in the world would Carlos not stand up and pick apart Kampman like he had in round 1 and 2 and all of a sudden in a semi-close fight decide to fight the last round from your back.

 I’m big on Condit have been for years now, he showed everything I said that he was but he was an idiot tonight he gave away this fight and I pray that is the last time he decides to go with such a stupid strategy to finish a fight. Anyways props to Kampman even though his win was bs, he’s tough as nails and will be a force in the WW division just like Condit.

They should have a rematch in the near future. Who wouldn’t want another three rounds of that action? Maybe they’ll get the FOTN bonus then.

Im pissed most about losing the 50 bucks I put on Condit, because at even money he was a great pick. I would’ve personally scored the fight for Condit but I could see where the judges were coming from, considering most of them don’t know dick about sub grappling and just see a guy on top which they see as a dominating position even though he was scoring little if any damage from there. It was pretty obvious to me that Condit could’ve scrambled to his feet whenever he wanted in that 3rd round. I was screaming exactly what Joe Rogan was saying about how he needs to stand up because the judges will probably see it as Kampann controlling instead of Condit setting up submissions and sweeps. In the end though Condit has noone to blame but himself, he chose to try to be cute and pretty and go around flashing his ju-jitsu and I think he wanted to show he was the better ground fighter and in my opinion it cost him the win!

I appreciated Tyson’s toughness. He is always game and one of the toughest fighters to finish in the UFC. I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if he was seriously injured and continued to fight hard on that leg.

Tyson may need work and his performance was somewhat sloppy but let’s not pretend Kampmann/Condit was the epitome of perfect technique.

- Both fighters were somewhat gassed
- The striking became slow and sloppy (especially apparent in r2)
- Kampmann kept going for guillotine chokes which weren’t all that threatening (to a solid BJJ practicioner)
- Condit could not defend the takedown if his life depended on it and gave away the 3rd round without taking much damage at all
- Neither fighter had particularly noteworthy explosiveness, cardio, quickness, and a number of other things

I’m a big Condit fan and was disappointed by his showing in what was supposed to be his coming out party. How much time did he spend at ACS only to show up with subpar TDD? His power has been an issue for a number of fights now but he is still on the weak side.

That fight for me just emphasized how far both fighters are from the top a division dominated by wrestlers the quality of Koscheck, Fitch, and GSP.

Anthony Johnson would wipe the floor with both of them in a hurry despite the supposed disparity in skill and ranking if they were to come in at the same level as they did tonight.

Maybe tonight is the night that finally gets me to buy into the conspiracy theory that the UFC is trying to manufacture a specific type of style by setting up this very specific type of reward system.

Aside from the big knee by Condit, and the time he was back mounted (didn’t he foul that up into guard somehow?) there was no solid damage caused. The fight was essentially a stalemate damage-wise full of doomed to fail submissions and weak, tired GnP by Kampmann which elicited no response from Condit.

Griffin’s fight featured a great near submission, another sub attempt, some good takedowns, a few sweeps, some big shots and solid movement around the cage by both fighters.

I came in expecting a romp and Dos Anjos managed to turn it into a fight by injuring Tyson early. I came in expecting a great display of skill by both Condit and Kampmann, but it turns out they each only had enough to fight to a stalemate.

It’s the reason guys like Condit, Jake Shields, and Robbie Lawler get perpetually over-ranked. All three are good fighters, but don’t deserve to be ranked near the top of their divisions.

This decision was actually less of a travisty than some of the previous FOTN awards, but I do agree that the award was issued incorrectly.

Totally agree, I couldn’t believe it when I read the awards. Condit/Kampmann was the best fight I’ve seen this year. Not nearly as bad of an award than UFC 94’s FOTN- Guida vs Nate Diaz. though!

Another thing why do I keep hearing from people that Condit was dominated by Kampmann’s takedown’s when he chose to fight the third round from his back. He got up or reversed Martin repeatedly in the first 2 rounds and yet all of a sudden Kampmann turned into Bader with great top control. People need to rewatch that fight because i’m hearing alot of comments that have got me shaking my head wondering what fight people were watching.

Well put and agreed. But I haven’t lost hope yet. It seems to be slightly political right now, but as the masses get more educated and appreciate wonderful fights like this, I hope they’ll be rewarded appropriately.

Did someone here once suggest 5 rounds for title fights? This is a great example. Kampmann and Condit should have gone to 5.

He didn’t choose to fight from his back.

- He was winning the standup, why would he want to get taken down repeatedly and fight off of his back?
- And if he in fact did want to work from the bottom, why was he expending effort to get back to a standing position repeatedly?

Again rewatch the fight when Condit wanted to get up he got up he chose to keep going for subs the entire third round for whatever reason Kampmann did nothing to keep him there.