UFC 97 - Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites Live Results and Commentary
by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 9:16 PM EDT
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As with every major show we'll be here to bring you live results and commentary for UFC 97: Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites. The card will also feature Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. The live blog will start with the beginning of the PPV broadcast so make sure to make Bloody Elbow your home for this event.
As always we have our one rule: NO SPOILERS! In the interest of not ruining anything from the undercard that may make the broadcast we ask that you do not discuss the results of the undercard in the comments until either the broadcast ends or the fight makes the air.
So again, join me for the show and share your thoughts as the event unfolds.
As always, big props to Baudelaire on the image.
The broadcast has started so here we go!
Luiz Cane vs. Steve Cantwell - I'm so excited for this fight, I can't really explain it. Round 1 - Jabbing early and a one-two from Cane. High kick from Cantwell just misses. Body shot from Cane in return. Combination from Cane and he is the one stalking here. They're both landing when they throw. Two hard shots from Cane and Cantwell grabs a body lock. Cantwell separates with an elbow. High kick just misses again for Cantwell and Cane unloads with a combination. Right hook from Cane hits glove. Cantwell is dealing well with punishment so far and is starting to settle into looking for combinations of his own. Solid punches from Cane and he is winning the round easily so far. Uppercut lands for Cantwell. Big overhand right from Cantwell misses. Cantwell is trying to circle away from Cane's power but is still getting caught. Cane wins the round 10-9. Round 2 - Cantwell is pumping the left and looks like he wants to attack and lands a body shot. Big left hand from Cane lands though. Cane's mouth is opening a bit now but he doesn't look like he's slowing down. Combo from Cane has Steve backing up. Cantwell is not looking as good as I expected but he's hanging in there. Cantwell lands a left to stop Cane's combo and then unloads with a kick combo of his onw. Cantwell lands a right hand that wakes Cane up. High kick lands for Cantwell and again, and a knee. He's starting to heat up. Duck under hook, uppercut combo from Cantwell. Right hook from Cantwell. Cantwell actually stole the round through the last two minutes on my card but I could still see it for Cane. 10-9 Cantwell to even the card. Round 3 - Left hand from Cane. Low kick from Cantwell. Nice combo from Cane and now he unloads but most of the punches were blocked. Cantwell with a body kick. Very good stand-up fight here. Combo finishes with the headkick by Cantwell. Now Cantwell is the stalker and Cane is much less busy. Knee, and two left hands from Cane. Half a round to go and Cane is probably winning the round. Cantwell lands some shots and Cane looked to shoot for a second. Two jabs and an uppercut from Cane now. Head kick is blocked by Cane, twice now. Cane with some big shots now as we approach a minute left. Cane looks tired but he doesn't stop working. Thirty seconds to go until Cane wins a decision. 10-9 Cane to make it 29-28 Cane on the BloodyElbow scorecard. Official Scorecards: 29-28, 30-27, 30-27. Luiz Cane wins by unanimous decision.
Antoni Hardonk vs. Cheick Kongo - Round 1 - High kick from Hardonk misses but a leg kick lands. Right hand from Kongo lands solid. Low kick again from Hardonk so Kongo throws one of his own. Kongo is working for a takedown but they are separated. Kongo catches a kick and puts Hardonk down but seems to have no interest in going to the ground, instead throwing kicks to the leg. Combo from Kongo and he grabs a body lock. Takedown attempt from Kongo is stuffed but he finally finishes it. Hardonk is bent up against the fence and Kongo lands a few elbows. The round ends with Kongo landing elbows. 10-9 Kongo. Round 2 - Hardonk misses a kick and ends up on the ground with Kongo on top of him. Kongo lands some punishment. Hammerfists from the top. Big right hand from Kongo. Big shots and Hardonk turtles up and is eating big shots. The fight is stopped and Hardonk is pretty hurt. Cheick Kongo wins by TKO (punches), round 2.
Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski - Round 1 - They clinch up and trade shots. Body kick from Stann. More clinch work and a right hand from Stann as they separate. Nice takedown from Soszynski against the cage. Full mount now from Soszynski. Stann bucks and almost tries for a leg but Soszynski is in side control. Stann gets back up and Soszynski with another takedown. Kimura attempt from Soszynski but he lets it go to improve position. He grabs it again and this time Stann has no choice but to tap. Krzysztof Soszynski wins by submission (kimura), round 1.
Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua - Round 1 - Leg kick from Rua. High kick misses for Rua. Right hands land from both guys. Right hand from Rua lands as a counter. Liddell lands a counter but a solid leg kick from Rua. Right hand from Rua and Chuck looks s-l-o-w to me. Takedown by Rua, Chuck stands and Shogun goes for a leglock but Chuck gets out. Chuck throws off a takedown attempt, lands a few punches but doesn't do much damage. Takedown by Chuck now but he lets Rua stand back up right away. Big punch drops Liddell! hammerfists and Yamasaki stops the fight! It's over! Chuck stands up and says "what happens? is it over?" and looks out of it. Mauricio Rua wins by TKO (punches), round 1.
Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman - Round 1 - They're throwing hands andthat isn't Wiman's best route to victory. Right hand from Wiman lands solid. Takedown from Wiman now which makes sense. Wiman walks him to the cage. Stout tries to stand and is able to and push Wiman against the fence. Stout with a couple punches. Right hand from Stout. Superman punch lands by Wiman. Right hand by Wiman again. Takedown attempt is avoided and Wiman tries for a guillotine and now ends up on bottom. They stand up and Wiman lands again with the right. Right by Stout now. 10-9 round for Wiman on my card. Round 2 - Left hook from Wiman. Wiman gets stung but manages to scramble and take Stout's back . Stout shakes him and ends up on top. Hard to call this fight honestly. Wiman is still pushing forward as they're standing. High kick misses for Stout. Uppercut drops Wiman and he tries to ride it out. Wiman throws his arms up and almost locks in an armbar. Left kick to the body hurts Wiman. Wiman keeps looking at the clock. Wiman pushes for a takedown but can't finish. Right hand by Stout. 10-9 Stout to even it up. Round 3 - Shot from Wiman and Stout is fighting it off well. Wiman scrambles and gets Stout's back. Body triangle by Wiman now and he is landing punches and working for the choke. Stout turns finally and is on top in Wiman's guard. Lands some big elbows now but they go back to standing. Takedown from Wiman and that is big on the cards. If Wiman can do some work he can win this round. Wiman is working from the top and opens a cut over Stout's eye. Stout is trying to stand but Wiman is holding on and as they stand Wiman lands some shots. 10-9 Wiman to take the fight on my card 29-28. Official Scorecards: 29-28 across the board for Sam Stout. Sam Stout wins by unanimous decision.
Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites for the UFC Middleweight Championship - Round 1 - No action for the first minute as Leites tries to stay outside. Over a minute with no action. This is a really bad first two minutes. No action at all. Leites avoids a Silva uppercut. The crowd finally starts to boo as we're through a round with no meaningful action. Low kick from Thales and he tries to follow with a takedown but Anderson avoids. High kick from Leites is blocked. Body punch by Silva. More boos as the action slows again. Silva with two punches as he comes forward. Trip by Silva but he's not going to the ground with Leites. Thales pulls guuad But Anderson doesn't play around. They go around the ring and Anderson tries for a foot stomp which is, of course, illegal. 10-9 round for Silva...I guess. Round 2 - More of the same to start out and Anderson is making himself less marketable by the second doing this after the Cote fight. Takedown by Leites and this could be trouble. Leites is in Anderson's half guard. Leites tries to pass but Anderson has the leg on lockdown. Now Anderson gets full guard with a body triangle. Thales throws a few punches but doesn't really land. Upkick from Anderson as Leites stands over him. Anderson works for a triangle but no luck. Silva is able to stand up finally and makes Leites follow him to the feet. I'm sorry but Anderson has to try to initiate on the feet...Leites isn't going to come to him. A punch from Silva...so that's something. Rogan and Goldie try to make it sound like fans want "fast food fighting" but honestly a bad fight is a bad fight, and when they stand this fight, it's been boring and bad. 10-9 round for Leites based on the takedown to even the fight 19-19 on my card. Round 3 - A little standup work and Leites tries to get it to the ground unsuccessfully. Leites is poked in the eye. Goldberg has called Leites "Maia" a few times this fight. Anderson is looking like he wants to attack because Leites looks hurt (from the eye poke). Guard pull attempt from Leites and it doesn't work, so the crowd boos. Leg kick by Anderson. GSP chants as the fans are annoyed with the fight. Leites flops to his back and Anderson avoids going to the ground and looks annoyed. Body kick by Anderson. Right hand answer by Leites. Leites flops to his back again...they should consider taking a point if this keeps up. Jump kick by Anderson. Uppercut lands for anderson and Thales looks like he is folding. Anderson is just starting to pick him apart with combinations. leites again tries for a guard pull/trip but it doesn't work. Anderson could have done this at any point. Leites is just crumbling because he can't get the takedown. Awful...awful fight. 10-9 Silva and he's up 29-28 on my card. Round 4 - Leg kicks by Anderson to open things up. Anderson is trying to be flashy now and lands a few punches. Right hand lands to the eye for Silva. A whole lot of not really engaging again. There is no reason for Anderson to have not ended this by now. Takedown attempt from leites is stuffed. Anderson looks like he wants to win on leg kicks but his trying to be cute is just annoying and kind of lame. The round ends and it's Silva's 10-9 to make it 39-37. Mercifully only one round left. Round 5 - Leites is trying to make something happen now. Leg lick attempt by Thales doesn't work. Takedown attempt again and it doesn't work and now Anderson stays on top landing some punches but has to stand back up. Spinning side kick by Anderson. Leites flops again and this time Anderson decides to throw some some punches. Goldberg and Rogan claim that Silva deserves no criticism and this is some awful announcing as there is NO reason Leites was able to hang around 5 rounds. none at all. The crowd boos bullshit. Montreal is a GREAT fight city and they hate this fight as much as I do. The round and fight ends and Silva gets booed for holding his hands up and jumping the cage. 10-9 for Silva and it's 49-46 on my card. Official Scorecards: 49-46, 48-47, 50-46 all for Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva wins by unanimous decision and retains his title. The crowd boos.
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Once again, Silva, Liddell, Sozynzski, Cantwell, Kongo, Pokam, Quarry, Loiseau, Wiman, Bocek, Marshall, Chonan
I’ve got Silva, Liddell, Stann (against my better judgement), Cane, Kongo, Kang, MacDonald, Herman, Wiman, Bocek, Marshall, and Chonan.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 18, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Buzzzzzed.
Can’t wait! I haven’t been this jazzed for a UFC PPV in a minute. Here’s hoping we get a bunch of prelims.
That's where I'm at...
as long as it isn’t a really quick KO I’m pretty sure it’ll win it. I’m kind of hoping for an MMA version of Hagler/Hearns.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Since I can't mention it without linking it...
Hagler/Hearns round 1. Two tough bastards who throw with power beating the hell out of each other. That’s what I want from Cantwell/Cane…which I admit may be asking for a lot.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweet, that’s an unbelievable 1st round.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 18, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Add a digg button and I’ll dig it.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
it's up there...
little man…has a shovel…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what that means? Shit, I thought it was some other facebook/myspace/wtf-whatever thing that I’m completely dumbfounded by…Goddamn, I’m probably the least in touch 23 yr. old in the world. There are amish kids with a better handle on web 2.0.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 18, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Web 2.0 Rule #1: DO NOT go to 4chan, especially /b/. The horror…the horror…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a first time digger. It’s been dugg.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
Absurd Meridian
by Eugene Schelfaut on Apr 18, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we’re movin on up,
To the east side.
To a deluxe apartment in the sky.
Movin on up,
To the east side.
We finally got a piece of the pie.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 18, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hell yeah. Can’t beat Sherman Hemsley.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
buzzed!
..hopefully we beat out susan boyle.. hahahahha.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
UPDATE
We’re at #5 with 15 votes, and we’ll be at #4 once Yahoo refreshes.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought for sure
that more people would have been excited to see Kongo and Hardonk, but I guess thats just me
It isn't that I'm not excited...
its that I don’t think it will win FOTN
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
and chuck vs shogun will most probably win FOTN..
not silva vs leites cause i think thats gonna be KO of the night..
not silva vs leites cause i think thats gonna be KO of the night..
Silva versus Leites won’t be Knockout of the Night. That goes to Hardonk after he demolishes Kongo. Leites will win Submission of the Night after submitting Silva with an arm-triangle.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
pretty bold prediction there. :)
i wouldn’t be surprised if silva beats leites up standing then subs leites after getting him woozy..
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's remember that there's a lot at stake tonight.
I’m not talking about the measly UFC middleweight championship or “redemption” for Chuck or Shogun. That’s all a great sideshow. Predictions are what I’m talking about:
Correct %
Cannon: 68.8
Nate: 63.9
Mike F: 62.7
Brent: 59.0
Mike R: 58.3
Luke: 57.1
Nick: 54.2
Nelson: 47.3
Can I remain at the top? Will a challenger emerge from behind? Can Nelson earn his first name back by pushing over .500? All unimportant but fun questions.
the bloodyelbow predictions contest!
the loser, loses his last name! :D
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah yeah
Except those predictions include for approximately 3 events and I cleaned up on the last one.
Admittedly, though, there are a lot of my picks on this card I just do not feel good about. I don’t expect to do particularly well tonight. Not terrible either, but not great.
I'm just clowning.
I know a lot of my recent success is luck although I’d like to think there’s a little skill at work. I find it a little interesting to see how everyone’s doing; thanks to Beer Monster for the raw totals and then Brent for running the percentages. This week has some fairly difficult calls. The matchmaking for the Strikeforce event produced some relatively easy predictions for the most part.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad to be of service. Those totals don’t include Strikeforce, by the way. UFC only.
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
That's cool.
I’m pretty sure I picked all the Strikeforce matches correctly. War Diaz.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and brent can i email you? i’ve got some stuff that might/could/maybe make this post look better..
i know that you don’t like posting your email over the webs cause of all the haters and stuff so maybe you could just email me, so i’d know your add then ill send a reply.. :)
If I didn't want my e-mail published...
you probably wouldn’t be able to see it on the right hand side of the main page under Team Bloody Elbow.
Send away. I will be leaving here in a few minutes though
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
oops didn't see that haha.
i sent it already. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
just tell me what you think..
its 2am here now, so im off to bed.. ill be back come fight time..(hopefully i dont sleep through it.. haha)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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by smoogy on Apr 18, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Smoogy, like, I don’t get it. Why do you feel the need to be unpleasant? And so Baudelaire’s piece might be easy to mimic. Who cares? Everyone’s having a good time. No need to be Debbie Downer. Chill out.
by Luke Thomas on Apr 18, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would say “fuck you” but I legitimately deserve this so I’ll just say “fuck me” instead. Not bad, smoog.
by Luke Thomas on Apr 18, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
A good time was had by all
I give you my blessing to delete all this buffoonery before UFC goes live
You managed to piss off the mods and get away with it – bravo.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for owning up and not getting angry
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
: )
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
Absurd Meridian
by Eugene Schelfaut on Apr 18, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My Picks
Leites
Shogun
Cain
Kongo
Stann
Macdonald
Kang
Herman
Chonan
Bocek
Wiman
Marshall
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Predictions I made I don't feel good about
Silva over Leites. I’m getting a weird feeling about Leites attitude heading into the fight to say nothing of his BJJ and tolerance for punishment.
Cane over Cantwell. Irvin tagged the shit out of Cane and rocked him before whatever happened to his knee happened. A guy as accurate and angular in his stand-up as Cantwell is gives me serious hesitations about picking Cane.
And I suppose Shogun has a chance, but I don’t exactly feel uneasy about my pick of Liddell.
If Chonan can hang in there for a few rounds and get the sub, Leites can, right?
I’m probably Cane’s biggest fan, The guy is pretty much the more technical Thiago Silva IMO
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Silva coming in light gave me pause, but Leites can’t hang. He might reset quickly, but the guy got dropped by RYAN JENSEN. This is going to be classic Anderson. As for Cane, he always starts slow because it takes him forever to get his timing down. Once he does though, he should own Cantwell and get a late TKO.
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Off Topic:
Derrick Rose is the freaking man.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Get outta here. Salmons is the guy doing the big time job, which is keeping Paul Pierce frustrated. I haven’t seen such a dominant defensive performance like that by one man in the playoffs for a very long time. He’s literally all over Pierce and is just dominating him all over the place.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
You're sneezing at 32-8-4?
Pierce has long been the type of guy that gets frustrated by quality defenders.
I poop rainbows.
After having Salmons on Pierce the entire time, giving Pierce problems all game long, VDN thinks it prudent to put Hinrich on him and take Salmons out. Now that’s horrible coaching, folks.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Good to see Joakim Noah still sucks
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Right? What a moron. And Paul Pierce can join him in the Hall of Shame later.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Still alive!
Of all the shots for Thomas to miss.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The poll should say…who “SHOULD” win the FOTN award……a few times in the past what we here see and who the award goes to does not quite match……
But the poll is asking which fight people think WILL win, not which fight should.
I voted Banha-Cantwell because I think they’ll try to knock each others blocks off, and that’s what gets FotN.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
RUMOR
There is a rumor on the UG that Chuck has pulled out of his fight:
I was just at Montreals Centre Bell and overheard Chuck talking about having pulled out from the fight due to breaking his big toe and the 2 toes beside it on his right foot. Apparently he broke them when he caught his toes in a sort of crack/lip entering the ring to check it out today. There was some space between the top stair entering the ring and the lip of the apron. I assist with setting up the sound at the arena and was in the back when it happened.
Normally I wouldn’t give this a second look, but:
wiley — Member Since: 1/1/01and
VectorWega — It does look credible that Wiley works sound and is from Canada (look at previous threads).
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like Shogun just got a call from the Governor.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 18, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea...
But this hasn’t been reported or confirmed anywhere reputable, and doors are now open at the Bell Centre, so I’m guessing it’s a false alarm.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news, Nick Diaz pissed clean.
“Diaz was fine,” wrote [CSAC’s Assistant Executive Officer Bill] Douglas via email. “The test went through a full battery which checks for cleansing agents.”
From MMA Weekly.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
update
Any update on the chuck “toegate” thing?
I hate when things are labeled X-gate, but I really enjoy when they’re being used in such absurd circumstances at this.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
These days...
..they’re almost exclusively used in absurd circumstances. Everything is fuckin something-gate.
I poop rainbows.
Anderson Silva over Thales Leites via RD1 KO
Chuck Liddell over Mauricio "Shogun" Rua via RD3 TKO
Cheick Kongo over Antoni Hardonk via RD2 TKO
Luiz Cane over Steve Cantwell via UD
Krzysztof Soszynski over Brian Stann via RD2 Sub (armbar)
Eliot Marshall over Vinicius Magalhaes via UD
Denis Kang over Xavier Foupa-Pokam via RD2 Sub (RNC)
Jason MacDonald over Nate Quarry via UD
David Loiseau vs Ed Herman via UD
Mark Bocek over David Bielkheden via RD2 Sub (RNC)
Ryo Chonan over TJ Grant via UD
Matt Wiman over Sam Stout via UD
I poop rainbows.
With the recent Chuck rumors, I’d like to change my pick to “Shogun by footstomps.” For all the other strengths that play into Chuck’s hands, the foot stomping Shogun picked up in Pride will be death for Chuck’s feet.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
Wasn’t the only major rule change after the Quebec rules fiasco that footstomps weren’t allowed? I SMELL A CONSPIRACY!
http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com
Must have been deleted by whomever you were hotlinking it from.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what this was but it’s not showing up. FYI, we can’t edit posts, only delete or hide them.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Was it this one?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as we're off topic
Hahahahaha yankees suck.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I like how Girardi made his MR throw 60 pitches
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Although....
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE199905070.shtml
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Just this Wednesday....
I told a friend to sit tight with Wang because he’s recovering from surgery and should come around. Waiting for an unpleasant text message..
I poop rainbows.
The problem is that his sinker won't sink
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He's going to be placed on the DL
and probably given some stints in the minors. He’s been awful…..
AWmusic - mp3 blog on independent music..
What's everyone drinking/eating tonight?
I’ll be drinking some Evan Williams but not sure about food until friends get here.
Coca-Cola, Chicken Pot Pie, and Tylenol PM(This was a mistake)
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
shogun x lidell
so, nome of you think shogun can grab chuck’s neck and anderson silva him? maybe in the 2 or 3 round when they will be a little tired.
Well...
If someone is going to be tired, it’s likely to be Shogun, based on the Coleman fight.
I poop rainbows.
off topic: i have a feeling its gonna be cavs vs magic in the east finals..
im a big cavs fan but they don’t match up pretty well with the magic..
A feeling?
That’s odds on with KG out, my man. And the Cavs will eat Dwight Howard’s lunch if they meet up. He’s like KG 2.0; he’ll suffer some growing pains before making it to the finals.
I poop rainbows.
well dwight is shaq2.0.. but instead of just being big and quick, he's too fucking athletic..
that he looks like a supersized lebron james.. (athleticism wise, not skill wise ofcourse).. I really hope the cavs win though..
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He's KG 2.0 for his career progression
Straight out of high school with a whole franchise on his back.. But he’s Dwight Howard 1.0 for how he plays.
I poop rainbows.
Jameer, Rashad, and Hedo are better than anything KG had
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You can't be serious
Sprewell and Cassell? If Cassell didn’t fuck up his knee, they would have won the title that year.
I poop rainbows.
sam cassel, spreewell?
so you guys want orlando to win? ..blackout, aren’t you a Minnesota fan therefore a KG fan therefore a boston fan? haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not that guy
I still love KG and he’s right up there with Barkley as my favorite players of all time, but I’m not going to root for his new team. When he won last year, I felt really great for him, but that’s the extent of it. This KG-less Celtics team is easy to hate because I don’t like Allen or Pierce.
I poop rainbows.
so who do you WANT to win the final?
..i hope LA doesn’t make it to the finals… that is a team that’s easy to hate. hahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching the Lakers rise as contenders while my Suns plummet has been brutal to watch the last two years. Ugh. But I digress.
I don’t blame Shaq – I blame pissing off Amare and Steve Nash being 100.
by Derek Suboticki on Apr 18, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and while waiting for 97...
watch this very newww dana white and cardave michael interview on fedor.. ;)
andddd… voteeee!!
Rays are losing. Dammit
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Rays were 8-11 in April
This all means very little
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yo
I got snowed in a couple days ago – y’all didn’t hire anyone, did you?
by Derek Suboticki on Apr 18, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
hahahaha.. well if there were betting odds he’ll be at -300. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruins Can Suck My Nuts!
um…..
Nightrider?
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
I hope you
are enjoying Raycroft.
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Fuck me with a Zamboni
You know right where to kick a downed man.
by Derek Suboticki on Apr 18, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's okay though
you guys got a high draft pick.
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Hackleman says Chuck injury rumor is false:
trainer John Hackleman told Sherdog.com’s Loretta Hunt that the story is false, but Liddell does have a blister on his hand.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/wanderlei-on-anderson-war-is-declared-17073
Not a Spoiler But...
They ran out of time for Wiman vs. Stout. I guess it’ll happen after the PPV is over.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 18, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
But aren’t those usually with fights on the main card?
Like Ken-Flo/Alvin Robinson at UFC 73.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Update
(The Matt Wiman vs. Sam Stout preliminary bout did not take place on the preliminary fight card as planned due to lack of time. They will try to work it into the pay-per-view portion at some point, but could also end up with the fight taking place after the main event.)
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 18, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
FINGERPAINT NO ESCAPE CAN YOU STEP TO THIS?
FINGERPAINT
FINGERPAINT
FINGERPAINT ME INTO PIECES
by smoogy on Apr 18, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I wonder if they're going to roll out a new intro at UFC 100
Always thought they should call that one ‘Centurion’…double word play
I'm here!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
what do you think about my email? you gonna use it?
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't get it until just now man. I'll see but the computer I'm on is SLOW..
so maybe not.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha...
sorry…I did not have my shit together today.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha. it's cool don't worry about it. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry...
Scott (badlethook) and I had to get in a few more games of UFC Undisputed
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
It...is...so...good
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I played the demo for a couple of hours and it is really, really fun. More depth than I expected.
by Adam Morgan on Apr 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
Endless fun as a demo with just the 2 available fighters. With the full lineup it will eat up so much of my time it isn’t even funny
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all just a ploy to sell more PPVs
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 18, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
CANTWELL/CANE!!! WHOOOO!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Probably a coin flip
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh...
i like cantwell too much for him to come out to this song
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone know if Kingdom MMA is being streamed anywhere? I know the undercard is on BJPenn.com at 1:30 AM ET but I’d be interested in seeing Mayhem vs. Kala.
T. Jay said probably not on the UG
That’s the promoter…that was earlier though…not sure if it changed
How weird...
to stream only the undercard…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I’m one of the crybabies hoping a little karmic retribution comes his way.
by a tommy point on Apr 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
MMA forums are awesome....
Cantwell!!!
Unleash the pride, spirit, and honor of the WEC in your fists!!!!
Believe in yourself and a mythical dragon will appear that will eat Luis Cane in half like Liu Kang’s fatality!!!
Me too.
Though it’s about 20 seconds behind the pirates.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoo! 19-19...
such a good stand-up fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
My official stream just died.
I am pissed.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
LEITES BY FLYING OMAPLATA
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
And then I remember this is what I'm missing.
And it hurts less.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Don't forget athletic
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
29-28 Cane, 29-28 Cantwell, 30-27 Lesnar
by Dabashire on Apr 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YAYYY MY STREAM IS BACK
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Boxing -> Body knee combos are sooooo slick
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Boxing -> Body knee combos are sooooo slick
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Cane is above average\
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Cane is above average
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Much respect for Cantwell, but I’ve got it 29-28 Cane, also.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Good fight...
I was pulling for Cantwell but he didn’t win…both guys looked well at times.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Cane vs Thiago Silva after he loses to forrest would be interesting
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Lotta love in the Octagon.
Also, yeah, my Yahoo stream is 20 seconds or so behind everyone else. WTF Yahoo.
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I learned last time to not watch the comments while the rounds are in progress.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not a huge deal to me. There’s not enough high volume posting mid-round. Just get spoiled for the judge’s decisions. Oh well.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
I thing when Hamill nailed Munoz with the kick, I saw the response in the comments before the actual kick.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Winner is right
But wtf 2nd round was such an obvious win for Cantwell. MMA judging f you.
That man can accessorize like a motherfucker.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way that Mike Goldberg has ever watched enough Sexyama fights to make the claim that he’s fun to watch.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
Is Belcher than new asian welcome wagon?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Do you think Canadian Celic is better than American Cecil?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Sadly, Cecil is an upgrade over Canadian judges.
by a tommy point on Apr 18, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this really necessary?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I'm trying to conserve on bandwidth here :P
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Saying Serra is a former champion just SOUNDS weird.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I believe he trains at his school in Calif.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Kongo can win it a lot of ways...
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Even that is stretching it
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Does Kongo’s weird chest bump first in the air remind anyone else of some crazy African nationalist shit?
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
I liked the Evansen fight...
because Dan was doing his viking hammer fist thing and Kongo was doing his chest bump, fist in the air.
I also liked the part where Kongo crushed him
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I just realized I haven't seen anyone win by keylock in a while
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
They are not inadvertent at this point
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Tough to call...Hardonk was dominant longer, but Kongo got the take down
10-9 Kongo on Peoples’ card, I’m sure
Kongo won the round..
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
wow lesnar would beat the crap out of both of these guys I hope none of these guys are fighting for contention
Mir would snap Kongo's arm
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Kongo - Forever Mid-Tier
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Kongo can inflict some damage while inside guard.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Kongo iis fun...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
If Kongo dropped to 232, what are the odds he could make 205? He would be a beast even if he lost some muscle mass.
Whoo!
here comes a shitty, shitty fight. Get ready for some sloppy kickboxing
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
The fight may be fun to watch...
but it’s going to be ugly
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
LHW Radach/Smith I hope.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I like how they’re not wasting time with a lot of the post fight interviews anymore. I’m sure Rogan will do them for the big two on the card but there’s no need to do them for these undercard fights and I’m glad they seem to have done away with them.
What if someone uses the rare vicious stalking technique tonight? Goldie loves the stalking and Rogan drools over all this “vicious”.
Copy/Paste
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t even know who to root for. I don’t like the added attention Stann gets for being a marine, and Soszynski bothers me for some reason.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
because he isn't very good...
and was mid-tier in the IFL…but he was on TUF so we have to pretend to forget that fact.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey awesome my legit stream cuts out again, thanks ufc!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Sounds like you need to think about finding and illegit stream.
by Adam Morgan on Apr 18, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking now in my usual places
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
If you paid for it already...
then you’re doing nothing illegal in my book
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the channelsurfing one's? :<
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Fuck this, I'll just grab it off a torrent later. FUCK.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
As if Goldie would ever let me forget.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair
He said “If he was a skilled leglock guy”
by Scott Haber on Apr 18, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
Still hoping we get to see Wiman/Stout
by Scott Haber on Apr 18, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, these fights have been taking almost 30 mins each. The broadcast ends at 12 eastern, right?
by a tommy point on Apr 18, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m wrong, obv. I guess I forgot about Wiman/Stout needing to be fought at some point too.
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It ends at 1:00am est
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ROOOAR!
EXTREME!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
wow!
really K-Sos?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Because Guida has been so damn boring recently.
by Adam Morgan on Apr 18, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t it make more sense to want a good fight rather than a quick, one-sided murder?
or are you harboring other reasons?
I'm just in the mood to see Guida get his face beat in.
by Adam Morgan on Apr 18, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll get it next time
“Half guard, from my back…I’ll kimura you standing…hell I’ll do it when you have me mounted. I’ll kimura you and your whole corner team at the same time.”
At least they found
The one and only highlight from the Guida/Diaz fight to use in the TUF Finale promo.
Liddell/Rua already!
They are not wasting anytime tonight.
me 2
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by lovingmma25 on Apr 18, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
you may be right
but Chuck has yet to lose to a Brazilian
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
by lovingmma25 on Apr 18, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun's sticking with tight shorts I see
Board shorts = gas and get choked out
Tight shorts = gas and barely finish an elderly man
Maybe he should have done one leg tight and one leg baggy?
he does
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by lovingmma25 on Apr 18, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw a gif where Chuck kneebarred Shogun.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
=)
Where can I start all the I TOLD YOU SO POSTS!
I like how all the experts picked Chuck to win too….LOL!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
YES!!!!
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Dana took him out back and put him down with the sho(t)gun.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Toldyall!
Careers like Chuck’s don’t yo-yo…they go off a cliff.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
Good fight
but might not test Shogun enough. I think Shogun could expose Jardine’s chin.
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Exactly half way through the broadcast...
and every fight but the main event is done.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Matt Wiman's mom approves.
Now she (hopefully) gets to see her boy on tv.
by Scott Haber on Apr 18, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll be seeing Stout/Wiman?
Makes sense to get that fight now.
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Oh god
That might end up worse than Bill Superfoot Wallac
by Scott Haber on Apr 18, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Depressing.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Not really. Pretty exciting people finally get to see a healthy Shogun since PRIDE.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude. The end of Liddell’s career is depressing. You can’t argue that.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell fight again, I am sure. Hes not just going to get dropped by the UFC.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He may retire.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I know they are saying that, but I doubt it. I guess we will see. He can always fight Coleman or a popular TUFer.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine. The meaningful part of his career is over.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he is 40. Same thing applies to Wandy, Nog, Couture, Hughes, and many of our idols growing up. It just means were getting old too! =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
But they have been fighting since they were 16 =)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What about that isn’t depressing?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not worth what? I agree, but with the old elite fighters fading, the new ones emerge. I think that’s exciting, so it offsets the depressing part. Call me optimistic.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s just that the depressing part is that Chuck may have to move on. It’s great that Shogun looks much better than he has recently, but it doesn’t make Chuck being at the end of his career any less depressing.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe sounds like he is trying to retire Chuck
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
Suck it rest of the BE staff!
Revenge of Brent!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Yeah...
but…um…I’m talking about THIS fight
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha Ha.
You’re the man. All hail Brent.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Either Yahoo sucks or my girlfriend’s laptop sucks because the damn thing keeps freezing.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
The alternatives are dead. All of them.
Ask emma
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Last time i was this happy was when i found out my gf wasn’t pregnant lol
FYP
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiman get tired of being "handsome?"
That beard was wack…and I’m an expert
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 18, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Wiman seriously looks like a hobo.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Dear Sam Stout,
I would like to finish 3-2 on my bets tonight. Gimme that chance.
Thanks,
M.F.
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is that seriously Wiman? He looks awful
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Matt “Homeless” Wiman
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wiman's corner
needs to give him his water in a flask
by Scott Haber on Apr 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, it’s live, it was supposed to be a prelim but they ran out of time.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, didn’t know that. I just thought the main event was left.
Awesome.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Except this fight and the main event.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
:)
War Shogun!
Just his win alone was woth the price of the PPV!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
yep
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
by lovingmma25 on Apr 18, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, I wonder where all those Shogun was on roids in Japan and he sucks in the UFC people went?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
On designer roids for this fight, obv.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Duh.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he learned what all the people here in the states are taking.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
For such a world-class, Tompkins-trained kickboxer
Stout always seems to get owned by sloppy brawlers
Just got here!
I’ve been out at a wedding! Can’t believe I missed the action!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
I missed SHOGUN!!!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless you’re a woman, this is a travesty.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
by Mike Fagan on Apr 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Admittedly, the wedding was awesome – I’m in southern LA, so it was at a camp (basically a large shack) on the bayou with torches, a keg of Abita beer, and weed, in a thunderstorm, and I was the Reverend.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 18, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG! He just gave a shout out to me!
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiman is reminding me of a Punch Out!! character flitting his hair like that...
Don ‘Flamenco’ Wiman
my stream died
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Story of the night
Seems the streams, both legit and otherwise, are having a very tough time tonight.
Just as you said that, it cut out for me.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 18, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Goldie's commentary is on a meteoric rise...to precision?
Goldie’s commentary is on a meteoric rise…to precision?
This is some world class snark going on here.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Wiman needed Chuck in his corner
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
I'm pretty sure
he did just A-ok.
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He had his back
with a body triangle though. That’s more then just playing in guard.
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Nice Comeback by Wiman.
Close fight. Can’t really score it though since I missed the first minute and a half of round three.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 18, 2009 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
Looked like Wiman took rounds 1 & 3.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Way to gut it out Wiman...
he was tired but didn’t stop coming forward. Good on him.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Sounds right to me.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, 29-28 sounds right to me.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Bullshit.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
My stream is fubar – I should have just headed for the bar even though I’m a wreck.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
Hometown decision...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions
^this
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 19, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
8-4 on the night, I believe.
Movin’ on up!
by Chris Nelson on Apr 19, 2009 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I picked Wiman, but it was pretty close.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 19, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
Goldberg and Rogan have always spoken highly of Cung.
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Cung Le?
Why is the UFC acknowledging someone not in their org?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
UFC not worried about Cung Le the fighter.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Cung...Le?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
ha
Cung Le, Actor.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Did Zuffa not see the Strikeforce card? You have to keep Cung Le off the mic.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
Thi is weird
They counter program Strikeforce, but then one of Strikeforces biggest names on their PPV
See...
he works out in the street and subway…that’s how you can tell he isn’t a professional fighter.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
The UFC is realy cracking down on free streams
I had one that never failed me before tonight
LT Fan 4 Life
Indeed
Did you know that 7.1% of Cheick Kongo’s win have come via heel hook? ;)
by Scott Haber on Apr 19, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yet another example of someone getting "Mapled"
Is anyone else absolutely boggled that they gave the first round to Stout?
What is this? The Olympics? Did Stout get a 10 from the Canadian Judge too?
Hasn’t Anderson fought below 170 in the past?
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 19, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you naturally put on weight as you get older. I really don’t think he could get down again. Or at least lose a lot of effectiveness in the process.
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I wouldn’t expect them to fight at 170, either.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too...
um…this sucks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Same.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 19, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I tried to refresh mine and all hell broke loose with IE.
by Cannon Jacques on Apr 19, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Why’s that? You like Leities or dislike Silva?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously...
I’ve never had problems with the Yahoo! stream…cutting out in the main event? really?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions
It's Dark And Hell Is Hot
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
ok
but confidence isnt the same as arrogance. BTW I don’t think he’s arrogant, I just found your reply odd :)
You paid for it, so find alternate streams asap.
C I L L whitey! I mean your landlord!
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Want to join me in an angry email fest?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Seconded
Fuck you Buffer.
Probably says Det-oyt as well.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
What’s Ben-oyt supposed to be?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
For people like me with yahoo streams going down http://teampilipinas.info/2009/04/watch-ufc97-live-stream.html just so you can watch the end.
Alright community...
it’s up to you to liveblog while I wait for yahoo.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
Stream back!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
CAN SOMEONE
Link me to Yahoo Stream!?
by I Can't Feel My Face on Apr 19, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
You have to pay cash money in digital form.
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s the stalk meme that’s springing up?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't do 10-10 rounds...
So I guess 10-9 Silva for landing the only meaningful punch.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
We all lost that round.
No winners.
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Just saw a .gif of Shogun/Chuck - fuck yes!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions
/self-facepalm
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Your da bomb!!!
Wow, the gif speed might be throwing things off,
but the defense by Chuck didn’t look professional. I could have fallen on my ass just like that.
I just found it on sherdog forums – I go there for pics & gifs. I also wonder if he was bad the whole fight, or just in the gif?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
This fight has been AWFUL when they're standing.
Anderson is killing his marketability…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He was supposedly pissed after people didn’t like the Cote fight – so why is he doing it again?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Anderson wants for his opponents to engage...
Leben, Franklin, Hendo, and Irvin all did.
Leites and Cote haven’t really.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 19, 2009 12:35 AM EDT reply actions
Whats up fellas,
just joined, man a lot of action on this site. Seen that Chuck got jacked up, is Sylva going to kick it in gear or what?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
I think we all want this fight to be over soon…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
PAGE YOUR INNER CHONAN LEITES
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I really like it.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
This fight sucks...
Anderson refusing to engage was weak early. Now that he is engaging Leites is folding like a cheap suit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
This is like the last Sonnen title fight in the WEC except they both are lazy and fat.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Almost looks like he’s trying to blow out his knee
by Mocha Shaka Khan on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s badass. It reminds of one that Vera threw on Jardine, but Vera threw it with his back leg.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Anderson turning
into Tim Sylvia, just trying to make it to the bell without taking punishment?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Is their any doubt MW is the weakest division in MMA? Even weaker than HW...
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I disagree
UFC has been shielding some fights from Silva in order to build things up. Also, there are some good notable MW outside UFC.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yahoo’s trying to tell me to stop watching this fight. I will endure.
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Anderson keeps leaning forward with his hands down...
Knock him the fuck out Thales and end this thing.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 19, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
Is he really trying to punch him in the foot?
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 19, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
is AS trying to turn himself into one of the biggest disappointments in MMA? just for sheer lack of commitment. is he trying to get the fans to beg for him to retire?!
Is Leites
the last one Tito fought?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
This is stupid...
All the clowning by Anderson and the not engaging by Leites. I hate this fight
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
No because machida at least jabs.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Silva officially behind Fedor and GSP on my personal P4P list
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
GSP has been at the top of mine since the Penn fight.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What fights were you watching? There’s no argument you can make that Leites or Cote won (or were winning) their fights.
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Two heartless showings in a row...
clowning around against guys he should be blowing out…I had it Fedor/Silva/GSP…but I can’t justify Silva aat #2 anymore. He needs to blow guys like this out for the sake of the P4P discussion.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
So blowing out Franklin twice, Henderson, and Marquardt just gets thrown in the dustbin now?
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Well, I could make the same point with BJ Penn.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
"Well, if you don't count the fights he was fighting out of division..."
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah...to a degree...
P4P rankings (in my eyes) are fluid. If you’re not blowing out guys that aren’t legit top 10 and you’re wasting time clowning and shit…you don’t just hang out at your spot forever.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor hasn’t been below #1 on mine for several years now. GSP is about as close to a 1b as you can get, though.
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
A. Silva is fighting like all the machida haters THINK machida fights.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Fedor and Couture?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Dead stream
Weird coincidence — two MLS live streams went out tonight. Wonder if there’s some infrastructure issue tonight.
92-0
Silva & Leites def. viewers via Unanimous Decision
by Chris Nelson on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
It sounds like GSP won from the crowd’s perspective.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
“Well now they’re cheering ‘bullshit.’” -Joe Rogan
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions
So glad I didn't rush to the bar to see this...
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions
Painkiller addiction?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Angry Canadiens fans! Ahhhhhahahahahahaha! The Scabs are going down!
Big Bad Bruins are back!
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm never paying for a A.Silva PPV again
Unless it’s against GSP or Fedor.
by spectaa on Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't be awesome if Leites just threw up an omaplata right now.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
The overreaction by people with Anderson’s last two fights is ridiculous.
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by Mike Fagan on Apr 19, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand that people are upset/disappointed, but in his last two fights the UFC has thrown two completely undeserving challengers who went in and more or less refused to engage. You can’t really blame Silva for that.
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by Mike Fagan on Apr 19, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why not?
He’s supposed to beat these guys in a minute and he’s not.
Everyone says that you should take every fight seriously. So Anderson is better then that statement?
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What a dick...
Jumping on the cage like he accomplished something in that fight.
by michaelgaryscott on Apr 19, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions
Interesting that Silva was so happy after that fight
Especially after he took the post-Cote criticism so personally.
They're booing because Silva dicked around for 25 minutes! Get it through your head Rogan, don't defend coasting to a W!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions
The UFC is at fault.
Thales doesn’t want to stand with Silva.
Silva doesn’t want to grapple with Thales.
Stalemate.
From the sounds of
things I am glad I did not get that ppv.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Unless anything on the prelim card was spectacular
Wiman-Stout was my Fight of the Night from the main card
the other wanted to butt scoot everytime silva tries to move forward.. fucking bullshit..
now people are gonna give silva more shit..
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 19, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s even harder when you have zero persons wanting to fight
by George Lucas on Apr 19, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
She is bad at her job
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was boring.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
What Leites did is the same thing Paul Harris did to Hendo
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Hmm
I didn’t see Silva nearly tapping to a kneebar and a heel hook ;)
by Scott Haber on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Butt-scoot-gate?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
ummmmmmm you didnt rec shit. sorry if im lashing out im just pissed i paid for this POS and brought alot of my friends over to “get them into” ufc and this is what i get to show them. i look like a douche now.
I’d actually prefer to forget this fight.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
bleh
horrible night. Some good fights, but otherwise shitty trying to watch them. And my popcorn isn’t sitting right :P
A.Silva can’t fight if he isn’t challenged, that’s annoying for the UFC and for us when the UFC doesn’t handle him properly.
yeah, give him wanderlei.. at least we will surely see two people fight..
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 19, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Geez not paying for that
Wanderlei’s 45lb head charging A. Silva fists . . . I’ll mortgage everything on Silva in that fight.
yea, but at least it'd be a fight..
they want to set up maia vs silva, but it might look exactly like this.. only with worse standup..
by Anton Tabuena on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree (bwahaha)!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
My personal fight of the night?
I’d go with Cantwell/Cane. Really good technical striking fight. Stout/Wiman was a close second.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions
I’m so happy about that.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Alright ya'll...I'm going home to play more UFC Undisputed!
Goodnight…thanks for hanging out!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions
It is terrible
that they boo a man who has 9 consecutive wins in the octagon with 1 by decision. Thales came into that fight with one intention and that was not to get knocked out.
Great fighters use their advantage to win the fight. Not win because the judges have to award someone the round when nothing happened.
Leites didnt want to get KO’d, Silva didn’t want to get submitted. Should they have both just played into each others styles?
this fight justifies yellow cards
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Well, Japan takes humiliation seriously
I don’t know how that would work in US culture. I guy who could use that to his advantage would be revered in our culture.
I believe in DREAM it’s 10% purse deduction.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 19, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Also in PRIDE – I remember that from Wandy/Rampage II. And 2 (3?) Yellow = 1 Red = DQ.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Pride didn’t have points.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
As much as...
ANderson prob shouldve been more aggresive Thales wasnt engaging at all and was trying to pull guard the entire fight. Jeez, Thales mustve been hanging out w/ Tito’s baby’s mama for the amoun of time he spent on his back
Where’s all those people who picked Liddell to walk over Shogun? I’d have loved to see the looks on their faces when he got smashed.
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by FlyByKnight on Apr 19, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to be nice to Chuck fans
I’ve been calling Chuck a duck for 18 months now. However, it’s tough losing your favorite fighter . . . give them some room.
by bignerd on Apr 19, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I may have picked Chuck, but I was grinning to see Shogun win.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Thales booted out...
It was awful, I’m not going to fault Silva for the first round or two. I mean, he feels out the other guy. That’s fine. However, in the later rounds when no matter what happened when Silva came in Thales literally just dropped to his ass and acted like he was getting ready to do a crunch.
You’ve got to be kidding me. I’m highly annoyed that I burnt money on the PPV, and if it wasn’t for how much I enjoyed the Wiman/Stout fight even if the decision was dead wrong, I’d feel flat out cheated. However, I really can’t lay much of the blame on him for that fight. What was he supposed to do? Just throw flying knees over and over, because after one closing move the guy was on his ass?
I saw better attempts to pull guard watching that freakshow on Showtime with Cyborg.
Awful.
I was thinking that Anderson wanted to make the fight more exciting – that is why he was not playing the guard game with Thales
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Thales is apparently a very skilled BJJ practioner.
So really the only shot he had was some sort of submission, since he didn’t appear to be striking for anything either.
I don’t mind him trying to go for takedowns, and trying to pull guard.
I mind him blatently just falling on his ass any time Silva got close, and when Silva finally went down with him to punch him in the face he didn’t even go for anything.
Absolutely horrible.
just say NO to one dimensional fighters!
The sport is “mixed martial arts” and the event is a “fight”. This is not a “competition of skills”, it’s a freakin’ fight!! If you want to showcase your BJJ then go to the BJJ worlds or Abu Dhabi or whatever. Win your medals, gain the respect of your peers, open a school, etc etc – in BJJ. Same goes for wrestlers who want to make a few bucks wrestling. I mean, do we really have to watch Jake O’ Brien again?? I have all the respect for fighters that can make their opponent fight their own fight but when it doesn’t work out that way, some of them (Leites, O’Brien, Lutter to name a few) become exposed as one-dimensional bore-fests; (I almost used the word “fraud” but will restrain myself from hyperbole..). Please UFC, please give fights to fighters – guys that will fight any fight and not just their own.
by Fooshnickens on Apr 19, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The UFC should have a neutral translator
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
so is Chuck gonna say he got caught? that may be the main reason he has not been able to bounce back – he is not dealing with the reality of his fights or that he needs to stop drinking
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Man I thought he said his whole game was gonna be different only thing that changed was instead of being dropped with a right it was a left
he did get a takedown – that was refreshing and hopeful for a moment – I liked both fighters so either way I was going to be happy but I didn’t want to see Chuck go down like that, again
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
*drinking alcohol*
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Maybe fighters should start training “catching” techniques. Seems to be an effective way to beat your opponent.
by a tommy point on Apr 19, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you know I hate to go back to Pride (not really) but if knees to a downed opponent were allowed – the fight may have been finished
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
if anderson would have attacked his guard he could have finished that fight that’s why I like Miguel Torres so much he just wants to hurt people
There were plenty of legal opportunities for Anderson to finish the fight standing.
by George Lucas on Apr 19, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If Silva really was hesitant to engage Leites’s BJJ, imagine how boring he would have been against Maia?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions
good point
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
i think you people are crazy
i understand that it wasnt an exciting fight…but to say that silva is no longer P4P or he cant beat gsp/fedor because of the fight then you are crazy. i saw a fighter that a) picked his opponent apart b) never got hit or in trouble c) has some awesome/hilarious kicks and punches.
i think you guys need to chill on the anti-silva…..still my p4p!
yes he was worried about the gaurd. yes he didnt do any damage……..but tell me 1 thing just 1 that he did wrong in the fight?
Every fighter has different goals in a fight. Anderson’s goal was apparently to taint his legacy with a shameful performance.
by George Lucas on Apr 19, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
“No one reads my blog because I have terrible opinions.”
Yes, I agree.
by George Lucas on Apr 19, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
That card was hard to watch. It may go down as one of the worst ever with “stacked” and 69. Give me my money back or I’ll slap you
on the face?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Danas not happy
Dana looked PISSED after Andersons dance off. When he was putting the belt on him he just looked angry, as he should be after that steaming turd of a performance by Anderson.
Anderson deserves every bit of criticism that gets heaped on him tonight. He completely broke down Leites’ range, rhythm, cardio and confidence no later than the third round and decided to spend the next two rounds throwing nifty leg kicks and doing silly dances.
He had Thales perfectly cut off, against the cage, with a pathetically bad boxing guard and no room to shoot and instead of opening up Anderson decides to play patty cake.
The best pound for pound fighter in the world should know better.
I'm with you here...
There were plenty of times where Silva could have ended the fight if he’d just engage. I get that he was playing it safe…but I expect a bit more than a safe decision from the supposed #1 guy in the world against a guy who got beat up by Kampmann and Marquardt. I’m not expecting Silva to completely abandon his game and play into Leites’ strategy. But he had him pinned a few times and rather than try to let his hands go and end it he either leg kicked and circled away or just kind of pawed at him.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 19, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
i love dana but now he just looks like a tool for slandering fedor alll month long and hyping up anderson silva. Fedor brings it against everyone. He took cro cops head kicks and won, went to the ground with nog and won.
anderson danced with laites and …………..won……………i think.
Just wanna make a showing and let ufc4 and subo know what is up.
The odds makers really fooled people into thinking Liddell had a shot tonight, and they made a killing off of it.
out of curiousity, how much did the line move?
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by monkeyfightclub! on Apr 19, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Liddell had a great shot – Shogun looked like shit against Coleman, and had he gassed early again, Chuck would have put him out. I’m gleefully surprised at the outcome of that fight, though. I can’t say Shogun is “back”, but he looked damn good.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Chuck Liddell had no shot. His best shot was a Hail Hary, which he threw multiple times to no avail.
Wrong
Chuck knew he needed a win, and a motivated Chuck is dangerous (e.g. vs Wandy). Shogun has looked mediocre against Forrest and awful against Coleman. If that same hollow Shogun fought tonight’s Chuck, who would have won? Shogun wouldn’t’ve had any defense because he wouldn’t have been able to keep his arms up, and the Hail Mary overhand rights would have TKO’d him. Instead, Shogun trained well, avoided getting tagged, and smashed Chuck’s jaw. Woot!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
That doesnt fit with AnonymousA’s agenda though. Chuck is dirt and Shogun is our lord and savior.
Hopefully Shogun has got the cobwebs out of his system now, he looked the goods tonight.
I don’t have an agenda. But, I guess in this case, if I did have an agenda, it would involve being correct and everyone else being wrong.
You need to stop posting like a 14 year old kid.
And I was rooting for Shogun in this fight too.
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by Mike Fagan on Apr 19, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So…instead of the fight that did happen, did happen, and Chuck trained for the fight that didn’t happen, and ended up losing the fight that did happen…
Sounds like a pretty reasonable strategy.
When predicting a fight’s outcome, the fight obviously hasn’t happened yet, so the predictors can only rely on past data to inductively determine who the likeliest victor is. This process is not 100% accurate, but it is the only methodology of predicting the fight, and any future event, really (cf An Enquiry concerning Human Understanding). Based on past data, the most reasonable outcome was Liddell by late TKO/Dec. It is no different than predicting Jardine would have beaten Houston Alexander based on the available information, despite that prediction being ultimately wrong.
What infallible crystal ball did you appear to use that “involved being correct and everyone else being wrong”?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Basic understanding of chaos theory helped. Then through simple simulations I set up I was able to input different variables that I thought could come into play. It was pretty mundane, actually.
The prism with which people looked through this fight with was very biased in one way of thinking, and to me that tainted many peoples thought processes.
If they only wanted to see an out of shape Shogun, that’s all they saw. They were forgiving Chuck his years of neglecting his body (though his potbelly has receded some recently) and his opponents recently figuring out his style, and knowing how to counter it. Chuck’s only win the past few years came from Silva, who was more than happy to ignore all of the things that people had learned about Chuck, and go out to fight an exciting fight.
It seemed like Liddell/Rua should’ve been a lot easier to see, but the rampant pro-Liddell leanings confused me greatly. That’s why I so harshly had to represent the opposing point of view. It was an attempt to bring balance to the misunderstandings of mixed martial arts, and how our own biases can taint analysis.
Gotcha – agreed that Chuck’s been figured out, I just didn’t think Rua would have improved so dramatically in three months. Even if Chuck is not the fighter of yore, a few of his overhand rights to an unprotected head would have ended it. Instead, Shogun got smart, boxed a bit, and won $70K!
UFC 97 Fight of the Night:
-Sam Stout and Matt Wiman
UFC 97 Knockout of the Night:
-Mauricio “Shogun” Rua
UFC 97 Submission of the Night:
-Krzysztof Soszynski
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by Scott C. Broussard on Apr 19, 2009 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny story...
I went to a party tonight (and missed the fights live) but got updates throughout the night. Two friends were there who have always been huge into MMA, but over the last few months have been M.I.A. when it comes to following the sport.
I asked them who they thought won the fight (after I got the results)…they both said, without hesitating “Oh, I bet Shogun killed him.” I was liked “Uhhh, yeah, actually. Wouldn’t you assume Chuck won? He was a favorite.” They both agreed that Chuck is old and slow, while Shogun is young and can easily improve even though he looked terrible against Coleman.
I have no idea what that means, but maybe it shows that unbiased people who are out of the loop saw this fight for what it was: old over the hill guy vs. young guy.
Just speaking personally, I can’t really remember Shogun showing much knockout/knockdown power standing up. So for him, in my mind, having to have a gameplan of takedown/ground ‘n’ pound against a guy who is legendary for staying on his feet was a huge deal in my analysis.
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Sad to say, but while this probably wasn’t the last time Chuck Liddell fought, he ceased to be relevant the moment Shogun dropped him. He’s 1-4 since Jan 1st 2007, his last KO is from Dec 2006… While UFC will probably still try to push him as what he was in 2003-2006, the days of the knockout artist Iceman have passed. Probably for good.
I hope he calls it a day before falling to the undercard. It would be a sorry thing indeed to see Chuck become what Mark Coleman has become – a former UFC champ getting licensed for one fight only and having that happen in the undercard…
The first rockstar-popular UFC fighter is done. Chuck will one day get into the UFC HOF for all that he has done, but he really needs to hang up the gloves before becoming a shell of his former self.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Apr 19, 2009 7:29 AM EDT reply actions
I think the UFC picks opponents for Anderson Silva by drawing names out of a hat. That snooze-fest was rediculous. Half the bar had gone home before the fight was even over.
by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 19, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
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