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Demian Maia: Evolving jiu-jitsu into MMA

Demian_maia_mediumIn one of the most recent quotes from UFC veteran Frank Mir, he talked about having a jiu-jitsu coach in Demian Maia and how his game has gone "drastically to different levels":

I’m going to soon be the the destroyer of Brock Lesnar’s legacy and career…. Obviously, I’m slightly scared — just look at Brock … he is a scary guy. When he was beating me down I went to tap. Oh, well, that’s right. Brock asked the referee to come over and save him! At [UFC 81] I wasn’t really working with a jiu-jitsu coach. I was my own coach. I now have Demian Maia who is my head jiu-jitsu coach. My game has gone drastically to different levels. I thought I was actually good at it until I started rolling with him

This has been somewhat of a continuing trend with Demian Maia. More recently, a lot of fighters have been touting his jiu-jitsu in the cage including the opponents he's defeated. The question remains as to why Maia's jiu-jitsu game is becoming one of the most desired attributes in a fighter, and why hasn't the style been so easily replicated?

Maia seems to have figured out one of the true ways to be a jiu-jitsu practicioner, yet very dangerous to nearly any opponent. In the past, many fighters have acknowledged that while jiu-jitsu can be dominating on the floor, those fighters have to get the fight to the floor. What happens when your opponent literally drags you to the floor, puts himself in what seems to be a bad position, but puts you into his world? Bad things in this case.

While Maia is still susceptible to the striking game, his overall jiu-jitsu game is vastly more dynamic than almost anybody in the UFC right now. He works aggressively for the clinch and takedown, drags guys into his guard, and works his offensive jiu-jitsu to cause opponents to go on the defense even when those opponents are in the dominant position. This is where Maia seperates from the rest of the crowd.

One of the more prominent differences in Maia's jiu-jitsu versus other fighters is his knowledge and transitioning ability. He easily moves from submission to submission as if he's working his way down an internal flowchart. If armbar is there, do this, but if not, do that. His additional speed to the transition game only makes it much more formidable, and the knowledge that the opponent has must be vast in order to defend. There in lies the big problem for Maia's opponents. If they have the knowledge, can they contend with the speed? If they have the speed, can they keep up with his mind?

So, why have guys like Frank Mir decided to seek out Demian Maia? The combination of speed, transition training, knowledge, and his dynamic abilities aren't exactly a new concept, but the way in which he implements those concepts in the Octagon are very new. Most jiu-jitsu fighters in the game today either use a methodical way of working an opponent, or must rely on gaining wrist control, some sort of control to try to pull off submissions. Maia doesn't wait. He actively hunts for that type of control.

Maia is evolving the way jiu-jitsu is being used within the sport of MMA. He's one of the leading examples as to how jiu-jitsu can be a highly offensive weapon in the cage. I'm hoping that Mir's transitions and knowledge increase with the partnership.

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he's really good and i really love his style, (and mclovin's too)

but i have the feeling that palahares would give him lotsssss of trouble..

by Anton Tabuena on Apr 17, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Palhares is another guy who has excellent transitions, but his takedown work isn’t on Maia’s level, I don’t think. Maia almost seems deceptively strong. Overpowering some people with the clinch, it surprises me a bit.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just think that when you have 2 guys with almost similar strengths,

their other skills (striking) decides the winner, but since i think both are question marks there, i wouldnt know who’d win there..

although at the ground, since both are at the same range (maia’s a bit higher imo), i have the feeling, the stronger guy, physically, wins it.. and i think palahares could be the stronger of the two..

by Anton Tabuena on Apr 17, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is where Galvao has a distinct advantage. Galvao’s standup is actually pretty good for a high level grappler. He might have the tools to become a dominating force.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you might be underestimating Toquinho’s takedowns a bit. He uses more of a wrestling style, as opposed to the tricky, unique stuff that Maia does, but his TD’s are top-level at 185.

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by Beer Monster on Apr 17, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Toquinho

actually has a better takedown game based on wrestling as opposed to guard drags and trips, but Maia excels and staying close and keeping control once on the ground. Palhares will go for leg locks that cost him position or just try to ground and pound, sometimes not even passing guard.
Maia on the other hand is always working for that finish.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 17, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not underestimating Palhares at all. I’ve been a huge proponent of Toquinho for quite some time, and I’ve watched him in a number of fights in his earlier days. He’s explosive in a wrestling aspect of the takedown, and while his transitions are quick and dangerous, his takedown attempts are more of a shoot rather than Maia’s trickier ways of getting opponents to the ground.

Opponents expect Palhares’ way of taking you down. With Maia, it’s hard to know how he will get you to the ground.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

On both counts (Nate’s and Leland’s).

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by Beer Monster on Apr 17, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Palahares would give anyone lots of trouble.

Damn, 185 has some great BJJ players, Nate, Palahares, Almeida, Maia, on and on. Silva, Gouviea are black belts as well. I can only hope we get to see more fights like Maia/Mcdonald…absolutely amazing.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Apr 17, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but that’s where we begin to seperate Maia. I don’t consider Nate, Almeida, or even Gouveia on the same level in terms of transition speed, knowledge, or a combination of both. I think Maia trains much differently. I’ve seen some tape, and it looks as if he constantly works training regiments that work from submission to submission, transition to transition. That’s a valuable way to do things because a lot of other fighters may do this in practice, but it seems like Maia picks it up and remembers.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he definitely is a different animal. Just the possibilities are so good, I hope some come to fruition.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Apr 17, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m still a bit excited to hear Galvao is going to fight in Strikeforce. That should be awesome.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Hell yeah! That is going to be great.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Apr 17, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paul Harris couldn’t submit Horn despite several dominant positions and 15 minutes of effort, I think Maia would do just fine..

by Storeo on Apr 17, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He broke his hand halfway through the first round, that’s why.

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by Beer Monster on Apr 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More of a question than a comment...

Has Maia’s chin ever really been tested? I’ve seen him woop a ton of ass but he hasn’t really taken many big shots in my opinion. what would be really terrifying is if the man can withstand a barrage, and still work his magic.

i might be wrong i just don’t really remember any fight where he looked like he was taking heavy shots.

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by rockied on Apr 17, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He really hasn’t. That’s the one thing that remains to be seen. It’s very tough to strike with him. He’ll grab you, and drag you down.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still say he’s Royce version dos.

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by FlyByKnight on Apr 17, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love palhares but i disagree with the idea that his skillset is similar to maia’s. He is obviously stronger but Maia’s jiu-jitsu game is on a much higher level. Much much much.

by Jahmelianenko on Apr 17, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the interesting thing about Maia's jiu jitsu to me

is that conceptually it is very old school. He’s not messing around with the X-guard (Marcelo Garcia) or the Twister/Rubber Guard (Eddie Bravo). He’s not using bodylocks or submission attempts to set up positional advances (Robert Drysdale). He’s not even doing much shrimping with his hips to get sweeps from guard (Big Nog). He’s not using flying attacks (Dave Camarillo) its all meat and potatoes JJ, just executed with amazing precision, aggression and finesse.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 17, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think one of the things that makes this style so good even in the old school mold is that he works from transition to transition to submission to submission and keeps moving forward. It’s like he always has an answer for whatever you counter with, and he’s always right on top of moving to that.

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by Leland Roling on Apr 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definitely

its a very aggressive tactical approach but sticks to the essentials.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a stripped down approch to BJJ is what you are saying? often seen in wrestling when a guy won’t learn all sorts of move, but rather focus on pulling the moves he is good at on anyone. The focus is being so precise and good at, lets say for example, a double that you don’t do anything but a double and people know its coming, but they can’t stop it.

by szucconi on Apr 17, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 17, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a whole lot of half guard in old school bjj, I don’t think.

by Simco on Apr 17, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a good point

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 17, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mir likely has access to Maia due to his relationship with Drysdale. Drysdale and Maia were both Brasa before the split and according to Drysdale he still considers old Brasa his teammates despite being officially independent.
I would be very interested to see who else has gone or starts going to Maia for bjj work that doesn’t have such an open avenue of a relationship. If Mir can sub Brock again I imagine Maia will have his hands full of pupils from various weight classes.

by Simco on Apr 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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