UFC 97 Betting Trends

by id1 on Apr 16, 2009 4:21 PM EDT Comment 34 comments

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Anderson Silva (23-4) vs. Thales Leites(14-1)

Opening Line: Anderson Silva -300 vs. Thales Leites +240
Current Line: Anderson Silva -500 (Bodog) vs. Thales Leites +500 (Sportsbook)
Trend: Silva

Betting History
Anderson Silva -500 vs. Patrick Cote +525 - W - TKO - R.3
Anderson Silva -450 vs. James Irvin +475 - W - KO - R.1
Anderson Silva -135 vs. Dan Henderson +140 - W - SUB - R.2
Anderson Silva -200 vs Rich Franklin +190 - W - TKO - R.2
Anderson Silva -145 vs. Nate Marquardt +140 - W - TKO - R.1

Betting History
Thales Leites -400 vs. Drew Mcfedries +300 - W - SUB - 1:18 R.1
Thales Leites +200 vs. Nate Marquardt -206 - W - DEC - 5:00 R.3
Thales Leites -280 vs. Ryan Jensen +250 - W - SUB - 3:47 R.1
Thales Leites -280 vs. Floyd Sword +400 - W - SUB - 3:50 R.1
Thales Leites -280 vs. Pete Sell* +220 - W - DEC - 5:00 R.3

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Chuck Liddell (21-6) vs. Mauricio Rua (17-3)

Opening Line: Chuck Liddell -240 vs. Mauricio Rua +150
Current Line: Chuck Liddell -175 (5Dimes) vs. Mauricio Rua +170* (Sportsbook)
Trend: Shogun

*Update: Shogun Rua line has come in significantly over the past 24 hours. His current line at Sportsbook now stands at +130.

Betting History
Chuck Liddell-220 vs. Rashad Evans+180 - L - KO - R.2
Chuck Liddell +135 vs. Wanderlei Silva-130 - W - DEC - R.3
Chuck Liddell -340 vs.Keith Jardine +300 - L - DEC - R.3
Chuck Liddell -260 vs. Quinton Jackson +200 - L - KO - R.1
Chuck Liddell -230 vs. Tito Ortiz +160 - W - TKO - R.3

Betting History
Mauricio Rua -365 vs. Mark Coleman +366 - W - DEC - R3
Mauricio Rua -300 vs Forrest Griffin +230 - L - SUB - R3
Mauricio Rua -445 vs. Alistair Overeem +365 -W - K0 - R1
Mauricio Rua -525 vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura +425 - W - DEC - R3
Mauricio Rua -300 vs. Kevin Randleman +200 - W - SUB - R1
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Cheick Kongo (18-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)

Opening Line: Cheick Kongo -293 vs. Antoni Hardonk +325
Current Line: Cheick Kongo-267 (Sportsbet) vs. Antoni Hardonk +275 (Betcris/Bookmaker)
Trend: Hardonk

Betting History
Cheick Kongo -295 vs. Mustapha Al-Turk +285 - W - KO - R1
Cheick Kongo -450 vs. Dan Evensen +425 - W - KO - R1
Cheick Kongo -160 vs. Heath Herring +180 - L - DEC - R3
Cheick Kongo +315 vs. Mirko Filipovic - W - DEC - R3
Cheick Kongo -240 vs. Assuerio Silva +190 - W DEC - R3

Betting History
Antoni Hardonk -301 vs. Mike Wessel +251 - W - TKO - R2
Antoni Hardonk -205 vs. Eddie Sanchez +165 W - KO - R2
Antoni Hardonk -333 vs. Colin Robinson +303 W - TKO - R1
Antoni Hardonk +155 vs. Frank Mir -155 L SUB - R2 - SUB -R1
Antoni Hardonk -206 vs. Justin McCully +166 - DEC - R3
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Krzysztof Soszynski (8-1) vs. Brian Stann (6-1)

Opening Line: Krzysztof Soszynski -200 vs. Brian Stann +160
Current Line: Krzysztof Soszynski -150 (Sportsbook) vs. Brian Stann +143 (Pinnacle)
Trend: Stann

Betting History
Krzysztof Soszynski -390 vs. Shane Primm +400 W - SUB - R.2
Krzysztof Soszynski N/A vs. Marcus Hicks N/A W - SUB - R.1
Krzysztof Soszynski +110 vs. Robert Villegas -120 - W - DQ - R.2
Krzysztof Soszynsk N/Ai vs. Alex Andrade N/A W - DQ - R.2
Krzysztof Soszynski N/A vs. Ben Rothwell N/A L - TKO - R.1

Betting History
Brian Stann -341 vs. Steve Cantwell +311 - L - TKO - R2
Brian Stann -166 vs. Doug Marshall +156 - W -KO - R1
Brian Stan -250 vs. Jeremiah Billington +210 - W - TKO - R1
Brian Stann -210 vs. Craig Zellner +165 - W - TKO - R1
Brian Stann N/A vs. Steve Cantwell N/A - W - KO -R1

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All UFC 97 betting odds and stats courtesy of Robert K.

UFC 97 Preliminary Card Odds (April 17)

David Loiseau -125 (PinnacleSports*) vs. Ed Herman +110 (Sportsbook)

David Bielkheden +240 (BetCris/Bookmaker) vs. Mark Bocek -260 (Sportsbook)

Ryo Chonan -188 (Pinnacle Sports - Non US Sportsbook) vs. T.J. Grant +170 (PinnacleSports*)

Jason Macdonald -110 (Bodog) vs. Nate Quarry -115 (Sportsbook)

Denis Kang -324 (Bodog + Sportsbet) vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam +310 (BetCris/Bookmaker)

Matt Wiman +120 (Sportsbook) vs. Sam Stout -125 (BetCris/Bookmaker)

All lines correct at the time of publishing.

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Very cool. Thanks and rec’d.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 16, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Opening Line: Anderson Silva -300 vs. Thales Leites +240

That was “bet your house on Silva time”..

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Apr 16, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think I remember it opening at -275 and I made a comment on here that those odds had to be a mistake.

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Apr 16, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

I said the same thing to one of my buddies

by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 16, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stann Lost to Cantwell in the rematch

Bring Back BA

by marco054 on Apr 16, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

fixed

by id1 on Apr 16, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thales Leites +200 vs. Nate Marquardt -206 - W - DEC - 5:00 R.3

I know this is off of the topic of this post but is there anyone who believes that Leites won this fight?

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Apr 16, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Technically speaking, there is no doubt that Leites won the fight, but there is also no doubt that he won it solely due to the point deductions given to Marquardt. Given that, the judges did make the correct decision in awarding Thales the fight (as long as you give him the first round, which I know I did). Even subtracting the third round point deduction (which was completely bunk), the fight would have probably just been ruled a split draw (28-28, 28-28, and 29-27 Marquardt I believe it would have been).

Marquardt did basically kick Thales’ ass though, that much is clear. Everyone knows that. I don’t think anyone is picking Thales in a rematch. It was a pretty hollow victory but you have to give Leites some semblance of respect for gutting it out after getting absolutely crushed by that illegal knee in the second round (I thought he was out for a moment). Not many fighters would have chosen to continue after that.

by ilostmydog on Apr 16, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Much like the Cerrone knee against Varner the Marquardt knee was a split second difference between illegal and legal. The difference is that the Marquardt knee landed flush and Leites continued but the Cerrone knee was a glancing blow and Varner punked out knowing he was in trouble IMO.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Apr 16, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kudos, I didn’t predict you would turn that around into a baseless insult towards Jamie Varner. I’ll completely flesh out the differences and mention that Leites had fought for ~ 6 or so minutes when the foul occurred (not 23), he did not have a broken hand, he did not have a broken foot, and he did not sustain any eye injury due to the knee.

by ilostmydog on Apr 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trust me. I amaze myself sometimes. The eye injury is questionable to say the least. I guess I still hold some venom toward Varner for the way that fight ended.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Apr 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ATTN Everyone:

Please continue betting on Shogun.

-Thanks

Keep firing Assholes!

by Ubernoober on Apr 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am at three different sportsbooks infact.

by id1 on Apr 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what are the chances Shogun shows up in shape?

by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or lets see how many fighters we can list more deserving of a middleweight title shot than Leites, i’ll go first Dan Henderson..

by id1 on Apr 16, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nate Marquart

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Apr 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yushin Okami

"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn

by Day Man on Apr 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Demian Maia.

http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com

by Beer Monster on Apr 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aaaaand i should try reading a little further down before I post.

http://www.fourouncestofreedom.com

by Beer Monster on Apr 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh, didn't Hendo get his?

Tapout to RNC by Anderson in the 2nd? Why should he get another chance now?

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Apr 16, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

because, as id1 said in his post, he is “more deserving” than Leites…point (i think) being Leites is very much in over his head. On a personal level, I would rather see Hendo-Silva 2 than Silva-Leites. Actually, I would rather see Silva-anyone_mentioned_in_the_above_responses than Silva-Leites.

by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 16, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry, have to disagree

He got his shot. He lost. Badly. Since then, he’s had two decision victories (and is now on the TUF path to a Bisbing fight)—nothing that would suggest the results of a rematch would be different, or that he has significantly improved his game. Same goes for Marquardt.. Now Maia or Okami, I think both those guys should have been in front of Leites.

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Apr 16, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you on Hendo

His last two fights have been pretty weak. Regardless, I still think he has a better chance of testing Silva than Leites. Silva beat him convincingly last time, but Henderson is a seasoned fighter and while he might get dominated, there is a better chance he will make it a good fight than Leites, who is going to get murdered.

by P4P is a stupid concept on Apr 17, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Leites will get murdered

But it’s a better test because we’ll get to see how he reacts to a strong jiu-jitsu player. We already know how he reacts to a great wrestler with boulders for fists (he RNC’s him in the 2nd and the wrestler goes gurgle gurgle gurgle).

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Apr 17, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs